Everyone talking about the power consumption difference, as if it's a big deal. Right now, Ireland has some of the highest electricity costs in the world at around $0.45 USD per kWh (using USD for reference). That comes out to $10.53 extra per month to use a 7900 XT over a 4070 Ti Super... $10.53 extra... That's 9.75€ or £8.12 per month... unless you are living paycheck to paycheck (which, if you are, how are you affording a 4070 Ti Super, OR a 7900 XT), then you are 100% splitting hairs to justify spending a ton of extra money on an NVIDIA GPU.
@chasavoichirik2183 and? Again, that's only $10 per month, less than $0.50 per day. By contrast, if you chose say a 4070 Ti Super over a 7900 XT, you would pay around $200 more, if you upgrade every other cycle you would have paid $50 more per year just for the NVIDIA logo and a feature that most people turn off, and lower raster performance.
@DCalexFN yes, that would be if you ran it 24/7 with no sleep settings. If you're like most people, and you maybe game for a couple of hours, every other day or so, your actually looking about 1/10 that cost
This is exactly why I'm still hesitating between 7900XT and 4070 Ti S. It's about 80€ difference in Belgium. 4070 Ti S being the most expensive at 860~ and 7900XT being at 780~. But those ~100w are a huge deal for me. I've a 750w power supply and I don't want to upgrade it now since I don't have more money to spend on my computer right now.
Thank you for the PUBG benchmarks! Looks like a lot of frame spikes on the new RTX 4070 Ti Super, interested to see if this smooths out on future driver versions.
@@kevnor7909 That's not really how it works. You don't just slap an i9 on a 4090 and automatically get the best performance. As of right now the 7800X3D is THE best CPU for gaming, I imagine that the 9800X3D that will be releasing in about a week and a half will become the new king. The thing is, there is a 7900X3D and a 7950X3D that don't perform as well as the 7800X3D in gaming (but then again we're talking a difference of less than 5%). Either way, once you go to 1440p or above, the CPU doesn't play as much into the fps, as the games will offload the graphics processing onto the GPU rather than using it in conjunction with the CPU. Having said all of that... you will likely get the same fps with a 4090 whether you are using a 5700X, 5800X, or 5900X once you go to 1440p or above (within about a 5% margin), simply because of how video games handle graphics when you hit higher resolutions. If you NEED it for more than just gaming, like 3D rendering, animation, high density data processing or AI development, then yeah you probably want the best CPU, but if you're just gaming, you don't need an i9, even with a 4090.
Actually yes but no..because whatever rtx card you have when you turn on rtx you lost -%50 fps dude..so rtx is useless right now because of low fps..alan wake 2 turn on rtx you barely hit 30fps 😅😅😅😂
I'm also considering changing my graphics card. I currently have an RTX 3070 8GB + intel i5-13600K + ASUS Z790-A WIFI. I'm thinking about the RTX 4070 Ti Super or the Radeon 7900 XT. When it comes to gaming, I'm mainly interested in playing at 2K resolution or possibly speeding up video rendering. What would you recommend?
And ray tracing is 100% NOT worth the extra performance overhead. AMD absolutely destroys Nvidia in raster performance, splatting, and parallax. Nvidia is much more expensive than AMD for less performance in an average setting. It makes zero sense to go with Nvidia right now, unless ray tracing is THAT important to you.
you're right but at the moment it's not really worth it since it cut in half your performance and not supported by every game, so i'd still go for the 7900xt or xtx since it obliterate the 4070ti Super in "base" performance.
if you only do gaming, go for the xtx it's way more powerful as you can see there and in other benchmark and it have 8 more gb of vram, but if you do some 3d animation / modeling etc go for the 4070ti S.
