YOU DON'T LIKE "Godzilla: Final Wars"!? I'M GONNA... respect your opinion, as one of the glories of TH-cam is the ability to share our own thoughts and feelings, and we as people should respect said things, even if we don't agree with them.
More seriously: the film does explain why Monster X aka Kaiser Ghidora is so powerful that he can nearly kill Godzilla -- he has the Kaiser version of the M-gene that makes him equivalent to a super-version of one of the kung-fu mutant squad. Godzilla is the only kaiju who doesn't have the M-gene, which is why the Xilians can't just mind control him. So Godzilla fighting the Kaiser M-gene kaiju would be like Don Frye being the one to go after the Xilian leader at the end: Don Frye can solo the normal Xilians, without much problem, but he'd have had a hard time (apparently!) beating the leader, so a fellow Kaiser-gene mutant has to do that. Admittedly, this is a convoluted reason, but the film is a convoluted mess, too, so... Just remember: "There's two things you don't understand about Earth. One of them's me. The other -- is Godzilla."
@@godzilla2k26 As I recall, the answer was no, Mothra didn't (which was related to her fighting Gigan, who did: all human mutants got their M-gene from Gigan's stony body.)
I've never heard anyone else break down EVERY SINGLE problem that I had with Final Wars as well as you have in this video! Although I didn't like the Gigan redesign as much as you did. The original Gigan is one of my favorite monsters of all time.
For me it's just the fact they sidelined rodan, anguris and king ceaser. They should have been in the final battle. Also they barley celebrate the 50 anniversary. They focus on the showa era instead of the 90s and 2000s era
Titanus Leviathan Not really you can only say that’s it’s close to being 1 Showa movie that being Ghidorah the Three headed monster, but even then it’s not like that similar to it anyway. Rodan doesn’t fight along Godzilla, there are more than just the 4 Kaiju in the film. The only Showa element was Angirus but he’s just a cameo. If anything King of the Monsters made more references than just the Showa era of course there was Burning Godzilla or referencing artificiality created titans using genetic manipulation that being Biolante. Mean while Final wars is nothing but Showa references from the fact that 90% of the Kaiju are from the Showa era, the whole Gorath planet, the xelians, the atragon, meanwhile the rest of the franchise get cameos in form of a few figures in 1 scene.
@Titanus Leviathan KOTM did something that final wars didn't. gave the monsters character. Also even if you think Kotm was shit. dose that make final wars any better.
@@kiracollie7115 I'd say the Monster-Verse is one of the better MCU knock - offs. So many companies tried to capitalize on the success of a shared universe, what with TASM series, The Dark Universe and the Worlds of DC. Personally I think the Monster-Verse did it best
I thought it was a great movie but I must admit it has sooo many problems Edit: the short battles were in my opinion the most flawed part Edit:now that I think about it, not really the most flawed part. I will still always love the movie
I have to agree with your review. The Legendary 2019 King of the Monsters felt more like a true Godzilla movie than did Toho’s FInal Wars. And I’ve been watching Godzilla films for 50 years (yeah - I’m that old!)
Yeah KOTM is so much better than Final Wars. I watched Final Wars and couldn’t stop laughing at all the dumb characters and plots. It’s a joke compared to KOTM.
I really liked the film by not taking it to seriously and just enjoy th ride. Edited: BUT i agree about the final point of the video, and people complain G2014 lacks Goji into it...
Godzilla 2014 didn't show him until the half way point to build tension and to get everyone excited when he did show up, like how Jaws never showed the shark until the final act.
I did not like the way King Cesar looked in this movie. I think it's because they gave him normal eyes unlike the red crystal like ones in Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla 1974
Personally, I think that Godzilla Final Wars is a great 50th anniversary special. We already got a very serious anniversary with Godzilla vs Destoroyah and we ended up getting another with Godzilla (2014) so I really like the silliness and camp for Final Wars.
@@ronniepatterson2827 Meh, if I want a schlock braindead entertaining Godzilla movie, I'd prefer the movie to have more action, less kid-actors, and no stock footage or silly theme-park plot or blatant Ultraman ripoff drawn by a kid.
Two words: Ruhei Kitamura. The director didn't have a clue about what Godzilla was about. This one's on my list of least liked, least played G movies and it's for all the reasons you covered here.
Yes, he was absolutely the wrong choice for this film. Roland Emmerich got flak back in the day for ripping off Jurassic Park in the 1998 Godzilla. He's got nothing on Kitamura, though. In addition to The Matrix and X-Men, Final Wars also cribs from Star Wars and Independence Day (a thief can also be robbed). Someone at Toho must have watched Versus, which was a good movie, but did no one think to hire Shusuke Kaneko to direct Final Wars? The series would have stopped without a 50th anniversary film if not for GMK's success.
@@vidwatcher30s I get you're probably talking about how Roland Emmerich "ripped off" Jurassic park, but what did independence day steal? Edit: nvm you were talking about Roland Emmerich himself sorry
But why bother making him superpowered if you dont give him longer fights? Those fights should have been bigger and longer, making that film a knockdown drag out Royal Rumble, but they didn't try.
@@dolomaticus1180 Just look at what they did to Hedorah or Gigan for that matter. I expect better from the two enemies that gave Godzilla a hard fought battle.
I was unbelievably disappointed by FW ☹️ There was so much buildup to it as being the ultimate monster slug-fest, even bigger than DAM, especially as the 50th anniversary send-off leading into the 10-year hiatus... and what we got was the equivalent of an overblown episode of “Matrix Rangers” prominently featuring one of the worst American non-actors ever 😭
I was disappointed that the cool, new monster wasn't really a new monster. Instead of being his own thing, Monster X was just another Ghidorah for the umpteenth time. And Ghidorah would have been fine, but I thought we were getting a new monster.
abdullah bohamad I want Jet Jaguar,gorosaurus,MOGUEARA,ebirah,Gigan,anguirus,Baragon,Varan,Manda,Kumongu,That Whale Kaiju,the human vapor,and Son of Kong in the monsterverse
To be fair, I believe Keizer Ghidorah is meant to be a separate character from the likes of King Ghidorah himself. Not to mention that Ghidorah himself hasn't really been in that many films anyway. He's only been in one film in the Heisei and Millenium films each, for instance. I think the idea of a Ghidorah-derivative being the final opponent came from the notion that Ghidorah was to Godzilla what the Joker is to Batman. Then again, I could be wrong. That's just what I think.
11:12 - For me, the best giant monster films are the ones where you're invested with both the human drama and the monster action and are enjoying both sides of the even out equation. Unfortunately, this is rarely done with the monsters taking a distant back-seat to the human drama or vice versa and Final Wars falls into said trap.
I can agree the story of Final Wars focuses less on Godzilla and more on what was trending, and I can attest that it's clunkily written. Space Godzilla, Kiryu, Biollante, King Ghidorah and other kaiju that don't appear in the film appear as bandai toys in that one scene with the kid in Canada. Not only was that scene a plugin for Bandai, but it suggests that those kaiju appeared at some points within Final Wars's own timeline as the kid remarks "that's a real anguirus," implying that he has an anguirus toy. So did humanity make toys out of the kaiju they defeated? Were there other godzillas besides FinalGoji that would make it possible for Space Godzilla and Biollante to appear as their backstories imply, unless they were rewritten?
I disagree on the suits and explosions. Being over the top is the director's style, and I love how stylish this movie is. It wears it's craziness on it's sleeve, and I love that. It's it's own brand of Godzilla movie that we'll likely never see again.
The greatest offense...they cut out Hedorah's extended fight scene and had him slaughtered like swine like everyone else...my sludge boi... *weeps* (Just kidding, but seriously; why Hedorah? Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, you beautiful pile of crap) I cannot forgive this...
When you sit and think about it, the preceding film Godzilla Tokyo SoS was the more reverent film to what came before, what with the lynch pin being the original Godzilla from 1954 bones being the center of the conflict, a classic man’s hubris vs nature moral lesson, the best depiction of Mothra in years, and even loving nods to showa history with mr Chujo being the same character from Mothra. The fight scenes were dynamic but still true to what the suit designs were capable of. Does it have its weak points? Sure, like the sidelining of Akane from GxMG and the new pilot of Kiryu really just being there with little characterization just so the protagonist can butt heads. Even with little things like that, Tokyo SoS feels much more respectable about Godzilla which was your main issue with Final wars. While I don’t utterly despise final wars, there are a few things that don’t gel well with it. Kyle Emerson’s score is fine on its own but it sounds like it belongs on a toku tv show (like the us scores to power rangers these days)than a big send off to Godzilla. (Sum41 with the zilla fight doesn’t really make sense though I became a fan of the song) Score was one thing that Bear McCreary got right with a proper belonging of new and old, that’s something final wars really needed. It’s nice to see classic showa and heisei actors pop up in this film but it kinda feels like they only did it for some just to say they got them in. (Akira Takarada is still a delight and Kumi Mizuno did well) The suit thing is really noticeable on King Caesar , especially when he did that wrestling jump during the Mt Fuji Battle. I think the fighting humans thing was a reply to all the complaints about human scenes in last films just being people talking around a table or looking at a monitor or from a rooftop. (And yet that kinda happens by the end anyway) It is rather cool to see a human task force attack a lesser monster like ebirah though.
The film strives to make Michael Bay action movies look restrained. It succeeds all too well. That being said, I do still find the film to be entertaining. I just don't think it's very well-made.
I'm going to be honest, being a Godzilla fan living in the United States after the release of Godzilla: Final Wars and before the release of Godzilla 2014 was a pretty dark time, at least for me. Final Wars is a good movie, but even as a kid I knew that it has a lot of flaws, such as it's dumb Matrix/X-men action scenes with editing, music and lighting that reeks of early/mid 2000s and it's rushed monster fights. The fact that this was the latest Godzilla movie and the last one we will for a long time made me somewhat bitter. Not so bitter that I was angry, just unsatisfied. It's by far my least favorite Godzilla anniversary film and a not so good way to end the franchise for a decade. Hell, I'd say that Destroy All Monsters and Godzilla vs Destoroyah did a better job when it comes to "ending" the Godzilla franchise and that Tokyo S.O.S. is a better 50th anniversary film because those movies actually felt like what a Godzilla movie should be like. Final Wars feels like it was made that way because Toho felt that retiring Godzilla and celebrating his 50th anniversary is a good excuse to produce a 2-hour balls-to-the-wall edgy sci-fi fan-fiction featuring Godzilla & company written by a 12 year old who is trying to be cool and bad-ass by playing Grand Theft Auto and listening to Linkin Park. Final Wars still remains as my least favorite Millennium Godzilla film. It's not the worst Godzilla film, it's still a good movie. I like it for what it is, but I always felt that Godzilla deserved better. I just hope that Godzilla's 70th anniversary gives us a film that's not so divisive on the fandom. And I'm still annoyed with Hedorah's cameo, but not as much as Dogora, Dagahra and Orga's cameos in Godzilla: Planet of the Monsters.
