Are Electric Scooter Legal To Ride In The UK?
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- A question we commonly get asked here at Electra-Zoom..."Are Electric Scooters Legal To Ride In The UK?"
The answer is not as simple as you might think. This video will fully out line the position here in the UK currently.
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UPDATE
Thank you all for your comments so far. It is clear there are already a large number of people using their electric scooter for getting about, commuting etc, and in a responsible way, which is great to hear.
It is crazy that we live in one of the worlds most developed countries, who are often pioneers of many new concepts, yet the legalisation of scooters has been so slow.
We should also clarify that the bigger scooters are bought for a number of reasons, not just there ‘max speed’.
They should equally be allowed but with a speed limits in densely populated areas which would have to monitored. We all know you can perfectly legally buy cars which will far exceed the speed limit. As for the scooters this is an area for regulators, retailers and manufactures to discuss collectively.
The key thing above all else is highlighting how beneficial e-scooters can be. If we want to tackle climate change, inner-city congestion, strains on public transport we need to branch out and embrace innovative new concepts. - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
Scooters are illegal yet smoking or drinking alcohol is perfectly fine. You gotta love the UK.
Also there is no emision testing on old cars,so polution is completly legal
Hopefully there is a way to change these laws...... 🤦♂️
Scooters are not illegal per se, any motor vehicle without registration, MOT and a licence is not legal...
@@sammydemon666 so,those 4 wheel electric scooters that lazy people drive on the pavement have registration and insurance?
@@UnipornFrumm Invalid carriages that do
Baffles me how these trials are what they will use to determine how private scooters should be allowed... just legalise them already, they show to have more positives than negatives!
I recently bought 2 e scooters, 1 bit crap no suspension, other incredible quad suspension on front, 40mph, key start up etc but the expensive scooter is going back. Can’t risk police taking it. As much as I love e scooters, I have to admit that they can be extremely dangerous EVEN if the user is sensible and has sill Level 100. Why? Other road users, Cars, Vans, Lorries, trucks, buses etc. Riding in traffic is a bit of a death trap. I’ve had so many close calls on my e scooter. Cars and busses almost hit me. Potholes at 15mph on e scooter can easily throw the rider off and London roads are full of them. Personally, I think that the only way e scooters will be safe on the roads, is if they have their own lane and that lane needs to be smooth tarmac. This just isn’t possible on lots of roads. How can they just add an extra lane in the roads? Streets are not wide enough. On other problem is, the low speed. E scooters are generally set at 15mph, this is for safety but you really need to be able to keep up with traffic and they can’t do that. What’s the solution? Buy a Solar p1 for about £900 like I did and match the traffic speed , up to 40 mph. But there’s a problem. If your going 30-40mph on an e scooter , a crash at that speed, can kill and London roads have huge potholes and crazy cracks throughout. For now, I’m riding my cheap crappy scooter, locally, for fun and using it to go shopping, it’s only half a mile away and I can use back streets. I tend to ride for fun at night, when the roads are empty and even then, I don’t go far. Never in my life would I ever ride my 15mph scooter, on main roads, while it’s busy. That’s straight up asking to die. I think in a good few years, more and more people will ditch the car, bus, train and opt for e scooter, e bike or e car but until then, I guess e scooters will stay illegal, on pubic roads.
@@grahamkelly8662 I’d say a massive overhaul of the transport network would have to be done. If they want us to be on roads then allocate more money to repairing roads and more frequently as well as expand roads if size allows to have bicycle lanes.
@@grahamkelly8662 whats your cheap scooter and how much was it
@@Safy786x listed as AovoPro on Amazon £270 but I received a clone. It’s bumpy as hell. It’s doable but you will have to avoid many roads. I’d buy only if you have smooth roads where you want to ride or for shopping trips and short trips. As much as it isn’t great, battery is listed at 7.5ah and I get 18mile range at average speed of 14 mph
@@grahamkelly8662 ah where can I find the clone and how much is it?
I use mine and it’s amazing, I have a car and prefer the scoots for short journeys! Provided you are not being an idiot the police will not stop you.
I have been stopped just last week going to work and had it seized. 2 years with it, 5000+miles, 10 years of experience on the road, protective gear and extra lights everywhere. Plus I am a key worker as I work in a supermarket at the moment. Just another reason to deeply hate London.
Also had mine seized in Essex this week while commuting to work. Had to pay £250 to have it destroyed. I have had my scooter 2 years and I have been so responsible riding it. Totally gutted as I loved it
@@craigwythe4581 What do you mean by ''had to pay £250 to have it destroyed''?
@@robertocabras9604 when police seized the scooter they passed it over to a recovery company called LJ Transportation. They have a contract with Essex Police. They have charged me £150 for the recovery and storage of the scooter, and £50 additional to destroy it. I also had the option to reclaim it for £300. I opted to destroy it.
@@craigwythe4581 I'm not aware of all the procedures by in my case I ''only'' had to pay £150 to get it back from the pound. The price goes up by £10 every day until the 7th working day, after which you can't get it back and it gets destroyed. How long did your scooter stay there?
My commute to work is 10 miles
I would absolutely love to use my scoot to commute to work and back but here comes the problem
If I do that UK doesn't gain absolutely anything from me riding my scoot to work
If I use my car UK gets money from the fuel that I use from the tax that I pay from the insurance and so on
With the scooter is close to nothing so that's why they are still ilegal and the longer they stay ilegal the more the rich gets richer
It's a disgusting mess in that government ruled by old people with old ideologies
but people ride electric bicycles and uk gets nothing yet they are allowed
@@steve00alt70 Prices are through the roof, and I couldn't picture a more inconvenient method of getting around.