RTX 4070 ti super and RX 7900xt are good video cards, but the RX 7900xtx which is much more expensive, who needs it and why at all, its cost is the same as the RTX 4080 which is 15% faster
if people think they will notice difference between 120fps and 127 fps, you are delusional. power draw, rt will take my money. I have 1000 watt home ups. Leaving those power draw headroom is crucial for me to not to trip the ups. Anyway please buy AMD so that I can have nvidea at a low price.
same thoughts as mine lol, people don't think twice bruh. last gen from AMD was much better regards power draw I think but i still was able to undervolt my Nvidia Card to i can my electricity bill even though gaining few fps over all that i bet they can do that with AMD, still don't own 4000 series card to see if that works as well but if it shows better performance per watt then yeah that's what matters cause in reselling or whatever it is you will get your money to move to next gen it's not like will be same price as AMD
This is an excellent point. Very often reviewers and benchmarks only compare full quality RT. There’s a significant difference when doing a lighter RT load. AMD can be very competitive there - the XTX made some very unexpected headway in the RT front from AMD. At full RT it is equivalent to a 3090, but if you go for balanced or lower RT I would be very interested to see if it doesn’t actually match FPS to the 4070 (or even Ti Super).
@@tripleS88 given some of the mods that you can download that help to optimize ray tracing and lower the overhead cost, I would say that the 7900 XTX should be able to perform at 4070 Ti Super, or even 4080 Super levels. The only reason AMD cards don't perform as well as Nvidia cards in the showcase games like CP2077 or Alan Wake II, is because those games are optimized for Nvidia cards, hell CP2077 even has an Nvidia logo in one of its start up splash screens. Any game that just uses ray tracing, and isn't fully optimized just for Nvidia, performs just as well on AMD, maybe about 5% lower, if that.
That grafic cards are AMD if you use RTX from Msi lol if you use other mark like i have Sapphire Pulse RX 7900 XT 20GB or Red Devil etc etc are better results grafic card from AMD give less FPS
you know that its not sapphire or msi that make the gpu chip?(the thing inside the graphic card that actually do the calculations and create the images you can see on your pc, you can see it on the middle of the card usually it's fixed with 4 screws around) they only create the fans and the other things around the actual gpu, the 7900xt like all RX gpus are from AMD and its the same for Nvidia they create the gpu and send them to brands like msi etc to create the card around it and then sell it.
I would go with the 7900 XT, better performance than the 4070 Ti Super in almost everything except ray tracing, $150-$200 cheaper on average (depending on your location), and more VRam to handle higher resolutions. I'm currently working on getting my hands on a 7900 XT, my 7800 XT was supposed to be my major upgrade for my 1080p setup, then my fiance got me a 1440p monitor so I want the 7900 XT now. My philosophy has always been to make my current resolution my bitch, but the 7800 XT is made for 1440p so I'm getting average fps... I don't want average, I want pwnage.
@@lenguyenquochuy5739wrong, in raster they are actually pretty close together, and if you wouldnt have the fps counter you wouldnt be able to tell which one is which.
@@lenguyenquochuy5739 so go and stay with PS4 game graphics then, where there is no improvement in gaming features. I'm not going to spend $900 on old-gen features.
@@azureskysenpai9383 but you'll spend $1000 - $1200 for a feature that costs you 40-50% of your fps for minimal visual improvement. This is why people who have been historically Nvidia-only users, are jumping over to AMD, because the Nvidia community is being overrun with Nvidia supremacists who think that anyone who buys anything else should just buy a console. I'll buy whatever I want, thank you.
According to the steam survey ~76% of all gamers are still using Nvidia GPUs. Why isn't it 90% for AMD, when everyone claims that they are so much better?
its like apple (in the US only since they're the biggest meat rider there, at global scale they're not 1st) people don't know sh*t and some guy recommend nvidia since its more popular(because nvidia started before amd) and they buy it + some nvidia fanboys talking sh*t about amd without even owning one recent model or watching many reviews from different places, so people get influenced since begginers don't know. It also come from a minority of 3d designers/animators prefer to buy nvidia since it's globally better for video rendering etc(but in some generations it won't be the case anymore since they decided to get better in that domain for example adding av1 encoder for streaming in better quality in the 7xxx gen.
raster looks like garbage . ray tracing all the way also the electricity bill is way higher than the diff between amd and nvidia cards so 4070ti super is best
It's amazing how efficient the 4070ti super is. I have one paired with a 7800x3d and the temp stays at about 50c at maximum load. My case has amazing airflow though, definitely a factor.
