Hubitat Elevation Review Gen 2 Smart Home Automation Hub
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- The all new Hubitat Elevation Smart Hub.This little gem features built in Z Wave and Zigbee while also supporting the Lutron Smart Bridge.
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Couple tips and notes:
One, to speed up your dashboards, only authorize the devices you are using in that dashboard. Especially when you have a lot of devices.
Two, we recommend trying to pair devices in place. Repeaters should handle this, but older Z-Wave devices might prevent this from occurring.
Three, mobile apps are now available, giving you access to dashboards in the app, geofencing and push notifications.
Four, There are mobile optimized "cards" views for devices and apps, the table or list view was only shown in this video.
Five, for the Lutron integration, it requires the Caseta Smart Bridge PRO version, or any Radio RA2 bridge (only consumer hub to support Radio RA2)
Six, forgot to mention you control your backups and restore ability, also you choose when or if to upgrade, updates are not forced on you.
Seven, you mentioned Hubitat runs local, but one key feature, is it doesn't require internet, so if you have all local devices, zigbee, zwave, lan connected, you can continue to use everything even without internet, including dashboard access. (just not mobile apps, as they require internet to login in / authorize)
Overall, great video and let us know if we can help.
@@DIYSmartHomeGuy1 Hi, Im currently a ST user for almost 5 years. My hud I believe is starting to giving me problems. I contacted ST but I haven't gotten good results. While researching about ST Hub v3 Hubitad came on my radar. let see if you can help me out to finally pull the trigger on Hubitad. I have quite a few monoprice 11990 dual on/off z wave relays that are connected to dumb switches making them "smart". Currently with ST they work via a device handler allowing the ST app to see Two switches instead of one relay. Do you think Hubitad can handle these type of switches?... Thanks for the great video.
Just got started with Hubitat, I got my hub 3 days ago. I’m looking forward to seeing more videos on the Hubitat. Thanks, I’m moving from SmartThings to Hubitat and all the help I can get. I’m planning to set up to hubs one for my home and one for my shop that is behind my home.
Thanks for the time and effort you put in to produce the video. Overall the video lowered my stress level for migration to Hubitat. I was a System Administrator for the IBM AS-400 years ago, and hated when we had to do a migration for hardware and software at the same time. I was having flashbacks to the 24 to 36 hours day(s) I had to pull to get a migration finished and tested before Monday morning.
Great video! Glad you’re back at it again. This channel was huge in helping me get into home automation.
Just picked one up at Habitat, so keep the "How do I do it" videos rolling.
I'm so glad you're into home automation and decided to share the knowledge. Thank you very much. I'm subscribed.
Thanks for the video. Got my hub, now i just need more smart devices. You really reduced the intimidation factor.
@@DIYSmartHomeGuy1 i discovered innovelli thanks to you. Hoping they release a single gang 2 switch device soon. Need a couple of those.
Glad to see a new video from you and I'm extra excited that it was on the Hubitat. I am really considering moving from ST to here. My main reason is the dashboard. I want to set up a wall mounted controller and I think this will do it. The question I have not had answered yet is RTSP. Can I have a live feed from my RTSP enabled cameras as a widget on the dashboards? Its not a killer for me but would be a nice to have. Thanks for the videos and I'm looking forward to more Pro tips on the Hubitat.
I use actiontiles for my dashboard using an iPad on the wall, they work great and have no delay but are great at creating dashboards
After watching this I'm glad I moved from Wink hub 2 to Home Assistant. Competitively it looks so unpolished. In fact it looks a lot like HA but a bit jankier. Thanks for the video though John! Glad to see videos coming through again.
They wrote a bridge app for it to link it to HA. It's not native, but 2 parts.
Oh, and I would also like to see some Hubitat tutorial videos with levels all the way from beginner to how to make it drive your car.
Great vid, I was sold on getting ST until I saw this
do you know of a way inside of Hubitat that I could get colored lights to have effects (i.e. breathing or color cycling)?
