Why illegal electric scooters are here to stay in the UK
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ส.ค. 2024
- Despite their legality, electric scooters have fast become a firm favourite for personal, independent travel in the UK. Eilis takes a look at why e-scooters have become so popular and what the future holds for these PEVs.
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I subbed. More escooter related videos would be great. 👍🏻
I’m feeling decent today please could I get the electrical scooter you don’t know how much it will help me in my day to day life 😌
No difference between bike and scooter so fxck em.
How that work e scooters are illegal unless you hire one from council double standards me thinks
'stop being environmentally friendly in a way we cant tax you'
You mean like the way you dont pay tax on low emition cars?
@@garyfreeman896 i lost a few brain cells reading that
@@RSmerlinRS They were missing already if you think that the laws are there to protect there steady income from the people when they made all zero emition vehicles road tax free in 2017. Doesnt matter if you drive an electric car, bus or truck.
@@garyfreeman896 but there’s no ongoing taxes on e-scooters?
@@therealgdmstr Why would there be? They are zero emition. Look my point is there are people in this thread that think electric scooters being illegal on public streets and roads is to fleece the public for more tax (road and fuel). But, people in the uk already pay no road tax on zero emition vehicles. So regardless if it's a scooter, a car or a bus you dont pay tax. They are simply illigal due to the facts that they have no vehicle classification and they are not very safe. You cant ride them on pavements safely as they generally travel much quicker than the average pedestrian. They cant be on the road as the are a powered vehicle and have no insurance. They are also not built for road use so tiny wheels, terrible centre of gravity and geometry basically mean they would be dangerous. To be honest dont ride like an idiot and be careful where you ride you will probably be fine.
Light EV's are literally the solution we've been dreaming of for car replacement, and now that they're finally a viable technology, they try to prevent it rather than encourage and improve it.
250W electric motors are perfectly legal for bicycles, but not for push scooters, this isn't just unfair, it is detached from both REALITY AND COMMON SENSE
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@Marcus Grant government shill. I never knew getting hit at 15mph would be life threatening. Oh thats right Boris is still in the process of creating those ldn cycle lanes to prevent road casualties. Ahh cycle lanes would be an amazing compliment for all us still riding Santander bikes
Welcome to the uk where laws don't have to make sense
E bikes still have to be pedalled. They are electric assist. And assist stops at 16mph
Bit of a difference..... A push bike with a electric motor attached assist the rider where as a E scooter is a motorized vehicle... Like a car or motorbike...... But yet mobility scooter things don't need Mot or tax or insurance and get ridden all over the place including the motorway 🤣 so it is what it is here in the land of stupid laws lol
The law is an ass when it comes to electric vehicles, they want us out of our cars , socially distanced and not burning fossil fuels, while criminalising anyone who uses an electric alternative. I have a Chinese electric kids dirt bike (yeah, I'm small for 50!), it has hydraulic disc brakes, I've added lights front and back, including brake light, utilising a 12v DC converter. I've also added indicators, with running lights, a horn, wing mirrors, electric key-lock with volt-meter, plus upgraded the controller and battery and I love it. I take my son to school on it (well when not in lock-down!), we also go down the local park as well as the beach. No petrol, no fumes, no oil, no noise and no acid as it's Lithium-Ion, so what's the problem? Come on UK, sort your life out and get with the electric 21st century!
The government earns shit tons of money off cars and especially petrol and diesel so they don’t want people to be able to get out of cars and onto scooters when it means they lose so much money.
@@tadassmolskas3014 Well it always boils down to money when any government is involved. I'll happily pay £10 PA road tax and similar for insurance if it enables disabled people like me the ability to get about without getting abuse from pedestrians or a criminal record from the police. As it happens, I'm now having to go back to using the car due to ignorant bigots complaining to the school. Fine if they want another car on the road at rush hour / school drop off causing congestion & pollution and parked on yellow lines as I have a blue badge, no problem, I thought what I was doing was better, but if I'm just going to get abuse for it, then there is no point in trying to be greener and healthier!
@@tadassmolskas3014 Wrong, yes they do but they want people to buy Electric Cars, there are big changes coming.
