Funny how last couple of years Josh Allen keeps getting criticism for his physical style of play and risk of injury yet its the QBs that dont run much or slide as soon as possible that are getting hurt and missing alot of the season
I think its more of a longevity thing. Yea when theyre running they can avoid a lot of the surprise hits that cause serious ACUTE injury. Over time, i think we will see that the more athletic quarterbacks maybe sacrifice some of their longevity for explosivity. We will see
I’ve never seen so much cuddling for a QB like they do Joe burrow. One SB appearance IN A LOSS just continues to be all they bring up. Lamar missed the two seasons that Joe made all those playoff runs. Lamar was called injury prone but yet Joe being injured alot & it’s crickets. Because he went to a SB & LOSS like the bias is ridiculous. If he gets injured again this year i don’t want to hear the BS anymore & they killed Lamar for losing to the champs but burrow gets a pass for losing to the patriots lol
I think the problem with teams like the eagles and Bengals are that they are always rated based on when they went to the superbowl and never on recent woes. It's 3 years later and we're still hearing about well this same team went to the SB so they could do it again. How many teams have gone and never went back? We gotta have honest recent discourse not always trying to give people the legacy protection cuz of a peak 1 year
They love Josh when he plays like this…until he gets hurt and then everyone is on his head abt playing like this. At least Greeny is consistent. The rest of you lot gotta MAKE UP UR MINDS. (imo Josh needs save this typa play for the playoffs bc it does put his body at risk. If he needs to be doing all this in week 1, that’s not a good sign for the team-but ig we knew that already)
I think his play is fine. Him and Mahomes have been the only two QBs who have remained healthy. The QBs that don’t run or play scared tend to be the ones that get hurt.
Man every year I re-sign up to Cultanon. I receive my shirtless Tua poster and copy of King Tua’s version of the bible. I read that book and pray to the shirtless Tua poster that he may turn the corner and beat (or at least be competitive) against good teams. 4 years in a row and shirtless Tua has smirked and bogey’d my dreams. I pray this one is different and will put on my blinders until the season is over. May Tua save our souls.
Josh Allen does everything a quarterback is supposed to do, yet he still gets criticized. Meanwhile, Lamont Jackson misses on three easy passes to win a game, and the media makes excuses for him. It's a shame that ESPN always finds a way to pass the blame.
Lamont Jackson is crazy, and just proves you got some white savior complex because it’s actually reverse. Lamar Jackson is exactly who you described Josh is, came into the league with a shitty offense and still as a rookie and got them to the playoffs after they were out of contention because of Flacco and still has done the same every year with not so great offenses and carrying them. Josh Allen is always talked about being MVP barely any criticism towards him except he can’t beat Mahomes but now he can’t even beat Lamar too. ESPN rides for Josh and has always criticized Lamar
Orlovsky, 2024: " _You can't succeed with [a 1-dimensional] QB playing in shotgun all day_ ' Detroit Lions: " _Oh my, gosh. Why didn't you tell us during Stafford's [12-year] 45% win rate_ ' Orlovsky: ' _Hush your mouth; you were in on the ruse_ ' 😉😉😉😉
The thing about the Bengals long term is that Mgmt is cheap, and now that Burrow is being paid, they will not spend the money to surround him with talent.
I’m a Bengals and Rams fan…. I love both number 9s. However, GIDDY UP JOSH ALLEN IS MY FAVORITE PLAYER HANDS DOWN!!!! Him jumping over 3 guys Superman into the end zone is why he is my favorite player!!!
People have a hard time understanding 2 things can be right at the same time… Josh is at his best when making high risk plays but in turn that also is a double edged sword that tends to cut him whenever he gets into a meaningful game , so yes Josh is a good QB and makes high risk plays to help his team and yes those same plays will also dig them deeper into losing the game if the risk fails
As a Dolphan, I've got $100 on every one of their games but don't expect them to win this one. ESPECIALLY after what we saw last week vs Jax. Miami's OLine needs to step up their protection, buy the receivers more time to run their routes - I hope I'm wrong but I doubt it
Come on Greeny, every game counts the same in the end. A win is worth a win, whether it's week 1 or week 18. Allen does what he needs to do to win the game.