The ridiculous draconian laws that were made before even cars were invented absolutely needs to be changed
2021 yet we still stuck playing kings and queens.
@@dariomanson5697 you don't wanna change your history thats what makes countries beautiful
Gov will legalise it when they figure out how to tax its use..
make them legal please goverment! this should be the alternative to an ebike without the £2k price tag good video Electra zoom
I liked your video, however disagree with your proposal to limit the speed and size, as you point out the scooters themselves are not dangerous it is how you ride them I am a big bloke 58 years old and have purchased a scooter that can go very fast, that does not mean I go very fast on it, its a scooter, but it is robust can transport my 110kg self around and has a bit of power for long recreational trips and commuting. I do think scooters should be off pavements and in cycle lanes and that riders should be required to wear helmets and hi viz, My scooter has headlights, indicators and good brakes but I would not ride it in pedestrian areas it is not made for that. I do drive a car and think like everything if you drive carefully and sensibly scooters have a place regardless of their size or power. I also live in a very hilly city so torque and power are needed to get around some hills in my city are just too steep for most scooters.
Don`t want to spark an argument just think the onus should be on the riders to be safe and not try and create an illusion of safety by only allowing slow scooters on the road. There are big motorbikes out there and powerful cars they are no more dangerous than smaller vehicles if driven sensibly and responsibly.
Just because you can go fast, doesn't mean you should. Picture a 14 kid going 40mph for the first time and the second picture will be an ER. Suggest they progress with age much the same as they would with different power bikes.
@@dariomanson5697 Picture a parent paying thousands for a 14 year old to have a top of the line scooter only meant for professionals on race tracks. Now picture a sane parent, and child spending £200 on a 12mph scooter with brake lights, head lights, emergency brakes, and 3 speed modes. Funny how the second one seems more realistic isn't it?
they should have two top speed setting - a 10km per hr for on pedestrian walkways, and a 25 for cycle lanes. A coloured light should indicate which setting the scooter is using, and a simple reg system used to identify the owner/rider
Another 14 - 18 months, and they just might be legal.
Yet ebikes have no such problems. It's just not fair !🥴
Ebikes that are bigger, harder to control, and more dangerous are legal, but scooters aren't?
On the 30th of November this year the scooter trials officially end
If they don't legalize them the next day ,all the 18.000 hire scooters will be illegal on the road
@@S-O-T : I recently purcased a ETWOW Booster GT. 25mph, 20 -25 mile range, 2 stone in weight, (12 kilos or so). The most powerful 500 W, (700 peak) scooter out there. It's a Blast ! (As long as you get a nice smooth surface). It climbs every hill I have come across. Infact, it can climb any hill my Dualtron Mini did. It really is a Great scooter ! Add the fact, I only paid £549 for it. (They are all sold out now). Cometh the day of reckoning, I don't really know where I stand ? Maybe I will have to sell it ? I really don't know... Only time will tell...
‘e-bikes’ remain illegal…epacs (which is what you mean) are dreadful. 250w won’t get an obese old ‘un up hills and you must peddle to get motor assist..so if plod catches you with a twist grip throttle..big spanking! Pathetic!
A good overview of things to consider. E-scooters and micro mobility will play a greater role in the sustainable transport mix. The UK as you would expect puts over cautious hindrances in your way, just educate, train,practice and enforce the newly added section in the highway Code. At age 78 I've had 68 years experience on two wheels. There's more ....
E-scooters are finally been given the go ahead here in Western Australia with the state government making new legislation to make them legal to ride from 04/12/21. Hopefully the same thing will happen soon to our fellow E-scooter owner/riders in the UK.
Privately Owned E-Scooters need to hurry up & becomes legalised. I got a Pure Air Pro to use purely for commuting 6 miles 1 way. But the need to look over my shoulder constantly is unsettling.
Tell me about it. I recently ought a cheap e scooter and it’s ok but on bumpy roads, it’s a nightmare and them potholes can fuck off. After the disappointment, I bought an amazing e scooter, goes up to 40mph, has key start up, 4 suspension on front and huge suspension on back . I didn’t plan going over 20mph but I honestly didn’t know they was illegal and because of this, I decided to return my expensive e scooter and if becomes legal, in near future, I’ll buy another. For now, I’m just using my cheap e scooter but I’m still worried that police may stop me, hand out big fine and take away my scooter. I use my scooter to go shopping, and for short 30min- 1hour rides, for pleasure but it’s really bumpy on lots of roads and the police is a worry
@@grahamkelly8662 If you have one of those m365 scoots you can get front suspension for it which would make it perform better on bumps, check out the TH-cam vids on m365 suspension.
@@flitsies hi, I don’t have that scooter. I bought from Amazon. It was suspicious. Brand name was something like E165, but that picture stated AovoPro. So I thought that was brand, especially when I messaged a seller but I went with a much cheaper seller. Scooter looks the same but does not work with AovoPro app, like pic shows and like the seller I message stated so. So my scooter Basically looks exactly like an AovoPro it isn’t branded so. Do you know if it’s possible to attach a suspension to my scooter?
@@grahamkelly8662 I don't know if it would fit but the scooter looks the same in the picture so it may be worth a try.
I suspect it would fit as the scooter looks like an m365 clone.
You could check the front end specks to see if they are identical.
