I was upset they didn't give any mention to the Swan Knights of Dol Amroth, who were holding Mordor's forces at bay for a while, and joined in the battle of the pellenor. Such a renown order of knights deserves screen time.
@@NOIDEAIWILLJUSTUSEHAILEYIGUESS They were originally filmed and Imrahil was cast and can be seen, but they never tell you who he is. They fealt there was no time to introduce another character.
Although rhun has a persian vibe imo. A similar empire like gondor, just with a political system fully corrupt with sauron; similar to saurons attempt on denethor.
How are you doing today, Yoystan? 😉 Happy Easter man!!! I might have another topic it could be interesting to make a video for your next video. Something like the region spotlight on Erébor, one of the dwarven kingdoms of Middle-Earth.
Excuse me but Minas Ithil was razed to the ground by Aragorn’s order. Even after downfall of Sauron, evil that dwelled in that Fortress still remained so they destroyed it.
@@SantomPh it became minas ithil again after Fall of Sauron. But Aragorn did have it deconstructed because of the evil that had held sway there for so long.
@@donpula6349 No, the original poster was correct. The city was raised and it is not know if it was ever rebuilt... if it was then it would be much further in the future.
@@Codydl14 Where does it say that? Pretty sure it was completely destroyed and there was just a comment made by Aragorn that it might be livable again at some point but not for a long time. Where did you get that is was rebuilt?
@@lancebloke I see that I Mistook your Comment, I was talking about how it was Restored in the 2nd age after Sauron was defeated by the Last Alliance, no other News is known about the city, we can only guess what happened to the city after it was deconstructed
Gondor held the line of good through the third age. They had their own problems, the line of Kings dis appearing and the ruling stewards beginning. Forgetting much of their Numenorean past but still they held the line. "By the blood of our people, are your lands kept safe!." cries Boromir in the FOTR film. So very true. Gondor is old, seen tragedy, loses some belief. But they still hold the line... I sense a theme here! They are England in 1940 battered, bruised and bombed, but still they hold the line! Stand Men of the West!! Thanks for the video!!
Love this concept! I wish we were able to see Dol Amroth in the movie. I think that's such an interesting place, with elvish influence and probably handsome princes 😅
I'm new here and I've watched 12 of your videos and there GREAT! My favourite is the theory "what if Aaragorn had taken the ring" because it's a good guy ending (to an extent) and ring doesn't have to be destroyed. By the way keep up the great work.
Fascinating, as always. I really like your videos and look forward to each new one. What's better than reading about all those wonderful places or hearing about them in a well done video? Going to many of them and seeing them for myself, of course! I've been playing Lord of the RIngs Online (LotRO) for over 12 years now and Middle Earth is my home until they pull the plug on the last server. It's gone through many changes in those 12 years, but it's still the best game with the Middle Earth theme ever. Come join me!
Gondor is a great place to start a geography series...I'd be interested to see one on Rohan's territory, and on the network of third-age Dwarven settlements. Love this channel, thanks for being here!
Keep up the good work! You're my favorite TH-camr! The Edain and their descendants are my favorite people of Tolkien's legendarium. You should make a video about the reunited Kingdom of Arnor and Gondor. Do you think the reunited Kingdom will participate in Dagor Dagorath?
christian miranda Thank you so much for the support, it means the world to me! :) I would say that if the Reunited Kingdom survived until Dagor Dagorath, it would be possible for the men of the kingdom to participate in the battle! Or, if such folk were resurrected, it is also possible for them to fight in the final battle!
Gondor is my favourite faction, although I have took my time getting to this conclusion. As far as the fiefdoms go though, I can’t decide as there are lots of good ones. I do wish the movie didn’t make the Gondorian soldiers so weak in combat, especially since they were mostly wearing plate armour!!! It would have been good to see the fiefdoms represented too.
Yes Gondor is a great place especially osgilath,osgilath was a beautiful city one time thriving, singing, trade bustling etc but now in ruins , but there is very creative way to rebuild osgilath , after the battle of pennalor fields the tens of thousands of orcs dead bodies ready to fertilize the fields to be able to grow abundance of crops , and with tons and tons of iron from the orcs, shield, armor, swords and helmet etc leaving Gondor with lots of iron to exploit and some Corsair ships free for the taking , just melt down the iron to make chisels, hammers tools etc, plows for farming the fields and around it and build skyscraper size building with the iron with stone and glass windows of course, and build a railroad around osgilath for civilians to move around or goods around city and osgilath can be living in a booming era , population growth cuz of crops and more living space for people to live in, rebuilding provides lots of jobs etc mostly farming, traders , construction workers and sailors etc and osgilath would be living in a modern like city lol
Someone on Twitter said that Game of Thrones is a cheap porn parody of the Lord of the Rings, and to be honest it's one of the truest statements I have read recently.
@@fleaship6134 (Response to both comments, too lazy to write individual comments) In defense of Game of Thrones (and in some ways I agree with you), it really is so hard to compete against the LOTR... Lets be honest in saying LOTR dominates and always will dominate the Fantasy genre. It's held at the highest standards and it's always the go to when debating someone who says Fantasy is only for little kids. Tbh I feel like a lot of the dialogue is cheesy but people buy into it because the production quality is top notch and the women are smoking hot. The battle scenes are immense, they really get me nervous and anxious because you never know who's gonna die (yeah I spoiled a lot of the show by watching battle scenes and important deaths lol, including our own Boromir). The Amazon series is really going to have to be special in order to compete with GoT. The timing has to be PERFECT, the Game of Thrones hype isn't going anywhere.