It would take you ten years or more for the electricity saved to equal the extra cost of the card. If you need to decode / encode codecs or render / animate or have AI workloads the Nvidia cards are the way to go. If all you do is play games and don't need the other features AMD are a good buy. I don't think I'd buy any card at the moment for RT performance because we are still a few generations away from cards doing it without a significant performance hit. Even the 4090 has middling performance with RT engaged.
The 7900xtx is not a good card for 1000 Euro. Power draw is to huge and the performance ist not even better than the 4070 ti super. The only Thing is the 24 GB vram. But is it worth it? I think no....
Its alot faster then the 4070ti super when not using raytracing. Raytracing is also not used by most people due to reducing performance for small visual improvements. But 1000 Euros is a ton for a 7900xtx since where i am from its anywhere from 800$ to 900$
When AMD cards were more efficient the Nvidia fanboys said it didn't matter - now that Nvidia are efficient it's suddenly important. Welcome to Groupthink mentality.
La 4070ti en varios juegos solo usa 7.8 GB Vram en algunos juegos , quizás por eso es más lenta que la 7900xtx…….. Por eso en el primer juego de avatar iba mejor que estaba usando 10GB vram
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Everyone talking about the power consumption difference, as if it's a big deal. Right now, Ireland has some of the highest electricity costs in the world at around $0.45 USD per kWh (using USD for reference). That comes out to $10.53 extra per month to use a 7900 XT over a 4070 Ti Super... $10.53 extra... That's 9.75€ or £8.12 per month... unless you are living paycheck to paycheck (which, if you are, how are you affording a 4070 Ti Super, OR a 7900 XT), then you are 100% splitting hairs to justify spending a ton of extra money on an NVIDIA GPU.
Yeah I never understood that argument it's really no big deal to me at all how much power they use lol!
It turns out that you will pay an additional $120 every year, just for choosing red, without additional productivity
@chasavoichirik2183 and? Again, that's only $10 per month, less than $0.50 per day. By contrast, if you chose say a 4070 Ti Super over a 7900 XT, you would pay around $200 more, if you upgrade every other cycle you would have paid $50 more per year just for the NVIDIA logo and a feature that most people turn off, and lower raster performance.
It also depends how long you use your pc for, so realistically its about half that price per month
@DCalexFN yes, that would be if you ran it 24/7 with no sleep settings. If you're like most people, and you maybe game for a couple of hours, every other day or so, your actually looking about 1/10 that cost
4070 Ti S seems to stomp on 2 aspects: power usage and RTX calculation. ~100 W is a lot!
This is exactly why I'm still hesitating between 7900XT and 4070 Ti S. It's about 80€ difference in Belgium. 4070 Ti S being the most expensive at 860~ and 7900XT being at 780~. But those ~100w are a huge deal for me. I've a 750w power supply and I don't want to upgrade it now since I don't have more money to spend on my computer right now.
@@neyth1942 The recommended power supply for 4070 Ti Super is 850W
@@TockRock4884cant be true, the reccomended psu for a 4090 is a 850w
@@neyth1942 Hello, what has been your final decision ? 7900 XT or 4070 Ti S ? Thanks
@@DaVid-uv3kj I bought the 4070 Ti super. Was almost the same price and I didn't want to change my power supply. I'm happh with it !
Thank you for the PUBG benchmarks! Looks like a lot of frame spikes on the new RTX 4070 Ti Super, interested to see if this smooths out on future driver versions.
Bro, I owner rx 7900 xt and pubg stutters like crazy, my old rtx 2060 more playable in pubg than this rx 7900 xt
@@teutonicknight8198 Yes it happens to all the AMD cards, same thing on the 6900xt I have, low latency mode helps.
