I was never disappointed with the end. It made sense to me, the main enemy had been destroyed but the threat of the gyaos remains. The threat of the gyaos and monsters of its ilk would always be around, and no matter how battered and wounded and tired gamera was he would always stand against him. The ending was just showing him getting back to work.
This is why I instantly forgave The Avengers for the abrupt stop of the fight once the portal was sealed. We already received our spectacle, another half an hour of spectacle with no narrative purpose wouldn't make the film any better... and would almost certainly diminish the film.
Gyaos Will not intimidate you so you're saying a big big giant man eating bat monster that is capable of shooting Giant rays let's see who is intimidated when a giant bat is flying at you at mac 4 and it's gonna eat you
Kaneko actually said in a 2002 interview he would have made a Gamera 4 had 3 grossed a billion yen at the box office. That being said, this was an interesting interpretation.
Yet I did noticed something I am pretty sure that gamera 4 film would have been connected with the Unmade gamera and Godzilla 2000 crossover.Yet I found out that the gamera movie yen was 600k and the yen from Godzilla 2000 millinium was 1 billion as long with the other millinium film I guess this is the reason why he did call off maybe because toho said no? the directors made this topic incase of this I may be wrong.
Also you might be saying why 1999 film that’s because gamera 3 came out the same year as Godzilla 2000 it’s not millinium era for gamera it was still, Hesei era godzilla in the other hand it’s his millinium era.
Very interesting analysis. And actually, the creator HAS stated that this was indeed his intention: there is no intended ambiguity, Gamera wins...but the audience has to BELIEVE he won. They have to have FAITH in the fact he won. So yes, you're exactly right.
The cliffhanger to me I got the impression that there will always be something out there to harm the planet. But Gamera will be there to fight it no matter what. My issue was also I felt the film should have showed Gamera charging at the swarm or at least charging a beam as they approached. But that was just how i felt would have better fit what I thought they were going for.
I just saw the Heisei Gamera Trilogy in full back to back for the first time tonight and it was amazing! Watching them all back to back I really did see the themes of faith throughout them! And after everything I also believe that Gamera won, that he is really neat, and full of turtle meat!
I did loved the ending of this movie because it's impact could influence future movies, like how gamera the Brave opens up with a swarm of gyaos and gamera exploding, or the proof of concept trailer where the gyaos destroy the city and gamera fights them, only 1 kid survives the destruction. Maybe in the future DAEI will make something from the concept.
The answer is simple, having Gamera fight a bunch of Gyaos after almost everything else being concluded will make it feel out of place. It doesn’t really matter what the outcome of the fight would be. We know that Gamera will fight for us even though we’ve done him wrong. Having him destroy all the Gyaos becomes pointless. I saw this as a great ending even on my first viewing.
The ending is perfect, the film isn't left on a cliffhanger or incomplete- it's thematically complete, almost everything has come full circle. I always read it as Gamera winning the battle, but ultimately losing the war. To me, Gamera 3 is an end-of-the-world film.
That's how I've always viewed this film, though wither the world actually ends is ambigious to me. I did hear a rumor that there was going to be an end credits scene showing Gamera still battling the endless flocks of Gyaos even after the world is dead and humanity is extinct via the Gyaos, but that's just a rumor.
@@theunpopularopinion9833 Well, it's not a rumor, but it's also not how the movie was meant to end. That is absolutely how Shinji Higuchi wanted the film to end, but it was antithetical to what Shusuke Kaneko was going for with the film and he wouldn't allow its inclusion and as a result, it drove the wedge between Kaneko and Higuchi that killed their working relationship.
I always thought the Gamera trilogy ended the way it did was to end the trilogy, but leave the franchise open to continuation. A continuation that still hasn't happened.
I still haven't seen Gamera 3 in its entirety and only knew about the ending because I didn't care about spoilers when I was younger. But anyways, I like how this film ended. I never liked cliffhangers because they always tease the viewers, but this one is an exception. Great video.
OV how would you compare the heisei gamera trilogy to other trilogies like the dark knight trilogy, original star wars trilogy, The lord of the rings trilogy and the reboot planet of the apes trilogy?
That's like comparing apples to oranges, other than there being three films there's no real comparison, and if that's all the criteria you need to go on you may be taking a slightly narrow view on the films actual content.
Before I start, I LOVE the trilogy and believe its almost better than Godzilla in many ways. I loved the Iris movie while my brother didn't. The difference, I am a believer and he is not. So for me, Gamera won and saved the world, and my brother disagrees and believes the world ends. So you analysis is perfect!
Wow, that is a truly great explanation! I am guilty of taking the movies individually, instead of threading the overarching theme throughout. Very, very well done, sir!
I have always wanted to watch the Gamera trilogy, that ending does seem slightly disappointing but it still is very interesting. I still do hope to one day watch the full trilogy
For me, it was the theme of Duty that made that ending 100% work for me. You had the cop who stopped running from his sense of duty and the soldier who refused to flee from his duty. So when Gamera is facing down what seems like impossible odds, he does the only thing he can: his duty. By not showing the battle, it's the uncertainty that makes it work so well. He could win, he could die in victory, he could die in noble defeat, or lose the battle and live to fight another day. To show the battle would rob the moment of its uncertainty, because we'd only remember the victory, not the courage in the face of an uncertain fate. Just a brilliant conclusion, although G2 is the more enjoyable, but mostly because it doesn't ask difficult questions.