@@Military872 But still in London for example an electric scooter is way more practical for such an overcrowded city. You can park 20 scooters in one parking space so imagine the amount of space saved on parking and on the roads but the government doesn’t want that to happen so that they can tax much more expensive cars, even if they are electric eventually they’ll charge road tax for those too.
Just pensioners trying to get out of the way of children riding them on pavements.
I ride mine to work everyday and it takes me less then 10 mins. Previously it would take me 25mins to get the bus as I'd have a 10 min walk to the bus stop then the bus would stop 5 or 6 times on the way, plus it was £2.50 each way. Best thing I have ever bought.
Worth mentioning, police have driven past me when I am using it on cycle lanes next to the road and I've never been stopped. I do wear a high vis.
@@samboktilley6481 still no police involvement to date?
@@lanceflanagan Yep, I'd say on over 20 occasions the police have driven past me in marked cars and a few times I've seen undercovers too. I live in a suburban town policed by Avon & Somerset Constabulary. I haven't heard of any prosecutions from the local or friends many of which have e scooters.
@@samboktilley6481 hi I'm getting one for work as there is no parking and bus £5.00 a day . A joke.
I'm just little stressed it's going to get me with points and a fine or my £400 scooter taken off me.
@@theeggster Depending on the police in your area you don't have to worry. Aslong as you are wearing safety gear, drive sensibly you'll be fine. Police just yesterday popped their head out of a marked car and said "you shouldn't really be riding that on the road" but drove off. I will avoid riding on that busy road again and have found an alternative route. Just be switched on about it and you'll be fine.
owning an escooter made my life so much easier, electricity is included in the rent so it's 100% free transportation anywhere i want as it has a 60 km range and most stores etc agree to let you take it inside i have not once needed to lock it down and never will
Great, so theft is nearly not an issue.
Which one do you have?
Why do you rent the e-scooter if you own it? And if you do rent it then the electric is not free you have paid for it.
@@GCJNash he means the electricity used to charge his scooter up at home is free because it is included in the rent so no extra charges
Boris: *clicks on video* bloody rapscallions
It's wild to me that these are illegal in the UK. Love riding my Onewheel in DC and scooters are everywhere here.
Due to a law from 1845 which is ridiculous, the main reason I can see like anything else for the gov wanting to not make it legal is purely because they cannot make money on it and are scared of losing money on public transport. They can't fight hundreds of thousands of people wanting to use them.
Cuz our government want a slice!! That’s why the rental ones are fine 💰💰💰💰
They’re everywhere in the UK too despite the illegal status
Same problem here in the Netherlands (you know...on the other side of the pond :P)
Scooters, Onewheels, EUC's everything is illegal here. We are fighting for it to get it legalised
They’re not illegal at all,you just can use them on public highways just like skateboards and bloody good too
As the guy with the Nike Air top near the end of the vid says, it's also older people.
I'm 68, and had my first (and only) experience when I hired one for the day on a trip to Valencia in Sept. Took minutes to feel comfortable and then had way more fun than someone my age should be entitled to. Wanted to get one when I got home, but the laws put me off.
I've just retired to Spain and I'll be using one for exploring the region once the weather improves (it's unusually cold atm). I live in a small town south of Valencia and public transport is practically non existant. An e-scooter will be an invaluable addition to my quality of life, with none of the legality problems of the UK.
You'd be better off with a folding e bike, more power,safer more comfortable and longer range.
I am 60 and I have two E-scooters. I live in a village in Yorkshire and every time I go out on one I get nothing but smiles from people. It is for us older ones to set an example, and let's face it if I get stopped I'm going to get away with it anyway.😁
@@shawng5799' I'm old. Forgive me' is my go to excuse for everything Shawn 😅
@@RABIDJOCK E bikes in Spain are limited to a 250W motor. Electric scooters don't have that limit, as long as its max speed is limited to 25km/h.
Yes I will be leaving UK when I have chance (all the government does is tax and ban) - it's ridiculous - you're paying through the teeth for food when it grows in the ground
Government: makes car transportation expensive af
People: Buy scooters that don't require any of those slavery taxes
Government:
people like the idea of NO RULES, NO TAXES but cry like a little baby asking for state help when ANYTHING happens....