Me I don't mind the bumps I even over inflate the tyres to get better pull away, and when the scoot hits the bumps it tends to skip over them rather than slamming into them.
@@flitsies my tyres are hard so I can’t put air in them but thanks for the advice regarding the suspension. Do you know if such suspension, will make much difference to ride smoothness ? Do you know roughly how much the suspension will cost and where to buy?
There are loads of escooter hiring schemes in the UK, soon in London as well.
Can't all scooter brands gather and sue the government?
This "hire only this brand" scheme is illegal by any democratic free market standards.
Should never happen in this country.
I would agree, it feels very wrong that some can rent them out and proffit with the blessing of a local authority but you can't ride on you own yourself. I think the rental market on e-scooters should be stopped until the law is changed.
Can’t wait for them to be full legalised, the reason is about money the government will loose not about safety .i ride an e bike that is limited to 15.5 mph but on my normal bike i can ride at 20mph +. at the age of 70 my e bike helps me get hills and makes it enjoyable to ride .and looking forward to have a e scooter in my car so i have some transport when out also my wife has a bad leg and fine it hard to walk long distance in the country side so a e scooter would be great .keep up the good work
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Indeed. The government want to implement a revenue collection business before they legalsie private use.
As you can see from my video(s), I ride at 40mph in some places on my road bike with no electricity, but can't ride a small scooter at 15.5mph lol
@@TheLondonCyclist is it true that they will be legal to ride in August
@@seanthesheep3871 Yes and no. The trials started in July I think it was. By August, 12 months would have been done and then they'd decide with the information they have collected whether to legalise escooters or not. This may even take a few months the way the U.K. is right now.
I have heard a few police comments like "stay off until we get word in August" or "keep your scooter at home until August" etc that's what police have said to fellow riders, so they know something we don't.
Some have even said it may be late 2022 because London trials of rentals is started in May, in a few weeks, so who knows? It's all a big shiit show with this government.
@@TheLondonCyclist oh ok it's just really annoying because I wanted one back in December for Christmas and my parents said no because they are illegal but I live in a little City in the middle of England I very highly doubt a police officer is going to stop me I only seen three officers in the past 3 months but my parents said I can get one next Christmas because I'll be 14 then
@@seanthesheep3871 That sounds great. Give it time. You've got many years as a teenager to ride scooters and bikes. I know it's not fair, but your parents are right. They would get into trouble if you're caught riding it around, even if you only see one policeman sometimes. It will be even more exciting once they're legal and you finally get one :)
Can’t wait for them to be full legalised. Awesome product
Absolutely 👍🏻🤞🏻
They never will be. The roads are for Cars
@@kentcyclist but even not the roads,i am in northern ireland and for us you can’t even go on the path to do it,your only allowed to ride in private land with permission
@@kentcyclist then legalize them for use on the sidewalk
@@kentcyclistthere was a time roads were for horses & karts 😂😂😂
I've just impulsively bought my first Pure escooter but I live in a small town in Wales and I'm afraid to use it in case I get 6 points, a fine and lose scooter. All I do is get up early and go round the park. It's crazy but can't afford the points on my licence.
I bought a Kaabo wolf warrior 2.5 k money i live in wales also i am a bit nervous too the cops are everywhere
i am a very sensible adult try telling that to the cops it is a load of bollocks when they are renting them out
and you cant ride your own one, i am like you i go to quiet cycle lanes late evening
Bloody sure I'm not forking-out a grand on a decent e-scooter just to sit in a cupboard ......... I'll wait until they're legalised first!!!!!!
@@madmaxmcinnes4102 Very wise.
Thay need to make it legal thay are fun
Sign 🪧 the petition the max everyone please sign the petition
The government don't want you having fun for free. They want to control you
It is illegal to breath in the U.K.
@@stuartpattison1576 haha 😂 😂 your on the right track there XD
It's August 2021 already....any updates or changes to the legislation concerning scooters?
Nearly 13 I have an aovo pro m365 what about me I have to walk 6 miles to school so I’m very stuck after I have moved house and my mum has to set of to work early what about 12 to 13 year olds but from 12 to 18 you have to always drive responsibly and mandatory to have a helmet on?
A speed of 15mph 16 above 30 mph children under 10 6mph
E-scooters and other vehicles currently classes as PEVs are a great innovation for people like me with mobility issues. I can't use an e-bike, as I cannot pedal and feel mobility scooters are way over the top for my needs. Something light to throw in the car so I can have mobility in another location would be ideal, especially if it could cope with hills.
does anybody know if u can ride e scooter that go 10 mph without any licesnse under 16?
I do feel that a form of insurance should be required for anything using the roads.
Why give insurance companies money for something with such lows odds of a serious accident happening. They would also create the problem of pedestrians intentionally trying to get hit by these things and making false claims. That said if they allow faster than 15mph E- Scooters that's a different story I wouldn't mind paying insurance on one those but insuring something that goes slower than a bicycle is just ridiculous.
Demographic wise. I have my own electric scooter. I'm 57. They are rent-able so the govt can say they tried but the issues of the rented scooters being dumped will be used to kill off the schemes. Oxford had a rental e bike scheme that folded recently because the bikes were scattered all over the city when they were dumped. I would happily ride my e scooter into my local town 5 miles away. I've always worn a helmet and gloves which proved useful recently when I was stupid on private property when I did a full "superman" off the front of the scooter. The bruises were impressive.
Wheel Diameter is not mentioned....those small Wheels do not fare well on rough Surfaces
and their lack of sufficient Castor or Trail makes them inherently unstable?