Looking forward to watching the fins having an even bigger failure of a season. Not a lot has been expected of the Bills this year with the 64 mil in dead cap....that's 1/4 of the salary cap! They're playing at 75% here
That's true. But to me even though Allen can run he is not a natural runner like Lamar That's why Allen's runs look like a DUI driver trying to park his car in at the next bar
Dan you’re starting to sound like Stephen A like you know everything, these tightends and other receivers are professional to say that he only has one person who can consistently catch is disrespectful to the other guy who is doing his part they didn’t have a bunch of drops
Blk QB loses a game and they actually blame the 2 turnovers on the loss and those who committed them.. jow ICE Borrows loses and they place him on the cross 🤞🏼 when are we going to discuss Desean Watson indicted for ANOTHER s ex crime against women???
It’s exciting to see, but acting like Greens is off base for this take? Wild, buddy runs around like a college QB who has an off season coming. I hope he stays healthy!
is it possible that he doesn't want to show all his cards out? He will give his best performance this Sunday because they are playing Chiefs. Chase and Higgins will be play too. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@lakeozarkrei3767that’s not an excuse, where you go matters. That’s why the Bears, Browns, jets, these historically terribly ran teams that constantly get high draft picks don’t win. Josh has won in spite of not terrible management, but McDermott is not a good coach. He falls apart every single post season when Josh has historically great stats and plays like a superhero but doesn’t have the mistakes he does in the regular season. They just made a factual statement is all. You ever work for a place that is totally mismanaged from the top down? Hard to work and excel in a position like that.
@matthewmorse3307 Josh is a great QB... but the mistake you're making... like most Bills fans is not taking into consideration the intangibles a QB brings to the game. I am confused by you saying Allen has 'historically great' playoff stats... I think that may just be you bringing a little hyperbole to the conversation. Allen's had solid playoff stats... not 'historically great'. He did have a great 2021 playoff run... but that was almost 4 years ago and if not mistaken the very next season he had terrible playoff stats. At some point you gotta stop laying all the blame on everybody but Allen.
@@mikep3813 no Poyer, no Milano, no Diggs. Coleman, Hollins, Shakir vs Hill, Waddle, Arcane (if he plays) on paper Poyer, Holland, Ramsey, Campbell look great
It’s getting ridiculous how much all these reporters talk over each other on these segments, like as if they’re having off-the-air office talk. What happened to professionalism, good conversational flow and cadence? Everybody is just coming across so undisciplined and improperly trained on these sports talk shows now.
Funny how last couple of years Josh Allen keeps getting criticism for his physical style of play and risk of injury yet its the QBs that dont run much or slide as soon as possible that are getting hurt and missing alot of the season
AKA Lamar Jackson and 2 years consecutive outta the playoffs hurt 🤕
Even with QBs that run 90% of the injuries come in the pocket. If you’re taking off running you can see the hit coming.
He gets compared to Cam Newton who’s shoulder is shot, but the hit he took for that injury was in the pocket
I think its more of a longevity thing. Yea when theyre running they can avoid a lot of the surprise hits that cause serious ACUTE injury. Over time, i think we will see that the more athletic quarterbacks maybe sacrifice some of their longevity for explosivity. We will see
Hes@warrior 💯
I’ve never seen so much cuddling for a QB like they do Joe burrow. One SB appearance IN A LOSS just continues to be all they bring up. Lamar missed the two seasons that Joe made all those playoff runs. Lamar was called injury prone but yet Joe being injured alot & it’s crickets. Because he went to a SB & LOSS like the bias is ridiculous. If he gets injured again this year i don’t want to hear the BS anymore & they killed Lamar for losing to the champs but burrow gets a pass for losing to the patriots lol
This entire segment the Burrow part and the Allen part shows how Lamar is held to a different standard than his peers
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Carried by the defense to the Super Bowl too but nobody wants to talk about it.
@@joshuaokparaocha331please don’t go there lol
Ya but we have evidence that Lamar is 🗑️ come playoff time.
Josh doesn't just run, he runs violently.
He’s a running back
@@4ktkaram395pfp says it all lol
No... He also has a brain doesn't eat chicken 🍗 😂@@4ktkaram395
@@bondsgoat25 Kevin Garnett and Darius miles??? 💀
He’s a 6’6” 260lb freight 🚊
Kmart is really tough to watch
better than that bald headed one and Monica Mcnutt they bring out for nba season
The discourse has gotten so contrived its hard to watch this.