Hey so I never comment on videos, let alone to interact with the creator of the video; but I would love to see a video about the different factions of the orcs. I think it should touch on the history of how the orcs were created, significant known events in orc-centric history and also what happened after the fall of Sauron in the 3rd Age. Thank you for the videos, I love watching them! :)
Love the use of LOTRO images on your videos...miss playing it so much, but life hasn't allowed me time lately. It's kind of special to see the places I've wandered in the videos.
Thanks for Gondor's Settlements Mellon!!! In PJ movies they look very royal like...It is beautiful!!! Thanks for the video Until Elves vs Dwarves next Week...Marion Baggins Out!!! P.s I just read about a Elf/Dwarf counting game!!!
I'm glad that the City of Gondor that's here isn't that vertical nightmare of the movies. Can you imagine going up a level of that place? I hope they had magic escalators. I'm sure the filmmakers were trying to make it imposing, but I like this one much better.
You should do a video on the mountains, hills, and rock formations of Middle Earth: Gundabad, Caradhras, Mindolin, Orodruin Carrock, Erech, Emyn Arnen, Emyn Muil, The Glittering Caves, Amon Sul, Amon Lanc, Amon Hen, etc.
Hi dude, awesome vid, thanks. Its so good to know that there is still a large community of Tolkien fans out there. I wanted to ask if you had to pick a favourite character then who would it be.
Have you done an episode on the Ent-wives and their fate? Could some of them have survived in the old forest, where Merry had seen a walking tree once?
After doing some digging on Google, I found out that some guy's Dad made a fan-made map of middle-earth and met with Tolkien and showed it to him. Tolkien was impressed with the map and asked him if he had any questions for him. The guy asked him what happened with the entwives.... Tolkien responded by circling a location on the fan-made map and wrote, HERE MAY BE ENTWIVES. I forget what the location was but it seems like the ent wives didn't die.
@@leonievw2466 After the lord of the rings was there any mention of the Entwives? Pip Willis, Scullion at the Green Dragon, Bywater (1901-present) Updated May 31, 2018 My father went to visit JRRT in 1971 to show him a map of ‘Part of Middle Earth’ my father had drawn, but far more embellished than the ones previously seen or published. The map was about a square yard in size and around the border were miniature paintings of various places, things etc that appeared in the Lord of the Rings. The map now hangs on my father’s living room wall. It was and is a wonderful map and I always gaze at it when I visit (I live in Sydney, my father in Sussex). I can remember my two favourite drawings, the Hornberg and Orthanc. JRRT had a huge fan base at that time and refused most requests to visit. So my father was thrilled to have had his request for a meeting accepted, ostensibly about the map, a copy of which had been sent to the great man! (My brothers and I clamoured to be taken too, but were tersely denied, because my father had spent the previous year slowly reading the Lord of the Rings, a few pages at a time, as an incentive for bed.) Anyway, at the meeting, my father asked about the Entwives and Tolkien, taking a pencil, marked on the map ‘Here be the Entwives’, just beyond the northern border of the North Farthing, half way to Fornost. Later Dad inked over the pencil marks, keeping the hand-writing style. And I didn’t think much more about it, until I happened to mention the Map to one of my older brothers, who recalled the above anecdote and I realised how significant it may become - or not! (I was the youngest of my brothers and only 5 years old in 1970 and used to sneak in to listen to Dad read Lord of the Rings to my older siblings. I didn’t really understand what was going on and I was only tolerated on the condition of silence and it was generally pretended I wasn’t there! But, these are some of my greatest and fondest and thrilling memories, of my father’s deep welsh lilt reading of things such as ‘The Fog on the Barrow Downs’! He even looks like Gandalf!) Edit.21st May 2017. 10 p.m. AST So, I’ve just put down the phone to my father, from our weekly call. Firstly the good news. Two bits. One, all this did happen and Dad confirmed it. Second, he will try and take a photo on his iphone of the map in general and Tolkien’s reference specifically, he’s 85. The actual words were in fact ‘Here may be the Entwives.’ [My italics] But the bad news, for which of course I take full responsibility and apologise to all, is it is not where I said it was above, but in fact… on the east bank a southern bow of the Carnen River, flowing into the Sea of Rhun. Fully apologise, I should have checked my sources before publishing! (When will I learn!) Looks like I was misled by Hal and Ted Sandyman was right - blast him! Edit 22nd May 2017 3 p.m. AST. So below is a very small part of the map. My father inked over JT’s pencil (knowing my father’s hand-writing as I do, I think he went a bit heavy, the only bit which is definitely not his style is the ‘y’ from ‘may’). My father has yet to send a picture of the whole map as apparently the reflection from the glass is too much, so he will have to take the map down and the glass off etc. I know it sounds crazy, but my father did the map in black ink from a rotring pen and then coloured in with felt tip pens! Where he made mistakes he overlaid with new bits of paper and re-drew. It was a pretty big deal in the early ‘70’s! I have to apologise again for my first edit where I wrote ‘East bank’, but at least I have an excuse, as I’m pretty sure that’s what I was told! 31st May 2018. So, a year later… here’s the map In its frame Remember, its all hand drawn, mostly about 1970-71, with rotring pens and felt-tips. N.E. corner (the Entwives notation to the left of large red ‘Rhun’). S.E. corner S.W. corner N.W. corner Nice one Dad! (And thanks to all who upvoted.) 22.1k views · View Upvoters · View Sharers Upvote · 745 Share
Pelargir was Second City of Gondor, home base of its Navy, and the oldest Numenorean settlement in the kingdom, as previously mentioned being a first generation Numenorean colony and eventually the chief haven of the evacuating Faithful who would go on to found Gondor itself. The city was so strategically important that, during the Civil War, Castamir proposed the capital be moved to Pelargir from Osgiliath.