Just purchased my first e-scooter to help my commute living in Reading. Chances of getting fined or having it seized in this area?
you still using it?
i dont think its about making 50mph scooters illegal, just have them regulated, most people that ride them dont want to drive in london or have the space for a car. im moving to a flat with very limited parking eg the road so want to find a nice alternative to my car to get around and to work, debating getting an ebike
I have a nami scooter that dose 60mph so only allowing up 15mph don't sound good to me 😢
So can I rent my scooter to my brother and he can rent his to me
Thank you all for your comments so far. It is clear there are already a large number of people using their electric scooter for getting about, commuting etc, and in a responsible way, which is great to hear.
It is crazy that we live in one of the worlds most developed countries, who are often pioneers of many new concepts, yet the legalisation of scooters has been so slow.
We should also clarify that the bigger scooters are bought for a number of reasons, not just there ‘max speed’.
They should equally be allowed but with a speed limits in densely populated areas which would have to monitored. We all know you can perfectly legally buy cars which will far exceed the speed limit. As for the scooters this is an area for regulators, retailers and manufactures to discuss collectively.
The key thing above all else is highlighting how beneficial e-scooters can be. If we want to tackle climate change, inner-city congestion, strains on public transport we need to branch out and embrace innovative new concepts.
Have you checked whether that Highways Act is still good law? It isn't.
It's helped me with my mental health 🤦🏼♀️
It's made mine worse. They're constantly on the pavement in my area.
@@31428571J yh I'm getting tired of these clowns riding it every day
@king123193 my god i relate so much. I had a mental breakdown last year. Via my sister i discovered electric scooters. Its helped me so much. My wife too. Her mental health has improved so much. Its like a release in the safety of ur own bubble so it helps with my social anxiety. I jus go. God i pray they make them legal
@@31428571J ok BOOMER ,stay inside and watch your football on tv like you do
@@l.a2031 Wouldn't a motorcycle or a bicycle or horse have the same effect?
EUC legal to ride too?
So can you tell me. Do the rental companies pay the insurance. Otherwise they are illegal.
But we have electric bikes you can buy of the shelf at 15.5 mph ( yes I know people have got these conversions doing 50 mph + ) surely a bike which you can pedal faster especially on these e road bikes you could really get some speed on those and surely it can do almost more damage but I can understand a little bit why they won't legalise 50-60 mph scooters as much as it would be great if they did
Hey all,
Actually actively involved and being funded by UK Gov as professional contributor in the consultation, main issue is now simply down to actual identification of private users, various methods have been tried and ruled out, but there has been somewhat of an agreement now as to how this will eventually be solved.
So although the consultation has now been extended to November, this is not all bad new, We are currently producing 100 Vsett 9 that are registered as L2 class mopeds, which will be used road legally around London, then between Easter and summer, there will be a new eMoped lite classification approved which will be as follows:
15.5mph top speed, standard Uk registration Mark fitted to rear, no seated position requirement, provisional driving licence, but no L plate or CBT requirement.
This will allow a clear an easy road map for private users to get legally into the road sooner rather than later but still within the current consultation.
So all good news hopefully by July you can by a private eScooter and ride it legally straight out of the shop. So don’t despair you will all be able to get out and enjoy the summer on road legally on your privately owned eScooter as we have all wanted all along,
Kindest Regards A
Hi, thanks for the video and information. I just want to run something by you. On the back of my provisional driving licence this is what it says: AM- Mopeds - Two or three wheel vehicles with a maximum design speed over 25 km/h but not more than 45 km/h
Light Quadricycles - A four-wheeled vehicle with an unladen weight of not more than 350kg, (not including the mass of the batteries in the case of electric vehicles), whose maximum design speed is over 25 km/h and less than 45 km/h
Question; If I have a E scooter that goes up to 40MPH is this then not classed as a two wheeled vehicle? If so, then I'm sure I can register my vehicle , tax it and then be able to ride legally on the road. So really going by what it states on my provisional driving licence, my scootet is actually a two wheeled moped. The only things that would make it illegal would be if it does not have front and back lights and turning signals. Surely if I register it then I should lawfully be able to get a number plate for it and as long as I have insurance I should be good to go. What's you take on this? I would like to hear your opinion or anyone else's for that matter. Thanks.
Hi Michael, this is an interesting question. We have had a couple of people who've purchased some of the more powerful scooters express interest in trying to road register them.
This isn't an area we have a detailed understanding of, however there would be a fair amount of red tape to get though. It would need to comply with DVLA regulation and comply with their regulation, mirrors, lights, indicators, maybe need a chassis number and then be insured. To date we are not aware of anyone who's gone though the whole process. If you have a look at the Suron bikes, these are a cross between a mountain bike and a dirt-bike, no pedals and purely battery powered and with same 40mph top speed. They have now got an option to road register those and you can see all the extra stuff added onto the bike to enable this.
Of course there are sometimes lope wholes for road registering stuff, such as trails bikes going from stage to stage, farm machinery etc, so they maybe scope to explore.
If anyone has anymore info on the specifically or has actually registered theirs we'd be keen to find out how the process was.