I wish they could've just done it as a War of the Monsters-esque movie, with the Earth Monsters having a war against the Alien Monsters, with six monsters on each side: Earth Monsters: - Godzilla - Mothra - Rodan - Anguirus - Baragon - King Caesar Alien Monsters: - King Ghidorah - Mechagodzilla 3 (Not Kiryu, but a literal Mechagodzilla 3) - Megalon - Gigan - Hedorah - Titanosaurus I would've also had it take place between 1975 and 1999, being a prequel to Destroy All Monsters
I would be down for this 12 monster tag🤠 For constraints I'd do a 3v3 probly Godzilla, Mothra, Rodan Vs Monster X, Battra(so underrated), and Gigan ^_^ oh what could've been
I just hate the fans of the movie they think its the most powerful godzilla bc it deafted over 10 monsters by himself even though most of those monsters were weak af
I thought _exactly the same_ about this film when I saw it, all those years ago. This isn't a Godzilla film, this is an X-Men film with accidental kaiju.
You are not going to talk about the hour of extra footage that was cut from this film? You know the one that was mostly monster fights and much needed explanation of other monsters?
But that makes it even worse!!! If that missing hour really had all the fights and explanations, then that is the outright indictment of the Director. He should have found a way to get some more of that in, which means all the human/Xillian fights really did mean more to him.
I feel like Kaiju that’s should’ve been in the film: I feel like Monster X isn’t that good to appear in a Monsterverse movie or a future Godzilla Toho film like we should’ve got Megalon, Destoroyah, Spacegodzilla, Megalon, Biollante, Titanosaurus (They used stock footage but I wanted Titanosaurus to fight Godzilla) and same with other monsters like Megaguirus, Baragon and Varan and I want Battra again but I want one of these monsters I brought up instead of Monster X.
We need more videos like this. Explaining what people like or don't like about films without entirely making their opinions out to be the objective way of viewing something. You made quite a few good points about this one, even if they didn't bother me quite as much.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the crack-addled acting (except for Don - he looks like he's about to slump over during his scenes). Makes The Room look like Oscar bait.
Hmm, I guess I never got the feeling that Godzilla was sidelined in the film. To me it felt more like build up, and then once Godzilla was released halfway through there seemed to be a nice balance between scenes with the human characters and Godzilla decimating the other monsters. Though I admit I first watched Final Wars with no preconceived notions, as I hadn't followed the production and thus was not hyped for it.
Eh I’ve always had mixed feelings for final wars. Its a mess but a mess with some effort put into it. The suits always did look a bit more power ranger-y in movement but I’m mostly fine with it, all the same the fights should have been longer. Like whats the point for adding all those monsters if they barely do anything?? My boy hedorah got it the worst!
Reasons why i dont like final wars fanboys: *They think godzilla fw is strongest godzilla ever. They think that keizer can one shot void ghidorah (what the hell) %99 Of them are made out of salt. They are the most toxic things i have ever seen.
Now you mention it I agree about Minilla I mean where he come from?, Why Godzilla listen to him by not kill those human characters even Godzilla didn't know he exist?, I understand why you don't like kaiju suits, I didn't know Godzilla was overpower in that film, and I didn't know that film is kinda like X-Men and Matrix.
Honestly, this movie is what got me back into Godzilla. It kinda has a special place in my heart since it reminded me why I loved this franchise since I was three.
Godzilla Final Wars rewrite Now Godzilla Final Wars is a movie I find highly entertaining, yet incredibly flawed and I see a lot of missed potential within it, and this video has inspired me to come up with this rewrite. But first a disclaimer before I go forward. This version takes place within the same continuity of the Kiryu saga and takes place 1 year after Tokyo S.O.S, and because of that I will be changing elements of that film, such as Kiryu still having the absolute zero Cannon intact and when Kiryu lands in the ocean with Godzilla he activates it causing a good portion of the ocean to be frozen sealing the two of them in. With that out of the way let’s begin. We start the movie after Godzilla against Mechagodzilla where we see in between that film and Tokyo S.O.S Godzilla met a female of his species and began a relationship with her. We then cut to that rewritten ending mentioned previously and we cut to the opening credits, though this time they aren’t edited to endure a seizure. Now a year after Godzilla is frozen we see monsters running amuck due to the absence of the king, which is what establishes the Earth Defence Force although they are just specially trained soldiers not Mutants. The only superhuman member is a robot named Jet Jaguar. As usual in the film the characters discover an ancient monster called Gigan and are told it’s origins by the Shobijin but this time with the added detail that he was accompanied by several other monsters. Next up is when the monsters are subdued by new Kaiju (Megalon, Mogu, Hedorah, Mechagodzilla and King Ghidorah) and are seemingly teleported away by alien ships. The aliens reveal themselves as Xiliens, they also have the sudden support of politicians and they reveal their leader, a friendly monster called Keizer that can telepathically talk. The earth defence force soon become suspicious and the events that happened in the film happen as per usual but when X kills the original leader due to getting bored with the peaceful method, he is scolded by Keizer but the monster is forced to continue with a full on invasion, releasing the captured monsters and accompanying them with their own monsters. Captain Gordon then realises that the aliens are invading due to Godzilla’s absence and so decides to head out and free him. Before heading out the members that met the Shobijin are contacted by the fairies again to discuss the matter. Part of the conversation are people from the underwater empire Mu, who said they’d send out their guardian Manda to help them free Godzilla. When the Gotengo reaches where the containment Godzilla is sealed in they blow up the ice imprisonment but are attacked by Gigan. Manda later appears and gets Godzilla out of the webbing and then using his supernatural powers wakes Godzilla up. After which Godzilla blasts Gigan out of the sky, to which Manda drags Gigan underwater and then summons other sea monsters to drag the cyborg further down. After that, Manda and the Gotengo guide Godzilla to each monster rampage. We next cut to the female Godzilla from earlier, sensing her mate is free and with her child she sets off to find him. Godzilla and Manda arrive in Sydney to take on Zilla and Mogu. They easily dispatch Zilla but don’t kill him. Mogu proves to be more of a challenge, but Manda coils around him and causes Mogu to fly away. Manda then signals to Godzilla to move due to the sea Dragon’s wounds from Gigan and Mogu. Godzilla moves into Paris to take on Megalon and three original monsters (let the creative team go wild on this.). But this time the cyborg bug and his team mates proves to be a challenge. Because of this Jet Jaguar leaves the Gotengo, grows to giant size and helps Godzilla to drive Megalon and the other monsters away. Next up is Okinawa, which is being attacked by Anguirus, Rodan and Baragon. The 3 are being led by Mechagodzilla and because of this rampage the royal family have awakened their protecter King Caesar to combat the beasts. Godzilla and Jet Jaguar arrive to assist the guardian, and after a difficult battle the 3 organic monsters are knocked out and Mechagodzilla is driven away. But after this, Godzilla needs a take a break before moving forward due to his new bruises and Jet needs to return to the Gotengo for repairs. Caesar however decides to stay in Okinawa to help clean up the damages done to the city. After a while the Gotengo reaches the Xilien mothership, but after disabling the shield the crew are taken hostage by the Xiliens, all expect Jet who is hidden in the repair room. We next cut to a underwater fight with Godzilla taking on Titanosaurus and Hedorah with Manda back in the picture. This time Manda can’t use his powers to command Titanosaurus due to the mind control, but eventually they manage to knock out Titanosaurus and blast Hedorah out of the ocean. The Xiliens and Keizer (telepathically) then explain that Keizer recruited the Xiliens from a dying world and promised them earth and it’s dominant species as cattle in exchange of undying loyalty to him. But in order to survive fully in earth’s atmosphere (which is why they are the form of human) they will use King Ghidorah to power their mothership to to change the earth’s atmosphere more to their liking, which while humans will survive in the environment and all other animals won’t. Godzilla and Manda however arrive to confront King Ghidorah, and so to help the 3 headed dragon with his goal Keizer descends to fight the two earth Kaiju. When seeing Keizer motion toward Ghidorah, the humans notice the two seem close. However Keizer effortlessly knocks Godzilla and Manda to the ground and then summons his previous monsters, Gigan, Mogu, Megalon, Mechagodzilla, Hedorah and and those three original monsters. Everything seems hopeless until Jet contacts the humans saying he previously hacked into the mind function in the movie ship and disabled it. They are then contacted by the Shobijin who let them know the Mothra twins are coming with a great surprise. The Mothra twins arrive with not only King Caesar but also the now freed Anguirus, Rodan, Baragon and Zilla. It becomes apparent that the two giant Moths helped guide the confused monsters to get back at their enslavers, as well as convincing King Caesar to help protect the rest of the earth. Not only that but the rest of the Earth Defense Force comes in to attack the alien mothership. So we don’t only focus on the humans vs the Xiliens but also a very well made battle against the two monster teams with each member adding something special to their team. Titanosaurus even enters the battle as the wild card, but this time Manda can control him to attack the opposing side. Eventually humans defeat the Xiliens, destroy their mothership and the all of the space monsters are killed with the exception of Keizer and King Ghidorah. All of the earth monsters are exhausted and lie on the ground to take a rest, but Godzilla keeps his eye on the two remaining enemies. Realising his power is held by back and understanding the cost of what he’s about to do Keizer seems to apologise towards King Ghidorah who is frightened yet understanding what his master is about to. Keizer then transforms into a Ghidorah himself, now appearing to be much more animalistic with only King Ghidorah getting him to focus on their targets. This is when the humans realise King Ghidorah is Keizer’s son and Keizer created his humanoid form to be more in control of himself even if it would reduce power. Keizer then overwhelms Godzilla, King attacking any monsters trying to help him. Keizer then begins to take Godzilla’s life force so then the humans like in the original movie decide to give Godzilla energy to fight back. Godzilla then begins to fight back, inspiring the other monsters to rise back up and assist in battling the Ghidorahs. They eventually help Godzilla in throwing the two into the air and all monsters with a beam attack blast the space dragons out of earth and into the sun. Godzilla then turns to the humans on the ground, still wanting to settle a score. But suddenly Godzilla spots his mate to which he hasn’t in a year and stops even further when he notices a little Godzilla next to her. Despite being very emotional, Godzilla starts to go further with his war on humanity, but the baby Godzilla, Minilla gets in the way begging his father to stop, even local children come in and get in the way of the human army, begging the same thing. Godzilla then looks at his mate, and she just gives a look asking him to do what will make their son happy. Godzilla then decides to turns away and leave his grudge against humanity. As he turns he notices the earth monsters marvelling at him, now feeling respect toward him, rather than fear. They then decide to follow Godzilla and his family as their allies. Before going into the ocean Godzilla motions towards Manda, the Mothra twins, King Caesar and Jet Jaguar, giving his respect to them. The humans then just stand there, marvelling at what an amazing creature Godzilla is and realising that earth is safer with him as opposed without him. So what do you all think of this?
I agree with every point in this video, but I wholeheartedly agree with #2 the most. I simply do not like characters being overpowered at all, not just Godzilla but everything in general, it's a cheap cop-out, it only brings up a lotta questions, and it removes all sense of drama and suspense. If you're gonna overpower yer character, it should be the max limit and it should only be a very rare, one time occurrence (maybe twice or thrice), not something they can willingly do all the time, and should only be when delivering a final blow, which is why I love how Burning Godzilla was done in KOTM. Don't know 'bout you, but I prefer "nerfing" characters if it means I get to cheer for them more when they overcome their weaknesses, and Godzilla's power level should only be limited to his own strength and breath, nuclear pulse be used rarely, and Burning Godzilla or any OP ability should be ultra rare, circumstantial, & out of his control.