Minas Morgul and also entire valley, Imlad Morgul, the Valley of Living Death and it's polluted, evil enchanted river Morguilduin, it's fields of "deadly white flowers" was so tainted by dark power that it remained uninhabitable for some time yet in Fourth Age. Aragorn said: "And then Beregond, perceiving the mercy and justice of the King, was glad, and kneeling kissed his hand, and departed in joy and content. And Aragorn gave to Faramir Ithilien to be his princedom, and bade him dwell in the hills of Emyn Arnen within sight of the City. ‘For,’ said he, ‘Minas Ithil in Morgul Vale shall be utterly destroyed, and though it may in time to come be made clean, no man may dwell there for many long years.’" Emyn Arnwen would be another settlement, in fact very ancient one, as Emyn Arnen was place of origin of the House of Stewards, Hurin of Emyn Arnen was the first steward of that bloodline, long before Stewardship was hereditary or the Stewards become Ruling Stewards, governing the kingdom in absence of the king. So most likely at the time of Lotr some very ancient ruins would be out there on those hills and with Faramir receiving this seat of his bloodline would raise a great city out there. As far as elven heritage of Prince o Dol Amroth, it's canon alright, in Lotr Return of the King Legolas himself notes that Imrahil has elven blood in him. I always liked to know more about Dol Amroth, and curiously enough some tiny details were given about it in...The Adventures of Tom Bombadil, more precisely the poem Man in the Moon Came Down too Soon. We learn there of the feature of that port city Tirith Aear, Seaward Tower, other than that we know the city lies on the peninsula at Cobas Haven, in Bay of Belfalas, there is reference to Prince's Imrahil's castle by the sea and that's it hehe :), Dol Amroth seems incredibly fascinating though. Pelargir, ahh that would be probably one of the most amazing cities, the first and oldest settlement in the region, an old numenorean colony. It's a funny hing but Tolkien in a letter actually compares the city to...Venice!! "Venice seemed incredibly, elvishly lovely - to me like a dream of Old Gondor, or Pelargir of the Númenorean Ships, before the return of the Shadow.” And a sort of confirmation of that Venice-like properties can be seen in this bit heheh: "...and the house that Tarannon built below Pelargir "upon arches whose feet stood deep in the wide waters of Ethir Anduin;" :). We can also say that Harond, the docks and harbor of Minas Tirith(Anor) upon Anduin by the wall of Rammas Echor could be regarded as separate settlement (we can imagine it was like Ostia was to Rome in ancient times). There were certainly lesser towns and loads of villages in between the named settlements, not even counting all the outposts and military bases and strongholds (aside from mentioned Amon Hen and Amon Lhaw there were other strongholds and forts along Anduin on the shores of Calenardhon along with entire infrastructure like roads, bridges and portage ways, Calenardhon was one of the main provinces at the time of Gondor's foundation), also there were definitely unnamed settlements in Anfalas, Pinnath Gelin, Lamedon and Morthond Vale and Ringlo Vale that belonged to the local lords (though the lord of Ringlo Vale may resided in Ethring for all we know, we learn that in Lotr this unnamed lord's son was Dervorin), there were apparently also outposts and some coast-guard and beacon-hills on Andrast cape). Ithilien also must have been dotted wiht many ruins (in fact we see some of the ruins when Frodo and Sam venture there, it was probably full of estates and mansions with vineyards and gardens something like Tuscany of Middle-earth). And of course regions like Ethir Anduin, Tolfalas isle, Harondor the South Gondor, all must have (or had once) many settlements, towns and small cities and villages along with scattered farms and homesteads like the rich townlands of Pelennor Fields where many folk lived and had houses and buildings of all sorts.
The one complaint that I have about both the books and the movies is that, aside from the Shire, there is very little depiction or mention of the infrastructure of the major human factions, such as where are all the farms, the livestock? Surely they must be there. Other than Edoras, Minas Tirith and Helm's Deep, it seems every where else is empty.
Very nice video. You described the Cities of Gondor very well. Personally I believe that Tarnost is a city, as it includes the -OST element which means city or fortress in Sindarin. You also forgot some very obscure by canonical settlements in the Pinnath Gelin. We know only the names of two, Agar and Udul, which were villages of a people part of related to the Men of the Mountains in the Second Age, before the lands were colonized by the Númenoreans.
Tharbad was a city of Arnor, and the capital of the successor kingdom of Cardolan. It was built in the Second Age by Tar-Aldarion as an inland port. in the TA 1430s', Gondor provided a stabilizing influence and stationed a large embassy and guard force to aid their sister Dunedain, but it was not a city built or controlled by Gondor
I've been playing a lot of dark souls games lately and it's obviously it's taken a lot of inspiration from Gondor and Arnor. Only that its a dying world in decay and a corruption has set in. But i get the impression that in its hey day it was a beautiful civilisation very similar to Numenor in its prime.