@@loxety I’m thinking about selling my rx 7900 xt, and buy rtx 4070 ti super
@@loxetylow latency mode?
@@teutonicknight8198 Yes, you need to turn on this feature in AMD driver
Thanks for the review, the 5900x will bottleneck the 7900xtx by 10% btw. Sadly the 4070ti Super and the 7900xtx are still too expensive 😢
First, r9 and i9 aren't for gaming, second, an 5700x or 5800 x doesn't even bottleneck an 4090
@@Cog222 the 5700x and 5800x will bottleneck the sh.. out of an 4090, that’s why you should pair it with the strongest CPU if possible
@@kevnor7909 That's not really how it works. You don't just slap an i9 on a 4090 and automatically get the best performance. As of right now the 7800X3D is THE best CPU for gaming, I imagine that the 9800X3D that will be releasing in about a week and a half will become the new king. The thing is, there is a 7900X3D and a 7950X3D that don't perform as well as the 7800X3D in gaming (but then again we're talking a difference of less than 5%).
Either way, once you go to 1440p or above, the CPU doesn't play as much into the fps, as the games will offload the graphics processing onto the GPU rather than using it in conjunction with the CPU. Having said all of that... you will likely get the same fps with a 4090 whether you are using a 5700X, 5800X, or 5900X once you go to 1440p or above (within about a 5% margin), simply because of how video games handle graphics when you hit higher resolutions.
If you NEED it for more than just gaming, like 3D rendering, animation, high density data processing or AI development, then yeah you probably want the best CPU, but if you're just gaming, you don't need an i9, even with a 4090.
@@Cog222 5800x bottleneck 4090 even in 4k
@@drthbn no lol stop listening to bottleneck calculators online theyre completely wrong
4080 is just like pay extra for ray tracing that it’s !
Thank you, for that great comparison! Great games, with great Videocars :)
NVIDIA is only better with ray tracings. Thats about it.
Actually yes but no..because whatever rtx card you have when you turn on rtx you lost -%50 fps dude..so rtx is useless right now because of low fps..alan wake 2 turn on rtx you barely hit 30fps 😅😅😅😂
@@ilyasbuyuklu1587 and nvidia also eats 100W less than xtx
@@Lynxique so what ? You pay double price for nvidia gpu m8..do you know how many electric bills is it ?
But today it makes a lot of difference in gaming. 7900 xtx waste more energy too
@@ilyasbuyuklu1587don't mind be buying Nvidia GPU to use blender to get double the performance 😅
I'm also considering changing my graphics card. I currently have an RTX 3070 8GB + intel i5-13600K + ASUS Z790-A WIFI. I'm thinking about the RTX 4070 Ti Super or the Radeon 7900 XT. When it comes to gaming, I'm mainly interested in playing at 2K resolution or possibly speeding up video rendering. What would you recommend?
If you are really interested in raytracing you should take nvidia but if not amd is the cheaper and better option
@ thanks
@@dadslookno problem
I think when it comes to Ray tracing, Nvidia surpasses AMD
It does but ray tracing isn't worth squat. It's just fluff.
True, still replacing my 3080 for the 7900xtx. Byebye NVIDIA
Raytracing 💩
And ray tracing is 100% NOT worth the extra performance overhead. AMD absolutely destroys Nvidia in raster performance, splatting, and parallax. Nvidia is much more expensive than AMD for less performance in an average setting. It makes zero sense to go with Nvidia right now, unless ray tracing is THAT important to you.
you're right but at the moment it's not really worth it since it cut in half your performance and not supported by every game, so i'd still go for the 7900xt or xtx since it obliterate the 4070ti Super in "base" performance.
It is weird testing. U should all rt off or on. In comparison. And not randomly turn it off and on without any logic
Thank you for indicating whether those fps are with rt on or rt off
7900xtx and 4070ti super are the same price in my country, which should i pick ?