This video made a very good point and I will get to that later. I started with home alarm/automation with a Sear product back in the 1990's. Did it work yes, primitive but yes it did work well. The main issue with all these "Home Automation" products is that they cannot stay in business long enough or as you pointed out get bought out by other companies. You have 80 devices, that is a good chunk of change for the average person. You enjoy it and that is why you work with these technologies. The fact is most people won't be bothered other then the people like you and me which it a rare person out there. Hopefully this one pans out. Would be interesting to see a cost analysis of infrastructure investment to cost savings. I also understand remote operation in some cases can be very beneficial. Personally I was tired of spending money over and over to keep things running. Add to if you or I the operator of the program was not around for some time; it all falls apart slowly until it all fails. It's still all to complex and still only for the wealthy where the wealthy might want to delve . Just one persons opinion.
@@DIYSmartHomeGuy1 Very good analysis there. After observing the many mergers you have stated over the past couple years, it has led me to a bit of in depth research into (my opinion of) viability of a home automation company. Fortunately Hubitat through some of their online interviews/podcasts has expanded their company "goal/vision" on this as well to give better insight. My conclusion on this (opinionated research) is NO "normal size" home automation company can sustain a business model that depends on maintaining/expanding cloud servers as part of their operation WITHOUT charging a monthly fee to recoup the massive expense cloud servers cost to operate. Look at Ecobee, Unreliable - their servers are constantly going offline (no monthly fee), Look at Vera, they "claim to be" local but any changes you wish to make to your automations must be done through a portal (server), and it my case controller was "offline" at least 3 times per week, that same server space is needed to also store each customers devices data. Smartthings can get by for a little bit because they are not "normal size" of the company with all other Samsung products can help absorb losses, but this to will come to an end one day (without the monthly fee, the revenue is not there to maintain cloud servers).
Which brought me to Hubitat, as there is no massive server farm at all with this platform. The only connection Hubitat has to your hub is the "Registered Mac/IP Address" so that when they push out firmware updates they know where to send them, that is it. They don't store any device data, there is no "portal" required to login to access your hub, it is all done with the hubs local IP address (after registration) on your network only. Therefore more resources can be devoted to innovation, which after 2 months has already been proven to me as there as been at least 12 updates sent since then, and 1 from Vera in 12 months. Another telling sign was when Lowe's Iris announced shutdown, Hubitat's team got together to write drivers for most of all the Iris V1 devices that are literally incompatible (at least no one else to date has been able to get them to work on another platform) with every platform, solely as a way to reach out to those thinking Iris just stuck it to them being invested in all these devices and now EVERYTHING would be worthless. That speaks volumes in this market, you will never find a Smartthings/Vera/Wink etc, innovating to grab market share in this field, they are take it or leave it companies.....Then goes to the company support Via their community forum, almost daily Hubitat staff is in the forum answering customer questions/issues, that too you will hardly ever find with the other platforms. Ok time for wrap up, Based upon my (opinionated research) I do not see Hubitat going anywhere anytime soon, and if they did, they way their business model is structured with this company, in no way would your automation be affected, nor is there Hubitat specific devices. So you have zero risk waking up one day and your home automation being shut down/devices no longer work because the company went under or got bought by someone.
I just wish I would have heard of them last year it would have saved me $300 wasted on Vera.
Thanks for the review. I think I want a HE now. Any way to make this control X10? I have a CM15a and a bunch of x10 light switches that I'd hate to just throw away.
Question how can I transfer all SmartThings device without having to resetting all my devices on the SmartThings hub
Note( looking to send all devices to Hubitat)
It might be good to note that Hubitat requires the PRO version of the Lutron Bridge to operate. I had to replace the bridge that came with my Lutron Starter Kit because it did not support Telnet. Only the Pro version does and Telnet capability is required for communication between Hubitat and the Lutron bridge
I use the Wink hub and it seems like it’s dying a slow death. I like how the Wink robots let me trigger another device to turn on, ie if motion detector senses motion turn on this light switch. Can the Hubitat do that as well in a similar fashion to wink?