Could you do a video on how the middle Earth calender system works? Like what is an age exactly? How long is an age? Why does the calendar date restart after each age? 🙏
Very interesting. On a related theme I'd love to hear a bit more about Numenorean settlements elsewhere - further down the coast of Middle-Earth, or maybe even on the other continents?
Legolas also confirms that Imrahil is a man with "elven-blood in his veins" the moment he meets the Prince. As his sister was Faramir and Boromir'a mother they too would have had this air about them (Boromir didn't).
Hi MOTW. A word on your pronunciation of Tolkien's surname. He repudiated its derivation from Slavic "tolk", an interpreter, preferring the (to my mind) fanciful one from German "tollkuehn", foolhardy. Yet there are many Tolkins but few Tolkiens
The fortresses surrounding Morder including Minas Morgul were all completely destroyed after the final defeat of Sauron to prevent their use by the enemies of Gondor. They were not restored except maybe in fan fiction.
Not to prevent their use (you made this up). Minas Ithil was to be torn down and the valley cleansed of the foul water and ambiance but Aragorn forbade people to live there as it was too evil still. The other fortresses like Cirith Ungol , the Towers of the Teeth and the Black Gate might just remain or be abandoned, as there are no more enemies who could use them like Mordor did
For much that I love Tolkien's work when it comes to settlements and populations makes very little sense... eastern Gondor seems to be more defined because the action takes a great deal of it in those territories but as soon your start moving to west Gondor it's territories become fuzzy and unknown... I always have wonder how do people live in the vast wilderness of Middle-Earth? We see only a handful of settlements written in the maps but are those the only ones? do people live in small hamlets and homesteads rather than in unknown cities or towns? are there other halls (smaller) than that of Medhusel? Is like the whole Eriador inconsistency, in thousands of years after the fall of Arnor no other peoples have emerged to regain the lands, even Bree has remain a small Village for what? 1200 years? Entire civilisations have risen, fall, rise again and then forgotten in our world for that span of time.
Dol Amroth is a city that overlooks the fiefdom of Belfalas. It existed before Gondor and became part of Gondor, often intermarrying with the Kings and Ruling Stewards. The Prince is a member of the royal court though not a royal himself.
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Love gondor. I always was bummed that the movies didnt show any of the reinforcements arriving from Gondor's other regions.
Same. All we see of them is getting run over time and time again
I was upset they didn't give any mention to the Swan Knights of Dol Amroth, who were holding Mordor's forces at bay for a while, and joined in the battle of the pellenor. Such a renown order of knights deserves screen time.
@@NOIDEAIWILLJUSTUSEHAILEYIGUESS They were originally filmed and Imrahil was cast and can be seen, but they never tell you who he is. They fealt there was no time to introduce another character.
The movies didn't do Gondor justice. Not even close.
@Psycho Healer It does portray a kingdom in decline, which Gondor very much was at the time.
A settlements of Mordor video would be really neat. As always love your videos.
This City of osgiliath
Has been reclaimed
*FOR GONDOR*
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nodinitiative pretty sure catholic Tolkien wouldn’t have that!
Good speech, nice and short
@@nodinitiative No condoms. We need to replace all those gondorians killed by the orcs!
Sex!. FOR GONDOOORRRR
@@NastyCupid leave room for drinking
it's so crazy! I never knew the realm of Gondor was so vast and huge. Much of middle earth, it seems!
I'm even wearing my white tree of gondor shirt right now :) I love all these videos!!!
Yeah these videos are all amazing.
In place of a dark lord you would have a queen!! ❤️
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As soon as i hear the fabled "greetings" its a uncontrollable amount of nostalgia. Love the videos keep up the amazing work.
Would like to know more about Rhûn in this format.
If I could't agree more
There is very little information about rhun.
Nothing beyond what little was said in the narrative. That is why Rhûn is empty on the map.
Although rhun has a persian vibe imo. A similar empire like gondor, just with a political system fully corrupt with sauron; similar to saurons attempt on denethor.
Tolkien never finished his legendarium, Rhun is one of many part of his unfinished legendarium..
How are you doing today, Yoystan? 😉 Happy Easter man!!! I might have another topic it could be interesting to make a video for your next video. Something like the region spotlight on Erébor, one of the dwarven kingdoms of Middle-Earth.
Can’t wait to learn something new!
Ahhh your videos brighten up my Sunday’s! I’m so excited to watch this✨✨
Awesome video! But I would love to see more about the settlements of Arnor.
The beauty of these pictures is breathtaking...
All of the info in these videos makes re-watching the trilogy so much better!!
Excellent!!! Very much looking forward to more like these covering the various regions of Middle Earth, Cheers
Oohh I’ve really been getting into T.A. recently so I know I’m gonna love this video 🧚🏿♂️
Excuse me but Minas Ithil was razed to the ground by Aragorn’s order. Even after downfall of Sauron, evil that dwelled in that Fortress still remained so they destroyed it.
You mean Morgul.
@@SantomPh it became minas ithil again after Fall of Sauron. But Aragorn did have it deconstructed because of the evil that had held sway there for so long.
@@donpula6349 No, the original poster was correct. The city was raised and it is not know if it was ever rebuilt... if it was then it would be much further in the future.
@@Codydl14 Where does it say that? Pretty sure it was completely destroyed and there was just a comment made by Aragorn that it might be livable again at some point but not for a long time.