I think the director of the movie himself said that Gamera does defeat the Gyaos swarm but doesn't say how. My problem with Gamera 3 wasn't the ending but the final fight with Iris. The Gamera/Iris dogfight is amazing but the actual fight on the ground is extremely anti-climactic, especially in comparison to the final showdowns in the previous two films. That being said, Gamera 3 is still way better than most of the Heisei Godzilla movies and Godzilla's my boy for life.
The final fight with Gamera and Irys is like that because Kaneko and Higuchi shot their footage from two different drafts of the screenplay and as a result, they had to take what each had shot and try to make it work in some semblance of unity. This is why whatever the hell is going on with Asakura dying doesn't work at all because that was the best they could do in the editing.
There's one little known fact about Kaneko's Gamera trilogy that I only learned recently. Someone linked me to a written interview in which Kaneko confirmed that within the universe of his films, turtles and tortoises as we know them never existed at all. Granted, the person who gave me the link may have interpreted the article wrong. Not to mention I hadn't bothered to read the whole thing. I was watching a livestream of Gamera 1 and didn't wanna fall behind in the chat, so I took their word for it. Either way, if this is true and Heisei Gamera stands alone as the only known species of turtle in his reality, then that's....pretty stupid. He's already 80 meters tall, spits plasma and flies! You don't need to go to such extremes to make him even more special! That's like making a werewolf movie in which the genus Canis never broke off from the order of Carnivoria, and therefore Canis Lupus never evolved! If that's a bit too abstract for you, I've got one better: Image if George Romero and Jon Russo's final screenplay for Night of the Living Dead took place in a world of immortals who spent the movie confused over why people's vital functions were ceasing! All so that the concept of the zombie would seem even more fantastic than it already had within the film's narrative!
Lycan Seijin The wolf one was a better comparison as that uses something people can relate to the real world since werewolfs are an extension of real life wolfs. The zombie thing that because you put in a fantastical setting you have no choice but to focus heavily on how this is unique from the norm.
Lycan Seijin I don’t know about that I mean it is slightly redundant but then again it makes the scene where two of the characters look at an image of a mythical turtle with the snake wrapped around it.(Forgot it’s name) I kinda see it as a way of showing how Gamera is ancient and very mythical, at least that’s how I see it.
Brandon Davis But even mythical beasts are somewhat rooted in the modern animal kingdom. Dragons are essentially enormous carnivorous lizards. Shisas, or "Fu Dogs", are a cross between lions and Shar-Peis, the Minotaur of Greek mythology has the head of a bull. The crafters of these old legends didn't have to make up a world where familiar animals didn't exist. They had the brains to realize that these beasts were fantastic and horrible enough to stand on their own, and they have stood on their own for millennia! No one in their right mind would make a Dracula movie set in a world where bats don't exist, because that would be pants shitting retarded and add nothing to the story. You don't need to make Gamera seem more mythical by erasing all terrapins from existence! It's pretentious tosh!!!
I had no problem with the ending of "Gamera 3". It was the monster Iris, that I did NOT find very intriguing. The story would have been better severed, if it concentrated on the much more interesting Gyaos (and its swarm).
I've a similar sentiment. My biggest issue with Gamera 3 is that final fight between Gamera and Iris was rather boring, especially compared to climaxes of the previous two movies.
Coincidentally, Pokémon Sword & Shield introduced Gigantamax, which not only turns Pokémon kaiju-sized but also changes its appearance. One of the Pokémon, a quadruped turtle named Drednaw, has Gigantamax form that makes it stand upright to be more like Gamera, who is the main topic of this video.
Having just seen it, I thought that it was a pretty cool ending. The implication that Gamera is going to fight all the Gyaos was cool and I thought the final title “The Absolute Guardian of the Universe: Gamera” was really cool.
Might be worth noting that the writer, producer (or maybe sfx designer, I forget), director, and music composer, were promoted with the nickname "the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse". This was also how they were promoted when they contributed GMK to the Millennium series.
it's sad that Gamera never got the respect he deserved. While i was a G-fan in my youth and still am to this day, I always considered Gamera to be a worthy Kaiju to be considered a rival if not equal to Godzilla. Hopefully a Legendary will be able to find a loophole that will allow them to have Gamera be brought into the Monsterverse. and if not hopefully Toho won't be so stubborn when it comes to their license with Gamera and actually bring him into their company and give him a proper reboot.
While the deconstruction of the Heisei films is appreciated, it misses the point as to why audiences were left disappointed - there was no Gamera 4 (that "The Truth" fan-movie notwithstanding). There's nothing wrong with having your last shots be a cliffhanger. TV series do this all the time and it's an accepted narrative trope. It's not following-up on that cliffhanger which is the BIG BIG problem. Of course, you could say that the reason there wasn't a 4 was because of lackluster box office sales. Fine. Kaneko rolled the dice and came up wanting. That doesn't deprive Iris its rightful glory and place within kaiju history, though. Nor, unfortunately, does it excuse why The Faithful might've been sorely irritated that a proper 4 was never produced, especially given that Gamera: The Brave WAS produced - a move that, to this day, still mystifies and angers me. Referencing Star Wars, remember that TESB effectively did end on a cliffhanger. However, it had the "luxury" of being a great 2nd film in a planned trilogy, so it was a foregone conclusion that Jedi would see the light of day (barring something catastrophic). If, for some reason, Jedi had NOT been shot, it would not've taken away from Empire's quality and raison d'être. So no, Gamera 3 was not obligated to tie everything up in a tidy bow. Even just on its own, it's a MAJOR accomplishment. It did set something up, though. Something epic. And, sadly, something we'll probably never get to see.
