🔵Soft Ultra bee Patties. Recipe ratio and mixing tips!
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- How we make thousands of pounds of patties!
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Here is How we mix 1:1 sugar syrup for feeding bees th-cam.com/video/J9pSC4CO-vo/w-d-xo.html
Here is where you can buy the heating elements used to heat the syrup in this video amzn.to/33utE8M
Hello Kamon - what kind of liquid 1/1sugar do you use Sucrose or Corn Syrup ? thanks
@@michael2B Sucrose hard to find though. My source dried up.
The fact that he stood there so patiently to. Hope he got that hug.
He did. He is momma's boy fooooor sure
@@kamonreynolds It doesn't take kids long to learn that line, popping up at all hours...I wanna give mommy a hug, kiss etc.
At 3:00 you show the world how to make a man. Damb I burst out laughing and coughing... REMINDER... you do not always get what you want.... when you want it. Bee people are so real. I dont know what happen to the world but you and I grew up in the same one.
cheers.
You have no idea how much you help brother thank you
Happy to help!
I almost gave a dislike because Jimmy didn't get a hug....awe.
Definitely more likes in a video with hugs 🤗
LOL He gets alot of hugs! The little stinker primarily wanted to be in the video. I'd bet my bama hat on it :-)
@@kamonreynolds Lol well he's a cutie, be proud of your beautiful family sir. (I know you are ;) just sayin)
Interesting! Never heard of these patties, thanks for the recipe. Sweet baby boy needs a hug 🥺
Informative and definitely entertaining as always. Nothing like getting some help from the young ones! 😉
Great video thanks for sharing .give that boy his hug .🤗
손수 화분떡과 고체사료도 만들어 쓰시는
님의 지혜와 체력이 부럽습니다~~~^-*
아직 젊으신데 쉽게 가지않고 어렵게 돌아가는 인내를 배워봅니다!
Just thinking out loud here Kamon...would a mortar mixer make this job easier for you then a drill? I'm thinking you probably can get away from heating the syrup up first.
Just an idea, what if you used a large cement mixer? Like Ronco said. Set it then forget it!
I knew you had many hives...but your MONDO syrup 'jar' & MEGA HUGE bag of ultrabee really puts your operation into scale.... Wow. Impressive!
i would love to see jimmy in your videos, GOD bless
I saw a video Mendez did and he was using a mortar mixer to make his pollen sub. Works well for large scale.
If you use a traditional drywall mud mixing paddle you’ll find that it will change how long it takes to mix. It will cut through that mixture while also pulling the top down into the bottom of bucket. You’re currently using a paint mixer. Try it.
Duder and Dudette you guys gotta get a small Cement Mixer. It'll mix by itself and you can carry on with other chores YES? Harbor Freight for a couple hundred bucks or so I think. Check it out it'll be worth the investment Much Love Young Brother! Many Fish One Love!...@'Ur6
It wouldnt work. He would end up with dry stuck to the inner walls and dry rolling over it. He'd have netter luck with an industrial mixer.
@@chandlerrogers8096 But a 20 or 30 quart commercial mixer would. ;)
Hey Kamon let the boy give mommy a hug !!!
Hi Kamon. Please can you let me know what temperature the Syrup is and the amount /ratios of syrup and sub is. By the I love your no nonsense approach to you videos. Thanks again
Thanks !!
Have you ever considered using a hands free concrete mixer.. Just an idea!!! Thanks for all your videos ♡
You know your a professional beekeeper when you use pollen by the shovel full. I tried halving your smallest batch recipe but it ended up to hard so I will have to add more liquid next time.
Kamon,
In this video, you made a statement that suggested your bee feeding program includes pollen patties throughout the summer. Please tell us precisely when you make this foodstuff available to your bees. I was under the impression that pollen patties were only necessary in the early spring. BTW: I think we could greatly benefit from a video that provides a comprehensive description of your feeding program. I really appreciate your videos.
Regards,
Mike Godbey
Casey County, KY
When do we feed them sugar water and when do we feed froze protein patty’s and where do we place it in the hive ?????
You need that "Big Bertha" mixer that Ian has.
I get tubs from grocery stores...give'm a bit of honey and they're happy too. They'll do it without any honey, but....hey, I give all my honey away, so..why not. If you go to the Bakery Dept. and ask for empty frosting tubs, they'll save them for ya! Food grade and free!