All of my smart switches, plugs and bulb sockets are smart life . I use the smart life app along with Alexa. Can these devices be used with hubitat? Any time my power goes out or my modem or router are rebooted all my devices go offline and each individual device needs to be re-added to the app to get them working again. Looks like this issue is avoided with hubitat
How is Hubitat's compatibility with different brands of zwave devices?
If the Hubitat has to be within 15 ft of the device, how does it operate those devices further away?
Hello!! Do you think that I will be able to control my friedrich window air conditioner through Hubitat ?
Did you get your hot water recirculation pump control moved over from Stringify yet?
I am waiting for Vera replacements to come out. They got bought out and new hardware coming out soon. Slowly and surely.
All you need for remote access to the local web page is either setting up a VPN to your home IP, or forwarding a port. If you can setup this device, then you are more than skilled to do some network adjustments on your home internet router. Plenty of tutorials out there on how to do that.
I made the mistake of going with Leviton Decora Smart Switches and Plugs. Every time the internet goes out, I'm outta luck. When I asked if there was a way to upgrade the devices, Leviton does not offer an upgrade path. I was wondering if there was a way to "spoof" the web address that the Leviton devices poll to point them to the Hubitat? A simple dedicated route on my router could handle the routing, but can the Hubitat take the place of the cloud? Great video. Thanks
Ok I guess I need to switch I purchased the Hubitat Elevation going to start the migration from Wink, but I am dreading the app on my phone. Any comments ?
Oh. Can I integrate speech with this via Alexa. Like echo speaks for example ?
Love your videos John! Was watching this one last night, then BAM! my internet went out right in the middle of it. There's my sign! Question: You think this has the range to cover a 2700 sq. ft. Condo that's all on one floor? Thanks!
@@DIYSmartHomeGuy1 Thanks John!
I have a raspberry pi running home assistant for over a year now, i have to say, its a royal pain to set up everything get automations up and running, troubleshooting, sometimes some methods work and sometimes they dont, at this point i just want the easiest to use hub available, it seems to me Hubitat requires almost the same amount of coding knowledge the HA requires, and as a lay person these things dont come to me easy, setting things up with mouse is much preferable to using yaml and a keyboard. Do you thing smartthings is easier to use than these two?
Very nice!! Can you do a simple “setting up a device” video? Start with a light bulb or plug and walk us through the set up in Hubitat and setting up the widgets and screen? That would be great. Thanks. 😊👍🏼 #thislookspromising
Came across this great video while looking for a replacement for Wink. Since everything is local and upgrades aren't forced on you I suppose if the company goes under everything should still work as is. What is the company doing business model wise to make sure that it will stick around for a while? I would expect to see some 'Cadillac features' or some sort of subscription model somewhere to sustain the company. Don't get me wrong, I like purchasing a great product with no strings attached but experience has led me to be a bit skeptical.
Hey! I found your channel from the Thailand video. I hope you don't mind me asking for help.
I am new to home automation and i have one wifi bulb light only for now. It works fine with countless apps and voice control. However, to smooth the transaction to the smart world, i am looking for a simple solution to switch it on and off from the wall. Do i need a hub like this? It's a bit pricy for what i intend to use it 😅 cheers
Great video and I am willing to try habitat after watching this. I do not understand that whole "wow" about Smartthings hub, I was only able to pair few of my devices with it including my Samsung tvs where I thought I be able to do more things with them once they were linked with Samsung hub. Well, I did not. I tried to add my lutron caseta to Smartthings and it just does not see it. I'll keep it but it is just another useless device. I hope I'll have more luck with habitat
Hi, well I’m in the UK and SmartThings have done a new app which I’ve had to start migrating to. To only find out that my smart home monitor which was protecting my home at night and when we leave is now useless ! Much to my anger at this being I’d say a big messer as regards changing things around. Lots of integrations like WebCoRE which I used for many things including presence which is now kicked out of SmartThings ! Lots of code I’ve integrated from GitHub to. Which it seems will no longer work either. After being with SmartThings so long I am beyond disappointed with what they have done .... so I am looking for another option which someone else is t going to mess with and take away from me. The thing I want working is the security side of things. Is it possible that hibitat elevation will can do smart home monitoring away and when at home ... I already have sirens lights and the like ... so any advice would be greatly appreciated as I’m mega peed off with SmartThings!! Rant over.