Love the video and your spin on the trilogy, but I must say, I found it a little amusing that you put in a spoiler alert for a movie series that ended 20 years ago
My head cannon is during the fight gamera gets overwhelmed by the gyaos one goes for a final blow but then it's incinerated by a blue beam of light that incinerates few more gyaos onlookers look towards where it came from and some of the older people get a look horror in their eyes three loud thuds are heard followed by a familiar roar and godzilla walks into view with his theme playing in the background a few gyaos try to dive into the him and his dorsal plates start glowing red and he unleashes a large red blast from his mouth turning them to ash gamera picks him self up and roars as godzilla does the same
There were actually talks of a Godzilla vs. Gamera movie at some point in the early 2000's, can't remember exactly when. Though considering how Godzilla and Gamera were going around that time, it might be good that movie never happened.
@@melvinshine9841 I am pretty sure toho looked at the yen box office and weren’t happy of the 3rd part of gamera triology 520k-600k yens also wich I was pretty sure that gamera vs Godzilla would have been the 4th part of the series. Or it’s own jniverse
Interesting take! I didn't grow up with Gamera. As a matter of fact, I've only seen each of his 12 films once and all in the last two months, so this ending and the trilogy as a whole hasn't sat with me very long. Still, I think I can see the basis for your interpretation. It's solid!
Godzilla's my boy, but the only Heisei Godzilla films that come close the Heisei Gamera films, in my opinion, are the first two. Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah, vs. Mothra, and vs. Spacegodzilla are terrible, even though Spacegodzilla is my favorite Heisei adversary.
@STEVE LE Godzilla vs. Destroyah has some moments, but I think it's just okay as a whole. Maybe I'd change my mind if I saw it in Japanese with subtitles as opposed to a bad dub.
Just came to watch this as part of wondering why this ended the way it did, and this explains everything! Thanks Omni. As for whatever would have happened in the end….. I like to think of it as bittersweet. Yes, Gamera wins. But at the end of it all…. he finally dies. His job done, his victory complete, and it would be time for him to go. A blaze of glory for the hero. 👍
This is y I think of Gamera The Brave as a sudo sequel to the Heisei trilogy since it literally starts with Gamera heavily involved in a fight with multiple Gyaos b4 going on with the rest of the movie
hmmm....I read something somewhere that made me wonder if the 'conclusion' (REVENGE OF IRIS) was meant to be THE end of THAT universe PERIOD. That THAT final battle, which we never see, destroyed that world and all or most of mankind. Honestly, when I first saw the film, it was as if the producers somehow knew one of my most pervasive thoughts about Gamera! As a child who grew up with the originals, when I got older I would sometimes think back to that first 1965 film where he destroys Tokyo, killing and burning people alive after having saved Toshio from that lighthouse disaster earlier. My juvenile rationale back then was, 'After Gamera eats (Nuclear/Atomic fuels, etc.,), STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM HIM! He goes mad until his body cools down! ALWAYS wondered how many Ayana's were out there, even back when the Showa era movies were all there was. MUCH LOVE for REVENGE OF IRIS here!!
Red vs Blue puled a similar trick at the end of its 13th season. The heroes are backed into a corner by the villains, ready for a final stand. One of the heroes prepares to sacrifice himself, but laments that he won’t know if it works, but he just has to have faith. Sure we got newer seasons that showed the outcome and aftermath of that moment, but at the time no one knew what was gonna happen, or if there was even gonna be a follow up season. It’s one of the best moments in the show, and like G 3, and had the audience questioning their faith in the heroes.
hey omni viewer. i wanna ask you if it be ok if i can borrow your godzilla vs king ghidorah videos you did since im planing to do a video about them if that be alright with you. please and thank you
In the Showa Gamera films he was said to be "the friend of all children" not adults who tended to be hostile. The Showa Ultraman series make it clear that even if a kaiju (or Ultraman) has good intentions its still a giant, one misstep and buildings are destroyed, people are killed. Its a wonder the monster fighting team are not sued out of existence. In Ultraman Mebius which is essentially a Showa Ultraman but with multiple forms, the first time Mebius appears a human yells at him to look at the damage he caused in confronting the kaiju, The young (in Ultraman terms) Mebius doesn't really know what he's doing yet and his behavior causes buildings to be destroyed. Mebius is 6,800 years old but considering the original Ultraman is 20,000 years old Mebius is a kid playing soldier.
It had more to do with the fact Daiei went bankrupt again while filming "Gamera 3." Everyone involved promised to complete the film and Daiei was hoping the movie would save them, but it bombed at the box office.
I have a question, Omni: Do you plan on doing a review/analysis of Gamera 2: Advent/Attack of Legion at some point? It's my least favorite of the trilogy, so I am curious to see why you think it's the best.
It’s also my least favorite but it’s not bad or horrible by any means but I personally think that Revenge of Iris is better and that Guardian of the Universe for me is the best of the trilogy 👍
Next video I recommend:Legendary plans for a pacific rim anime in 2020 and it will be animated by Polygon pictures who worked on the Godzilla anime trilogy.
Hey Omni. As you might know arrowhead is releasing an amazing Gamera box set. With your voice could you start a petition to put the Heisei Gamera vs Barugon Manga in the box set.
Luis Rivera Well they made one more Gamera film after this, a short in 2016 but that’s it. Why they stopped who knows might have been that kaiju films in general kinda stopped so perhaps they just stopped making them as well.