Yall got so much to say about hurts and Lamar but continue to give burrow a pass
Hillbilly brotherhood. 😎
@@biznessjones8345 yup, these bigots that cover the nfl are racist
White privilege😂
Brett Favre played with reckless abandon and started more games than anyone. Play to win the game
Josh is Brett 2.0 w/cam newtons size & running ability
Brett was on steroids too its documented and he said it himself
I think the problem with teams like the eagles and Bengals are that they are always rated based on when they went to the superbowl and never on recent woes. It's 3 years later and we're still hearing about well this same team went to the SB so they could do it again. How many teams have gone and never went back? We gotta have honest recent discourse not always trying to give people the legacy protection cuz of a peak 1 year
All plays involve risk and reward. Josh Allen is an absolute unit and he can take care of his body, as he has all these years.
Same ones tell lamar to get done and need to not do it lol
Kimberly is so annoying
Absolute truth.
She really is
Josh Allen hasn’t missed 1 game in his 7 year career bro
DO ON HIS THOMAS SHELBY PEAKY BLINDERS LOOK
Did she just say... "J.A.-17?"... Why does everyone try to copy T.B.-12?.. please don't ever say that again ma'am
TB 12 isn't the first. There's no trademark with that nickname 😂
Tons of athletes in every sport combine their initials with their number for branding. Brady wasn't the first, but maybe the most recognized.
lol j-a 17
Tb12 was literally a copy 😂. Brady fans always think he's God
Why ain't anyone saying Kyle Murray shouldn't have fumbled !?!!!!!!!
They love Josh when he plays like this…until he gets hurt and then everyone is on his head abt playing like this. At least Greeny is consistent. The rest of you lot gotta MAKE UP UR MINDS.
(imo Josh needs save this typa play for the playoffs bc it does put his body at risk. If he needs to be doing all this in week 1, that’s not a good sign for the team-but ig we knew that already)
I think his play is fine. Him and Mahomes have been the only two QBs who have remained healthy. The QBs that don’t run or play scared tend to be the ones that get hurt.
Only thing I have to say about my boy Josh Allen……… MVP!!!!!!!
Man every year I re-sign up to Cultanon. I receive my shirtless Tua poster and copy of King Tua’s version of the bible. I read that book and pray to the shirtless Tua poster that he may turn the corner and beat (or at least be competitive) against good teams. 4 years in a row and shirtless Tua has smirked and bogey’d my dreams. I pray this one is different and will put on my blinders until the season is over. May Tua save our souls.
Don't lie y'all "that's my Michelle" > than Dolphins vs Bills😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
He’s 12-1 ,peterman played the majority of the one game
The nfl gods gifted us Josh post peterman lol AND THE 1 WE LOST AT MIAMI sept 2022 HE HAD US IN POSITION FOR THE FIELDGOAL!!! But the clock ran out
Josh Allen on that Cam Newton trajectory
"Josh Allen on that Cam Newton trajectory"
u r right !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#He put fear in mf ers ❤
Except he would dive on a fumble in ANY game....ESPECIALLY the super bowl
17-1 nfl mvp & Super Bowl… I agree
@@nickytommymancinelli8066 not possibe
Baker, Carr both played better than Allen in Week 1
Yes Greeny, you’re right. Josh shouldn’t do the thing that is unstoppable for other team defenses to defend. That makes total sense! 🙄
Remember cam Newton that's gonna happen to Josh Allen your body can only take so much punishment.
Josh Allen does everything a quarterback is supposed to do, yet he still gets criticized. Meanwhile, Lamont Jackson misses on three easy passes to win a game, and the media makes excuses for him. It's a shame that ESPN always finds a way to pass the blame.
Wym they use Josh Allen as a RB from the 10 yard line they was going against Arizona
If you have to jump over Arizona Defenders Week 1 in a struggle win it’s going be a long season
Yea I can tell you don’t follow media, Lamar is most heavily criticized QB in the NFL then it’s Josh Allen
Lamont Jackson is crazy, and just proves you got some white savior complex because it’s actually reverse. Lamar Jackson is exactly who you described Josh is, came into the league with a shitty offense and still as a rookie and got them to the playoffs after they were out of contention because of Flacco and still has done the same every year with not so great offenses and carrying them. Josh Allen is always talked about being MVP barely any criticism towards him except he can’t beat Mahomes but now he can’t even beat Lamar too. ESPN rides for Josh and has always criticized Lamar
Maybe because Lamar is a far better player
Tua is lousy against teams with a 500 or better record, so have to go with the Bills until Tua proves he can win against better teams.