@@Godzilla-jr5gi Legendary Godzilla is the second most muscular incarnation of the character, he is also extremely fast, and one of the stronger ones out there.
Final Wars felt like a TV movie. It felt like an Ultraman or Kamen Rider movie, NOT a Godzilla movie. As mentioned the suits look cheap and rushed, and the fights don't do anything to push or make the monsters you remember from your childhood in any way a threat. They're all fodder and the fights have no tension buildup or drama to them. It didn't feel like a love letter or celebration, it was just Godzilla destroying everyone, which may sound good, except many of these kaiju fought alongside Godzilla and were fan favorites, and watching them get massacred wasn't enjoyable, and then the main villain just being Ghidorah instead of something original was also a letdown. I like it in the same way I like Godzilla Tri Star, it's a fine kaiju movie but it isn't a good GODZILLA movie
There's a shot in this movie that illustrates your point perfectly. During the final battle, Godzilla and Monster-X are on a monitor in the background while the Human hero and Alien villain are fighting in the foreground. The camera even zooms in on the monsters as if saying "this movie is totally about the kaiju. Seriously." Also, even as a kid watching this film, I never bought how Godzilla took the hit from the meteor. He should have been knocked off his feet at the very least. And I always did have issues with Mothra's portrayal. I think this may be her weakest depiction on film ever. Her ancient rivalry with Gigan suggests she can stand up to him, so to speak, but Gigan gets a temporary victory against her faster than Godzilla did against him. Speaking of that fight, was Gigan expecting his built-in buzz-saw to cut Godzilla in half or something? I still think this film is entertaining, and I love the Godzilla design and its King of the Monsters track, but overall I'd still say it's easily in the list of top 10 worst Godzilla films. So much for the 50th year of Godzilla. At least year 60 was great.
I disagree, the movie clearly celebrates Godzilla. If anything, it feels like what every kid watching showa era Godzilla dreams of. Godzilla is unstoppable, fighting all these cool past monsters, he has an anime power up and blows up a meteor. Gigan is in the movie because the diractor loved him as a kid. This is the director doing his own style of Godzilla movie and he acts like he was handed a box of toys and just goes wild with it.
Titanus Leviathan The anime trilogy blatantly ignores Godzilla’s history,favoring its own new ideas for the monsters. King of the Monsters embraces each of the Kaiju’s origins and abilities keeping them very similar to the original films wether that be Rodan emerging out of a volcano, King Ghidorah’s extraterrestrial roots, or Mothra being worshipped(at least in ancient times) as a goddess. Any changes made in their redesigns feel pretty natural like Ghidorah’s rattle snake like tail or Mothra having a stinger. Godzilla got a much deserved redesign with more Classic Dorsal plates and claws on his feet rather than the more sauropod like ones.
Titanus Leviathan I mean not that changing things up for the Kaiju is bad but King of the Monsters for the most part works each of these into the story. King Ghidorah being an invasive alien that dethroned Godzilla as the apex and Godzilla having to defeat him and reclaim the throne, or Rodan being the first titan to emerge only then to bow to Ghidorah. Idk I personally absolutely love the film but to each their own.
@Titanus Leviathan for the most part king of monsters does has a good understanding of Godzilla and probably even better then final wars since final wars is mostly focused on new trends like the matrix and human fighting instead of the monsters and is pretty all over the place
@Titanus Leviathan i agree with you that being accurate doesn't always make something good. For me personally I thinks final wars is really ok but it does sort suffer since it is supposed to be the 50th anniversary.
The biggest problem with Final Wars is the director, Ryuhei Kitamura. Every choice he makes in this movie is wrong. Its like when Ron Howard directed How the Grinch Stole Christmas; both men are talented directors, but in both cases, they were making movies that they were hopelessly ill-equipped to make, and it shows (though, with Kitamura, when I originally watched this movie, I couldn't escape the feeling that Kitamura actively hated Godzilla, and was constantly snubbing the daikaiju genre as a whole by downplaying ALL of the kaiju action for the boring-in-2004-even-worse-in-2020 Matrix-style nonsense). This movie just... hurts my heart.
I'll be honest here the biggest thing that bothers me about the film were the suit designs (some of them that is) Kumonga - looked perfect basically a modernized version of the original design. Manda - loved his design but it was hard to see in a lot of shots. Gigan - They did him so much justice, however his upgrade wasn't that good the double Chainsaw hands made him look too unbalanced and the extra large horn on his head looked gaudy. If they just gave him one chainsaw each arm I would've liked it a bit more. Kamacuras - While I like the insect look to him he looked a little too much like the Meganulon from Godzilla vs. Megaguirus. Ebirah - his design as a whole looks great my only issue with him was the head looked too small. Mothra - they just reused the prop from the Previous film so I really have nothing to say about it. Minilla - I know that they were trying to recapture his look in the 60s but it just looks dull to me I was hoping if they had to bring him in couldn't they just had him look like Baby Godzilla from the Heisei series? King Ceasar - They fucked up Royal with this one (and the others coming up) I get that the original version looked cornball then again you could say that about everyone else's designs from the Showa series. His design here made him look like a Deranged muppet. Anguirus - I hate this design. The tail, and armored plating on his shoulders and legs I'll give a pass but every thing else looked so damned ugly preferably in the face! Rodan - while do dig the coloration and the face. The horns on his head and his wings could've used more detail on them, his tail just looks nonexistent and the legs look like they belong on Cretaceous Ghidorah. Kaiser Ghidorah - Oh God this design. His skin looks like burnt Bok Choy, his tails look like twin turds hanging out of his anus, his wings look laughably small and usless, he looks like a rushed suit job. Godzilla - out of all of Godzilla's designs this for me was the worst one, he looks like oversized rat on steroids here. But if anyone likes these designs more power to you They just aren't my favorites
Godzilla - I like the design but I kinda agree with you on the face. But MY main take away about it are the dorsal fins being small compared to previous versions. I know they were trying to go for sleek design that would suit his fighting style but I can see where you're coming from. Manda - Good design and I'll also agree on not getting a good look at it when he appears in the movie. Gigan - I'm one of the very few people who prefer the Showa design over Final Wars. There's nothing wrong with it except for the fact that they went a bit over the top with all the blades. Rodan - Probably my favorite Rodan design due to he color scheme and I love what they did to the legs since it does justice by adding those "pads" to them along with the chest and abdomen since the original Rodan had something similar along his legs if you look closely while watching stock footage of the Showa era. Anguirus - His design was pretty cool especially the extra armor plating to give more of a feel as to being a mutated armored dinosaur. Ebirah - Not expecting much since he's just a big ass lobster lmao Minilla - All I can say is that he isn't as ugly as his Showa variant but his overall look is passable. Zilla - Well he's Zilla, which is actually a cool design but as his own kaiju and not a Godzilla. Kumonga - I agree with your point Kamacuras - It's probably just the wings where I can make the comparison with the Meganulon from 2000 King Caesar - I agree, they did him dirty in this film especially with he random patches of skin along his arms and legs Hedorah - It's okay but my main issues is that he doesn't have enough smog/sludge to cover a majority of his body like the OG. Mothra - I know that they reused the same puppet form Tokyo SOS and changed the color scheme on her wings, but that cannot stop me from calling her my favorite Mothra design. She has the right amount of fluff on her body to resemble a moth unlike that abomination of a stuffed animal known as Heisei Mothra. I also like how the legs are more insect-like which is another category where Heisei Mothra fucked up in and in a way gave me light towards appreciating Legendary's take on her design. Monster X - Easily my favorite design to come out of this film. The grey portions of his body that resemble of a skeleton and those red eyes make him seem pretty menacing and what a true bringer of chaos and final opponent of Godzilla should look like. Not only to mention the double tails and two heads that rest on his shoulders that foreshadow what (sadly) comes next. Keizer Ghidorah - Ladies and Gentlemen... this is the WORST King Ghidorah redesign to have ever set foot on screen. Forget GMK, forget Cretaceous, forget the Anime noodles, this right here is nothing more than a rushed suit job. I hate how half of his body is gold and half of it is black like make up your fucking mind already on what color he should be! I don't really have anything against a quadrapedal Ghidorah (Desghidorah is fine I guess) but his torso and legs look like a donkey's and if his wings are so small to the point where he clearly can't lift himself off from the ground, they why even bother giving him any? Such a complete downgrade from Monster X and a waste of Ghidorah.
Quite honestly I never liked it to much, 1: the battles where way too short each monster deserved better than that 2: the suits where terrible 3: I felt Minnilla was out of place for sure but worse then that Monster X never got a proper name and he looked and felt more like a Power Ranger villain than a Godzilla monster.
Now I agree with you on many of these points, it's still a fun movie with awesome looking kaiju and while not super in depth characters they are still fun and entertaining
I enjoy aspects of Final Wars and I can understand why some fans like it, but I find half the film to be a chore to get through. Some fans compare King of the Monsters 2019 to Final Wars a lot (and not usually in a flattering way) but honestly I find the former superior to the latter. It wasn't perfect of course but unlike Final Wars it at least focused on the monsters as the subject of the film and it at least explained almost (and I stress almost) everything it showed off that was important, as opposed to Final Wars which threw around comic book terms nobody will remember in 5 seconds and not explain most of what it brings up well enough.
Titanus Leviathan Well I doubt that any ideas that any one individual would bring up would actually ever fully change your view on the two films. Not that’s really much of problem sense at the end of the day every one has their own opinion on everything.
I don't thing FinalGoji is THAT powerful. He's not the toughest or strongest Godzilla incarnation. The fight scenes were quick because Toho didn't have the budget to get those fights well made, they just want to get the movie done. Final Wars wasn't perfect. But it's still my favorite of the Millennium. I always love Gigan's design, I thought Monster X was cool, and I adore Godzilla's design more than any Millennium designs...even though it's not my favorite, I do prefer the Heisei and MonsterVerse designs more. Final Wars does have huge problems I see, I still don't know why is Minilla in the movie, I don't think Keizer Ghidorah is THAT tough compared to a few others like MonsterVerse Ghidorah or Destoroyah, Godzilla is not the toughest at all, why is Gigan weak compared to his Showa counterpart, why was Hedorah just there, I don't know. It's just a cheesier version of Destroy All Monsters. Similar to how I say KOTM is a darker version of Ghidorah: The Three Headed Monster.
@@jmarcopulos5265 He sure is stronger than Destoroyah, but MonsterVerse King Ghidorah is actually stronger than Keizer Ghidorah. He's just too powerful, he can regenerate, Keizer lacked the regeneration, he can now shoot gravity beams from his wings. Keizer Ghidorah only has gravity beams that can only lift his opponents. Both can suck on Godzilla's energy. Still, MonsterVerse is now the toughest King Ghidorah we got, without counting the Anime. Weakest Ghidorah, GMK, aka the worst Ghidorah we got.
what i like about final wars is that it is a fun to watch movie and despite the short screen time, the brief monster action moments were very entertaining.
Godzilla Final Wars isn't one of my top favourite Godzilla movies but its better than that dreadful Day of the Doctor movie because that sucked! Lord do I hate that dr who 50th anniversary special so much! It was a complete waste of my time and to make matters! Everybody said that I was excited for it which wasn't true! (breathing heavily) got to calm down, sorry about that.