@@galc9293 /Woooooo ease up thats to much of a generalization!
Tax evaders: come on Boris, get on with it. Build them little yellow brick roads.
And also: Damm that truck nearly decapitate me, that was clo... SPLAT
I saw one go into a guy on a Ducati motorcycle and run off after leaving thousands of pounds of damage on it. Plus thieves will love them so expect your grandma to get mugged more often.
@@jamescoughlan9881 must be an OAP
I work shifts as a porter for the nhs and i used to ride my bike to work, i'd get to work sweaty and then have to walk miles and miles on my shift. One day i finished at 10 on the night and my bike had been stolen. After this i bought an e scooter and never looked back my route hasnt changed its just like riding a bike except i dont get knackered on the hills and i can store it in the locker rooms under a bench so i dont have to worry about it being stolen. A few of my college's have bought scooters now where previously they spend loads on taxis.
They are the future of transport and during this pandemic has been my lifeline of getting to work and back with my crazy shift patterns. But i still worry about being penalised for riding one as to me its no more dangerous than riding a bike.
Well the difference is the bike is better for your health, especially for your heart. So it depends on what you want.
Better for health, true - but remember that nobody ever says that about people who take the bus or train. Also I try to remind people that nobody wants to arrive to work or meetings sweaty. If there are shower facilities then that's great but 99 of 100 times there wouldn't be, and then micromobility is a fantastic solution! ☺
@@mpq2394 .. and cycling EVERY day there & back becomes a chore. The scooter isn't. I cycle for fitness on days off or after work. Simple. (PS. print off a logo from a rental firm & stick it on your scooter, police will think it's rented & legal ;0)
They are not the future of transport. We have to recognise the terrible epidemic "Obesity". London, for example, has and is becoming more Bike friendly and convenient (bike lanes etc) . As adults we have a responsibility to our children to keep them fit and active, not enable their lazy ways and bad habits . Riding bicycles has got to be the way forward. Japan is a great example how riding bikes and eating sensibly keeps society fitter and the hospitals free from obese related illnesses....
@@libbad7419I love to exercise, but on my way to work in the blazing summer to do a job where i walk 20k steps plus no thanks. I prefer my scooter and scooter like vehicles are the future most cars are huge and most of the time only have one person im them, that causes congestion and more pollution. I get it, bikes are the healithiest and greenest way to get about but most people are too fkin lazy lol
The future of E-scooters is connected to the importance of segregated cycling infra.
Where I live there's old pensioners using them to zip about. E-Scooters aren't just for the young youth culture. They are for everyone! It's a leveller. When I am out on mine other electroheads nod or wave or stop to chat. Including the Old People on them.
Surely mobility scooters with _4_ wheels?
Great, they have there benefits. But the uk is getting Sooo inactive and obese. It's a epidemic. Surely the parent is responsible for their kids health. They should be buying them a Bicycle, not a E scooter.
@@Alexander-jr8nw so can pedal cycles. They don’t seem to be regulated though.
How come in the UK we're allways last to embrace new technologies! If some people had their way we'd still be in the Stone age. Just keep them of the pavements hey.
Sometimes you have to go on the pavement for your own safety.
The same with cycling.
Its ridiculous given how years ago we were the innovators bringing the world the TV the phone etc. Now we live in a country who are more interested in revenue generation than what's best for the people.
I personally don’t like them, either ban them completely including their sale, or make them legal on the roads like a bicycle.
Dylan Clements
.....i prefer them off the road as most users have zero road sense......same with on pavements..........best in cycle lanes where possible otherwise pavement.......also feel road use is too dangerous with buses,lorrys and some drivers (who dont have road sense either)
In my opinion this demonization has nothing to do with the electric scooters becoming a real mobility alternative, nor the safety for users and pedestrians resultant of its usage. As most of the times, this is a matter of money. You stop paying public transport, the taxes from fuel, insurance, etc. while on the other hand you demand a new infrastructure. An imbalance to the public accounts they don't know how to revert.
