People moan about the big screen in a tesla. You want bad? Try driving A Cupra as I did
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ค. 2024
- I'm a big fan of the "put everything on the screen" approach. But I know it's controversial. But Tesla are doing something good, because every other manufacturer is copying.
I spent 48 hours in a Cupra Leon hire car. And it was Not Good...
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Not to mention all the voice commands.
I have the latest Model 3 RWD so no stalks. It was driven into whilst parked in a car park, as a Range Rover Evoque drove off from my offside towards the f/o/s of my car hitting and disloging the front bumper. It then reversed to detach before driving off. Sentry mode saved me in that I could see the VRM of the offender and what happened.
I have been told I cannot drive it due to the bumper having a large hole burst from inside to out leaving sharp edges. They have provided me a coutesy car, Tesla Model 3 LR that is 2 years old. It is amazing how much extra is involved between them and the stalks seem a real step back from the buttons. I love how Tesla always put information in bottom left, next to the driver, easy within visibility.
Other cars with buttons, often involved having to look away from the road and down into the lower section to find the correct knob or switch. The screens on many cars are also too low taking your eyesight from the road. This is where the Tesla wins again, important information is easy to see whilst still being able to see the road.
Tesla makes sense and especially the buttons instead of stalks. Stalks are an old way of doing it and I am finding my hands stay on the wheel far more, by having the buttons.
Truth be told, I was a bit put off by the *thought* of having to depend on the infotainment interface, especially with having the speedometer off to the side and no knobs and buttons for environment controls, but after watching many videos of people using the interface successfully, I decided that I could probably acclimatize to the GUI if it were not too bad. Do note that I bought Perl, sight unseen, having never actually been inside any Tesla until I arrived to pick her up from Atlanta, I guess I exhibited a great amount of trust in channels like yours, and maybe a bit of reckless lack of caution. Still, there is a special grace that God bestows on fools like myself, and though at first it did require quite a bit of adjustment on my part I found myself liking it. In fact the adjustment wasn't really any worse than what I had experienced many times just switching from one brand of ICE car to another in the past. I now find that I actually prefer having many of the controls through the screen, and I certainly love having the screen on long trips for entertainment and information when parked.
Hello, I find that there is a learning curve with the Tesla instrumentation, but, for me, I got very comfortable with it very quickly. Now I have had my Tesla model 3 for a year now and I don't even think about it anymore. I get in my car and just drive.
Good point on voice commands. You can also simply say “I’m cold” and the temp goes up 1.5 degrees. This is amazing. The reverse also works.
or just say "my balls are cold" and see what happens
I love my Tesla interface. It all just makes so much sense. I hate my wife's car with excessive buttons everywhere, many of which provide several ways to do the same thing.
I’ve rented an ID3, and a Mk8 VW Golf. I had that moment driving away from Hamburg airport on a cold night where 5 minutes later the windscreen slowly started fogging up. I had to pull over in heavy traffic to figure out where the defogging button was. Just go to “weird home button” -> “climate control” -> and then you’ll find the familiar icon.
Edit: OK so I say “just”. What I now remember was that I went onto google while parked on a busy road to figure out the de-fogging. It’s easy ish when you know how. But when it’s all new, and you’re in a hurry, it’s just a big pile of hot garbage.
And then on my Tesla, I don’t even need to touch the screen at all. The car auto defogs all by itself without intervention. It knows before I know. That’s how it should be, except for the windscreen wipers, but even then - no touch screen.
There is a direct button for this next to the light switches as well (as shown in this video). No need to go through the touchscreen.
I will never buy another Tesla if they don’t provide the stalks and buttons.
I am very right-handed and in a RH drive car I have to make several prods at the screen with my left hand before I get it correctly. That’s stationary: when driving it’s just dangerous. With buttons and knobs muscle memory makes you hit the spot and the feel tells you you’ve got it right. I’m sure Lefties may have the same issue in a LH drive car. Touchscreens in a moving vehicle are just awful.
Maybe one day, you'll be a Tesla driver.