@@electra-zoomelectricscoote3527 Hi there, thanks for your reply. I've actually just got off the phone to DVLA and they have stated that as my scooter goes 50mph, it definitely needs to be registered , weather it is seated or not. It also has to have turning signals and a front and back light. Regarding mirrors, I have contacted DVSA and they have advised that mirrors are not an essential but having one would be better than not having any at all just so you cane see behind you before you indicate. You would also need to complete a CBT motorcycle test and insure your vehicle. Right now I'm just filling in my registration form and then going to book my CBT, if you already have a full licence then I believe you would not need to complete the CBT as your full licence should already cover you up to a 50cc capacity motorcycle. Once DVLA accept the vehicle registration, then I would get my registration number and would lastly, then have to pay to get my plates put on my vehicle. So far , all legal and lawful . All this information has been obtained from DVLA and DVSA.
Hi , I think your right. Also you don't pay road tax for an electric car. So why would you pay road tax on a scooter. Yes I think you should have to register them. Also to have to take it to a scooter shop ,once a year and have it checked. For roadworthiness. That shop. Then gives you a certificate. That you should have to carry with you.
@@michaeljohnson5321 can you provide an update, has this worked? And what scooter did you purchase?
A new UK road legal e-scooter is about to come and is launched here: th-cam.com/video/-eNZWg5l3-M/w-d-xo.html
I'm inntwo minds or not to get one ..I really want one but don't fancy paying a fine if I get pulled on one
But how come toy car, sofa car is legal on the road? Even got plate number on it..
So they don't want us to save money owning 1 but hire is ok I'd just buy 1 and get chased big deal they told up so down few bk alleys and hide sorted plus the grill of being chased
Lets get down a bit from your chase. police have a heli now a drones and now planes oh and the lovely K9 unit. Do you think you can hide?
Why are electric Scooters compared with a moped and not with electric bikes were no insurance or tax is required????
Apparently the law says eBikes are 'electrically assisted', whereas eScooters are 'electrically propelled'. For this reason it's also illegal to have a throttle lever on an eBike, as the rider has to contribute to the propulsion. The law doesn't always make sense.
@@rickparkinmoto They're not though, they need to be pushed to start, so that's why they are the same as Ebikes
@@TheLondonCyclist The 'push to start' is a safety feature. They have a throttle lever to continue moving.
@@rickparkinmoto So? The throttle on allows the motor to keep helping, it doesn't start the scooter, you have to push the scooter up to around 3-4mph and then it kicks in. The same with pedalling an ebike, it kicks in when you pedal.
@@TheLondonCyclist I don't make the rules, nor do I agree with the rules. You need to take it up with someone who does. Again, the 'push to start' is a safety feature, NOT a legal requirement. Some scooters do not have this feature and can be started on throttle only. You're directing your ire at the wrong person. You also seem to have conveniently ignored the illegality of the throttle lever. If you have a problem with that, take it up with the rule makers. I'm just explaining, NOT defending. You're deliberately misunderstanding. An eBike will come to a stop if the rider does not pedal. An escooter will continue after the first kick because of the throttle lever. the rider does not have to continue contributing to propulsion. The throttle lever is the illegal part. I have tried to make this easy to understand but if you're still having trouble please ask an adult. As for the rules - I repeat, I don't make them. arguing with me is not going to solve your issues.
Having fun is now illegal in the UK. So to answer that question, is it fun to ride an e scooter?
Not on the highway or footpath or in any public place this includes parks and any place that is not private even then you will need the owners consent. Now that's not too hard to understand is it?
The nanny state cant screw you for money like they would if you owned a car. I ride mine because its practical
If I'm honest the bigger and faster scooters have a better way of keeping up with traffic. Also they're a lot more safer and sturdy. I went from a Xiaomi to a 3200w scooter and straight away I already feel more safe. I have a wider deck, wider handlebars. Also i get more range cos of the bigger battery. Just cos it can do 50mph doesn't mean you can't put it in eco mode and stick to the speed limit. Same as a car or moped they stick to the speed limits but can exceed the national speed limit so simple do the same for scooters. Mine has indicators and dual suspension. Something the smaller Xiaomi's do not
That is a very valid point Jay. As your rightly said the larger scooters are bought for a number of reasons, not just there ‘max speed’.
Perhaps a lower speed limit (15 mph?) for densely populated areas but slightly higher for rural and open county areas..... Hopefully something that will be consider if regulation comes into play.
The key thing above all else is highlighting how beneficial e-scooters can be and how the vast majority users ride responsibility.
@jay jay , yes, I recently bought my first e scooter. The generic AovoPro looking 1 and was so shocked at how tori or it was to ride, hard tyres, no suspension and crappy London Roads. I went ahead and bought a Solar P1 with 4 suspension on front, big suspension on back, wide tyres, 40mph, key start up and more but I didn’t realise they was illegal on the road, so I decided to send the p1 back. I wouldn’t have rode above 20mph , I mainly bought it for the comfort and smoother ride but I’ve read that the Police are MUCH more likely to stop you, if your on a high powered, almost motorbike looking e scooter, even if your riding slow and that’s exactly what the solar p1 is and I can’t risk police taking it, or the £300 fine. Even tho I’m sending p1 back, in your experience, do you find the ride to be more smooth on higher powered e scooter with wider wheels and great suspension? Like is it really that much more smooth? I have to memorise where the potholes are because when going over in crap e scooter, it’s a heavy impact and I e almost come off, lots of times because of this.