While I admit I like Godzilla Final Wars, I agree with you on the overpowered Godzilla. Design wise, he's unique and I like it, but seeing him defeat enemy after enemy without breaking a sweat, which I liked when I was younger but now, it's too much on Godzilla's part and not enough on the others. It's a real shame. 😔
One of the biggest things that holds the film back is definitely the kaiju action, especially the 'Godzilla vs [insert kaiju name(s)]' All of the kaiju fights should have been their own mini-movie within the movie. For example, the Godzilla vs Zilla '98 fight should have been exactly like the fight in the Godzilla: Rulers of Earth comic {Minus the attack choppers and Zilla getting away} (Dangerville: When Godzilla FACED OFF Against Zilla! (MONSTER BATTLE) : th-cam.com/video/5zfLnmR5c1g/w-d-xo.html).
And yet.... I still love this movie. Thanks for the review tho! While I completely disagree with you, I appreciate you aren't one of those people who feels they have to fanboy over this movie because hey a lot of big godzilla tubers love it. I genuinely like this review and your opinion on my 8th favorite G-Film does nothing to stop loving your content!
Will we even around when the 100th anniversary of Godzilla happens? Also you have very good and understandable reasons for not liking this movie of which I agree. So let's hope they don't blow it with the 100th.
The main reason I didn't like FW was that it felt more like a Japanese action movie that just happened to have Godzilla in it. Like these people were making an action movie and almost done and were all: "OH SHIT, THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE GODZILLA IN THIS!"
The 2 things I hate about Godzilla final wars is the villains and the mutants. I just hate the villain and the mutant thing was just weird and stupid But I love the kaiju fights
I didn't like *Godzilla Final Wars* when it first came out. I saw it twice in the theater in Japan because I tried to make myself like it at the time. Over the years, however, it's grown on me. I like the movie now. But I still completely agree with every point in this video! Basically now, I just turn my brain "off" for the film. But when my brain is "on" I agree with everything you said.
I think Ryuhei Kitamura had the same opinion of Godzilla as Roland Emmerich. Maybe this was movie was a foreshadowing to what the anime would truly be.
Sonic Xtreme99 Probably just took part of the Gigan’s DNA that didn’t contribute to his appearance, kinda the same logic behind the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park having frog DNA but not looking anything like a frog.
Minilla was always a "plot hole" in the original films we can just assume he's related to and knew Godzilla at some point and his goal is to meat up with him because he got lost, its not super blatant about it but its implied
I was just wondering when Godzilla was going to show up in this movie as I'm watching for the first time with my mom. Comet's doing a Godzilla movie marathon for 4th of July weekend.
Hey Omni what was your thoughts on X, the films main villain? He's over the top but is at least memorable. Also I still think 2014 and King of the Monsters are definitely better aniversry films.
Final wars Godzilla looks like a freaking goblin with those giant ears and people call him strong because he throws kaijus around like wth man that doesn’t mean anything. Right? I agree 100% with this video !👍 Especially Number #2 7:24
I can’t say much I don’t like disagree with you but totally I never saw a film so you know what he was also can’t be any worse than than Godzilla with the fish film where are the damn fish where are the damn versus Messi Rodrick film so maybe lay off it
Well here's my rant on your review Omni.. 5. Minilla. Where do I start with this, first this is a stupid argument. You must be biased for Minilla becaue saying Minilla is a big problem is like saying the dog from the Meg is a major problem, this makes no sense to include a side character to a major problem. 4. The suits. First, they don't look like they're men in suits, every Godzilla movie has the illusion that they are actually there and are not men in suits. From what I'm hearing, you're saying that you are hating on this movie because you're trying to find 5 reasons why you don't like it. Also, the slimmer Kaiju suits don't look THAT bad. The slimmer suits make the person who is playing inside of them move better and not have to take a break every 5 minutes. 3. The assault on the senses. Ok, so I do agree that the movie is loud and bright but this was chosen because it looks cool and you can hear better (Ok maybe not hear better but you know what I mean). Now if your epileptic than you should look away I've talked to many people who like FW and they said they have no problem with it, maybe you don't like flashy lights and loud noises personally but a lot of other people do. 2. Overpowered Godzilla. Godzilla being overpowered adds to the fun of the movie, watching Godzilla destroy all the other monsters is fun to watch and have a good laugh at. Also, Finalgoji isn't that powerful. There are much stronger Godzilla's out there that would eat him for breakfast. 1. The attitude towards Godzilla. Good god where do I start, first you're completely ignoring the fact the complete second act of the movie is devoted towards releasing and luring Godzilla to fight all the other monsters. The third act sure is devoted to destroying the mothership but Godzilla is still there in the background doing something, you seem to forget that even though Godzilla 2014 did that too and you have no problem with that. In the mothership scene, you said that the movie completely ignores Godzilla and focuses on the human characters, this is so wrong that it's funny. During the battles with the Xiliens and the mutants, Godzilla and Monster X appear in some scenes showing how the fight between the mutants and Xileins connect to the battle with Monster X and Godzilla, so they didn't forget about Godzilla at all. You want a movie that completely forgets Godzilla and the other monsters? Look no further than Destroy all monsters. This movie treats Godzilla exactly the same as any other G movie does. "Out of all the 50th anniversary specials there are this one is the worst." You have to be sarcastic right? Considering after that you show other 50th anniversary movies that are all terrible. This movie is one of the best if not the best because it treats Godzilla very well, either you completely forgot about the movie or you just hate it that much. "And Godzilla got an X-Men movie." No he did not by any means, sure they did rip off some of the X-Men movies but at least this one's good. Godzilla was featured very prominently in this movie that you seem to forget during this review.
According to your information Omni, if you don't want it to happen again, then maybe film directors don't need to revisit this movie, while they're making a Godzilla movie.
I respect your opinion After looking back on the movie the movie didn’t really age that well a little bit and I only love you because of nostalgic reason because I really loved watching it when I was a kid because I used to cheer me up when I was in a dark times but I can see your reasonings I do agree that the designs of the suits could be a little bit better the story could’ve been a little bit more mature but other than that this movie is pretty good it’s not the best Godzilla movie but I love it and appreciate it because it is my first Godzilla movie ever watching the first impression of Godzilla was great so I appreciate this movie but I can see your reasoning for not liking it and I have some problems with the movie is not perfect
I think Godzilla: Final Wars is one of the best, I have it ranked tied with Godzilla 2000 for best of Millennial Era. My opinion on Omni's reasons... 5: Fair argument 4: True statement, but the director was looking for something different... in this case, he wanted the kaiju to engage in some martial arts... as crazy as it sounds. 3: I think the director was looking for something 'loud'... so it comes down to preference... 2: Overpowered... this is literally my favorite aspect of this movie... I wanted an overpowered Godzilla for once!!! (GMK notwithstanding) 1: I agree somewhat about attitude... I didn't love the Matrix and X-Men stuff for a final movie of era... but it DID have Don Frye...
YOU DON'T LIKE "Godzilla: Final Wars"!? I'M GONNA...
respect your opinion, as one of the glories of TH-cam is the ability to share our own thoughts and feelings, and we as people should respect said things, even if we don't agree with them.
Well to bad youtube dosent let you share tour opinions anymore
Wish other fandoms knew about this
More seriously: the film does explain why Monster X aka Kaiser Ghidora is so powerful that he can nearly kill Godzilla -- he has the Kaiser version of the M-gene that makes him equivalent to a super-version of one of the kung-fu mutant squad. Godzilla is the only kaiju who doesn't have the M-gene, which is why the Xilians can't just mind control him. So Godzilla fighting the Kaiser M-gene kaiju would be like Don Frye being the one to go after the Xilian leader at the end: Don Frye can solo the normal Xilians, without much problem, but he'd have had a hard time (apparently!) beating the leader, so a fellow Kaiser-gene mutant has to do that.
Admittedly, this is a convoluted reason, but the film is a convoluted mess, too, so... Just remember: "There's two things you don't understand about Earth. One of them's me. The other -- is Godzilla."
Man I love that line. Such a great performance.
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Did they decide if Mothra had that Gene as well?
@@godzilla2k26 As I recall, the answer was no, Mothra didn't (which was related to her fighting Gigan, who did: all human mutants got their M-gene from Gigan's stony body.)
Bet monster x is the 1st form but ya your right
I've never heard anyone else break down EVERY SINGLE problem that I had with Final Wars as well as you have in this video! Although I didn't like the Gigan redesign as much as you did. The original Gigan is one of my favorite monsters of all time.
For me it's just the fact they sidelined rodan, anguris and king ceaser. They should have been in the final battle. Also they barley celebrate the 50 anniversary. They focus on the showa era instead of the 90s and 2000s era
Titanus Leviathan Not really you can only say that’s it’s close to being 1 Showa movie that being Ghidorah the Three headed monster, but even then it’s not like that similar to it anyway. Rodan doesn’t fight along Godzilla, there are more than just the 4 Kaiju in the film. The only Showa element was Angirus but he’s just a cameo.
If anything King of the Monsters made more references than just the Showa era of course there was Burning Godzilla or referencing artificiality created titans using genetic manipulation that being Biolante. Mean while Final wars is nothing but Showa references from the fact that 90% of the Kaiju are from the Showa era, the whole Gorath planet, the xelians, the atragon, meanwhile the rest of the franchise get cameos in form of a few figures in 1 scene.
Titanus Leviathan I’m not a hardcore nostalgia fan and I loved it
I think it was because the director only liked the Showa era
@Titanus Leviathan KOTM did something that final wars didn't. gave the monsters character. Also even if you think Kotm was shit. dose that make final wars any better.
@@SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMario Like jj with the prequels.
This movie always felt like Godzilla fanfiction to me.
And a very poorly written one at that
Funny, that’s how I view the MonsterVerse.
@@kiracollie7115 I'd say the Monster-Verse is one of the better MCU knock - offs. So many companies tried to capitalize on the success of a shared universe, what with TASM series, The Dark Universe and the Worlds of DC. Personally I think the Monster-Verse did it best
@Spacegodzilla Robert Anderson I mean it's not copyrighted so I can't stop you from doing that 😂😂
Kira Collie at least the MonsterVerse has good acting and isn’t filled with stupid campiness.
Godzilla Final Wars is one of my favorite. It was one of the first Godzilla films I ever saw. But I can respect your opinion on it.
That godzilla is my favorite
It's strange that Hedorah was one of the fastest ones to lose when he was one of Godzilla's toughest foes.
@@Abdullah-ou8wr He was hard to kill is what I meant. But Godzilla did take a lot of damage too.
@@alexism9656 ok then 👍
@@Abdullah-ou8wr i think it was a deleted scene where godzilla fought hedorah
I thought it was a great movie but I must admit it has sooo many problems
Edit: the short battles were in my opinion the most flawed part
Edit:now that I think about it, not really the most flawed part. I will still always love the movie
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IT DOESNT HAVE ANY PROBLEMS
Emerald Serpent you’re right... I love it too
Hedorah it’s a fun movie
I have to agree with your review. The Legendary 2019 King of the Monsters felt more like a true Godzilla movie than did Toho’s FInal Wars. And I’ve been watching Godzilla films for 50 years (yeah - I’m that old!)