Would love a simple recipe for the backyard beekeeper...with 5-6 hives
Use a pint of honey and three cups of ultra bee. Mix it in a kitchen aide mixer with the dough hook..
I cut this recipe down to 1/10th the size and use 2-1 sugar syrup it ended up being really runny so I had to ad more than 1/10 of the ultrabee. So it ended up being about 3lbs 3oz of 2-1 sugar syrup and 2lbs of ultra bee which got me a little over 5lbs of patty roughly half a gallon
Great vid. You're showing off those guns again bud!
That's a lot of pollen pattie mixture Kay-man, & a massive tank of syrup! Would a stainless cement mixer do the job or would it be too hard to pour out?
Glad the lil' fella received his mummy cuddles. 👨👩👦
A good cement mixer probably would do pretty decent but I am not sure how decent and how good it would pour. We have thought about the investment into one but there are bigger needs this year that we are going to address. Who knows maybe I will rent one!
500#s. What about using a cut off 55 gallon barrel . And a dry wall , paddle mixer for your drill. Possible batch 15-20 gallon batches?
Hey Kamron!! Thanks for the recipe. I know you make big batches of this stuff but I’m trying to make a gallon at a time. Can you breakdown the ratios per gallon of this mixture? I’ll be using the pro-sweet syrup. Thanks a bunch and love your channel.
Hey Kamon .. I'm suggesting you invest in a drywall mud mixer instead of using a paint mixer .. they're designed to go through the heavier stuff and mix quite quicker .. and it will stir almost the whole bucket at once .. just keep the corner of your foot on apiece of the bucket when you get the trigger at full throttle !! .. just some advice from a fan .. happy bee keeping friend!!
Thanks Jayme I will look into that
That's going to burn up drills. Dont do it Kamon. Drywall mud is way thinner than pollen sub. To do it right get a commercial kitchen mixer. There's a model with a heating element in the huge mixing bowl .
@@mikeries8549 yeah mike as it is my drill get pretty warm just using what I have. I either need to invest into a bigger drill or jump to a commercial mixer. Honestly I am thinking of just buying patties out right next year. Save me some time
For small amounts, what is the ratio of heavt syrup to pollen substitute? Pounds of syrup to pounds of sub.
In my country it's called beef tenderloin. Maybe in Canada they call it a filet I suppose..
Nice!!
Would a concrete mixer work to mix it?
If you sold your Pollen Patties I would buy them. With everything else I have going on, I'm not sure I have the time. Let me know if you decide to market and sell your patties. Thanks Kamon
Could you feed the bees this with honey supers on?
Kammon, have you thought of using a cement mixer? Harbor freight has them for a reasonable price. You should be able to process 100 pounds at a time.
Will a concrete mixer mix be better than I drill
"Fun times" boy...the enthusiasm is just over whelming...LMAO! 😂 oh yeah...long long looooonnng days.
What was the ratio of sugar to water to make the syrup?
4:58
Somebody needs to invent a pollen patty making machine for you!
Well I ain’t going to you Kamon if I need any hugs. 😂
Lol :0
Kamon what if a brood nest spans two hive bodies, can you put sub between the upper and lower brood boxes ? I would put it to the edge of the nest?
here is what I do to doubles in 2 minutes th-cam.com/video/bUDd3vk7bgY/w-d-xo.html
Sugar's a good preservative.
Is there also recipe without pollen? Just for stimulation
Kamon is there any problem with mixing Ultra Bee in your liquid syrup? This way you don’t have any problem with hive beetles.
How do you keep the bees from getting stuck in it ? Was mine just to gooey? How to make smaller batch for one hive? Anyone, ty
How will I know for sure when feeding pollen patties are necessary???
when the larvae look dry. big colonies with plenty of bee bread will likely be fine for quite a while.
Do you currently have queens to sell??
Hey im planing to buy Pollen paties are there benefits for bees ? are they stimulating the hive
I just by the 60 lb box of patties from manlake lol its easer good video
Awesome 🍺🍺
When mixing stuff, are you not afraid of Wasps pestering you? Fascinating video.
Hey Ian what type of wasps do you all deal with this time of night?
@@kamonreynolds None now... but later in the year they become pests at any time. You call them yellow jackets. But don't they pester you with the syrup & try & steal the Bees honey?