@@electra-zoomelectricscoote3527 yes exactly also having bigger motors and also the higher wattage allows for the scooter up hills with no problems especially for heavy riders. By capping it to 15mph and the motor to just 350w a heavy rider isn't going to be able to go up hills as smoothly and that could indirectly discriminate heavy riders over a certain weight. I don't think there should be max just allow people who own the scooters to be safe cos they usually know whay they're doing
@@grahamkelly8662 I think it depends on you as a rider. I rode my Xiaomi multiple times over potholes and never once felt like I would come of it but that's cos I'm just a very experienced rider and also my job being dancer allows me to position myself on it in ways to control my weight balance and not to fall off. When riding the bigger scooter it has larger wheels 11" compared to the 8" on the Xiaomi. So going over potholes is no issue whatsoever. The suspension makes the ride much more comfortable especially going over bumps or coming off curbs. The dual motors easily flies me up hills with no problems. Its just overall a lot nicer to ride it. You can feel how more comfortable it is to be on a bigger scooter it feels more safe. Its a shame you sent your P1 back though as I almost bought that. Mine is similar to the P1 pro with more range and oil hydraulic brakes. I too thought they were now legal and accepted as I saw hundreds around London. I think it all depends in my area police have passed me and have not said a word. If you have a helmet and hi vis vest then you should be fine. But everyone takes the risk. I only use mine for ride outs for now and use the Xiaomi for small commutes. But having a faster scooter really does well in traffic cos you can keep up with the rest of the cars and not hold any one back. Wait until August the government will make their decision cos I believe the rental scooters are actually not the best way to go. Myself also thought they were made legal in July last year for everyone
@@manlykscorpa so it may become legal to ride, sometime after August? I’m really really annoyed because I don’t wanna send my P1 back. Dunno if I mentioned before but the P1 is extremely heavy and I hurt my back, just unpacking the fucker. That plus it not being legal, Is just too risky, for me. I mean, lastnight, I went for a ride, around midnight, on my cheap scooter and on way back, I was in bus lane, empty road, police roll by in undercover car, opposite me and flashed their lights. I know when they do this, it’s usually to get you to stop, for whatever reason. So I’m shitting myself, I carried on slow and thankfully, they didn’t stop. Then early this evening, I pop to shop and just around corner from my house, was a Police Car. I thought, fuck, lucky I wasn’t on my scooter. Then forgot about it. I then take dog for a walk, shortly after and we’re up the road and guess who we see? Yes , police. I usually ride right past these 2 places , at different times and to be honest, I go by police, around here at least once or twice a day. I hear everyone saying that police don’t bother them but I’m bloody unlucky. Plus, I don’t have a helmet yet. I was becoming less scared of police, I said to myself that I’ll use scooter to go local market, to various shops , using back roads and I’d find a few local parks to ride through, just for a bit of pleasure. To be honest, I don’t get out much, due to anxiety and I was really looking forward to getting out more and getting a little independence, on my e scooter but the day my p1 arrived, I see TH-cam vid, stating it’s illegal. Prior to this, I was riding my cheap bumpy scooter and even though some roads are murder and some I just had to avoid, I was enjoying being outside and not feeling too anxious. Just riding a few miles per day but now I’m really on edge , when I use scooter. Especially, as I keep seeing police. I’m not worried about criminal record but if they fine me £300 I’d be way too anxious and won’t be able to go out on scooter again and if they take scooter away, I’ll be bit gutted. It’s just a bad situation I’m in. I’m keeping the sub £300 scooter instead of comfortable p1 but I could still lose that and get £300 fine. Cheap scooter cost £270. So that plus £300 is £570. £570 is a big lose for me. Then part of me is thinking, fuck it, keep P1 and risk it. I could ride my bumpy scooter for a year and no trouble, then I’d be like, should have kept p1. Or I could keep p1 and have it taken away , possibly after only a few rides. I think I need to go with my gut instinct and just send p1 back and if law changes, buy another good scooter. I was even possibly going to see if I could find a group of people, In London, to go on rides here and there. I feel like an idiot for not checking the law but I don’t personally know any1 with an e scooter, I just seen everyone and their mothers cat, all riding scooters, for last 2 years. So being illegal, didn’t even enter my brain. My p1 is packed and awaiting Fed Ex to pick up on Tuesday. I got a great deal too. Was about £1400 with seat and I paid £930. 😭 wish I lived in the countryside. 😂
I'm just about to buy Scooter number 3 ....I also own a T18 bike....must say after a year practicing I'm looking at 5800 w and above 😜🤪🤣😂
Wolf warrior 11 plus is a good shout i own one and its insane
The UK is taking time to find out what's the maximum amount of cash they can squeeze from e scooters ! They don't give a **** about your safety.. and that is the truth unfortunately
UK government need to sort this properly.. If scooter manufacturers could make a speed restricted, three wheel lightweight retro style foldable with optional seat they would make a fortune. There are hundreds of thousands of folk who are ambient but simply cannot walk very far or stand for long... Ideal for popping in car....Many would appreciate the opportunity to simply shop or have a family day out without a heavy expensive buggy/wheelchair... It has been assumed for many past decades that people with various "disabilities" are more mature, housebound, none weight bearing etc etc. Some are but many are not.
I will certainly be buying one when they become legal in the UK
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Hi When do you think they will be legal in the uk?
Whe the fucking cows come home!
never...
When they will stop voting for regresive politicians
the next step up isnt mopeds, its e-bikes........which are legal and can go up to 40mph, good old uk,
I love England, love the fact I don't live there.
Where walk or cycle or hire is ok
So is it illegal or legal?
Are they allowed to just confiscate it without warning because they just confiscated mine and said that I can’t get it back and I didn’t know
check the law on gov.uk you are allowed to take it back
Any news i would love a reply i just bought a Kaabo wolf warrior afraid to get pulled
@@happy11111100 no I’ve called the station multiple times they won’t pick up sigh guess I’m not getting it back
@@happy11111100 I think if you live in London it’s fine because they don’t care but in the rest of the uk don’t
It’s called theft
Can you not just use an electric scooter and or you’re stopped, claim to use the regular scooter function and not the electric power?