Where did you get that is was rebuilt?
@@lancebloke I see that I Mistook your Comment, I was talking about how it was Restored in the 2nd age after Sauron was defeated by the Last Alliance, no other News is known about the city, we can only guess what happened to the city after it was deconstructed
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Gondor held the line of good through the third age. They had their own problems, the line of Kings dis appearing and the ruling stewards beginning. Forgetting much of their Numenorean past but still they held the line. "By the blood of our people, are your lands kept safe!." cries Boromir in the FOTR film. So very true. Gondor is old, seen tragedy, loses some belief. But they still hold the line... I sense a theme here! They are England in 1940 battered, bruised and bombed, but still they hold the line! Stand Men of the West!! Thanks for the video!!
Love this concept! I wish we were able to see Dol Amroth in the movie.
I think that's such an interesting place, with elvish influence and probably handsome princes 😅
Not only do your videos give me tons of info but you tell it as if its a story and you bring a sense of honor and beauty to Tolkiens works.
Enchanting !!! All !!!the images are also marvellous ! ❤️
I'm new here and I've watched 12 of your videos and there GREAT!
My favourite is the theory "what if Aaragorn had taken the ring" because it's a good guy ending (to an extent) and ring doesn't have to be destroyed.
By the way keep up the great work.
Thank you for doing a video on the holiday good sir
Fascinating, as always. I really like your videos and look forward to each new one. What's better than reading about all those wonderful places or hearing about them in a well done video? Going to many of them and seeing them for myself, of course! I've been playing Lord of the RIngs Online (LotRO) for over 12 years now and Middle Earth is my home until they pull the plug on the last server. It's gone through many changes in those 12 years, but it's still the best game with the Middle Earth theme ever. Come join me!
Gondor is a great place to start a geography series...I'd be interested to see one on Rohan's territory, and on the network of third-age Dwarven settlements. Love this channel, thanks for being here!
Keep up the good work! You're my favorite TH-camr!
The Edain and their descendants are my favorite people of Tolkien's legendarium.
You should make a video about the reunited Kingdom of Arnor and Gondor.
Do you think the reunited Kingdom will participate in Dagor Dagorath?
christian miranda Thank you so much for the support, it means the world to me! :)
I would say that if the Reunited Kingdom survived until Dagor Dagorath, it would be possible for the men of the kingdom to participate in the battle! Or, if such folk were resurrected, it is also possible for them to fight in the final battle!
Gondor is my favourite faction, although I have took my time getting to this conclusion. As far as the fiefdoms go though, I can’t decide as there are lots of good ones. I do wish the movie didn’t make the Gondorian soldiers so weak in combat, especially since they were mostly wearing plate armour!!! It would have been good to see the fiefdoms represented too.
I think Gondor is the greatest kingdom in Middle Earth.
Yes Gondor is my favourite kingdom in middle earth
You think, Sherlock?
Yes Gondor is a great place especially osgilath,osgilath was a beautiful city one time thriving, singing, trade bustling etc but now in ruins , but there is very creative way to rebuild osgilath , after the battle of pennalor fields the tens of thousands of orcs dead bodies ready to fertilize the fields to be able to grow abundance of crops , and with tons and tons of iron from the orcs, shield, armor, swords and helmet etc leaving Gondor with lots of iron to exploit and some Corsair ships free for the taking , just melt down the iron to make chisels, hammers tools etc, plows for farming the fields and around it and build skyscraper size building with the iron with stone and glass windows of course, and build a railroad around osgilath for civilians to move around or goods around city and osgilath can be living in a booming era , population growth cuz of crops and more living space for people to live in, rebuilding provides lots of jobs etc mostly farming, traders , construction workers and sailors etc and osgilath would be living in a modern like city lol
Everyone is watching Game of Thrones tonight and I don't watch it 😭
We really need the LOTR Amazon series to come out already lol
Someone on Twitter said that Game of Thrones is a cheap porn parody of the Lord of the Rings, and to be honest it's one of the truest statements I have read recently.
tbh I'm a big GoT fan.. but I actually read somewhere that they're going to do 2nd age Numenor for that Amazon series 😍
@@fleaship6134 (Response to both comments, too lazy to write individual comments) In defense of Game of Thrones (and in some ways I agree with you), it really is so hard to compete against the LOTR... Lets be honest in saying LOTR dominates and always will dominate the Fantasy genre. It's held at the highest standards and it's always the go to when debating someone who says Fantasy is only for little kids. Tbh I feel like a lot of the dialogue is cheesy but people buy into it because the production quality is top notch and the women are smoking hot. The battle scenes are immense, they really get me nervous and anxious because you never know who's gonna die (yeah I spoiled a lot of the show by watching battle scenes and important deaths lol, including our own Boromir). The Amazon series is really going to have to be special in order to compete with GoT. The timing has to be PERFECT, the Game of Thrones hype isn't going anywhere.
@@MobBarley 2nd Age is official btw
I don't watch GoT and I never will watch it because from what I have heard it is seedy and ridiculous. LotR will be my one true love.
Hey so I never comment on videos, let alone to interact with the creator of the video; but I would love to see a video about the different factions of the orcs. I think it should touch on the history of how the orcs were created, significant known events in orc-centric history and also what happened after the fall of Sauron in the 3rd Age. Thank you for the videos, I love watching them! :)
I find it very relaxing listening to these videos. Keep up the good work!