Titanus Leviathan In the sense that King of the Monsters was more a Godzilla movie or something else?
Yeah KOTM is so much better than Final Wars. I watched Final Wars and couldn’t stop laughing at all the dumb characters and plots. It’s a joke compared to KOTM.
@Titanus Leviathan true but kotm is 100 times better
Nah godzilla final wars is better than kotm
@@holden_7597 what did you expect from movie old godzilla movie
I really liked the film by not taking it to seriously and just enjoy th ride.
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BUT i agree about the final point of the video, and people complain G2014 lacks Goji into it...
Godzilla 2014 didn't show him until the half way point to build tension and to get everyone excited when he did show up, like how Jaws never showed the shark until the final act.
*Listing some special kaiju abilities* "This one can do this; this one can do that; King Cesar is also in the movie..." Very understated, well played.
I did not like the way King Cesar looked in this movie. I think it's because they gave him normal eyes unlike the red crystal like ones in Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla 1974
giving that King Cesar ability is to sleep till you are force to song an extremely long song and then fight while hiding behind rocks.. yeah HIM?
@@Marveryn Fact check: fair and accurate.
King Cesar is the only Kajiu design I don't like, he looks very derpy. I wish he had the red eyes
Personally, I think that Godzilla Final Wars is a great 50th anniversary special. We already got a very serious anniversary with Godzilla vs Destoroyah and we ended up getting another with Godzilla (2014) so I really like the silliness and camp for Final Wars.
me too
Final Wars definitely much better & more enjoyable than drecks like "vs. Gigan", "vs. Megalon" & "Godzilla's Revenge".
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androyus I beg to differ. I'll take any of those classics, over the overblown & out of touch Final Wars.
@@ronniepatterson2827 Meh, if I want a schlock braindead entertaining Godzilla movie, I'd prefer the movie to have more action, less kid-actors, and no stock footage or silly theme-park plot or blatant Ultraman ripoff drawn by a kid.
Two words: Ruhei Kitamura. The director didn't have a clue about what Godzilla was about. This one's on my list of least liked, least played G movies and it's for all the reasons you covered here.
Yes, he was absolutely the wrong choice for this film. Roland Emmerich got flak back in the day for ripping off Jurassic Park in the 1998 Godzilla. He's got nothing on Kitamura, though. In addition to The Matrix and X-Men, Final Wars also cribs from Star Wars and Independence Day (a thief can also be robbed). Someone at Toho must have watched Versus, which was a good movie, but did no one think to hire Shusuke Kaneko to direct Final Wars? The series would have stopped without a 50th anniversary film if not for GMK's success.
He loves the showa movies he just hates the heisei and millennium movies
@@vidwatcher30s I get you're probably talking about how Roland Emmerich "ripped off" Jurassic park, but what did independence day steal?
Edit: nvm you were talking about Roland Emmerich himself sorry
@@callmeishmael5742 Nothing, it was Independence Day that got stolen from by Final Wars. The invasion and sky battle scenes are very similar.
They should've given those 19 million to someone more experienced. Imagine Final Wars done by Kaneko for example.
An overpowerd godzilla is what help makes this fun, seeing as this was godzillas last send off, him just ripping through his enemies is just pure fun
But why bother making him superpowered if you dont give him longer fights? Those fights should have been bigger and longer, making that film a knockdown drag out Royal Rumble, but they didn't try.
@@dolomaticus1180 Just look at what they did to Hedorah or Gigan for that matter. I expect better from the two enemies that gave Godzilla a hard fought battle.
@@kairyu9207 gigan was the first monster to make Godzilla bleed but here I'm not even sure if Godzilla can bleed
Godzilla vs hedorah and ebirah should have taken like 2 or 3 minutes
I was unbelievably disappointed by FW ☹️ There was so much buildup to it as being the ultimate monster slug-fest, even bigger than DAM, especially as the 50th anniversary send-off leading into the 10-year hiatus... and what we got was the equivalent of an overblown episode of “Matrix Rangers” prominently featuring one of the worst American non-actors ever 😭
Final wars is good. It was good for one of toho’s cgi movies because toho barely makes cgi movies. But final wars is still cool.
I was disappointed that the cool, new monster wasn't really a new monster. Instead of being his own thing, Monster X was just another Ghidorah for the umpteenth time. And Ghidorah would have been fine, but I thought we were getting a new monster.
Imagine if he was super Godzilla instead,or even better BAGAN
abdullah bohamad I want Jet Jaguar,gorosaurus,MOGUEARA,ebirah,Gigan,anguirus,Baragon,Varan,Manda,Kumongu,That Whale Kaiju,the human vapor,and Son of Kong in the monsterverse
To be fair, I believe Keizer Ghidorah is meant to be a separate character from the likes of King Ghidorah himself. Not to mention that Ghidorah himself hasn't really been in that many films anyway. He's only been in one film in the Heisei and Millenium films each, for instance. I think the idea of a Ghidorah-derivative being the final opponent came from the notion that Ghidorah was to Godzilla what the Joker is to Batman. Then again, I could be wrong. That's just what I think.
@@SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMario is bagan stronger then monster X?
@@Mac14329 um Ghidorah also was in the Showa era. did your forget that?
11:12 - For me, the best giant monster films are the ones where you're invested with both the human drama and the monster action and are enjoying both sides of the even out equation. Unfortunately, this is rarely done with the monsters taking a distant back-seat to the human drama or vice versa and Final Wars falls into said trap.
What im annoyed with final wars is that they had some much monsters made during the heisei and millennial era yet they only use showa monsters
I can agree the story of Final Wars focuses less on Godzilla and more on what was trending, and I can attest that it's clunkily written. Space Godzilla, Kiryu, Biollante, King Ghidorah and other kaiju that don't appear in the film appear as bandai toys in that one scene with the kid in Canada. Not only was that scene a plugin for Bandai, but it suggests that those kaiju appeared at some points within Final Wars's own timeline as the kid remarks "that's a real anguirus," implying that he has an anguirus toy. So did humanity make toys out of the kaiju they defeated? Were there other godzillas besides FinalGoji that would make it possible for Space Godzilla and Biollante to appear as their backstories imply, unless they were rewritten?
I disagree on the suits and explosions. Being over the top is the director's style, and I love how stylish this movie is. It wears it's craziness on it's sleeve, and I love that. It's it's own brand of Godzilla movie that we'll likely never see again.
I respect but dissagree
There is a reason my circle of friends often nickname this incarnation GokuZilla
The greatest offense...they cut out Hedorah's extended fight scene and had him slaughtered like swine like everyone else...my sludge boi... *weeps* (Just kidding, but seriously; why Hedorah? Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, you beautiful pile of crap) I cannot forgive this...
Seriously even Zilla had it better than him and his entire purpose in the movie was to get killed
When you sit and think about it, the preceding film Godzilla Tokyo SoS was the more reverent film to what came before, what with the lynch pin being the original Godzilla from 1954 bones being the center of the conflict, a classic man’s hubris vs nature moral lesson, the best depiction of Mothra in years, and even loving nods to showa history with mr Chujo being the same character from Mothra.
The fight scenes were dynamic but still true to what the suit designs were capable of. Does it have its weak points? Sure, like the sidelining of Akane from GxMG and the new pilot of Kiryu really just being there with little characterization just so the protagonist can butt heads. Even with little things like that, Tokyo SoS feels much more respectable about Godzilla which was your main issue with Final wars.
While I don’t utterly despise final wars, there are a few things that don’t gel well with it. Kyle Emerson’s score is fine on its own but it sounds like it belongs on a toku tv show (like the us scores to power rangers these days)than a big send off to Godzilla. (Sum41 with the zilla fight doesn’t really make sense though I became a fan of the song) Score was one thing that Bear McCreary got right with a proper belonging of new and old, that’s something final wars really needed. It’s nice to see classic showa and heisei actors pop up in this film but it kinda feels like they only did it for some just to say they got them in. (Akira Takarada is still a delight and Kumi Mizuno did well)
The suit thing is really noticeable on King Caesar , especially when he did that wrestling jump during the Mt Fuji Battle.
I think the fighting humans thing was a reply to all the complaints about human scenes in last films just being people talking around a table or looking at a monitor or from a rooftop. (And yet that kinda happens by the end anyway) It is rather cool to see a human task force attack a lesser monster like ebirah though.
The film strives to make Michael Bay action movies look restrained. It succeeds all too well. That being said, I do still find the film to be entertaining. I just don't think it's very well-made.
100th anniversary? As if we all going to survive that long...
I’m gonna
Me too I'll probably be in my fifties.
I'm going to be honest, being a Godzilla fan living in the United States after the release of Godzilla: Final Wars and before the release of Godzilla 2014 was a pretty dark time, at least for me. Final Wars is a good movie, but even as a kid I knew that it has a lot of flaws, such as it's dumb Matrix/X-men action scenes with editing, music and lighting that reeks of early/mid 2000s and it's rushed monster fights. The fact that this was the latest Godzilla movie and the last one we will for a long time made me somewhat bitter. Not so bitter that I was angry, just unsatisfied. It's by far my least favorite Godzilla anniversary film and a not so good way to end the franchise for a decade. Hell, I'd say that Destroy All Monsters and Godzilla vs Destoroyah did a better job when it comes to "ending" the Godzilla franchise and that Tokyo S.O.S. is a better 50th anniversary film because those movies actually felt like what a Godzilla movie should be like. Final Wars feels like it was made that way because Toho felt that retiring Godzilla and celebrating his 50th anniversary is a good excuse to produce a 2-hour balls-to-the-wall edgy sci-fi fan-fiction featuring Godzilla & company written by a 12 year old who is trying to be cool and bad-ass by playing Grand Theft Auto and listening to Linkin Park. Final Wars still remains as my least favorite Millennium Godzilla film. It's not the worst Godzilla film, it's still a good movie. I like it for what it is, but I always felt that Godzilla deserved better. I just hope that Godzilla's 70th anniversary gives us a film that's not so divisive on the fandom.
And I'm still annoyed with Hedorah's cameo, but not as much as Dogora, Dagahra and Orga's cameos in Godzilla: Planet of the Monsters.
I wish they could've just done it as a War of the Monsters-esque movie, with the Earth Monsters having a war against the Alien Monsters, with six monsters on each side:
Earth Monsters:
- Godzilla
- Mothra
- Rodan
- Anguirus
- Baragon
- King Caesar
Alien Monsters:
- King Ghidorah
- Mechagodzilla 3 (Not Kiryu, but a literal Mechagodzilla 3)
- Megalon
- Gigan
- Hedorah
- Titanosaurus
I would've also had it take place between 1975 and 1999, being a prequel to Destroy All Monsters
I would be down for this 12 monster tag🤠
For constraints I'd do a 3v3 probly
Godzilla, Mothra, Rodan
Vs
Monster X, Battra(so underrated), and Gigan ^_^ oh what could've been
I just hate the fans of the movie
they think its the most powerful godzilla bc it deafted over 10 monsters by himself even though most of those monsters were weak af
I thought _exactly the same_ about this film when I saw it, all those years ago. This isn't a Godzilla film, this is an X-Men film with accidental kaiju.
you should make a video where you compare FW and King of the monsters, and how one feels more like a godzilla movie than the other
You are not going to talk about the hour of extra footage that was cut from this film? You know the one that was mostly monster fights and much needed explanation of other monsters?