@@ianotimelord Last year they were a big problem until i found the nest. So far not a problem!
What was the seer-up made of?
sucrose
I have bad feeling for the product called ultra bee. For years mann lake was timely about having a spring ultrabee sale February or March when I actually need the stuff. Then something changed. I think owners. Try to buy ultra bee in February or March and you can't because the other supply houses bought it all out. It just seems weird to buy mann lake products from other supliers.
I've gotten tangled up.in the details twice. The first time they, mann lake, substituted fondant for my pollen sub!?!
It took them months to correct that little problem and it's soured me on mann lake.
Dadant is a great supplier in Illinois.
I must live in the same zone as you we didn't get any honey here in NC. I ve been feeding sugar water and we are having trouble with it molding. What can I do to stop this. I started boiling it and it seemed to help for a while. What would you suggest?
Add a little apple cider vinegar
@@mattnoble1714 how much is a little? For instance, if you have a gallon of sugar syrup, how much ACV would you put in the syrup?
Is Pro-sweet equivalent to 1:1 or 2:1 syrup?
Hey Brad more like 3:1 Almost honey thick
Thanks but I wish that you had let Jimmy star ⭐️ in the video. He’s growing so fast!
Tell me about it! That boy is killing the food budget
Kamon, wait until he hits his teens!
Is there a reason why I can’t just feed pure pollen? I only have 3 hives, so it won’t cost me much
You can, if its Pollen from your own Bees. (Use a Pollen Trap.)
Commercial Dried Pollen may have Disease, or Trace of Chemicals in it.. Often from China etc. 🥺
Just saying.
What type syrup is that
The quantity your doing, how about using a cement mixer?
ok, watched it twice to make sure I didn't miss something, but there was never any mention of any actual ratios. like what is the starting sugar/water ratio? what is the final syrup to pollen supplement ratio? tweaking a recipe? it seems that there is only 2 ingredients, was there something else?
The current recipe is just syrup and ultrabee. The syrup is sucrose, but prosweet and HFCS will work also.
But what's the ratio if you make your own syrup?
Where do I purchase the syrup and ultra in bulk?
Kelleys in Clarkson KY or at a Mann Lake
No vegetable oil in this recipe? Also, I add a little bleach to my sugar water - no mold - of course, it rarely stays in the feed jar long enough to mold these days........
What type of Syrup or using
Hey Ron I have made this with multiple syrups. Prosweet and some sucrose. I am sure HFCS can be used but I prefer cane based syrups.
This was a good video like always but I have to stick to your old recipe it is much easier and the sugar and water is a lot cheaper and the bees still like it
Hmmm nice video how do you feel about adding honey bee healthy and essential oils too the mix ??
Hi bre car. From my point of view it has no nutritional benefit that we for sure know of. They are added as a feed stimulant. They may very well help the bees more aggressively attack the patties but for the price of H.B.H. it is not worth it. Also, I haven't seen a lack of desire by the colonies to consume these. This could be due to the dried lemongrass that is already in the ultrabee. I have wondered if adding more would be good but just have not felt the need to try. Not saying it is bad for the bees but it is bad for the bottom line and I am not sure it actually helps.
Kamon Reynolds - Tennessee's Bees okay thanks for the reply and I like getting a second opinion from a person who has been around it more than I have thanks again
Kamon. I knew before reading the comments you were going to pay for that no hug policy lol. as for the filet if you visit MO Ill take you and the fam out for a filet.
Thanks James. Probably ought to keep the tab on just me though Jimmy is the blackhole around here. He nearly ate a whole entree yesterday and it was big. I am going to have to make more production hives so I can feed that boy! The hug thing was the stinker trying to get on camera! He is a good boy but doesn't always mind when we say we are doing a video, pipe down and stay away please. His smart little brain is like....... well...... if I say i want a hug I will be so cute they will have to let me in! Smart kid.
@@kamonreynolds yup! There wheels turn pretty young! My husband rebuilds cars. At 5 my son moved the cow tank in front of a parts car, put mud on the hood and roof and was using it for a slip and slide. It told him he was going to get hurt on the windshield wipers! He said, "don't worry mom I already took them off!" Lol! Boy you gotta watch those kids!!! :)
@@kamonreynolds P.S. he's been in the Army 12 years now!
@@kamonreynolds cute too!
What you need is a comerical stand mixer
No problem mixing with one of those.