Was test driving a model s for rear suspension noise(drove really nice). The customer had to switch off radio for me. He did it via that touch screen, which was starting to delaminate.😮 Touch screens have that trick of looking impressive/expensive but are in fact very cheap to manufacture. But are necessary for the overall efficiency of the vehicle I prefer button's/stalks provided they are set out correctly I accept some people prefer touch screens.
me too, but I will live with that. May beTeslas should be allowed to drive on the right? How about that fo an idea.
Talk to it. It understands the commands I hardly ever have to use the screen whilst driving. Learn the important ones. My feet are cold. Navigate to. Set fan speed 4 Make it warmer. Pick the ones you are struggling to use the screen.
I am right handed and I have no issues. May I suggest the issue is you not being adaptable enough. Buttons are fine but plenty of people have no issues and you are not the only person who is right handed.
The buzz bombs and V2s barely fazed the British, but the VW UI bomb ...
I am 67 and bought my first Tesla -3 weeks ago. It's the old man's spec, a RWD Model Y. What surprised me is how quickly I got used to it! Firstly, the lack of an instrument cluster was a total non event. There is nothing there so what's to miss. My other car is a BMW i3, which has a small cluster, but I don't even notice it when switching between the cars. I forgot to adjust the wing mirrors before setting off from Brent Cross but sorted that easily at the first red traffic light. The voice commands work very well so that really helps. What I realise is how few changes / adjustments I actually make when driving, once things are set up.
The one thing that is still getting me when switching between the cars is the wipers but I'll get used to that. I also don't like how conservative the front parking warning is - even pulling up to a flat wall it is sounding off when I am still 2 feet away. This is very important in our miniscule UK parking bays
What I don''t get is the visualisation that takes up a big chunk of the screen. Why do I need to see that when I can see it all in much more detail out of the windscreen in front of me! I suppose seeing cars coming up from behind is useful (due to the tiny mirrors) but I would be happy with a blind spot warning beep. I am sure it is all to do with self driving but I don't have that. It does amuse the grandkids though!
Overall I am very happy with my Tesla but the i3 is much more fun to drive
Latest 3 & Y's have an LED blind spot warning in the speakers next to the front passenger windows. Why it isn't in the mirror like everyone else is beyond me...
Just bought the model 3 2 weeks ago once set up i get in and just drive it put it in drive or reverse without me touching screen and buttons on steering wheel i find easy to get used to but what car
I own a leon, and am a bit puzzled.... weren't the lights on auto-mode clearly indicated by the AUTO-indicator light next to the buttons? Never had to touch that panel unless needed to put fog lights on (which do turn on an indicator in the dash).
And the screen brightness annoyed me when I first got my car as well... but changing it is not really that hard. Click on the car =>settings=>interior=>infotainment and there it is 10-100%. Found this in under a minute when originally adjusted it.
With older sw versions the android auto did sometimes crash the screen for me aswell, but haven't had that issue in 18 months now. And having it really makes the infotainment a moot point for me as being able to plan navigation routes before getting into the car, no need to login to anything within the car, etc. is IMO the most convenient way to use these services.
I'm not saying that the infotainment on these is great as it is laggy and would prefer more physical controls, but these points are more related to the fact that it was a new car for you and probably running on an outdated sw version (which has been updated OTA several times).
I've driven a Tesla and while you think that it is intuitive, for a first timer it has it's learning curve as well.
Yes they are god points however what you miss is the fact that the entire VAG group sues the same software which is inefficient, laggy, slow and downright dangerous.
I came across a recent ID.3 owners who literally screamed his head off because his car crashed for the 3rd time that day man well n early causing an accident.
Tesla software is not perfect but it is a lot lot lot better than anything else out there and whilst there can be a slight learning curve for those who are not used to software or the digital age it is much safer and far easier to use.
@@taefravis how exactly did the software cause this guy to crash three times in one day??? As you mentioned the whole VAG group uses the same software and I have yet to hear from a single crash caused by it.