Why did they cut it?
Really? Is it on youtube?
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But that makes it even worse!!! If that missing hour really had all the fights and explanations, then that is the outright indictment of the Director. He should have found a way to get some more of that in, which means all the human/Xillian fights really did mean more to him.
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I feel like Kaiju that’s should’ve been in the film: I feel like Monster X isn’t that good to appear in a Monsterverse movie or a future Godzilla Toho film like we should’ve got Megalon, Destoroyah, Spacegodzilla, Megalon, Biollante, Titanosaurus (They used stock footage but I wanted Titanosaurus to fight Godzilla) and same with other monsters like Megaguirus, Baragon and Varan and I want Battra again but I want one of these monsters I brought up instead of Monster X.
Actually, I think the 2014 Film is a better Anniversary of said Franchise than Final Wars despite Godzillas minimal Screentime (FW had that too)
We need more videos like this. Explaining what people like or don't like about films without entirely making their opinions out to be the objective way of viewing something. You made quite a few good points about this one, even if they didn't bother me quite as much.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the crack-addled acting (except for Don - he looks like he's about to slump over during his scenes). Makes The Room look like Oscar bait.
Hmm, I guess I never got the feeling that Godzilla was sidelined in the film. To me it felt more like build up, and then once Godzilla was released halfway through there seemed to be a nice balance between scenes with the human characters and Godzilla decimating the other monsters. Though I admit I first watched Final Wars with no preconceived notions, as I hadn't followed the production and thus was not hyped for it.
Eh I’ve always had mixed feelings for final wars. Its a mess but a mess with some effort put into it. The suits always did look a bit more power ranger-y in movement but I’m mostly fine with it, all the same the fights should have been longer. Like whats the point for adding all those monsters if they barely do anything?? My boy hedorah got it the worst!
Reasons why i dont like final wars fanboys:
*They think godzilla fw is strongest godzilla ever.
They think that keizer can one shot void ghidorah (what the hell)
%99 Of them are made out of salt.
They are the most toxic things i have ever seen.
Now you mention it I agree about Minilla I mean where he come from?, Why Godzilla listen to him by not kill those human characters even Godzilla didn't know he exist?, I understand why you don't like kaiju suits, I didn't know Godzilla was overpower in that film, and I didn't know that film is kinda like X-Men and Matrix.
If it makes sense to say, what if he’s lived a long time?
Honestly, this movie is what got me back into Godzilla. It kinda has a special place in my heart since it reminded me why I loved this franchise since I was three.
Funny. Out of all the movies you listed at the end, which franchise is still alive and well? And Teen Titans Go? That's a low blow!
Like this film or not you cant deny don fry is just perfect in this movie
Godzilla Final Wars rewrite
Now Godzilla Final Wars is a movie I find highly entertaining, yet incredibly flawed and I see a lot of missed potential within it, and this video has inspired me to come up with this rewrite.
But first a disclaimer before I go forward. This version takes place within the same continuity of the Kiryu saga and takes place 1 year after Tokyo S.O.S, and because of that I will be changing elements of that film, such as Kiryu still having the absolute zero Cannon intact and when Kiryu lands in the ocean with Godzilla he activates it causing a good portion of the ocean to be frozen sealing the two of them in. With that out of the way let’s begin.
We start the movie after Godzilla against Mechagodzilla where we see in between that film and Tokyo S.O.S Godzilla met a female of his species and began a relationship with her. We then cut to that rewritten ending mentioned previously and we cut to the opening credits, though this time they aren’t edited to endure a seizure.
Now a year after Godzilla is frozen we see monsters running amuck due to the absence of the king, which is what establishes the Earth Defence Force although they are just specially trained soldiers not Mutants. The only superhuman member is a robot named Jet Jaguar. As usual in the film the characters discover an ancient monster called Gigan and are told it’s origins by the Shobijin but this time with the added detail that he was accompanied by several other monsters.
Next up is when the monsters are subdued by new Kaiju (Megalon, Mogu, Hedorah, Mechagodzilla and King Ghidorah) and are seemingly teleported away by alien ships. The aliens reveal themselves as Xiliens, they also have the sudden support of politicians and they reveal their leader, a friendly monster called Keizer that can telepathically talk.
The earth defence force soon become suspicious and the events that happened in the film happen as per usual but when X kills the original leader due to getting bored with the peaceful method, he is scolded by Keizer but the monster is forced to continue with a full on invasion, releasing the captured monsters and accompanying them with their own monsters.
Captain Gordon then realises that the aliens are invading due to Godzilla’s absence and so decides to head out and free him. Before heading out the members that met the Shobijin are contacted by the fairies again to discuss the matter. Part of the conversation are people from the underwater empire Mu, who said they’d send out their guardian Manda to help them free Godzilla.
When the Gotengo reaches where the containment Godzilla is sealed in they blow up the ice imprisonment but are attacked by Gigan. Manda later appears and gets Godzilla out of the webbing and then using his supernatural powers wakes Godzilla up. After which Godzilla blasts Gigan out of the sky, to which Manda drags Gigan underwater and then summons other sea monsters to drag the cyborg further down. After that, Manda and the Gotengo guide Godzilla to each monster rampage. We next cut to the female Godzilla from earlier, sensing her mate is free and with her child she sets off to find him.
Godzilla and Manda arrive in Sydney to take on Zilla and Mogu. They easily dispatch Zilla but don’t kill him. Mogu proves to be more of a challenge, but Manda coils around him and causes Mogu to fly away. Manda then signals to Godzilla to move due to the sea Dragon’s wounds from Gigan and Mogu. Godzilla moves into Paris to take on Megalon and three original monsters (let the creative team go wild on this.). But this time the cyborg bug and his team mates proves to be a challenge. Because of this Jet Jaguar leaves the Gotengo, grows to giant size and helps Godzilla to drive Megalon and the other monsters away.
Next up is Okinawa, which is being attacked by Anguirus, Rodan and Baragon. The 3 are being led by Mechagodzilla and because of this rampage the royal family have awakened their protecter King Caesar to combat the beasts. Godzilla and Jet Jaguar arrive to assist the guardian, and after a difficult battle the 3 organic monsters are knocked out and Mechagodzilla is driven away. But after this, Godzilla needs a take a break before moving forward due to his new bruises and Jet needs to return to the Gotengo for repairs. Caesar however decides to stay in Okinawa to help clean up the damages done to the city.
After a while the Gotengo reaches the Xilien mothership, but after disabling the shield the crew are taken hostage by the Xiliens, all expect Jet who is hidden in the repair room. We next cut to a underwater fight with Godzilla taking on Titanosaurus and Hedorah with Manda back in the picture. This time Manda can’t use his powers to command Titanosaurus due to the mind control, but eventually they manage to knock out Titanosaurus and blast Hedorah out of the ocean.
The Xiliens and Keizer (telepathically) then explain that Keizer recruited the Xiliens from a dying world and promised them earth and it’s dominant species as cattle in exchange of undying loyalty to him. But in order to survive fully in earth’s atmosphere (which is why they are the form of human) they will use King Ghidorah to power their mothership to to change the earth’s atmosphere more to their liking, which while humans will survive in the environment and all other animals won’t.
Godzilla and Manda however arrive to confront King Ghidorah, and so to help the 3 headed dragon with his goal Keizer descends to fight the two earth Kaiju. When seeing Keizer motion toward Ghidorah, the humans notice the two seem close. However Keizer effortlessly knocks Godzilla and Manda to the ground and then summons his previous monsters, Gigan, Mogu, Megalon, Mechagodzilla, Hedorah and and those three original monsters.
Everything seems hopeless until Jet contacts the humans saying he previously hacked into the mind function in the movie ship and disabled it. They are then contacted by the Shobijin who let them know the Mothra twins are coming with a great surprise. The Mothra twins arrive with not only King Caesar but also the now freed Anguirus, Rodan, Baragon and Zilla. It becomes apparent that the two giant Moths helped guide the confused monsters to get back at their enslavers, as well as convincing King Caesar to help protect the rest of the earth. Not only that but the rest of the Earth Defense Force comes in to attack the alien mothership.
So we don’t only focus on the humans vs the Xiliens but also a very well made battle against the two monster teams with each member adding something special to their team. Titanosaurus even enters the battle as the wild card, but this time Manda can control him to attack the opposing side. Eventually humans defeat the Xiliens, destroy their mothership and the all of the space monsters are killed with the exception of Keizer and King Ghidorah. All of the earth monsters are exhausted and lie on the ground to take a rest, but Godzilla keeps his eye on the two remaining enemies.
Realising his power is held by back and understanding the cost of what he’s about to do Keizer seems to apologise towards King Ghidorah who is frightened yet understanding what his master is about to. Keizer then transforms into a Ghidorah himself, now appearing to be much more animalistic with only King Ghidorah getting him to focus on their targets. This is when the humans realise King Ghidorah is Keizer’s son and Keizer created his humanoid form to be more in control of himself even if it would reduce power.
Keizer then overwhelms Godzilla, King attacking any monsters trying to help him. Keizer then begins to take Godzilla’s life force so then the humans like in the original movie decide to give Godzilla energy to fight back. Godzilla then begins to fight back, inspiring the other monsters to rise back up and assist in battling the Ghidorahs. They eventually help Godzilla in throwing the two into the air and all monsters with a beam attack blast the space dragons out of earth and into the sun.
Godzilla then turns to the humans on the ground, still wanting to settle a score. But suddenly Godzilla spots his mate to which he hasn’t in a year and stops even further when he notices a little Godzilla next to her. Despite being very emotional, Godzilla starts to go further with his war on humanity, but the baby Godzilla, Minilla gets in the way begging his father to stop, even local children come in and get in the way of the human army, begging the same thing.
Godzilla then looks at his mate, and she just gives a look asking him to do what will make their son happy. Godzilla then decides to turns away and leave his grudge against humanity. As he turns he notices the earth monsters marvelling at him, now feeling respect toward him, rather than fear. They then decide to follow Godzilla and his family as their allies. Before going into the ocean Godzilla motions towards Manda, the Mothra twins, King Caesar and Jet Jaguar, giving his respect to them. The humans then just stand there, marvelling at what an amazing creature Godzilla is and realising that earth is safer with him as opposed without him.
So what do you all think of this?
I'm 3 years late but that's a far better story.
I agree with every point in this video, but I wholeheartedly agree with #2 the most. I simply do not like characters being overpowered at all, not just Godzilla but everything in general, it's a cheap cop-out, it only brings up a lotta questions, and it removes all sense of drama and suspense. If you're gonna overpower yer character, it should be the max limit and it should only be a very rare, one time occurrence (maybe twice or thrice), not something they can willingly do all the time, and should only be when delivering a final blow, which is why I love how Burning Godzilla was done in KOTM.
Don't know 'bout you, but I prefer "nerfing" characters if it means I get to cheer for them more when they overcome their weaknesses, and Godzilla's power level should only be limited to his own strength and breath, nuclear pulse be used rarely, and Burning Godzilla or any OP ability should be ultra rare, circumstantial, & out of his control.
but people make fun off legendary because he's fat, slow and weak. so thats why people love godzilla 2004
@@Godzilla-jr5gi Legendary Godzilla is the second most muscular incarnation of the character, he is also extremely fast, and one of the stronger ones out there.