I believe it has nothing to do with public transport or tax. The amount of people who use these is tiny in the grand scheme of things. Let's just say Toyota, Ford and Volkswagen are definitely not shitting them selves over the electric scooter market dominating private transport in the future. I believe it's a safety thing myself.
Just bc we want cycling infrastructure doesn't mean we're gonna get em anytime soon, if ever
@@ronloc3309 I cant speak for other countries but here in the UK most major cities are having big changes to their transport infrastructure to support a more cycle friendly road network. Also cycle sales are up by over 60% here.
Honestly this video is too true, even e bikes bang it gets me everywhere especially with people who have lost their jobs or have low income it helps a lot to go
Keep on riding!
I got an ebike last summer as the my cycle to work scheme wouldn't cover an e-scooter (because it was illegal) I love my e-bike.
Reminds me of the way the uk deal with cannabis, we love it and some actually need it, but the people who don’t need it or care for it make it a problem!
It's funny how tobocco is allowed and even 99% alcohol which can f* u up till death but Weed and Escooters are the "True Devils" by the Goverments...
I agree. And I think much of the reason for demonising escooters and weed is that many of the users are not "middle classes or white". I know lots of people use escooters but whenever I hear complaints, they're often citing some "youth, or guy coming from an estate" etc. Also Britain (usually older British, the ones who have the wealth and are in positions of power) have a natural fear to change and different.
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Because our UK government is full of out touch twats
@@WiewiurTV 99% alcohol is useful for certain people *Cleaning products*
I'm from the Philippines. Pre-COVID, my daily commute averages at around a 5-hour round-trip. Then the Pandemic hit, and I needed to buy one to enforce Social Distancing. Now from home to office and back, 2 hours is a leisurely ride.
I live in Scotland only one bus per hour Monday till Friday no bus Saturday or Sunday looks like I could have fun again even at my age of 69 yr
THEY SHOULD LEGALIZE ELECTRIC SCOOTERS ASAP, TO BE HONEST ITS ALL ABOUT GOVERMENT REVENUE
100%
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The goverment are suppose to do the will of the people. which they dont so they are a public enemy
The police don't care and some of the kids in the video were surprised to hear that
I live in surrey and recently I was riding my electric scooter and was pulled over by the police and told that I could have received three points on my provisional for driving without insurance
FYI even if you dont have a licence you can get points on your licence (they are held on record). Also driving without insurance is a minimum 6 points not 3. If you get penalty points for no insurance, it will be hard to get quotes for it later on and will be very expensive. Its considered a capital offence for insurers.
Police is this country have lost the plot, they love giving fines and having their ego massaged
Well just make sure you get one that can outrun the cops! Some can do 80mph!
@@gregandkaruna6674 but also costs £7000 hahaha
Yes asked them to point out what insurance as there aren’t any until July the 4th once the will hopefully make them legal????
In the past month I've noticed electric scooter rides riding past police vans without any retribution. I'm a daily car driver and occasional cyclist but seriously thinking about an electric scooter for the summer, especially as my workplace is 5 minutes away. E-scooter insurance via cycleplan is cheap too, £30-£100 annually.
The police really don’t care I’ve driven past more officers than I can count and not one of them have given me any trouble. One of my friends got a talking too when he was riding around the busy local centre like a pillock but that’s all. They’re great fun even though mine only goes about 20
How can they be a company out there insuring something that's illegal in the eyes of the law unless you use it on private land . Surly this company isn't only insuring people for private land . i wouldn't bother paying £100 until they become legal in the eyes of the law as your paying for nothing surly ??
@@YorkshireTripper. yeah I reckon it’s probably for damage to the scooter but might be invalidated if used in public
Some many young people using them! Ffs, out of all my modes of transport i own! i adore my lecky scooter at 65 and looking to upgrade all the time! Even before ime outta the sack in the morning ime looking forward to jumping on to nip up to the paper shop! Hearing people trying to make excuses up ie. bringing covid into the equation! "why" !