What if your using it for a mobility aid? Maybe you can't walk long distances, yet the powers that be don't justify a mobility scooter. What's the requirement for those because I've seen a lot on the pavements on the roads and half the time nobody's home, seriously.
So i watch one episode on ibxtoycat's 3rd channle where he uploaded a e-scooter video. I watched a bit of it now this is on my recogmended. 🤦♂️
I’d say minimum age to ride 17 yrs, make wearing a helmet mandatory and pay insurance every year and have them so you have to have them registered
No 14 is better since they understand the laws scooters need to be accesibal ya know
@@justgaming9592 I just don’t think under 17’s are responsible enough…………ya know
I dont understand how ebikes can be used and electronic scooters can't.at the end of the day they both are powered by an electronic motor .I used to use my scooter to and from work until the police pulled me over .the government need to make them legal they aren't doing any harm.
Thanks for the tutorial, just can't wait for lawmakers to come to their stupid senses how benefit e-scooters are for the environment and well-being. Legalize it, tax it, ensure it more money for sure for the Government Body, The world is moving fast.
"Legalize e-scooters Now"
Make it 30 mph legal on the edge of a rd with lights eco friendly you want so legalize
I say that should be legal speed 16 upwards as that is age of man and woman in uk England and below 16 they have 15mph and under 10s 6mph all legal I ride mine had it few days I have done about 80 90 miles already I will plan a trip to a village just for 5he fun of it
I can see why there are laws, but in all honesty, the laws on UK are way too ridiculous
They don’t pay insurance and road tax I should be on
Owned an ET-WOW scooter since they came available a fair few years ago covering many miles ever since and they are great on smooth surfaces where there's no people and no cars, otherwise these things are lethal especially in a fools hands !
Don't forget the downside of scooters. Ice.Snow.Rain.High winds.cold.Clothing you need for protection.Apart from that it's still a good way of short transport.
Why do i see mobility scooters
On the road and pavement
And there not insured
I know this as my aunty has one
The only gripe ive got with e scooters
Is the size of the wheels to the size of pot holes we have on the roads
But we all pay taxes so they should get fixed surely
I own a pure pro and my son has the essential mii
Hurry up and and get them legal
Loads flying about in Manchester hahaha
Same up here we do or own up north fuk south lol
15 may be the official speed for a bike to cut but they don't go 15 mph many people once they reach 15 and then pedal which then takes them up to 20 or 25 mph so keeping scooters at 15 just means they will get in the way.
And no the fast scooters should be allowed but as mopeds with insurance but sitting should not be a demand, over 28 mph they should be classed as ultra light motorcycles.
What you are suggesting is wrong, most cities are going or gone to 20 mph by keeping scooters at 15 they will always get in the way and thus be a hazard.
From what I know, New York legalised escooters etc in December 2020 and their speed limits at 25-30 mph for escooters... Fking crazy that our government are trying to implement 15 mph... It's too dangerous to be that slow.
@@TheLondonCyclist Yep and if you look at the accident stats probably you would find that most of the cyclists that end up in accidents were creeping along.
Record numbers of accidents apparently last year.
So it would make good sense to at least give the capability to the riders to make up their own mind as to how fast they want to ride.
Personally I would say in the UK 20mph would just about be right for non registered vehicles, above this speed and you go into moped territory.
But even so perhaps have a system whereby you don't need insurance, but capable of moped speed pretty much like bicycles are capable now.
I am a car driver and believe me not all cyclists go fast so don’t talk rubbish
@@eddieroadrunner6691 Yes, you are correct. Most cyclists sit around 17mph. I my self who I could say is an advanced cyclist, I chill around 17mph most days, but I'll jump up to 25-30 if the road needs it.
@@flitsies I've never been an ebike rider, but I'm a fast road cyclist and I've been past by fat dudes on cheap Ebikes doing 25mph lol so yes, escooters need to be able to do 30mph or less to keep up with cars in main roads.
They should have that if you want to do above 15mph you need a driver's license.
Can’t you use it in your house
I've got a solar 50mph E scooter British made by a reputable British company it is the SUV of E scooters and has all the bells and whistles fob alarm system. front and rear lights with brake light and indicators Nutt hydraulic and electric braking system with swing arm and spring suspension 10 inch tubeless tyres a sine wave controller which gives you smooth acceleration l believe scooters such as mine should be made road legal because they are 100% safe to ride if ridden responsibly and within the legal framework ie insurance/provisional / tax and a clear way of identifying each scooter individually ie number plate or by some other system l cannot see why all E scooters cannot be made legal within the legal requirements.
On the 30th of November this year the scooter trials officially end
If they don't legalize them the next day ,all the 18.000 hire scooters will be illegal on the road
Realistically, can’t you just zoom away if police try to stop you, what are they going to do?
Call a helecopter
The main problem with these scooters is the really short wheelbase and tiny wheels which get unsettled on bad road surfaces (and the roads in UK cities are awful) - many of the basic models have braking on one wheel only. The versions with rear wheel braking have little stopping power and if it is front brake only it can easily throw a novice straight over the bars. If you buy an upmarket version with all these issues fixed (except none of them can handle potholes because of the tiny wheels) then you are looking at the same price as a decent e-bike.