"Brave Little One" sort of served as a spiritual sequel, so to speak, but wasn't a true sequel, as the final battle against the Gyaos swarm, serving as the prequel, was far less extensive, and happened in the 70s: it's really more of a sequel to the original series.
Gamera the brave wasn’t and official sequel since the attack of the 70s was not true but the gamera guardian of the universe and Toto’s suit have look alikes.
Yes I am pretty sure this was true I did get a feeling that he is going to die or self destruct plus the ending theme song made me feel that way it could probably end like that.
STEVE LE minya was a grey deformed abomination, with dead eyes. Godzilla junior looked really Goofy until the destroyah movie to belong in the Heisei trilogy. The baby Godzilla’s from 98 actually seem to act a bit like baby animals even if they are deadly, and it is a bit saddening to see them all go the way they do.
STEVE LE fair enough, I can say godzilla jr is a step up from minya both in design and story was, but he still seemed a bit cartoony for me in his first two films but that’s just me. I think I actually liked the babys in that 98 movie more than the actual godzilla.
Greater Grievobeast 55 I personally think Godzilla Jr is still the best interpretation of a baby Godzilla, I do think that when he showed up in the space Godzilla movie he looked kinda odd(I still think it’s cute But doesn’t really look as Godzilla like as he should)
I don't mind the ending of Gamera 3, I actually quite like the ending, it's not a generic hollywood ending. And it's fitting for Gamera, it's just an ending that tells you Gamera will always keep fighting. And anyway there's a reason they use a monster Gamera has already fought before and fought a couple of times the Gyos ( if it was an all new unique kaiju I would have felt cheated as heck ), if we saw this fight it would have anyway just been like Gamera Guardian of the Universe on steroids. And that would have made Gamera repidative and predictable. I just really like the movie we got and I'm so happy it exists
Doesn't matter what the intentions were, if you're making a movie about a freaking giant turtle you better give it a proper ending. It will f$#@ing suck if you give it an art house ending more suitable for a Sundance film.
I was never disappointed with the end. It made sense to me, the main enemy had been destroyed but the threat of the gyaos remains. The threat of the gyaos and monsters of its ilk would always be around, and no matter how battered and wounded and tired gamera was he would always stand against him. The ending was just showing him getting back to work.
Visitormassacre exactly! He just beat iris, and he was able to beat legion not too long ago. The gyaos hardly intimidated me.
This is why I instantly forgave The Avengers for the abrupt stop of the fight once the portal was sealed. We already received our spectacle, another half an hour of spectacle with no narrative purpose wouldn't make the film any better... and would almost certainly diminish the film.
Gyaos Will not intimidate you so you're saying a big big giant man eating bat monster that is capable of shooting Giant rays let's see who is intimidated when a giant bat is flying at you at mac 4 and it's gonna eat you
Kaneko actually said in a 2002 interview he would have made a Gamera 4 had 3 grossed a billion yen at the box office.
That being said, this was an interesting interpretation.
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I mentioned that too
Yet I did noticed something I am pretty sure that gamera 4 film would have been connected with the Unmade gamera and Godzilla 2000 crossover.Yet I found out that the gamera movie yen was 600k and the yen from Godzilla 2000 millinium was 1 billion as long with the other millinium film I guess this is the reason why he did call off maybe because toho said no? the directors made this topic incase of this I may be wrong.
Also you might be saying why 1999 film that’s because gamera 3 came out the same year as Godzilla 2000 it’s not millinium era for gamera it was still, Hesei era godzilla in the other hand it’s his millinium era.
Very interesting analysis. And actually, the creator HAS stated that this was indeed his intention: there is no intended ambiguity, Gamera wins...but the audience has to BELIEVE he won. They have to have FAITH in the fact he won. So yes, you're exactly right.
The cliffhanger to me I got the impression that there will always be something out there to harm the planet. But Gamera will be there to fight it no matter what.
My issue was also I felt the film should have showed Gamera charging at the swarm or at least charging a beam as they approached. But that was just how i felt would have better fit what I thought they were going for.
It's funny how I just got done rewatching the Gamera trilogy yesterday and this video came out the day after
You should do a video explaining why The Gamera trilogy is better than the Anime Godzilla trilogy.
Shin-Goji 216 good ideas. Poor execution
That’s not even a fair competition, the anime Godzilla movies are awful but the Gamera heisei trilogy is awesome.
ThePmb-Tube no one needs an explanation for that
Hell even the 1998 film is better than the anime trilogy
Well.... kinda
I just saw the Heisei Gamera Trilogy in full back to back for the first time tonight and it was amazing! Watching them all back to back I really did see the themes of faith throughout them! And after everything I also believe that Gamera won, that he is really neat, and full of turtle meat!
I did loved the ending of this movie because it's impact could influence future movies, like how gamera the Brave opens up with a swarm of gyaos and gamera exploding, or the proof of concept trailer where the gyaos destroy the city and gamera fights them, only 1 kid survives the destruction. Maybe in the future DAEI will make something from the concept.
The answer is simple, having Gamera fight a bunch of Gyaos after almost everything else being concluded will make it feel out of place. It doesn’t really matter what the outcome of the fight would be. We know that Gamera will fight for us even though we’ve done him wrong. Having him destroy all the Gyaos becomes pointless. I saw this as a great ending even on my first viewing.
Gamera the brave is a standalone film in the Hesei series,it's not a direct sequel to shushuke kaneko's Gamera trilogy.
Kinda unfortunate, right?
Ya, gamera kills himself to save humanity from gyaos..
@@bamanadarajan5473 It's like they wanted to make reference almost. I still can't say i like the movie all that much, but I appreciate that nod.