James Coughlan
...im same James.....i am disabled with copd and arthritis in hips and knees......walking gets very difficult........sometimes i cant get parked close enough to where i want to go so i keep a scooter in the boot as it saves me getting breathless and sore knees....i got my scooter just before the winter and have used it everyday....Also makes me feel young again LOL
@@geoffdundee Agreed Geoff spech with the latter part of your reply! Probably cant be construed as exercise but i will say these scooters make you stand upright when riding seems like you cant ride these in any other position! The stretch feeling of that upright posture on the move is a great feel factor and does wind back the years!
@@jamescoughlan9881 .....yup its not physical exercise but youve to keep your wits about you and its good for fresh air......didnt know they were illegal...wonder if my car insurance covers scooter transport LOL.
@@geoffdundee The law is a touch on the vague side at the mo and its not being enforced to a degree! I live in West London and they are everywhere day & nite! A couple of younger chaps educated me on "knowing your local alleyways" so much to say when in doubt of a pull, nip up one!! Me thinks more of an adrenalin rush but hilarious to! "especially with a curry takeaway on board! Losooof#@%ing Loud
Getting my scooter in a couple of days seems so much more convenient than public transport
You'll love it!!!!!
Welcome to the family bud 👍🏻
Yeah no more sitting near smelly people!
You’re gonna get this crazy feeling of freedom. Enjoy it
Icl I bought one yesturday
I can see the advantages and the problems. But all of the problems can be dealt with to allow legalising these as a viable means of getting around.
@@spamham964 burn the council escooters to send a message.
I've been riding my scooter about for a year and half (I'm in Newham as well, as it goes) and I've only been stopped by the Old Bill once. And that was because he wanted to know how far they went between charges and how much they cost because he wanted to buy one. I think that as long as you're not tearing around like a div, they won't waste their time.
Just paid £190 to get mine out the police compound 🤬🤬🤬 yesterday
Been riding my xiaomi m365 pro for about 18 months now in the city to go college and back and out in the countryside for groceries to my local town. Ive saved thousands of euros on transport. Only stopped 1 time but no issues. Very highly recommended for college students to save a lot of money
EDIT: Ive got about 6k kilometers ridden
I use mine to go around all the time so much more convenient to get around
It's called lazy. You're lazy. Watch wall-e, that will be you.
@@2484marshall but I'm not lazy though my job is as a dance performer and I go to the gym regularly and work out so no I wouldn't say its a lazy thing. Cos you could say the same thing about cars
@@2484marshall why’s it lazy? I still take my mountain bike out when I just want to ride for fun but when you’re commuting you get hot and sweaty when cycling so electric scooters are a way better option. Anyway how is riding and electric scooter any more lazy than the 99% of people who drive cars?
@@tadassmolskas3014 Indeed, I have a road bike, an ebike, a scooter and a car. The car hardly gets used nowadays.
2484marshall but if someone use a car they not lazy
I recently bought one. My office is looking for us to start returning to the office in the coming months and my options are a crowded train, my car, or potentially a quicker, free, and environmentally friendly e-scooter. It’s a no brainer. There’s even a wide canal path that takes me 80% of the way there. So regardless of what the government says, I’ll be scooting to work.
If you've got room on your driving licence for the points, and you've got insurance - you are after all using a motor vehicle - then I don't see any problem.
@@Brian-om2hh are you simply stating the current position of the government, or do you also think its right that they are treated more like a 1500kg vehicle capable of 100mph+ and going through somebodys living room if they lost control, rather than treating them like a bicycle and the potential risks they bring?
Haha you fools, illegal for private ownership but it’s ok for scooter rental. Is the light
If you own your own mobility them it makes it harder for them to control you...
Edit: I just realised this came off as one of those 'they' (in brackets) statements. I was referring to the government, not since shadowy cabal.
You had me at 'landed gentry' 😂
I'm imagining Prince Charles doing zoomies around Buckingham Palace.
Don't think Prince Charles would be able to ride one, his ears would cause too much drag
The issue is, people using them on pavements at high speeds, theres always these idiots who do that.
Exactly so, and a nuisance to disabled people who are legally allowed to use wheelchair on pavements.
Same with cyclists. Hate it when cyclists cycle on the pavement when they're not suppose to (please cyclists use the road or cycle lanes, stop using the pavement where possible) or when cyclists cycle too slow in the road. But I would support the legalisation of E-scooters.