Sorry, but if you encourage people to buy one you should stress that in some areas the police are clamping down on scooters and anyone that buys one for road use is taking the risk of a £50 fine or confiscation if they get caught again, .
Yes they are fun, but for the same money as a decent scooter with brakes and basic suspension you can buy an e-bike with far better stability due to the longer wheelbase, better brakes, and wheels that can handle bad road surfaces because they aren't tiny. You also won't face problems with the cops as restricted e-bikes are legal.
Sorry mate, but buying an e-scooter for fun is one thing, buying one for commuting or around town use isn't currently a viable option. Assuming you won't get stopped by police isn't a realistic assumption, so its only worth the risk if you have money to burn.
You definitely don't know what you are talking about. Why would anyone get an ebike ''for the same money''? Different types of vehicles exist for a reason. We don't all have the same needs, tastes and possibilities. Electric scooters are not dangerous, they can handle bad roads, they can slow down very well and even be comfortable. Before to spread lies you should inform yourself
@@robertocabras9604 No Robert - all scooters have REALLY short wheelbases and tiny wheels. They can't handle poor surfaces well because of the small wheels and the centre of gravity means hard braking isn't realistic. Physical laws disagree with your opinion.
@@philjones352 So how comes I am still alive after 2 years and 5000 miles riding mine every day on every kind of road? Yours are just opinions, leave phsysical laws alone
@@robertocabras9604 There are smackheads that are still alive after years of use. Not being dead doesn't mean scooters are stable and brake well.
You're welcome to your opinion. But physical laws do apply - unfortunately you don't understand them.
@@philjones352 I actually do understand them very well. Every vehicle has its own limits and capabilities, it's all about being aware of them and knowing what you are doing. You are clearly only trying to support your theory missing out on a few facts
You can be in court and prosecuted for not having insurance on a scooter
So you can be prosecuted for not having something that isn't available and doesn't exist 😰
and a pedal bike can go 40mph but its ok. they are just trying to tax fun and convenience again. give us money or pedal hard in the rain. cheers boris. he loves his photo opportunities riding his bike around London but of course or he has to do is is dial his chauffeur to get picked up when he gets out of puff
Welcome to the UK.
What should I do if I get stopped by police?
...say you doing trial runs in preparation for them becoming legal
Just get one and ride
I have been riding e scooter for about a year now here in Harrow London lol I haven't been stopped by police so far 😂
Exactly so after 30 hours I could of brought my own one ☝️ £599 lol
I'm 51 use it to go to work and this is now the end of 2022
I totally support this cause.
And yes I do already own and use a scooter.
Once this government works out how to make a penny from ALL scooter owners, then we will be aloud to use them.
Wait forever might be legal , everything in gray , God knows whom is responsible to answer .... still I have no idea if I ride my electric scooter on the public is it illegal or police does not want to know , mean time many people on electric scooters on the road .
I feel sorry for UK people they can't even enjoyed scooters this will help them save gas money. This is perfect for transportation here in America scooters are not illegal people enjoyed them this needs to change. Is UK still lives in Ice Age? It's just a scooters is not a big deal is not a crime.
20p per minute is disgusting. That’s £12 per hour, most people don’t even earn that much
Government: let’s run a test scheme for scooters, well do it during full lockdown when nobody is supposed to be out...... government: let’s restrict speeds to 15 mph, great if you weigh 3 stone but if you’re a 20 stone body builder you’ll end up pushing it because it will never carry you....
What the hell is wrong with this country? Consider this statement “ if it works, if of any use, if it’s good or usable in any way, the UK government will ban it”
I am young and have mobility issue and can't bend my legs to ride an E bike my E scooter is fab but Illegal, what an upside down world we live in.
The quick answer is no, not yet. Saved watching the video.
so its ilegal to have 1 but if its getting the goverment money its fine it dont make sense
No. I have a 5kW electric scooter and it is legal. It has number plates, MoT and V5 and INSURANCE. 55mph.
How much does it cost you to be fully road legal?
@@strich7385 already had a m/c licence, insurance was about £250/yr, I MoT'd the bike this Jan for ~£30. the scooter has a max. speed 60mph (96-98km/h) slipstreaming on the motorway (or with a tail wind!)
@@JohnSmith-vz8pc i have a full license, I wanna make mine road legal that'd be fucking awesome cruising around unbothered 🤣💯!
Cheers for the info, I thought they make it impossible to make them road legal
It's all about the government and them being money hungry again not about safety concerns you use a car to commute to work you need to pay for fuel and road tax parking ect tolls the lost goes on you ride an e scooter for your own convenience you won't be filling their pockets this is why they don't want them to be legal unless they can make money from them
are yours legal or illegal 🤔
Renting is better for me.
Gave you thumb up.
I am glad you didn't push "save the planet" BS.
It is sad but true - unless gov thieves find a way to tax your scooter (read steal) i truly doubt they will become leagal.
What is the excuse of rental scooters being legal... Tax and insured. How come bicycles are excluded from this?
I do not want tax bicycles but rather release any PME make it legal. Lets limit by law to 20mph and we should all have cheep transport. But hold on, how blood sucking polititians will live... If huge taxes from fuel are minimised as income to those parasites.
They should be legalised
Why is it that electric bicycle don’t have these problems
If anyone challenges you just ride off at full speed in the opposite direction! The laws in this country are an absolute joke. E-scooters are relatively new yet a crackpot law from the 19th century applies. You couldn’t make it up! Welcome to bonkers Britain!
We buy a normal bike or scooter once yet we can have accidents with or without a motor…. Lol