Men of the West = Instant clicking the LIKE button! Videos like this are why!
Love the use of LOTRO images on your videos...miss playing it so much, but life hasn't allowed me time lately. It's kind of special to see the places I've wandered in the videos.
Great Video Yoystan and you are the great youtuber that lores about Middle Earth!
I always enjoy your vids.
Since I love Third age total war and the divide and conquer submod, this is great!
Thanks for Gondor's Settlements Mellon!!!
In PJ movies they look very royal like...It is beautiful!!!
Thanks for the video Until Elves vs Dwarves next Week...Marion Baggins Out!!!
P.s I just read about a Elf/Dwarf counting game!!!
just got my geekorism aha nice video man
The kingdom of Gondor, for Gondor!!! And great video Men of the West
I loved this video and it shows how him for has grown and is amazing and I can't wait to see what video you make next and this is was a great video!
Epic Character History of Finrod Felagund? ..love him to bits~ ♥
I'm glad that the City of Gondor that's here isn't that vertical nightmare of the movies. Can you imagine going up a level of that place? I hope they had magic escalators. I'm sure the filmmakers were trying to make it imposing, but I like this one much better.
How did this video get 2 thumbs down? This Channel is awesome.Always good content. As always great job!!!!
Because of trolls, who are just as dangerous here today as they were in Middle Earth.
A settlements of the Dwarves video would be really neat. As always love your videos.
You should do a video on the mountains, hills, and rock formations of Middle Earth: Gundabad, Caradhras, Mindolin, Orodruin Carrock, Erech, Emyn Arnen, Emyn Muil, The Glittering Caves, Amon Sul, Amon Lanc, Amon Hen, etc.
That is a good idea. Props.
Always well written and well met
Hi dude, awesome vid, thanks. Its so good to know that there is still a large community of Tolkien fans out there. I wanted to ask if you had to pick a favourite character then who would it be.
Have you done an episode on the Ent-wives and their fate? Could some of them have survived in the old forest, where Merry had seen a walking tree once?
After doing some digging on Google, I found out that some guy's Dad made a fan-made map of middle-earth and met with Tolkien and showed it to him.
Tolkien was impressed with the map and asked him if he had any questions for him.
The guy asked him what happened with the entwives....
Tolkien responded by circling a location on the fan-made map and wrote, HERE MAY BE ENTWIVES.
I forget what the location was but it seems like the ent wives didn't die.
@@unlimitedperseverance1706 ohhh to bad you can't remember, I would love to know that
@@leonievw2466 East bank a southern bow of carnen river flowing into the sea of the Rhun.
@@unlimitedperseverance1706 thanks!
@@leonievw2466 After the lord of the rings was there any mention of the Entwives?
Pip Willis, Scullion at the Green Dragon, Bywater (1901-present)
Updated May 31, 2018
My father went to visit JRRT in 1971 to show him a map of ‘Part of Middle Earth’ my father had drawn, but far more embellished than the ones previously seen or published. The map was about a square yard in size and around the border were miniature paintings of various places, things etc that appeared in the Lord of the Rings. The map now hangs on my father’s living room wall. It was and is a wonderful map and I always gaze at it when I visit (I live in Sydney, my father in Sussex). I can remember my two favourite drawings, the Hornberg and Orthanc. JRRT had a huge fan base at that time and refused most requests to visit. So my father was thrilled to have had his request for a meeting accepted, ostensibly about the map, a copy of which had been sent to the great man! (My brothers and I clamoured to be taken too, but were tersely denied, because my father had spent the previous year slowly reading the Lord of the Rings, a few pages at a time, as an incentive for bed.)
Anyway, at the meeting, my father asked about the Entwives and Tolkien, taking a pencil, marked on the map ‘Here be the Entwives’, just beyond the northern border of the North Farthing, half way to Fornost.
Later Dad inked over the pencil marks, keeping the hand-writing style. And I didn’t think much more about it, until I happened to mention the Map to one of my older brothers, who recalled the above anecdote and I realised how significant it may become - or not!
(I was the youngest of my brothers and only 5 years old in 1970 and used to sneak in to listen to Dad read Lord of the Rings to my older siblings. I didn’t really understand what was going on and I was only tolerated on the condition of silence and it was generally pretended I wasn’t there! But, these are some of my greatest and fondest and thrilling memories, of my father’s deep welsh lilt reading of things such as ‘The Fog on the Barrow Downs’! He even looks like Gandalf!)
Edit.21st May 2017. 10 p.m. AST So, I’ve just put down the phone to my father, from our weekly call. Firstly the good news. Two bits. One, all this did happen and Dad confirmed it. Second, he will try and take a photo on his iphone of the map in general and Tolkien’s reference specifically, he’s 85. The actual words were in fact ‘Here may be the Entwives.’ [My italics] But the bad news, for which of course I take full responsibility and apologise to all, is it is not where I said it was above, but in fact… on the east bank a southern bow of the Carnen River, flowing into the Sea of Rhun. Fully apologise, I should have checked my sources before publishing! (When will I learn!)
Looks like I was misled by Hal and Ted Sandyman was right - blast him!