@@imanepink some cycle routes do use the pavement there is a road bridge near us which is above motorway and the bridge is narrow.
Their is a cycle route to go on pavement for a temporary period.
Cyclists stay on the road though on this narrow bridge and cars are having to swerve to avoid hitting them.
@@MTCoblivsicas12345 no I see cyclists use the pavement even when it's a regular high street road (so no motorway, no bridge etc). Please cyclists use the road! Stop using the pavement, same with E-scoot riders unless you have a disability or are a young child (so not teen)!
@@MTCoblivsicas12345 i have no issues with cycle lanes on pavements, I have an issue with experienced cyclists (especially teens in particular who seem to be scared I assume of cycling in the road) cycling on the pavement when they're not suppose to (nuisance to pedestrians and disabled people).
Literally the only concern I'd have with an electric scooter is how the smaller wheels would perform on poorly surfaced/ pot holed roads. Will stick with my bicycle (and sometimes car for longer journeys), but I 100% agree that they should be made road legal, preferably in the same/ similar category as bicycles. :)
Get one of the scooters with fat tyres, they look like they'll cope with a lot of abuse.
Very insightful video, almost feels like a full-on news report.
Except it didn't mention the loophole in the title
In Romania the government legalized their use about a year ago. You need to use bicycle tracks, were you don't have them, you can ride on the road side (in areas were the maximum allowed speed is 50 KM) and the scooter's speed must be limited to 25 KM.
I think the problem with electric scooters (for a more mature gentleman like me) is the number of electric scooters used on the pavement. A virtually silent vehicle passing you at 10+ mph is a bit scary sometimes.
Yes - and sometimes it can be far higher than 10mph. We need to build new infrastructure for these vehicles, as people clearly want to use them.
The general users of scooters are in the same speed profile of a cyclist. The very top end escooters can do 40-50 mph and I can see why people should be forced to have insurance of some kind if they want to use the 35 mph or lower roadways. But the majority of people are the ones going 16-20 mph which is no faster than a cyclist on a normal bike.
If e-scooters are made legal, but insurance, road-only riding and helmet wearing are compulsory, will they be so popular? Bicycles have been around for more than 150 years yet the UK's cycle infrastructure is poor. Can we safely add e-scooters onto our roads? We cannot ignore e-scooter popularity, but neither can we ignore the need for road (and pavement/footpath) safety.
Need cycle, scooter lanes
@@jacobbryant1357 will we need electric motorcycle lanes too?
@@steve00alt70 nah electric motorcycles go with general traffic.
Only in Central London is it possible outside its impossible there's no space on the roads people use the pavement
@@mz4ever123 And outside London and city centres generally the reality is riding on the pavements is fine. I cant help but notice when I drive across town the reality is that more than half a mile outside the town centre the pavements are almost entirely empty, probably averaging less than 1 person per 100 meters once you're further away from the shopping areas that people are generally willing to walk, and thats where the vast majority of people actually live, overall its a small proportion of the population that live in busy shopping areas and in those places they should stay off the pavements and theres often lower speed limits because of all the pedestrians where you're fine on the road even if theres no cycle lane, but for the remaining 95% of the country pavements are fine, as most of that is quiet residential areas where the roads are also generally quiet
These things are brilliant. We got a Xoami Pro. The build quality is excellent and the in built safety features are also excellent. Onboard lights, disk brakes, safety cut out, speedo, speed limited. Way safer than a pushbike all ways round.
The BIG issue is safe use. I drive a large commercial vehicle daily in London. Some scooter riders are copying the worst behaviour of bad cyclists: riding at night dressed head to toe in black with no lights, and making up their own “Highway Code”. If you undertake a conventional vehicle at night with no HiVis or lights, you are completely invisible to a driver when he checks his mirrors. I’ve had it happen to me, and I’ve been passed on the inside in a very narrow lane, with the scooter rider squeezing between steel road side barriers and my Luton.This behaviour will get you killed or injured. Any driving instructor will tell you there is so much more to learn about using the roads once you’ve passed a Driving Test, yet these scooters (and cycles) are being used by completely inexperienced people with no hazard awareness training.