Orlovsky, 2024: " _You can't succeed with [a 1-dimensional] QB playing in shotgun all day_ '
Detroit Lions: " _Oh my, gosh. Why didn't you tell us during Stafford's [12-year] 45% win rate_ '
Orlovsky: ' _Hush your mouth; you were in on the ruse_ ' 😉😉😉😉
He's a peacock, you gotta let him fly!
Love the reference 😂😂😂😂
Thank you live TH-cam streaming
Dan is such a sucker for Josh Allen and Joe Burrow... I am confident they will never get into February ever...
The thing about the Bengals long term is that Mgmt is cheap, and now that Burrow is being paid, they will not spend the money to surround him with talent.
What about Lamar? He has chase and Higgins, Lamar has little
Josh Allen is already playing like a MVP.
He just won the best quarterback of the first week.
Idk. Baker Mayfield played lights out
Derek Carr outplayed both
Josh Allen is goated!! Continue to make us proud
Go bills
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Imagine thinking the Bills have an actual season ahead of them.
@@kenosabi Bar none, Dolphins fans are the biggest trolls.
Josh Allen will win MVP
💪🏾🔥👌🏾 tweak dat drag walkin down tho . . you dismissed it completely bein overly aggressive
Dan was spot on lmaooo
Orlovsky called the James Cook game!
Josh Allen is a beast!
dave chappell prince reference was great lol
I’m a Bengals and Rams fan…. I love both number 9s. However, GIDDY UP JOSH ALLEN IS MY FAVORITE PLAYER HANDS DOWN!!!! Him jumping over 3 guys Superman into the end zone is why he is my favorite player!!!
She has a point. The Bills are the Bills only when Josh Allen decides to play as if a lost is unacceptable.
They never talk about how many games Josh Allen has missed due to injury... wonder why?
JOSH (all in)ALLEN IS THE BEAST!!!💪🏈
People have a hard time understanding 2 things can be right at the same time… Josh is at his best when making high risk plays but in turn that also is a double edged sword that tends to cut him whenever he gets into a meaningful game , so yes Josh is a good QB and makes high risk plays to help his team and yes those same plays will also dig them deeper into losing the game if the risk fails
These hosts are kind of annoying
As a Dolphan, I've got $100 on every one of their games but don't expect them to win this one. ESPECIALLY after what we saw last week vs Jax. Miami's OLine needs to step up their protection, buy the receivers more time to run their routes - I hope I'm wrong but I doubt it
I LOVE MY BILLS ❤
It’s mind blowing how Dan is employed
Dan was right!❤
Every game is a must win game
You can tell greeny never played sports lol
Lol
Yes he has said that many times
Buddy he's right though Josh Allen is gonna retire like cam with a broken Body and no rings.
@@thewavyprince5691 and possibly no HoF since he really doesn't have any accommodations
@@RyuujinLetum exactly he's needs to take care of your body
Just hoping for a good game. Even though I will be at work. Hoping for high points from Allen
Dolphins 38
Bills 31
Nice, nailed the bills score. Dolphins stunk it up as they always do against a good team. Not sure why you thought they would put up 38
So is Dan saying that Burrow is a product of the system and needs two elite receivers?
Yes... and he is😂
It was second down
They aint having their way dan 😂😂
Answering the caption: YES
Didn't get a chance to see him play last weekend but does Joe struggle with taking snaps under center right now because of the wrist?
Idc. As long as our parlays SLAP
Come on Greeny, every game counts the same in the end. A win is worth a win, whether it's week 1 or week 18. Allen does what he needs to do to win the game.
I'd rather he got hurt in the first game of the season than late in the season, as long as it is not a season ender.
300 yards today 💪 Josh Allen W
Dolphins won’t be the same after this game
I can’t imagine critiquing someone for doing something I can’t do.
It looks like Tua got another scary concussion. That did not look good.
Yep Chris Canty is going to have a field day tomorrow
"don't play football" - greenie
Buffalo owns Miami because McDermott owns McDaniel and Allen is best player on the field most games.
Was Kimberly ever an athlete? Just asking
Lets not forget buffalo won't have Milano too!! They missing they best 2 defensive players!
how is Kmart on this when Kimes is infinitely better
bring back Mina Kimes.
Kim 🚮
Bills will expose miami
They been saying one of these days he'll get hurt for 7 yrs
Looking forward to watching Josh Allen have another failure of a season.
Looking forward to watching the fins having an even bigger failure of a season. Not a lot has been expected of the Bills this year with the 64 mil in dead cap....that's 1/4 of the salary cap! They're playing at 75% here
I'm rooting for the over tonight
Josh Allen keep doing you!!