Edit 22nd May 2017 3 p.m. AST. So below is a very small part of the map. My father inked over JT’s pencil (knowing my father’s hand-writing as I do, I think he went a bit heavy, the only bit which is definitely not his style is the ‘y’ from ‘may’). My father has yet to send a picture of the whole map as apparently the reflection from the glass is too much, so he will have to take the map down and the glass off etc. I know it sounds crazy, but my father did the map in black ink from a rotring pen and then coloured in with felt tip pens! Where he made mistakes he overlaid with new bits of paper and re-drew. It was a pretty big deal in the early ‘70’s! I have to apologise again for my first edit where I wrote ‘East bank’, but at least I have an excuse, as I’m pretty sure that’s what I was told!
31st May 2018. So, a year later… here’s the map
In its frame
Remember, its all hand drawn, mostly about 1970-71, with rotring pens and felt-tips.
N.E. corner (the Entwives notation to the left of large red ‘Rhun’).
S.E. corner
S.W. corner
N.W. corner
Nice one Dad! (And thanks to all who upvoted.)
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Awesome video! Definitely do more like this
Happy Easter Yoysten ( I hope I am pronouncing your name right) I wish you a great week to come and I will look forward to the video next week.
Next Settlement dale and rohan
Who's settlin' in for some good TH-cam.👉🤓👈 this guy.
It works better in person. /shrug
I like that you used the ICE Middle Earth RPG map of Tharbad.
Pelargir was Second City of Gondor, home base of its Navy, and the oldest Numenorean settlement in the kingdom, as previously mentioned being a first generation Numenorean colony and eventually the chief haven of the evacuating Faithful who would go on to found Gondor itself. The city was so strategically important that, during the Civil War, Castamir proposed the capital be moved to Pelargir from Osgiliath.
This was largely because most of the navy took his side in the Kin-strife, so it made sense to base himself closer to the center of his power.
Great video brother!
YESSSSSS. love these
Thank you
Minas Morgul and also entire valley, Imlad Morgul, the Valley of Living Death and it's polluted, evil enchanted river Morguilduin, it's fields of "deadly white flowers" was so tainted by dark power that it remained uninhabitable for some time yet in Fourth Age. Aragorn said:
"And then Beregond, perceiving the mercy and justice of the King, was glad, and kneeling kissed his hand, and departed in joy and content. And Aragorn gave to Faramir Ithilien to be his princedom, and bade him dwell in the hills of Emyn Arnen within sight of the City.
‘For,’ said he, ‘Minas Ithil in Morgul Vale shall be utterly destroyed, and though it may in time to come be made clean, no man may dwell there for many long years.’"
Emyn Arnwen would be another settlement, in fact very ancient one, as Emyn Arnen was place of origin of the House of Stewards, Hurin of Emyn Arnen was the first steward of that bloodline, long before Stewardship was hereditary or the Stewards become Ruling Stewards, governing the kingdom in absence of the king. So most likely at the time of Lotr some very ancient ruins would be out there on those hills and with Faramir receiving this seat of his bloodline would raise a great city out there.
As far as elven heritage of Prince o Dol Amroth, it's canon alright, in Lotr Return of the King Legolas himself notes that Imrahil has elven blood in him. I always liked to know more about Dol Amroth, and curiously enough some tiny details were given about it in...The Adventures of Tom Bombadil, more precisely the poem Man in the Moon Came Down too Soon. We learn there of the feature of that port city Tirith Aear, Seaward Tower, other than that we know the city lies on the peninsula at Cobas Haven, in Bay of Belfalas, there is reference to Prince's Imrahil's castle by the sea and that's it hehe :), Dol Amroth seems incredibly fascinating though.
Pelargir, ahh that would be probably one of the most amazing cities, the first and oldest settlement in the region, an old numenorean colony. It's a funny hing but Tolkien in a letter actually compares the city to...Venice!!
"Venice seemed incredibly, elvishly lovely - to me like a dream of Old Gondor, or Pelargir of the Númenorean Ships, before the return of the Shadow.”
And a sort of confirmation of that Venice-like properties can be seen in this bit heheh:
"...and the house that Tarannon built below Pelargir "upon arches whose feet stood deep in the wide waters of Ethir Anduin;" :). We can also say that Harond, the docks and harbor of Minas Tirith(Anor) upon Anduin by the wall of Rammas Echor could be regarded as separate settlement (we can imagine it was like Ostia was to Rome in ancient times). There were certainly lesser towns and loads of villages in between the named settlements, not even counting all the outposts and military bases and strongholds (aside from mentioned Amon Hen and Amon Lhaw there were other strongholds and forts along Anduin on the shores of Calenardhon along with entire infrastructure like roads, bridges and portage ways, Calenardhon was one of the main provinces at the time of Gondor's foundation), also there were definitely unnamed settlements in Anfalas, Pinnath Gelin, Lamedon and Morthond Vale and Ringlo Vale that belonged to the local lords (though the lord of Ringlo Vale may resided in Ethring for all we know, we learn that in Lotr this unnamed lord's son was Dervorin), there were apparently also outposts and some coast-guard and beacon-hills on Andrast cape). Ithilien also must have been dotted wiht many ruins (in fact we see some of the ruins when Frodo and Sam venture there, it was probably full of estates and mansions with vineyards and gardens something like Tuscany of Middle-earth).
And of course regions like Ethir Anduin, Tolfalas isle, Harondor the South Gondor, all must have (or had once) many settlements, towns and small cities and villages along with scattered farms and homesteads like the rich townlands of Pelennor Fields where many folk lived and had houses and buildings of all sorts.