I’m not super technical and I love how easy the 2024 model 3 is to use!! Easiest most intuitive car I’ve ever owned and I’ve owned a few. Seems like less things to fix later on to me.
More than two years down the line I still haven't mastered all the corners and wrinkles of my Model Y system.
( Good effort yesterday )
15 years in and I still haven't mastered the corners and wrinkles of my first Android phone. It's true, I got rid of it 2 weeks after having it, it had a junk interface and never touched one since then.
It took me about a day to learn the corners and wrinkles of my Tesla UI.
Most cars you sit in, you have to fight with the unintuitive infotainment sysyem, I never did figure out how to change the clock in my old Merc, but I sat in a Tesla and could find everything I looked for with a few taps, if you can work a smartphone, you can work a Tesla
People are unable to try new things and complain without trying. As I don't have good left side sight, I have learned to use voice comands. Also I find easier to read a good screen (with good interface) than bottoms. I wish my car had a screen like the Teslas.
The Tesla I drove for a fair distance wasn't the easiest screen to read but before leaving it, I realised that there is the option for a bigger font, where you choose the bigger font in settings and re-boot the screen. It's a lot better.
@@gbreslin6635 True, but it needs an EXTRA large font as well IMO
Great video once again ian keep them coming 👍👍
Thanks for this video.. I am so tired of all, and I mean all motor journalists that constantly nag about that the world is going under because Tesla is moving away from stalks and trillions of buttons. They claim it is dangerous in traffic. I say that's a bunch of BS. I drive a Highland and have done so since december. Last week I had a friend visit. He drove my Tesla for the first time. He was amazed how easy it was to drive. He have a Volvo XC 70 from 2016 with a zillion of knobs. He loved the clean driving place. We also tried a model Y..I was having problems with the stalks...Being used to buttons it feels weird with stalks for turning indicators and gear shifting. And all babbel about missing knobs for all controls I don't understand at all. Tesla is just as easy as an iPhone regarding the menus. How often do people change settings for the lights? I set it once and haven't touched it since. Lights are completly automatic from daytime running lights all up to full beam.
Tbh, I kind of miss the CarPlay screen I had in my previous car. But the Tesla screen/ui isn’t bad either. But for control of music/nav while driving, CarPlay isn’t easily beaten. For most other stuff, I don’t miss the buttons. I still hope that Tesla would reserve a part (1/8th?) to support CarPlay (or android auto, for that matter).
But looking at the total experience, the Tesla screen/ui isn’t beaten yet. And possibly won’t anytime soon.
I don’t mention that voice control in my Tesla still feels kind of sub-standard. The iPhone was far better.
I am unlucky that when I bought my Tesla it already had the search function in the UI. I say unlucky because I have not yet bothered to remember under which sub menu is the car wash mode or the wiper service mode. All I do is I click the search button and type in wash or wiper and I get to the right menu item that I need that is the first search result.
Tesla UI is just amazing
My opinion... I think other manufacturers are using screens because having most things controlled via a screen reduces the cost of making the car as a result of not needing wires to multiple switches. I don’t have a problem with a screen per se, or the software, but trying to place your finger on a flat plane to ‘hit’ an icon is difficult unless you take your eyes off the road to look at the screen. Even then, on many UK roads the car is pitching a yawing so your finger might miss the target and switch something else! With a physical switch you can feel for it and also steady your hand using adjacent surfaces without unintentionally triggering some othe function.
The owner of a Tesla doesn't need to adjust on the screen while driving.
If you are using a screen on a Model 3 or Y there's a trick to touchscreen while moving. For the bottom, assuming palm facing up, curl fingers on back of screen to steady and use thumb to select. You can't do that on screens built into the dash. Best to be in autopilot, or stopped really rather than find yourself staring at the screen while driving.
I drive a CUPRA born, the software is awful. Repairs have to be booked weeks in advance and generally take a while. Replacing a window switch took six days
Has your reversing camera lens fell out Yet? 😂
@@Dave5118 not yet, although the puddle lights that used to show the CUPRA emblem now just display some random shape.