If you dont care about ray tracing go red.
What psu u got ? With a 4070t-s u need 750w psu and with rx 7900xtx u would need an 850w psu
@Dacky01 i got a 1000w rog strix psu 💀
@@matiasroldan9994 Well them just go with the Good one
if you only do gaming, go for the xtx it's way more powerful as you can see there and in other benchmark and it have 8 more gb of vram, but if you do some 3d animation / modeling etc go for the 4070ti S.
performance of RTX 4070 TI SUPER ≈ performance RX 7900 xt
The power consumption is the only thing that deters me from buying AMD.
Yup.. costly.
RTX 4070 ti super and RX 7900xt are good video cards, but the RX 7900xtx which is much more expensive, who needs it and why at all, its cost is the same as the RTX 4080 which is 15% faster
if people think they will notice difference between 120fps and 127 fps, you are delusional. power draw, rt will take my money. I have 1000 watt home ups. Leaving those power draw headroom is crucial for me to not to trip the ups. Anyway please buy AMD so that I can have nvidea at a low price.
Yeah and then you encourage nGreedAI to do the shit they do.
Maybe walk the walk that you're talking about
same thoughts as mine lol, people don't think twice bruh. last gen from AMD was much better regards power draw I think but i still was able to undervolt my Nvidia Card to i can my electricity bill even though gaining few fps over all that i bet they can do that with AMD, still don't own 4000 series card to see if that works as well but if it shows better performance per watt then yeah that's what matters cause in reselling or whatever it is you will get your money to move to next gen it's not like will be same price as AMD
good job next pls add call of duty
My 3090 pulls 70 frames at 4k ultra on Forza. How
can u do comparisons with low or medium ray tracings
This is an excellent point. Very often reviewers and benchmarks only compare full quality RT. There’s a significant difference when doing a lighter RT load. AMD can be very competitive there - the XTX made some very unexpected headway in the RT front from AMD. At full RT it is equivalent to a 3090, but if you go for balanced or lower RT I would be very interested to see if it doesn’t actually match FPS to the 4070 (or even Ti Super).
@@tripleS88 given some of the mods that you can download that help to optimize ray tracing and lower the overhead cost, I would say that the 7900 XTX should be able to perform at 4070 Ti Super, or even 4080 Super levels. The only reason AMD cards don't perform as well as Nvidia cards in the showcase games like CP2077 or Alan Wake II, is because those games are optimized for Nvidia cards, hell CP2077 even has an Nvidia logo in one of its start up splash screens. Any game that just uses ray tracing, and isn't fully optimized just for Nvidia, performs just as well on AMD, maybe about 5% lower, if that.
Cyberpunk xtx 1440p ultra graphics. Rt ultra fsr quality i get much more fps for some reason
right now 4070ti super is like 70$ cheaper then 7900 xtx i think its a good deal not very much differences
I prefer ray tracing
That grafic cards are AMD if you use RTX from Msi lol if you use other mark like i have Sapphire Pulse RX 7900 XT 20GB or Red Devil etc etc are better results grafic card from AMD give less FPS
you know that its not sapphire or msi that make the gpu chip?(the thing inside the graphic card that actually do the calculations and create the images you can see on your pc, you can see it on the middle of the card usually it's fixed with 4 screws around) they only create the fans and the other things around the actual gpu, the 7900xt like all RX gpus are from AMD and its the same for Nvidia they create the gpu and send them to brands like msi etc to create the card around it and then sell it.
So which one should I get
what did you get
@@EIsaMars nothing yet
I would go with the 7900 XT, better performance than the 4070 Ti Super in almost everything except ray tracing, $150-$200 cheaper on average (depending on your location), and more VRam to handle higher resolutions. I'm currently working on getting my hands on a 7900 XT, my 7800 XT was supposed to be my major upgrade for my 1080p setup, then my fiance got me a 1440p monitor so I want the 7900 XT now. My philosophy has always been to make my current resolution my bitch, but the 7800 XT is made for 1440p so I'm getting average fps... I don't want average, I want pwnage.