Has anyone heard about how they are filming the LOTR amazon series in scotland, it was strange news for me!
facking love this series already!
You wear Tolkien like a tight fitting suit! Man I wish I knew a man like yoystan, I’d probably give him a big hug
This is real interesante
The movies did not do Gondor justice. The average watcher would most likely leave thinking that Minas Tirith was the entire scope of Gondor.
As middle earth fan. Good video!
The one complaint that I have about both the books and the movies is that, aside from the Shire, there is very little depiction or mention of the infrastructure of the major human factions, such as where are all the farms, the livestock? Surely they must be there. Other than Edoras, Minas Tirith and Helm's Deep, it seems every where else is empty.
Tolkien was telling a story, not.creating a tabletop game.
Very nice video. You described the Cities of Gondor very well. Personally I believe that Tarnost is a city, as it includes the -OST element which means city or fortress in Sindarin.
You also forgot some very obscure by canonical settlements in the Pinnath Gelin. We know only the names of two, Agar and Udul, which were villages of a people part of related to the Men of the Mountains in the Second Age, before the lands were colonized by the Númenoreans.
I love these videos . absorbing tolkein shit is fun
Tharbad was a city of Arnor, and the capital of the successor kingdom of Cardolan. It was built in the Second Age by Tar-Aldarion as an inland port. in the TA 1430s', Gondor provided a stabilizing influence and stationed a large embassy and guard force to aid their sister Dunedain, but it was not a city built or controlled by Gondor
I want to live in Gondor now
First one here keep up the good work man ;)
Nice video!
Nice you should do Rohan.
keep it up love your videos
Gondor reminds me of Ancient Rome.
Great start of the new serie. No need for books, Wikipedia...just see a video If you want to learn of Tolkien.
Cool video
i noted a slight decay of your energy in the video
Yoisten, thou art awesome.
I've been playing a lot of dark souls games lately and it's obviously it's taken a lot of inspiration from Gondor and Arnor. Only that its a dying world in decay and a corruption has set in. But i get the impression that in its hey day it was a beautiful civilisation very similar to Numenor in its prime.
Could you do a video on how the middle Earth calender system works? Like what is an age exactly? How long is an age? Why does the calendar date restart after each age? 🙏
Ooh, Numenor!!
I think a settlements of Mordor video could be great, geographically it's a pretty interesting region but it's settlements aren't talked about much.
At one time Gondor allowed orcs to live in some of their lands and farm them
really?
Happy Easter Week.
Will you do a follow - up on the Northern Kingdom(s)?
Very interesting. On a related theme I'd love to hear a bit more about Numenorean settlements elsewhere - further down the coast of Middle-Earth, or maybe even on the other continents?
There are no named settlements south of Umbar. Sorry.
Do the shire next
The marriage of Mithrellas and Imrazor is most definitely canon, referenced in dialogue by Aragorn in RotK.
Legolas also confirms that Imrahil is a man with "elven-blood in his veins" the moment he meets the Prince. As his sister was Faramir and Boromir'a mother they too would have had this air about them (Boromir didn't).
Nice will you talk about all the lands east and south of middles earth
And there was I thinking that Amroth was a village in Pembrokeshire.
Hi MOTW. A word on your pronunciation of Tolkien's surname. He repudiated its derivation from Slavic "tolk", an interpreter, preferring the (to my mind) fanciful one from German "tollkuehn", foolhardy. Yet there are many Tolkins but few Tolkiens
The fortresses surrounding Morder including Minas Morgul were all completely destroyed after the final defeat of Sauron to prevent their use by the enemies of Gondor. They were not restored except maybe in fan fiction.
Not to prevent their use (you made this up). Minas Ithil was to be torn down and the valley cleansed of the foul water and ambiance but Aragorn forbade people to live there as it was too evil still.
The other fortresses like Cirith Ungol , the Towers of the Teeth and the Black Gate might just remain or be abandoned, as there are no more enemies who could use them like Mordor did
All fanart of minas tirith is beautiful but most always miss the detail that the first main wall was black not white
For much that I love Tolkien's work when it comes to settlements and populations makes very little sense... eastern Gondor seems to be more defined because the action takes a great deal of it in those territories but as soon your start moving to west Gondor it's territories become fuzzy and unknown...
I always have wonder how do people live in the vast wilderness of Middle-Earth? We see only a handful of settlements written in the maps but are those the only ones? do people live in small hamlets and homesteads rather than in unknown cities or towns? are there other halls (smaller) than that of Medhusel? Is like the whole Eriador inconsistency, in thousands of years after the fall of Arnor no other peoples have emerged to regain the lands, even Bree has remain a small Village for what? 1200 years? Entire civilisations have risen, fall, rise again and then forgotten in our world for that span of time.
Could you do a Cardigans settlements
Was Annuminas ever reinhabited and made the capital of Arnor once it was reestablished following the War of the Ring?
LOve your videos could you do one on what happened to the elvish settlements after the war of the ringand into the 4th age plz Yoystan
Can you do one settlement-video for the northmen?
Dol amroth is it's own capitel city, it's the capitel of a kingdom called "Dol Amroth". And they own all of belfalas!
The capital is Pelargir
More of a Dukedom...
Dol Amroth is a city that overlooks the fiefdom of Belfalas. It existed before Gondor and became part of Gondor, often intermarrying with the Kings and Ruling Stewards. The Prince is a member of the royal court though not a royal himself.
Gondor is cool