It was planned to be Gamera's millennium era.
The ending is perfect, the film isn't left on a cliffhanger or incomplete- it's thematically complete, almost everything has come full circle. I always read it as Gamera winning the battle, but ultimately losing the war. To me, Gamera 3 is an end-of-the-world film.
That's how I've always viewed this film, though wither the world actually ends is ambigious to me. I did hear a rumor that there was going to be an end credits scene showing Gamera still battling the endless flocks of Gyaos even after the world is dead and humanity is extinct via the Gyaos, but that's just a rumor.
@@theunpopularopinion9833 Well, it's not a rumor, but it's also not how the movie was meant to end. That is absolutely how Shinji Higuchi wanted the film to end, but it was antithetical to what Shusuke Kaneko was going for with the film and he wouldn't allow its inclusion and as a result, it drove the wedge between Kaneko and Higuchi that killed their working relationship.
I always thought the Gamera trilogy ended the way it did was to end the trilogy, but leave the franchise open to continuation. A continuation that still hasn't happened.
Honestly, I kinda thought that the title gave it away... Good Vs Evil: An Incomplete Struggle.
Hey Omni! I just watched the Gamera Trilogy again, back to back, to celebrate Gamera coming back! It was still just as amazing!
"The voices in my head tell me to kill. I don't want to kill, but I must, or else the voices will never cease" - 9:12
- *Kirby's calling the police*
I still haven't seen Gamera 3 in its entirety and only knew about the ending because I didn't care about spoilers when I was younger. But anyways, I like how this film ended. I never liked cliffhangers because they always tease the viewers, but this one is an exception. Great video.
OV how would you compare the heisei gamera trilogy to other trilogies like the dark knight trilogy, original star wars trilogy, The lord of the rings trilogy and the reboot planet of the apes trilogy?
That's like comparing apples to oranges, other than there being three films there's no real comparison, and if that's all the criteria you need to go on you may be taking a slightly narrow view on the films actual content.
Before I start, I LOVE the trilogy and believe its almost better than Godzilla in many ways. I loved the Iris movie while my brother didn't. The difference, I am a believer and he is not. So for me, Gamera won and saved the world, and my brother disagrees and believes the world ends. So you analysis is perfect!
Wow, that is a truly great explanation! I am guilty of taking the movies individually, instead of threading the overarching theme throughout. Very, very well done, sir!
I have always wanted to watch the Gamera trilogy, that ending does seem slightly disappointing but it still is very interesting. I still do hope to one day watch the full trilogy
At least it subverted expectations better than the last jedi ever did.
KaijusaurusG2K Well yeah
Omni about to weigh in on this subject eh? This oughta be good.
Post script: called it
For me, it was the theme of Duty that made that ending 100% work for me. You had the cop who stopped running from his sense of duty and the soldier who refused to flee from his duty. So when Gamera is facing down what seems like impossible odds, he does the only thing he can: his duty.
By not showing the battle, it's the uncertainty that makes it work so well. He could win, he could die in victory, he could die in noble defeat, or lose the battle and live to fight another day. To show the battle would rob the moment of its uncertainty, because we'd only remember the victory, not the courage in the face of an uncertain fate.
Just a brilliant conclusion, although G2 is the more enjoyable, but mostly because it doesn't ask difficult questions.
I think the director of the movie himself said that Gamera does defeat the Gyaos swarm but doesn't say how. My problem with Gamera 3 wasn't the ending but the final fight with Iris. The Gamera/Iris dogfight is amazing but the actual fight on the ground is extremely anti-climactic, especially in comparison to the final showdowns in the previous two films. That being said, Gamera 3 is still way better than most of the Heisei Godzilla movies and Godzilla's my boy for life.
The final fight with Gamera and Irys is like that because Kaneko and Higuchi shot their footage from two different drafts of the screenplay and as a result, they had to take what each had shot and try to make it work in some semblance of unity. This is why whatever the hell is going on with Asakura dying doesn't work at all because that was the best they could do in the editing.
I wanna check out the heisei Gamera trilogy, I've only seen them once and I cant seem to find a copy of them.
Oh? I got mine on amazon!
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 for how much?
@@SaurianStudios1207they’re now free on Amazon prime
Oooh, really interesting and cool analysis.
The trilogy begins with him fighting gyaos and ends with him fighting gyaos. To me the ending was showing the beginning of the next cycle.
Okay I am never going to watch revenge of Iris the same way again
There's one little known fact about Kaneko's Gamera trilogy that I only learned recently. Someone linked me to a written interview in which Kaneko confirmed that within the universe of his films, turtles and tortoises as we know them never existed at all. Granted, the person who gave me the link may have interpreted the article wrong. Not to mention I hadn't bothered to read the whole thing. I was watching a livestream of Gamera 1 and didn't wanna fall behind in the chat, so I took their word for it.
Either way, if this is true and Heisei Gamera stands alone as the only known species of turtle in his reality, then that's....pretty stupid. He's already 80 meters tall, spits plasma and flies! You don't need to go to such extremes to make him even more special!
That's like making a werewolf movie in which the genus Canis never broke off from the order of Carnivoria, and therefore Canis Lupus never evolved!
If that's a bit too abstract for you, I've got one better: Image if George Romero and Jon Russo's final screenplay for Night of the Living Dead took place in a world of immortals who spent the movie confused over why people's vital functions were ceasing! All so that the concept of the zombie would seem even more fantastic than it already had within the film's narrative!