Lmao @@Rickety
I think 4070 ti super is the best 40 series card of Nvidia. What you guys think? 🤔
Price to performance for nvidia 40 series yes
Why is there so much of a difference with cyberpunk wtf?
Game runs better on nvidia cards
Raytracing. The only thing nvidia cards good at. RT off and 7900xt beats it no sweat
@@lenguyenquochuy5739wrong, in raster they are actually pretty close together, and if you wouldnt have the fps counter you wouldnt be able to tell which one is which.
@@lenguyenquochuy5739 so go and stay with PS4 game graphics then, where there is no improvement in gaming features. I'm not going to spend $900 on old-gen features.
@@azureskysenpai9383 but you'll spend $1000 - $1200 for a feature that costs you 40-50% of your fps for minimal visual improvement. This is why people who have been historically Nvidia-only users, are jumping over to AMD, because the Nvidia community is being overrun with Nvidia supremacists who think that anyone who buys anything else should just buy a console. I'll buy whatever I want, thank you.
According to the steam survey ~76% of all gamers are still using Nvidia GPUs. Why isn't it 90% for AMD, when everyone claims that they are so much better?
Because action speaks louder than fanboys typing speed
because i bought my 1060 amd was much more expensive in my country than in america and always out of stock
Both companies make good products. Allegiance to either camp is ridiculous.
its like apple (in the US only since they're the biggest meat rider there, at global scale they're not 1st) people don't know sh*t and some guy recommend nvidia since its more popular(because nvidia started before amd) and they buy it + some nvidia fanboys talking sh*t about amd without even owning one recent model or watching many reviews from different places, so people get influenced since begginers don't know. It also come from a minority of 3d designers/animators prefer to buy nvidia since it's globally better for video rendering etc(but in some generations it won't be the case anymore since they decided to get better in that domain for example adding av1 encoder for streaming in better quality in the 7xxx gen.
raster looks like garbage . ray tracing all the way also the electricity bill is way higher than the diff between amd and nvidia cards so 4070ti super is best
It's amazing how efficient the 4070ti super is. I have one paired with a 7800x3d and the temp stays at about 50c at maximum load. My case has amazing airflow though, definitely a factor.
@@Pilesformiles yep your cpu and GPU are very great
It would take you ten years or more for the electricity saved to equal the extra cost of the card. If you need to decode / encode codecs or render / animate or have AI workloads the Nvidia cards are the way to go. If all you do is play games and don't need the other features AMD are a good buy. I don't think I'd buy any card at the moment for RT performance because we are still a few generations away from cards doing it without a significant performance hit. Even the 4090 has middling performance with RT engaged.
@@tdunster2011 are u stupid? In a month the difference becomes around 60 to 70 usd in the electricity bill stop the 🧢
Lol then don't buy a PC
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The 7900xtx is not a good card for 1000 Euro. Power draw is to huge and the performance ist not even better than the 4070 ti super. The only Thing is the 24 GB vram. But is it worth it? I think no....
Its alot faster then the 4070ti super when not using raytracing. Raytracing is also not used by most people due to reducing performance for small visual improvements. But 1000 Euros is a ton for a 7900xtx since where i am from its anywhere from 800$ to 900$
When AMD cards were more efficient the Nvidia fanboys said it didn't matter - now that Nvidia are efficient it's suddenly important. Welcome to Groupthink mentality.
@@tdunster2011 Completely agree with you! lol
Have you watched the video with your butt? Rx 7900 xtx mopped the floors with Rtx 4070 ti super.
4070ti super 👍👍👍👍👍
La 4070ti en varios juegos solo usa 7.8 GB Vram en algunos juegos , quizás por eso es más lenta que la 7900xtx……..
Por eso en el primer juego de avatar iba mejor que estaba usando 10GB vram
this is bullshit, according to 10 other benchmarks rx 7900xt performs such as a rtx 4080
Cry