@2:00 Oh, the irony. 😅
I see why the Bills got the Dolphins number. The Dolphins soft! Look how the Bills just physically outplayed them.
Stop making excuses for Burrows most QBs and athletes play hurt soon as the preseason start.
Bills are will make it a good one but I just feel the dolphins have too many weapons
Josh Allen gets all this negativity for running but Lamar Jackson gets praised for running
That's true. But to me even though Allen can run he is not a natural runner like Lamar
That's why Allen's runs look like a DUI driver trying to park his car in at the next bar
@@JulianFranco-d7o dam then Josh Allen is a great drunk driver if that's the way u see it cause to me he looks like a pro bowl running back
@@billsmafia7804 Think real hard about your silly comment . "Great Drunk Driver"
For real? This is your counter argument?
😂
@@JulianFranco-d7o every time Josh Allen runs u say he looks like a drunk driver all I see is great runs for touchdowns lol
All this context for Joe but when it comes to Lamar yall be crucifying this man. SMH
Wah wah wah
Bring back Mina Kimes. The one in green is hard to listen to
more Burrow excuses
Greeny is a jets fan..... hahahaha they're always gonna suck!
can yall just release the script and take the guess work out of it
Dan you’re starting to sound like Stephen A like you know everything, these tightends and other receivers are professional to say that he only has one person who can consistently catch is disrespectful to the other guy who is doing his part they didn’t have a bunch of drops
Blk QB loses a game and they actually blame the 2 turnovers on the loss and those who committed them.. jow ICE Borrows loses and they place him on the cross 🤞🏼 when are we going to discuss Desean Watson indicted for ANOTHER s ex crime against women???
Deseaun has done nothing wrong next
Its the blonde hair what was he thinking
It’s exciting to see, but acting like Greens is off base for this take? Wild, buddy runs around like a college QB who has an off season coming. I hope he stays healthy!
Maybe the Miami-Dade police will arrest him. Wait, then again, nah....
what a scummy thing to say someone is going to get hurt
Greeney worry about the Jets and Aaron Rodgers' ankles.. FOH... not everybody's comfortable giving 70% effort like ol A-rod
Chiefs want this game bad too.
is it possible that he doesn't want to show all his cards out? He will give his best performance this Sunday because they are playing Chiefs. Chase and Higgins will be play too. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Give Allen the Ravens, 49ers or Chiefs level of management and see what he does.
I don’t see Mahomes and Lamar going crazy like that.
Gotta stop with the excuses man...
HED BE NASTY W/THE NINERS!!!
@@lakeozarkrei3767that’s not an excuse, where you go matters. That’s why the Bears, Browns, jets, these historically terribly ran teams that constantly get high draft picks don’t win. Josh has won in spite of not terrible management, but McDermott is not a good coach. He falls apart every single post season when Josh has historically great stats and plays like a superhero but doesn’t have the mistakes he does in the regular season. They just made a factual statement is all. You ever work for a place that is totally mismanaged from the top down? Hard to work and excel in a position like that.
@matthewmorse3307 Josh is a great QB... but the mistake you're making... like most Bills fans is not taking into consideration the intangibles a QB brings to the game.
I am confused by you saying Allen has 'historically great' playoff stats... I think that may just be you bringing a little hyperbole to the conversation. Allen's had solid playoff stats... not 'historically great'. He did have a great 2021 playoff run... but that was almost 4 years ago and if not mistaken the very next season he had terrible playoff stats.
At some point you gotta stop laying all the blame on everybody but Allen.
I got Miami winning this Buffalo defense is not the same
Missing 2 all pros due to injury. It could be the difference.
@@mikep3813 no Poyer, no Milano, no Diggs. Coleman, Hollins, Shakir vs Hill, Waddle, Arcane (if he plays) on paper Poyer, Holland, Ramsey, Campbell look great
Bengals should hand off to zack moss more, he's the real deal
Hes not coming from a bills fan
It’s getting ridiculous how much all these reporters talk over each other on these segments, like as if they’re having off-the-air office talk.
What happened to professionalism, good conversational flow and cadence? Everybody is just coming across so undisciplined and improperly trained on these sports talk shows now.
debate shows been trash since Max left First Take.
TYREEK THUG HILL SHOULD NOT BE PLAYING…i hope the Bills whip Miami’s butts!
Found the troll!😂
Wheres my Michelle
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They are not going to score a lot of point in the rain