Lycan Seijin The wolf one was a better comparison as that uses something people can relate to the real world since werewolfs are an extension of real life wolfs.
The zombie thing that because you put in a fantastical setting you have no choice but to focus heavily on how this is unique from the norm.
Lycan Seijin I don’t know about that I mean it is slightly redundant but then again it makes the scene where two of the characters look at an image of a mythical turtle with the snake wrapped around it.(Forgot it’s name) I kinda see it as a way of showing how Gamera is ancient and very mythical, at least that’s how I see it.
Brandon Davis But even mythical beasts are somewhat rooted in the modern animal kingdom. Dragons are essentially enormous carnivorous lizards. Shisas, or "Fu Dogs", are a cross between lions and Shar-Peis, the Minotaur of Greek mythology has the head of a bull. The crafters of these old legends didn't have to make up a world where familiar animals didn't exist. They had the brains to realize that these beasts were fantastic and horrible enough to stand on their own, and they have stood on their own for millennia! No one in their right mind would make a Dracula movie set in a world where bats don't exist, because that would be pants shitting retarded and add nothing to the story. You don't need to make Gamera seem more mythical by erasing all terrapins from existence! It's pretentious tosh!!!
John Williams You're right, I could've framed that better.
Lycan Seijin Fair point
I had no problem with the ending of "Gamera 3". It was the monster Iris, that I did NOT find very intriguing. The story would have been better severed, if it concentrated on the much more interesting Gyaos (and its swarm).
I've a similar sentiment. My biggest issue with Gamera 3 is that final fight between Gamera and Iris was rather boring, especially compared to climaxes of the previous two movies.
Coincidentally, Pokémon Sword & Shield introduced Gigantamax, which not only turns Pokémon kaiju-sized but also changes its appearance. One of the Pokémon, a quadruped turtle named Drednaw, has Gigantamax form that makes it stand upright to be more like Gamera, who is the main topic of this video.
Raphael Marquez I was thinking the same thing after watching the trailer.
Having just seen it, I thought that it was a pretty cool ending. The implication that Gamera is going to fight all the Gyaos was cool and I thought the final title “The Absolute Guardian of the Universe: Gamera” was really cool.
I feel like you planned that ad at 3:45. The timing was just so perfect.
Might be worth noting that the writer, producer (or maybe sfx designer, I forget), director, and music composer, were promoted with the nickname "the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse".
This was also how they were promoted when they contributed GMK to the Millennium series.
it's sad that Gamera never got the respect he deserved.
While i was a G-fan in my youth and still am to this day, I always considered Gamera to be a worthy Kaiju to be considered a rival if not equal to Godzilla.
Hopefully a Legendary will be able to find a loophole that will allow them to have Gamera be brought into the Monsterverse. and if not hopefully Toho won't be so stubborn when it comes to their license with Gamera and actually bring him into their company and give him a proper reboot.
While the deconstruction of the Heisei films is appreciated, it misses the point as to why audiences were left disappointed - there was no Gamera 4 (that "The Truth" fan-movie notwithstanding). There's nothing wrong with having your last shots be a cliffhanger. TV series do this all the time and it's an accepted narrative trope. It's not following-up on that cliffhanger which is the BIG BIG problem.
Of course, you could say that the reason there wasn't a 4 was because of lackluster box office sales. Fine. Kaneko rolled the dice and came up wanting. That doesn't deprive Iris its rightful glory and place within kaiju history, though. Nor, unfortunately, does it excuse why The Faithful might've been sorely irritated that a proper 4 was never produced, especially given that Gamera: The Brave WAS produced - a move that, to this day, still mystifies and angers me.
Referencing Star Wars, remember that TESB effectively did end on a cliffhanger. However, it had the "luxury" of being a great 2nd film in a planned trilogy, so it was a foregone conclusion that Jedi would see the light of day (barring something catastrophic). If, for some reason, Jedi had NOT been shot, it would not've taken away from Empire's quality and raison d'être.
So no, Gamera 3 was not obligated to tie everything up in a tidy bow. Even just on its own, it's a MAJOR accomplishment. It did set something up, though. Something epic. And, sadly, something we'll probably never get to see.
9:13 you too huh I mean what
Love the video and your spin on the trilogy, but I must say, I found it a little amusing that you put in a spoiler alert for a movie series that ended 20 years ago
I love that series
me too
Well, regardless of how one might think about the ending could always have been worse...Could have been super monster
Simon Nilsson the plot still haunts me to this day
Jokster boy ...there was a plot?
@@obsidian179 i do believe that was the intent, well a secondary intent next to torturing it's Viewers
They're fine movies. Pretty good for Gamera.
THANK YOU!!! IVE BEEN TRYING TO TELL PEOPLE THIS WAS AN ALEGORY FOR THE SALVATION OF MAN FOR FOREVER!!!
_Very_ interesting! I like this and didn't pick up on that. Though I've only watched the trilogy once.
My head cannon is during the fight gamera gets overwhelmed by the gyaos one goes for a final blow but then it's incinerated by a blue beam of light that incinerates few more gyaos onlookers look towards where it came from and some of the older people get a look horror in their eyes three loud thuds are heard followed by a familiar roar and godzilla walks into view with his theme playing in the background a few gyaos try to dive into the him and his dorsal plates start glowing red and he unleashes a large red blast from his mouth turning them to ash gamera picks him self up and roars as godzilla does the same
Wasn't there supped to be a 2016 Gamera movie which was cancelled for some reason?