Final Wars felt like a TV movie. It felt like an Ultraman or Kamen Rider movie, NOT a Godzilla movie. As mentioned the suits look cheap and rushed, and the fights don't do anything to push or make the monsters you remember from your childhood in any way a threat. They're all fodder and the fights have no tension buildup or drama to them. It didn't feel like a love letter or celebration, it was just Godzilla destroying everyone, which may sound good, except many of these kaiju fought alongside Godzilla and were fan favorites, and watching them get massacred wasn't enjoyable, and then the main villain just being Ghidorah instead of something original was also a letdown.
I like it in the same way I like Godzilla Tri Star, it's a fine kaiju movie but it isn't a good GODZILLA movie
There's a shot in this movie that illustrates your point perfectly. During the final battle, Godzilla and Monster-X are on a monitor in the background while the Human hero and Alien villain are fighting in the foreground. The camera even zooms in on the monsters as if saying "this movie is totally about the kaiju. Seriously." Also, even as a kid watching this film, I never bought how Godzilla took the hit from the meteor. He should have been knocked off his feet at the very least. And I always did have issues with Mothra's portrayal. I think this may be her weakest depiction on film ever. Her ancient rivalry with Gigan suggests she can stand up to him, so to speak, but Gigan gets a temporary victory against her faster than Godzilla did against him. Speaking of that fight, was Gigan expecting his built-in buzz-saw to cut Godzilla in half or something? I still think this film is entertaining, and I love the Godzilla design and its King of the Monsters track, but overall I'd still say it's easily in the list of top 10 worst Godzilla films. So much for the 50th year of Godzilla. At least year 60 was great.
That shot's actually in this video.
Hey Raptor, what's your opinion on 2019's King of the Monsters do you see it as a good 65th anniversary for Godzilla?
I disagree, the movie clearly celebrates Godzilla. If anything, it feels like what every kid watching showa era Godzilla dreams of. Godzilla is unstoppable, fighting all these cool past monsters, he has an anime power up and blows up a meteor. Gigan is in the movie because the diractor loved him as a kid. This is the director doing his own style of Godzilla movie and he acts like he was handed a box of toys and just goes wild with it.
Titanus Leviathan nah, KOTM definitely understands Godzilla way better lmao
Titanus Leviathan The anime trilogy blatantly ignores Godzilla’s history,favoring its own new ideas for the monsters.
King of the Monsters embraces each of the Kaiju’s origins and abilities keeping them very similar to the original films wether that be Rodan emerging out of a volcano, King Ghidorah’s extraterrestrial roots, or Mothra being worshipped(at least in ancient times) as a goddess. Any changes made in their redesigns feel pretty natural like Ghidorah’s rattle snake like tail or Mothra having a stinger. Godzilla got a much deserved redesign with more Classic Dorsal plates and claws on his feet rather than the more sauropod like ones.
Titanus Leviathan I mean not that changing things up for the Kaiju is bad but King of the Monsters for the most part works each of these into the story. King Ghidorah being an invasive alien that dethroned Godzilla as the apex and Godzilla having to defeat him and reclaim the throne, or Rodan being the first titan to emerge only then to bow to Ghidorah. Idk I personally absolutely love the film but to each their own.
@Titanus Leviathan for the most part king of monsters does has a good understanding of Godzilla and probably even better then final wars since final wars is mostly focused on new trends like the matrix and human fighting instead of the monsters and is pretty all over the place
@Titanus Leviathan i agree with you that being accurate doesn't always make something good. For me personally I thinks final wars is really ok but it does sort suffer since it is supposed to be the 50th anniversary.
Justice for Hedorah. For being one of if not Godzilla’s strongest/ deadliest foes. And was wasted completely
The biggest problem with Final Wars is the director, Ryuhei Kitamura. Every choice he makes in this movie is wrong. Its like when Ron Howard directed How the Grinch Stole Christmas; both men are talented directors, but in both cases, they were making movies that they were hopelessly ill-equipped to make, and it shows (though, with Kitamura, when I originally watched this movie, I couldn't escape the feeling that Kitamura actively hated Godzilla, and was constantly snubbing the daikaiju genre as a whole by downplaying ALL of the kaiju action for the boring-in-2004-even-worse-in-2020 Matrix-style nonsense). This movie just... hurts my heart.
I'll be honest here the biggest thing that bothers me about the film were the suit designs (some of them that is)
Kumonga - looked perfect basically a modernized version of the original design.
Manda - loved his design but it was hard to see in a lot of shots.
Gigan - They did him so much justice, however his upgrade wasn't that good the double Chainsaw hands made him look too unbalanced and the extra large horn on his head looked gaudy. If they just gave him one chainsaw each arm I would've liked it a bit more.
Kamacuras - While I like the insect look to him he looked a little too much like the Meganulon from Godzilla vs. Megaguirus.
Ebirah - his design as a whole looks great my only issue with him was the head looked too small.
Mothra - they just reused the prop from the Previous film so I really have nothing to say about it.
Minilla - I know that they were trying to recapture his look in the 60s but it just looks dull to me I was hoping if they had to bring him in couldn't they just had him look like Baby Godzilla from the Heisei series?
King Ceasar - They fucked up Royal with this one (and the others coming up) I get that the original version looked cornball then again you could say that about everyone else's designs from the Showa series. His design here made him look like a Deranged muppet.
Anguirus - I hate this design. The tail, and armored plating on his shoulders and legs I'll give a pass but every thing else looked so damned ugly preferably in the face!
Rodan - while do dig the coloration and the face. The horns on his head and his wings could've used more detail on them, his tail just looks nonexistent and the legs look like they belong on Cretaceous Ghidorah.
Kaiser Ghidorah - Oh God this design. His skin looks like burnt Bok Choy, his tails look like twin turds hanging out of his anus, his wings look laughably small and usless, he looks like a rushed suit job.
Godzilla - out of all of Godzilla's designs this for me was the worst one, he looks like oversized rat on steroids here.
But if anyone likes these designs more power to you
They just aren't my favorites
You forgot hedorah and monster x
@@joshuacelani1857 Hedorah - looks like a moldy humanoid pickle
Monster X - is actually a good new Monster (save his transformation)
Godzilla - I like the design but I kinda agree with you on the face. But MY main take away about it are the dorsal fins being small compared to previous versions. I know they were trying to go for sleek design that would suit his fighting style but I can see where you're coming from.
Manda - Good design and I'll also agree on not getting a good look at it when he appears in the movie.
Gigan - I'm one of the very few people who prefer the Showa design over Final Wars. There's nothing wrong with it except for the fact that they went a bit over the top with all the blades.
Rodan - Probably my favorite Rodan design due to he color scheme and I love what they did to the legs since it does justice by adding those "pads" to them along with the chest and abdomen since the original Rodan had something similar along his legs if you look closely while watching stock footage of the Showa era.
Anguirus - His design was pretty cool especially the extra armor plating to give more of a feel as to being a mutated armored dinosaur.
Ebirah - Not expecting much since he's just a big ass lobster lmao
Minilla - All I can say is that he isn't as ugly as his Showa variant but his overall look is passable.
Zilla - Well he's Zilla, which is actually a cool design but as his own kaiju and not a Godzilla.
Kumonga - I agree with your point
Kamacuras - It's probably just the wings where I can make the comparison with the Meganulon from 2000
King Caesar - I agree, they did him dirty in this film especially with he random patches of skin along his arms and legs
Hedorah - It's okay but my main issues is that he doesn't have enough smog/sludge to cover a majority of his body like the OG.
Mothra - I know that they reused the same puppet form Tokyo SOS and changed the color scheme on her wings, but that cannot stop me from calling her my favorite Mothra design. She has the right amount of fluff on her body to resemble a moth unlike that abomination of a stuffed animal known as Heisei Mothra. I also like how the legs are more insect-like which is another category where Heisei Mothra fucked up in and in a way gave me light towards appreciating Legendary's take on her design.
Monster X - Easily my favorite design to come out of this film. The grey portions of his body that resemble of a skeleton and those red eyes make him seem pretty menacing and what a true bringer of chaos and final opponent of Godzilla should look like. Not only to mention the double tails and two heads that rest on his shoulders that foreshadow what (sadly) comes next.
Keizer Ghidorah - Ladies and Gentlemen... this is the WORST King Ghidorah redesign to have ever set foot on screen. Forget GMK, forget Cretaceous, forget the Anime noodles, this right here is nothing more than a rushed suit job. I hate how half of his body is gold and half of it is black like make up your fucking mind already on what color he should be! I don't really have anything against a quadrapedal Ghidorah (Desghidorah is fine I guess) but his torso and legs look like a donkey's and if his wings are so small to the point where he clearly can't lift himself off from the ground, they why even bother giving him any? Such a complete downgrade from Monster X and a waste of Ghidorah.
@@Matkaizer08 Zilla should how awful his CGI looks be discounted on the chance that it was intentional
Quite honestly I never liked it to much,
1: the battles where way too short each monster deserved better than that
2: the suits where terrible
3: I felt Minnilla was out of place for sure but worse then that Monster X never got a proper name and he looked and felt more like a Power Ranger villain than a Godzilla monster.
Now I agree with you on many of these points, it's still a fun movie with awesome looking kaiju and while not super in depth characters they are still fun and entertaining
I enjoy aspects of Final Wars and I can understand why some fans like it, but I find half the film to be a chore to get through. Some fans compare King of the Monsters 2019 to Final Wars a lot (and not usually in a flattering way) but honestly I find the former superior to the latter. It wasn't perfect of course but unlike Final Wars it at least focused on the monsters as the subject of the film and it at least explained almost (and I stress almost) everything it showed off that was important, as opposed to Final Wars which threw around comic book terms nobody will remember in 5 seconds and not explain most of what it brings up well enough.
Titanus Leviathan Well I doubt that any ideas that any one individual would bring up would actually ever fully change your view on the two films. Not that’s really much of problem sense at the end of the day every one has their own opinion on everything.
STEVE LE Well Rodan and Mothra did at least get their moments, Rodan got a big scene with the Jets. And well Mothra got a good bit of the final fight.
@Titanus Leviathan I like Final wars more but I don't think it's a better movie if I'm critiquing both films
Point one is spot-on; that's why I didn't even buy Final Wars. It is one of the two Godzilla films I don't own, on purpose.
What's the other movie?
I don't thing FinalGoji is THAT powerful. He's not the toughest or strongest Godzilla incarnation. The fight scenes were quick because Toho didn't have the budget to get those fights well made, they just want to get the movie done. Final Wars wasn't perfect. But it's still my favorite of the Millennium. I always love Gigan's design, I thought Monster X was cool, and I adore Godzilla's design more than any Millennium designs...even though it's not my favorite, I do prefer the Heisei and MonsterVerse designs more. Final Wars does have huge problems I see, I still don't know why is Minilla in the movie, I don't think Keizer Ghidorah is THAT tough compared to a few others like MonsterVerse Ghidorah or Destoroyah, Godzilla is not the toughest at all, why is Gigan weak compared to his Showa counterpart, why was Hedorah just there, I don't know. It's just a cheesier version of Destroy All Monsters. Similar to how I say KOTM is a darker version of Ghidorah: The Three Headed Monster.