As of February 2020, Hubitat Elevation US version is available from Amazon for $74.95.
I dislike cloud control as well. Totally agree it is best to have it local and fast.
Love the review and video. I just have one complaint. Please warn us before using the Assistants name :) Look forward to watching more of your videos.
@@DIYSmartHomeGuy1 Have you done a direct comparison of Home Assistant compared to Hubitat?
They seem like two systems, maybe the only two, focused on local control and still having a lot of features.
I use Home Assistant currently, but I do find, as it is still pre 1.0 and technically beta, that the breaking changes and stability make it a lot of work
@@DIYSmartHomeGuy1 I have used Home Assistant, as a total Linux and Python noob, the Hass.io image is pretty easy to use, but I have used it for a while and can work around the quirks of YAML. I just am a little bit over the breaking changes and I was wondering about Hubitat and if Hubitat could do the same types of automations. One thing I do enjoy about Home Assistant is the virtually limitless possibilities in the automation engine, as long as your willing to template/yaml/jinga your way through it. I just haven't found anything quite like it yet, but I do want stability that Hubitat seems to give, while still keeping things local.
Great video. I have one question? Did you stop using the wink hub 2 completely? It seems that the wink is not trying to stay competitive with
The other platforms. No major updates in over a year.
Thanks! , keep me updated. I might do the same, but I wii wait for the mobile app
I am just now starting my home automation and security. Naturally I have already made some goofs'n spoofs, maybe. Not into this enough yet to really know. I did blindly and almost by accident buy the Hubitat Elevation just because it looked like it might hook to a lot of different things (does it?, LOL). Good video even though I couldn't follow half of it yet, but I will. Looking forward to finding more and new one to not understand too ;-) Onward! I sure hope that Hubitat, Alexa, WYZE and others play well together, but if not I have a baseball bat and an attack trained 130 lb Belgian Malinois "Maligator" that will wrangle them to pieces. I am even starting my own YT channel soon....sometime...hmmm.
So coming from wink..all sounds good till you started listing all the add on you also need. Jeeze maybe I'll just try harder to make my wink hub work
7:18 - Hubitat has an Android app now that works pretty good for the Dashboards.
Hey, John:
Sorry for being a little foggy on the subject of home automation, but does the Hubitat REPLACE the Samsung SmartThings hub, or can both devices be used simultaneously?
Also, with Google Home pulling the plug in August for things like IFTTT and other devices, do you think Hubitat still work with Google Home?
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Hey, John....
Thank you very much for the detailed answer. It is most helpful.
I, too, like the idea of the Hubitat being local and not cloud dependant. I would like to give it a go someday. But, I will definitely WAIT for a few more Hubitat episodes from your channel before diving into the task.
Kind regards,
T.
Phoenix, AZ USA
@@DIYSmartHomeGuy1 "but they can't control the same devices"......This isn't actually correct statement as both Hubs CAN be used simultaneously. Smart Things users (if they want to) can install the HubConnect User App (Hub Link built in Hubitat app does this also I believe but HubConnect is better) on their Smart Things Hub making it a "Remote Hub" and the HubConnect User App on the Hubitat makes it a "Coordinator Hub" Thereby any device you have installed on SmartThings can be accessed/controlled through your Hubitat Hub OR reverse which one is the Coordinator and Remote Hubs and you could use your SmartThings Hub to control the Hubitat Hub (other way is better IMO). You can also use this HubConnect App to link multiple Hubitats together....I have 3 1 Running nothing but automatons and wifi/cloud devices with the Zwave and Zigbee radios turned off to free up processing power/speed for the automations and one hub each for zwave and one for zigbee with the each other's radio turned off for the same reason.
Since its being powered by 5v usb, Can i use this in India where voltage is 220V and not 120V?
DIY Smart Home Guy sure so that would mean I buy Zigbee and Bluetooth sensors only for Hubitat...?
can I add a code to mode schlage door lock remotely thru the app?