That was just some test footage for Comic-con to celebrate Gamera's 50th Anniversary.
it was a small trailer shown as a proof of concept, not as a build up to any film releases :(
There were actually talks of a Godzilla vs. Gamera movie at some point in the early 2000's, can't remember exactly when. Though considering how Godzilla and Gamera were going around that time, it might be good that movie never happened.
@@melvinshine9841 I am pretty sure toho looked at the yen box office and weren’t happy of the 3rd part of gamera triology 520k-600k yens also wich I was pretty sure that gamera vs Godzilla would have been the 4th part of the series. Or it’s own jniverse
Omni viewer , please do a video explaining why the gamera heisei trilogy is better than the godzilla anime trilogy.
Interesting take! I didn't grow up with Gamera. As a matter of fact, I've only seen each of his 12 films once and all in the last two months, so this ending and the trilogy as a whole hasn't sat with me very long. Still, I think I can see the basis for your interpretation. It's solid!
These movies made some of the godzilla movies look like crap by comparison. I hope gamera gets a new movie soon
Godzilla's my boy, but the only Heisei Godzilla films that come close the Heisei Gamera films, in my opinion, are the first two. Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah, vs. Mothra, and vs. Spacegodzilla are terrible, even though Spacegodzilla is my favorite Heisei adversary.
Heresy!!!
@STEVE LE Godzilla vs. Destroyah has some moments, but I think it's just okay as a whole. Maybe I'd change my mind if I saw it in Japanese with subtitles as opposed to a bad dub.
Just came to watch this as part of wondering why this ended the way it did, and this explains everything! Thanks Omni.
As for whatever would have happened in the end….. I like to think of it as bittersweet. Yes, Gamera wins. But at the end of it all…. he finally dies. His job done, his victory complete, and it would be time for him to go. A blaze of glory for the hero. 👍
This is y I think of Gamera The Brave as a sudo sequel to the Heisei trilogy since it literally starts with Gamera heavily involved in a fight with multiple Gyaos b4 going on with the rest of the movie
hmmm....I read something somewhere that made me wonder if the 'conclusion' (REVENGE OF IRIS) was meant to be THE end of THAT universe PERIOD. That THAT final battle, which we never see, destroyed that world and all or most of mankind.
Honestly, when I first saw the film, it was as if the producers somehow knew one of my most pervasive thoughts about Gamera! As a child who grew up with the originals, when I got older I would sometimes think back to that first 1965 film where he destroys Tokyo, killing and burning people alive after having saved Toshio from that lighthouse disaster earlier. My juvenile rationale back then was, 'After Gamera eats (Nuclear/Atomic fuels, etc.,), STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM HIM! He goes mad until his body cools down! ALWAYS wondered how many Ayana's were out there, even back when the Showa era movies were all there was. MUCH LOVE for REVENGE OF IRIS here!!
12:39 Sega Saturn sighting!
Red vs Blue puled a similar trick at the end of its 13th season. The heroes are backed into a corner by the villains, ready for a final stand. One of the heroes prepares to sacrifice himself, but laments that he won’t know if it works, but he just has to have faith. Sure we got newer seasons that showed the outcome and aftermath of that moment, but at the time no one knew what was gonna happen, or if there was even gonna be a follow up season. It’s one of the best moments in the show, and like G 3, and had the audience questioning their faith in the heroes.
hey omni viewer. i wanna ask you if it be ok if i can borrow your godzilla vs king ghidorah videos you did since im planing to do a video about them if that be alright with you. please and thank you
You have a dino up there from primal rage lol. Anyway thanks for the video.
You Could Look At Th’ Beginning Of “Gamera: The Brave“ as Something akin to an apologetic answer t‘ „Revenge Of Iris“ ses Ending
While I do appreciate Gamera 3 and respect the themes around it, I frankly wish we had gotten a proper 4th chapter.
heres an idea
the trilogy ends with a swarm of flying murder birds
the 2016 gamera trailer opens with a sarm of flying murder birds
This was possibly true that shin gamera would have had a sequel of gamera fighting the birds over night and kept fighting in the morning .
In the Showa Gamera films he was said to be "the friend of all children" not adults who tended to be hostile.
The Showa Ultraman series make it clear that even if a kaiju (or Ultraman) has good intentions its still a giant, one misstep and buildings are destroyed, people are killed. Its a wonder the monster fighting team are not sued out of existence. In Ultraman Mebius which is essentially a Showa Ultraman but with multiple forms, the first time Mebius appears a human yells at him to look at the damage he caused in confronting the kaiju, The young (in Ultraman terms) Mebius doesn't really know what he's doing yet and his behavior causes buildings to be destroyed. Mebius is 6,800 years old but considering the original Ultraman is 20,000 years old Mebius is a kid playing soldier.
14:43 Amen brother 😌
The reason there wasn't a fourth movie was something about how gamers 3 didn't make 1 billion yen if I'm correct.
It had more to do with the fact Daiei went bankrupt again while filming "Gamera 3." Everyone involved promised to complete the film and Daiei was hoping the movie would save them, but it bombed at the box office.
I have a question, Omni: Do you plan on doing a review/analysis of Gamera 2: Advent/Attack of Legion at some point? It's my least favorite of the trilogy, so I am curious to see why you think it's the best.
I touched on that in my list of the Best Kaiju/Giant Monster movies, but if I can figure out a way to expand on, I might do a longeranalysis.
It’s also my least favorite but it’s not bad or horrible by any means but I personally think that Revenge of Iris is better and that Guardian of the Universe for me is the best of the trilogy 👍
I've never felt cheated by the Heisei Gamera Movies. Think about it.