I agree
Agreed
I actually think Keizer Ghidorah is stronger than Monsterverse King Ghidorah and Destroyah.
@@jmarcopulos5265 He sure is stronger than Destoroyah, but MonsterVerse King Ghidorah is actually stronger than Keizer Ghidorah. He's just too powerful, he can regenerate, Keizer lacked the regeneration, he can now shoot gravity beams from his wings. Keizer Ghidorah only has gravity beams that can only lift his opponents. Both can suck on Godzilla's energy. Still, MonsterVerse is now the toughest King Ghidorah we got, without counting the Anime. Weakest Ghidorah, GMK, aka the worst Ghidorah we got.
Well maybe they would have had the budget if they didn't spend all of it on matrix knock off scenes
I see your points. I still enjoy Final Wars, for the mere spectacle. But when you watch it more thoroughly its shortcomings become visible.
what i like about final wars is that it is a fun to watch movie and despite the short screen time, the brief monster action moments were very entertaining.
Dude.....you just made me realize so much.....
Godzilla Final Wars isn't one of my top favourite Godzilla movies but its better than that dreadful Day of the Doctor movie because that sucked! Lord do I hate that dr who 50th anniversary special so much! It was a complete waste of my time and to make matters! Everybody said that I was excited for it which wasn't true! (breathing heavily) got to calm down, sorry about that.
While I admit I like Godzilla Final Wars, I agree with you on the overpowered Godzilla. Design wise, he's unique and I like it, but seeing him defeat enemy after enemy without breaking a sweat, which I liked when I was younger but now, it's too much on Godzilla's part and not enough on the others. It's a real shame. 😔
One of the biggest things that holds the film back is definitely the kaiju action, especially the 'Godzilla vs [insert kaiju name(s)]' All of the kaiju fights should have been their own mini-movie within the movie.
For example, the Godzilla vs Zilla '98 fight should have been exactly like the fight in the Godzilla: Rulers of Earth comic {Minus the attack choppers and Zilla getting away} (Dangerville: When Godzilla FACED OFF Against Zilla! (MONSTER BATTLE)
: th-cam.com/video/5zfLnmR5c1g/w-d-xo.html).
I have to admit every time I see this film I like it less
Fuck you bitch 👎🤬 I like the movie
I didnt care for this movie either
I like it more every time I see this film
@@sadianadeem7222 Ever heard of a opinion?
U must have loved it when u first saw them
And the battles looked like mascots just doing boxing matches tho witch is cool
*Wait that's Illegal*
And yet.... I still love this movie. Thanks for the review tho! While I completely disagree with you, I appreciate you aren't one of those people who feels they have to fanboy over this movie because hey a lot of big godzilla tubers love it. I genuinely like this review and your opinion on my 8th favorite G-Film does nothing to stop loving your content!
Almost disliked when you said the first Matrix was the last good film the wachoski's ever did cause *SPEED RACER IS RIGHT THERE COME ON*
Thank you! Yes, Speed Racer is an awesome movie and we're two of the five or so people on the internet who know it.
Godzilla Final Wars is awesome
Yes! YES! I could not agree more with the number 1 reason. I for the longest time felt like the only one who sees this.
Excellent. I may not always agree with omni viewer but I respect that he made this despite what others may say
Will we even around when the 100th anniversary of Godzilla happens? Also you have very good and understandable reasons for not liking this movie of which I agree. So let's hope they don't blow it with the 100th.
I will
Holy shit, they have long necks
Godzilla final wars is my favorite Godzilla movie lol
The main reason I didn't like FW was that it felt more like a Japanese action movie that just happened to have Godzilla in it. Like these people were making an action movie and almost done and were all: "OH SHIT, THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE GODZILLA IN THIS!"
this man is like twitter, "im going to juge someone on the actions they made over 4 years ago"
The 2 things I hate about Godzilla final wars is the villains and the mutants. I just hate the villain and the mutant thing was just weird and stupid
But I love the kaiju fights
It's a bad movie, but it's one saving grace is Don Frye.
Don Frye is indeed The Man. It's not often that a gaijin actor plays my favorite character in a Japanese film. He should have become an action star.
I think the explination for why Godzilla is having trouble with Monster X is simply because...
Well, Monster X is just stronger than the other Kaiju
Or what I thought when I rewatched it years later: Cause he is final boss, like a game villain.
I didn't like *Godzilla Final Wars* when it first came out. I saw it twice in the theater in Japan because I tried to make myself like it at the time. Over the years, however, it's grown on me. I like the movie now. But I still completely agree with every point in this video! Basically now, I just turn my brain "off" for the film. But when my brain is "on" I agree with everything you said.
I think Ryuhei Kitamura had the same opinion of Godzilla as Roland Emmerich.
Maybe this was movie was a foreshadowing to what the anime would truly be.
What I never understood is that if the mutants were made out of Gigan’s dna,why don’t they look like him?
Sonic Xtreme99 Probably just took part of the Gigan’s DNA that didn’t contribute to his appearance, kinda the same logic behind the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park having frog DNA but not looking anything like a frog.
Brandon Davis part?Weird
I didn't like the suits either, I just didn't think about this way, but thought "I don't like how thin Godzilla is in this".
Minilla was always a "plot hole" in the original films
we can just assume he's related to and knew Godzilla at some point and his goal is to meat up with him because he got lost, its not super blatant about it but its implied
"Is it because Monster X has an extra edge the other Kaijus don't?"
Well, he kind of has. Monster X looks like an edgy Deviantart OC.
This and Godzilla Kotm are my favs
I was just wondering when Godzilla was going to show up in this movie as I'm watching for the first time with my mom. Comet's doing a Godzilla movie marathon for 4th of July weekend.
Hey Omni what was your thoughts on X, the films main villain? He's over the top but is at least memorable. Also I still think 2014 and King of the Monsters are definitely better aniversry films.
better aniversery films WHAT!?
@@Godzilla-jr5gi at least its arguably better in quality, in some areas.
Whoever is glad that things went the way they did with Godzilla '98 being made instead of the Debont film is out of their goddamn minds.
This is awesome! Please more video reviews of Godzilla movies!!
I do see your #1 for myself when I watch Final wars, but this feels a lot like how I feel about Michael Bay's transformers movies.
Final wars Godzilla looks like a freaking goblin with those giant ears and people call him strong because he throws kaijus around like wth man that doesn’t mean anything. Right? I agree 100% with this video !👍
Especially Number #2 7:24
I can’t say much I don’t like disagree with you but totally I never saw a film so you know what he was also can’t be any worse than than Godzilla with the fish film where are the damn fish where are the damn versus Messi Rodrick film so maybe lay off it
14:19
* Cries in Speed Racer *
This should be good
Well here's my rant on your review Omni..
5. Minilla. Where do I start with this, first this is a stupid argument. You must be biased for Minilla becaue saying Minilla is a big problem is like saying the dog from the Meg is a major problem, this makes no sense to include a side character to a major problem.
4. The suits. First, they don't look like they're men in suits, every Godzilla movie has the illusion that they are actually there and are not men in suits. From what I'm hearing, you're saying that you are hating on this movie because you're trying to find 5 reasons why you don't like it. Also, the slimmer Kaiju suits don't look THAT bad. The slimmer suits make the person who is playing inside of them move better and not have to take a break every 5 minutes.
3. The assault on the senses. Ok, so I do agree that the movie is loud and bright but this was chosen because it looks cool and you can hear better (Ok maybe not hear better but you know what I mean). Now if your epileptic than you should look away I've talked to many people who like FW and they said they have no problem with it, maybe you don't like flashy lights and loud noises personally but a lot of other people do.
2. Overpowered Godzilla. Godzilla being overpowered adds to the fun of the movie, watching Godzilla destroy all the other monsters is fun to watch and have a good laugh at. Also, Finalgoji isn't that powerful. There are much stronger Godzilla's out there that would eat him for breakfast.
1. The attitude towards Godzilla. Good god where do I start, first you're completely ignoring the fact the complete second act of the movie is devoted towards releasing and luring Godzilla to fight all the other monsters. The third act sure is devoted to destroying the mothership but Godzilla is still there in the background doing something, you seem to forget that even though Godzilla 2014 did that too and you have no problem with that. In the mothership scene, you said that the movie completely ignores Godzilla and focuses on the human characters, this is so wrong that it's funny. During the battles with the Xiliens and the mutants, Godzilla and Monster X appear in some scenes showing how the fight between the mutants and Xileins connect to the battle with Monster X and Godzilla, so they didn't forget about Godzilla at all. You want a movie that completely forgets Godzilla and the other monsters? Look no further than Destroy all monsters. This movie treats Godzilla exactly the same as any other G movie does.
"Out of all the 50th anniversary specials there are this one is the worst." You have to be sarcastic right? Considering after that you show other 50th anniversary movies that are all terrible. This movie is one of the best if not the best because it treats Godzilla very well, either you completely forgot about the movie or you just hate it that much.
"And Godzilla got an X-Men movie." No he did not by any means, sure they did rip off some of the X-Men movies but at least this one's good. Godzilla was featured very prominently in this movie that you seem to forget during this review.
I agree with you, what you said is completely correct.
This Omni Viewer is acting stupid and he is spitting nonsense.
Final Wars is an amazing movie.
@@naemarcial6877 Actors are cringe except gorgen SHORT FIGHTS
Also why would you bother Godzilla being so powerful? He will be able to kill EVERYTHING
The Titans DON'T EVEN STAND A CHANCE AGAINST GODZILLA SO THE FIGHTS ARE SHORT
They use rubber suits so its less money but INSTEAD THEY PUT KUNG FU FIGHTS
Goji: you couldn’t live with your own mistakes. Where did that bring you?...... back to me
According to your information Omni, if you don't want it to happen again, then maybe film directors don't need to revisit this movie, while they're making a Godzilla movie.
God he's right, it hurts but he's right
Sorry to tell you, but the truth hurts. I don't mean to sound insulting but it does.
I respect your opinion After looking back on the movie the movie didn’t really age that well a little bit and I only love you because of nostalgic reason because I really loved watching it when I was a kid because I used to cheer me up when I was in a dark times but I can see your reasonings I do agree that the designs of the suits could be a little bit better the story could’ve been a little bit more mature but other than that this movie is pretty good it’s not the best Godzilla movie but I love it and appreciate it because it is my first Godzilla movie ever watching the first impression of Godzilla was great so I appreciate this movie but I can see your reasoning for not liking it and I have some problems with the movie is not perfect
I think Godzilla: Final Wars is one of the best, I have it ranked tied with Godzilla 2000 for best of Millennial Era. My opinion on Omni's reasons...
5: Fair argument
4: True statement, but the director was looking for something different... in this case, he wanted the kaiju to engage in some martial arts... as crazy as it sounds.
3: I think the director was looking for something 'loud'... so it comes down to preference...
2: Overpowered... this is literally my favorite aspect of this movie... I wanted an overpowered Godzilla for once!!! (GMK notwithstanding)
1: I agree somewhat about attitude... I didn't love the Matrix and X-Men stuff for a final movie of era... but it DID have Don Frye...
MOMSTER aka that early 2000 super edgy badass character that seemed more common during those time.