The brake servo has just been replaced, sounded like a nest of rats under it. Wasn’t too bad, only took five months to get it booked and nine days to replace it
@@graham1155 Yeah, seat dealerships are about the worse I've come across, I waited 6 weeks to have the rear camera repaired. Yhey had the car 3 hours before they realised the part hadn't actually arrived. And then 4 weeks later, an half day job took 2 days. 🙄
My Tesla Model Y has the same problem with the screen misting up. Touch the demist icon, and it gets worse before it gets better. Maybe it is using VW code ? ;-)
Could be!
Great video
It's clear from recent car reviewers that they are pushing for more independent switches. Some manufacturers seem to be maintaining them as well like the Hyundai group and Peugeot.
I previously had a Skoda Enyaq 60 from 2021 and actually thought it was a good car let down by the software. That’s not to say that Skoda didn’t try to make the best of it as where possible they had real buttons and the most common things were controlled by buttons on the steering wheel. I almost went for a new Tesla model 3 in January but I was put off by the lack of stalks on the Tesla and went for another Enyaq but this time the 85 edition which was also cheaper per month. This is on to v4 of the software and to be honest I think the Skoda iteration is probably the best of the VAG implementations. I still think I made the right decision though for a number of reasons; Range is better (I’m getting around 300 miles for a full charge), familiarity, versatility, comfort and the performance is much the same as a model 3 (0-60 in 6.6 seconds). The Tesla still wins on handling and the gui but that was the compromise.
Screen is great on Tesla. Main things are in the same place so easy to use. And voice commands are the way forward. Tesla is good but needs improving for voice.
The latest update on my M3LR killed my Sat Nav - for a day, then it was ok again... Tesla aren't perfect, but nobody is.
I love my Highland in Ultra Red but had some bad luck with it already - new windscreen within a week cos of a huge rock chip & a harris fence fell down the side of it last week - sounded like nails on a chalkboard.
Big News! Tesla fan likes the Tesla screen!
Next up a person who likes sausages saying how good sausages are.
Try a Skoda Enyaq next time - VAG but has real buttons! I drive an Enyaq and a M3, there are plus and minus to both. If I were unfamiliar with Tesla not sure I would want to pick one up at Heathrow or Gatwick and immediately contend with the M25. I used to do this regularly and it was not much fun after a long haul flight as it was always a different and unfamiliar hire car.
Tesla is much less of a new brand these days.
VW have lost millions and millions in software development and have lost customers because of the infortainment system. We have a Cupra Born and saving grace is actually the chassis and handling and great internal space. You do get used to the infortainment system eventually.
Sounds like Lexus. I loved the NX I borrowed for a few weeks with the major exception of the GUI which was terrible
I like your videos. Normally well balanced, but not this one. I wouldn’t argue that the Tesla software system, and its screen are actually quite good. What irritated me about this video was the way you seem to be slagging off the whole of the VW group for one awful experience you had in a Seat. I drive an ID3 and would freely admit that VW have not a great record with their software development. My ID3 software (V3.5) just works. The sat nav works. Apple CarPlay works. I set the aircon and leave it alone cos it works. Nothing is perfect. And don’t start me on the new M3 indicator system. I drove one with the possibility of getting one. Not with that dangerous indicator system though.
I’m saying what I read. I put up the screengrab of reporting of the sliders which seem to be broadly hated.
@@justgetatesla I think it’s what you get used to. I don’t mind buttonless interfaces but they can sometimes be quite dangerous if trying to change something whilst driving. The VW sliders were daft. Also not lit at night but the ID3 has buttons on the steering wheel which mimics the slider. Yeah, I know, they are haptics. Again it’s what you get used to, and I quite like them.
German tech is awful. All their cars are the same . Try working on their dishwashers ! Great vid dude xx
I love Bosch stuff. My go to brand for appliances
Really interesting video, may make a tesla my next electric car, as long as the price comes down
Tesla may have started the trend but most car companies are following it. The reason they are getting rid of the knobs, switches and buttons is pretty simple. It is not because people want them to go away. It is because it is cheaper to engineer and build a car around a computer screen than it is to engineer and build a car with knobs, switches and buttons. It increases the profit margin on each car.