Manafu believed Gamera returned ten years later.
Next video I recommend:Legendary plans for a pacific rim anime in 2020 and it will be animated by Polygon pictures who worked on the Godzilla anime trilogy.
Check Wikipedia about the Pacific rim anime.
them voices keep hollerin all night
Kadawoka asked if there's a possibility for a Gamera reboot(check Wikipedia).
There was a trailer for the reboot pretty sure it was shin gamera or what ever it never happened and people called it a short film.
Wow. Didn’t think this movie was controversial and especially in that way 😨
Is there any way I can contact you? Your videos are fascinating. I'm starting a kaiju podcast and would love to have you on it.
Check the "about" section for email.
Hey Omni. As you might know arrowhead is releasing an amazing Gamera box set. With your voice could you start a petition to put the Heisei Gamera vs Barugon Manga in the box set.
Good thing you said it a masterpiece CUAZ IT ISS
I thought the 2016 short was what happened
Which is funny, because according to the director, Gamera actually wins
I see Completely the Trilogy of Heisei Gamera but why did stop the Franchise Of Gamera in the universe of Heisei??
Luis Rivera Well they made one more Gamera film after this, a short in 2016 but that’s it. Why they stopped who knows might have been that kaiju films in general kinda stopped so perhaps they just stopped making them as well.
@@brandonshmandon1799 and The Franchise Of Gamera Is still in limbo for years
Uh, Gamera the Brave anyone?
Stephen Whitford I mean it happened but then the point still stands there hasn’t been anything Gamera films sense.
@@stephenwhitford775 Gamera The Brave Is different timeline no connection with The Universe Of Heisei Era
Hey Omni, can you do a video discussing what you would think if Godzilla it (Heiesi Era) was in the monsterverse
I meant to say Jr lol
I love the ending
.....the question is, did humanity survive his final battle?
No they did not.
@@Kiryumecahgodzilla02 Kaneko says they do, if you believe.
and even in the beginning of gamera two there is a cross
I also think he won, but not without sacrifice.
Also, the credits go waaaaay out of their way to put a Christian cross into Gamera's name.
Brilliant
That was also a bad translation of the Legion verse. "I am Legion for We are many".
Maybe either the game “Gamera 2000” or the movie “Gamera the Brave” followed after Gamera 3 left off.
"Brave Little One" sort of served as a spiritual sequel, so to speak, but wasn't a true sequel, as the final battle against the Gyaos swarm, serving as the prequel, was far less extensive, and happened in the 70s: it's really more of a sequel to the original series.
Gamera the brave wasn’t and official sequel since the attack of the 70s was not true but the gamera guardian of the universe and Toto’s suit have look alikes.
Alan smithee 😂😂 the name embarrassed directors use to hide their real name
well indeed thus make sense,some people of evangelion were part of revenge of iris.....shame really my john deacon x misato will never be cannon
BuT wE sEe WhAt HaPpEnS iN gAmErA tHe BrAvE
How long have you been a Godzilla fan
So the last Gamera Heiden film basically pulled an Amazing Spider-Man 2 and ended the movie before the battle really began.
Correction: The amazing Spider-man 2 pulled out a Gamera 3
Gamera the brave actually shows how gamera 3 ends, with gamera self-destructing himself to kill the gyaos
Not unless he time travels back the the 70's it doesn't.
Yes I am pretty sure this was true I did get a feeling that he is going to die or self destruct plus the ending theme song made me feel that way it could probably end like that.
Cant say I'm surprised that gamera 2 got the wrong verse lol this is a japanese movie being translated to english
Or the ending of halo 2
2015 gamera
6:30 The Japanese version gets it right
*Baby Gamera is much cuter than baby Godzilla*
*Change my mind*
I can’t because you’re right. 2/3 times baby godzilla looks stupid/ugly . 2/2 if you don’t count the 98 movie
STEVE LE minya was a grey deformed abomination, with dead eyes. Godzilla junior looked really Goofy until the destroyah movie to belong in the Heisei trilogy. The baby Godzilla’s from 98 actually seem to act a bit like baby animals even if they are deadly, and it is a bit saddening to see them all go the way they do.
STEVE LE fair enough, I can say godzilla jr is a step up from minya both in design and story was, but he still seemed a bit cartoony for me in his first two films but that’s just me. I think I actually liked the babys in that 98 movie more than the actual godzilla.
Greater Grievobeast 55 I personally think Godzilla Jr is still the best interpretation of a baby Godzilla, I do think that when he showed up in the space Godzilla movie he looked kinda odd(I still think it’s cute But doesn’t really look as Godzilla like as he should)
Comment on this comment if you have faith in Gamera.
I don't mind the ending of Gamera 3, I actually quite like the ending, it's not a generic hollywood ending. And it's fitting for Gamera, it's just an ending that tells you Gamera will always keep fighting. And anyway there's a reason they use a monster Gamera has already fought before and fought a couple of times the Gyos ( if it was an all new unique kaiju I would have felt cheated as heck ), if we saw this fight it would have anyway just been like Gamera Guardian of the Universe on steroids. And that would have made Gamera repidative and predictable. I just really like the movie we got and I'm so happy it exists
Doesn't matter what the intentions were, if you're making a movie about a freaking giant turtle you better give it a proper ending. It will f$#@ing suck if you give it an art house ending more suitable for a Sundance film.
best Kaiju: Godzilla
Best Kaiju movie: Godzilla
Best Kaiju trilogy: Camera
best Kaiju series: G o D Z I L L A
Great try Gamera...
Thank god it ended
why