Yes. It takes a few steps though. th-cam.com/video/S_7pz5BToRU/w-d-xo.html
Hi does it work with sonoff please advise thank you
@@DIYSmartHomeGuy1 Thank you even Sonoff do not have answer , i am disappointed
Thanks 🙏
What smart plug switch would be recommended to collect data with Hubitat?
@@DIYSmartHomeGuy1 Power consumption, voltage in and current. I only want a couple of these and the other plugins which I have not decided on will be used to switch on and off non dimming lights. Looking for the best reliable and inexpensive (I am retired) as I can find. Took out all my X10 and Homeseer PC server I used for the past 14 years. Leaning towards the Hubitat. Some of my Homeseer friends are going with Home Assistant on a Raspberry Pi 3.
@@DIYSmartHomeGuy1 Just watched your new video. I am going to wait for the new Inovelli switches as I have a couple no neutral wire situation. Can't wait to see a review of them. Also would love to see a review of the new Android app for Hubitat
This video made me buy Hubitat over SmartThings
I reeeally wish it had a local MQTT client. There is a 2 part bridge, but it's a bit clunky, especially if your MQTT broker is a VM.I don't want to get rid of my OpenHAB, I just want to use this for a bridge.
I heard talk of a local MQTT client, it's supposed to be in an update, but I don't see it.
Anyone else?
@@DIYSmartHomeGuy1 Yes, that is that horrible app / bridge program combo I was referring to. Apparently a lot of people have good luck getting it going, but they also use the typical setup of HA/OH/MQTT on a Pi or similar. Mine is in a VM. It needs reference to the MAC address of the MQTT box, which should be transparent in the virtualized container but apparently it's not because it's not working. It must be my over complicated setup, because it appears to work for other people.
But still, why no native client IN the Hubitat box? I'm not even asking for a broker - just the client?
That's a basic component of Home Automation these days...
I need help with hubduino
Does it works with sonoff switches?
Hi Mr. T, best answer I can give is to check out the Hubitat community for the latest information. Here is a thread I found. tbiu.io/tR68gbrE/yt
Cheers
8:50 - No trouble pairing several devices to this hub while leaving it in the closet.
@@DIYSmartHomeGuy1 I think that the repeater properties of AC powered z wave devices may have helped up with these inclusion operations.
Can you change RGB colors like a color wheel like in most RGB bulb apps?
@@DIYSmartHomeGuy1 I'm trying to decide on the Hubitat to hook up some Sylvania Lightify lights. I still want a UI for on the fly adjustments for my family. Can it do that with the dashboards?
@@DIYSmartHomeGuy1 How do I add this? I'm totally lost on Hubitat. I just want an easy control solution for my family
@@DIYSmartHomeGuy1 Thank you. I'm so lost how to set up apps and tiles with intuitive user control. I guess this isn't the app for on the fly controls and strictly moreso for automation.
@@DIYSmartHomeGuy1 I have zero experience with any other hub. I have a few WiFi LED Strips I control with Google Home, but recently bought a bunch of Sylvania Lightify recessed ceiling lights for my den. It said it need a compatible Zigbee hub. I saw Hubitat is the most recent/advanced hub to use so figured why not try it out. It's far more than I need I think. Maybe SmartThings will be better for me? I'm not trying to fully automate my home, just needed a hub to control my Sylvania lights (and a bit of future upgradability). The local storage was a huge selling point too.
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I'm not sure why you had pairing issues as I've not experienced this on any of my 3 Hubitat Hubs and Hubitat staff expressly promotes "pairing in place" to insure devices build their mesh properly. The only known pairing issue is with Zwave Locks and Garage Doors as with the "secure" pairing requirements need the lock right next to the hub. I've literally paired a contact sensor 150+ feet away from the hub outdoors on a mailbox instantly without issues of having to move the hub.
Great Video overall though, Hubitat is an excellent product with GREAT support, it's what I "thought" I was getting when buying a VeraSecure (now $300 paperweight)