I work in the I.T. field and the worst thing you can do to a computer is have high amounts of heat and lots of vibrations. I don't trust these new infotainment systems that control all the car functions to last more than 5-6 years. It is now just as important to have a technology warranty as it is to have a power train warranty.
As an I.T. person, my biggest issue is that it causes all the critical interfaces in the car to have a single point of failure. If the screen fails you can't adjust the AC/Heat, the windshield wiper settings, turn on the defrost, and so forth. Heck, in the Tesla you can't even adjust your side mirrors if the screen goes out.
IMHO, if the infotainment/screen goes out then you should still be able to drive your car until you can get it fixed. With many of the modern cars you can't.
My place of work just supplied me with a new Toyota RAV4. I was pleasantly surprised that the AC/Heat controls are big knobs that are easy to reach. The touchscreen is the radio, apple carplay/Android Auto and a few informational screens that you don't need to operate the car. That is the way it should be.
Long live analog controls!!!
just checked the Tesla site today they have 0% interest...
just need to hunt reasonable insurance first
Just found a site called Sheilas Wheels (for men also) very very competitive
I've just come from a Cupra Leon PHEV to a tesla M3RWD, and the tesla is lightyears ahead. If you think the software is pants now, you should have seen it 3 years ago. 🙄Totally dogsh*t!! I do have a couple of issues with your review though. The traffic/rerouting is part of the 'premium connectivity' as in the Tesla, and works almost as good as the Tesla tbf. The volume control is easily adjusted on the steering wheel, and my car had no issues demisting the front window at all. Other than that, a fair review overall. I had many reliability issues in my 3 year lease, and ended up on first names terms with the local seat dealership 😂 who were dogshi*t as well though. 🤨 would never touch a VAG car again, totally lost their way.
I know the volume knob is on the wheel - we couldn’t see the slider one in the dark as not backlit.
As for objecting to me reporting the screen listing, don’t blame me! It kept bloody doing it 😂
@@justgetatesla Just remembered, I had 'auto demist' on my VZ2 actually, so never had to do anything. May have been different on the bog standard v1 maybe?
If you connect your Tesla to a mobile hotspot on your phone you get everything except the century mode remote view. No remote connectivity subscription needed 👍
@@Joeb4iley That is incorrect. There are many 'enhanced' features you simply don't get if you only hotspot to your phone. The most obvious one is satellite view for maps, and there are many others. For AU$10 per month, or AU$99 per year, it is worth it IMO. FSD on the other hand... No thanks.
I currently drive a bmw 330e and it will be swapped to a my.
In the bmw I almost never adjust the climate system and lights are always on automode.
I don’t see the need of physical buttons for these functions.
A lot of cars seem to be going switchless.
Naa not buying tesla cutting corners all the time in quality and no real sun blind on that roof forget it..lol and dont even start about the bar of soap look..your just hating because you haven't got a clue how to adjust screen brightness which is ridiculous and obviously you can set what your preferences you just dont know how to use it.. your video is ridiculous how much is the tesla price compared to a bog standard leon which is a hire car at the lowest spec the hire company can buy....just sit in an audi conversation over
I've also clicked on quite a few videos / channels which I thought were ridiculous. I don't watch them all the way through then help that channel even more by commenting which of course boosts the algorithm. So thanks for your help!
After watching your video and listening to the obviously brainwashed opinion there is no way I would ever buy a Tesla or any other EV. But then again at my age i probably wont nave to worry about it. If an EV works for you thats fine. But they dont fit every persons life style or needs. ICE cars are still the best imo. Nobody should force you to be required to buy EV. Everything you say its just your opinion and you have every right to express it. Where someone lives and what they require are the deciding factors in a purchase. Have a nice day.
You need to voice you opinions on a NON Tesla channel - people might hear you.
I will have a nice day - thanks for promoting my channel about something you don’t like.