I would’ve been fine with pausing the video for a sec.
#jimmyneedsahug
Do SHB lay eggs in it this time of year.
Yes they do. Feeding it to the colonies is an art form. Don't feed too much and a SHB trap or 2 can really help.
At 6:50 there were ghosts in the extreme right of your frame!!!
How long would those pollen patties last unrefrigerated? Or do you refrigerate them?
5 months in a bucket in my basement with some saran wrap under the lid
But what exactly is Ultrabee, I mean what chemicals are the bees actually consuming?
Most pollen patties are made with soy, brewers yeast, trace minerals, (like what we would take in a minerals supplement) a small amount of corn. And other things. Ultra bee is made in a non GMO form also.
I'm a professional stone Mason and tile setter. You are using the wrong mixing device. Thats a paint mixer. You should try a drywall Paddle mixer and cut down the time by 50%.
Five hundred pounds! 😮 I bet you're glad you're done with the video, now you can get to work.😀
I know right. With the hot syrup I can do about 500 in 2ish hours. Not too bad. Not that good either.
How much oil
I'll buy you a filet, but you have to get on Patreon, I won't use paypal.
For 500lbs use a concrete mixer.
Yeey
Im new beekeeper, and i just dont understand how is it possible that here we dont have any pollen substitute like you guys have ultrabee nor anyone talks about it ever. No one uses any kind of patties
Hi Nedim. We have it available here but many in my state say not to use them due to the hive beetle. They are very useful helping colonies in poor years and especially helpful on young splits with very little beebread going thru a period of pollen dearth. Even if a little pollen is coming in it may not have a high or full enough amino acid profile. Some locations have long diverse pollen flows so these are not as useful to them. To me they are another tool in the tool box that helps me keep my hives healthier
Lako je to odgovorit. Zato što naše pčele nisu kokoši koje ginu svake godine kao njihove.
If we didn't need it for this last 1000 years...cood be thet we don't need it this year nider. It's diferent beekeeping, all about big nunbers and spliting...not thet i'm an ekspert on sub.. It shud be normal for bees to not have a flow all year around..one from the top of the hive, or from nature.. but i anderstend, when they are your job and you need to make a living of them..it is a diferent thing.. and in a year like this they need it to growe them fast.. not for honey.. za nukleuse
Do you have a ghost walking around at night?
ماهو الدقيق الأصفر
Jemy good men 💞💖💖💖💞😍😻😻😻
Sticky mice?
SO KAmon...you did away with granulated sugar? this video you only show Ultra bee and syrup????? No veggie oil?....apple vinegar?....I have your last recipe and found it to be thick....can I add pro sweet a few days later if I want to thin it down?....No hugs needed here...Roll Tide!!!!
Hey Robb just sucrose syrup and ultrabee. Before I had easy cheap access to prosweet I had to use granulated sugar, water, veg. Oil with the ultra bee. This recipe last longer, is easier and quicker for me. You could add a tiny bit of syrup and see if that helps
Filet is a joke,ribeye is the best.
Yellow dust is soy
500 pounds? How many colonies are you supplementing? Honestly, I don't know how you take care of your operation. Ian shows his workforce from time to time, Kamon you have got to have some help hidden somewhere!
I do. She is hidden behind the camera haha
What?????? Buy the filet and enjoy, you just have to. We raise and slaughter our own beef,,filet Mignon rules!
I'll bet home raised is even better!
man great video but it was dissapointing what you said to your son you are the father you can do what ever you decide to
but next time you can cut the video and let the kid have a hug from his mother 1 video is not more importent from a kid loving his mother and i dont think any one wold mind if you cuted the video
Thanks for watching!
I also know my son says things to get attention. What he said was "cute and sweet" but he directly disobeyed to ask for that hug just so he could get in the video. He is a good kid but like many children (and adults) attempts to manipulate from time to time. I assure you he gets hugs on a regular basis.
@@kamonreynolds okey okey man maybe next time maybe add him in the video hehe.
We are all bee keepers no one expect us to be pros our community is very good dou ppl all arround the world show there way how to produce better results and taking care of the bees i hope your continue to show us new stuff you learned and your son continues after you!
Cheers P.S. sorry for the bad english
@@homestuff6545 wow, that's some balls to lecture a father on how to raise their kid. That'll get you a bloody nose.