I have an escooter for about 5 years in London, but since last year noticed that there are many new riders who don't bother to turn the lights on, they are bloody invisible on the roads waiting for the accident to happen.
That's true. My friend was also one of the first adoptors of the e scooter but decided to get an e bike because so many people are idiots on how they use their e scooter. He's got a nine bot max which he occasionally uses however
We’re saving batteries g
@@Joeldo._ how much does it save? Like I get 13 miles out of my pro 2 (I'm kind of heavy at 99kg) . Could it add another mile or 2 you think?
@@Joeldo._ Are you willing to risk your life for 2 extra minutes of riding? As a motorist I can tell you that you are invisible even with street lights on and especially in bad weather, which is basically everyday in UK. If you are so concerned about your battery the buy separate rechargeable light.
@@UnseenSpirit I think most people do this to be less visible to the police. keeping the lights off should save not enough battery life to be worth it in the night.
If theyre registered it should be ok and max speed of 25mph.... but they also need lights and indicators to be on the road....
Agreed, have a registration and max 25mph with it treated like a bicycle.
But bicycles can go that fast and don't have indicators, why are they different from cycles?
@@Slash1066 in the UK you can legally not have indicators but you have to use hand signals. This would be rather difficult with such a small handlebar don't you think? Plus it's generally a lot smaller to see plus if you don't treat them like a serious vehicle then it will become chaotic trying to avoid driving over random scooters going all over the place ... It's a bad idea to let anyone have them. There's always the few that abuse it and ruin it for the rest...
@@johnnyboy2459 I take your point, but cyclists never indicate. It's just something that doesn't happen any more. Most scooters have lights and reflectors. My Mi certainly does. 20kms flat out, it's hard to see how it's a menace, but I live in a village with almost no traffic, in a city its more an issue. I just think they are worth the minor inconvenience. Cheap eco friendly travel, no parking issues. Maybe a registration scheme like drones did would work. UK spec scooters with the right lights.
Plus a licence and insurance........
Very handy, but i sold mine because i just had strange aches and pains in my knees after a while. The vibration also gave me pins and needles
you should get one with better suspension
@@cokomairena this is true!
Great video, What I can say from my perspective that the electric scooters are future and should be legalised a long time ago, I use my scooter every day, Traveling to and from work and I do ride almost everywhere, Safest and fastest way nowadays to travel around the city not to mention the pure fun and joy of riding one in sunny day.
I started working at Asda when lockdown hit in England and I do a morning shift starting at 2am which is essentially night time, no one is around especially since it's so dark, riding it to work is so useful and practical, saves me like 20 minutes from walking there, and saves my legs extra work. I can't drive annoyingly cause I was taking lessons before lockdown took effect and essentially life shut down. This was one of my best investments. The funniest thing though is the police in my area don't even care, they have seen me on it around 7 times by my count now and not once have I been told to stop or been fined etc. It's mostly a horror story that no law enforcement enforces. People are prats for trying to enforce it really. I understand the need for correct etiquette though, absolutely drive it where it's safe, avoid Peds where possible, treat it like a bicycle really. English people shouldn't worry about the police too much they have more important things to worry about. (Again in my experience)
Damn i have one comming on Tuesday an was told if your not being a prat on it an go on back roads i will be fine only 2and abit miles to collage an back
In Bristol the only issue i find with the e scooter is the ridings lack of understanding of rules of the road. From red light ,1 ways road , junction and roundabout
My partner got one at the start of the pandemic, unfortunately her own error she was riding on the road and got a watery eye from the cold air she misjudged the height of the kurb and clipped it breaking her leg, so I used it for 3 months whilst she was recovering and to be honest it was so handy to have even just to pop to local shops etc, I only use it on the pavement because I personally don't trust drivers in cars or other vehicles they're often far worse and more dangerous than a smaller portion of people on scooters. I simply try to be courteous to pedestrians and thankfully I've not had an accident yet, I'll also say this if a bike is about to crash it's much harder to dismount hence more dangerous than a scooter is. On one occasion I was coming around a corner at the slowest speed maybe 4kmh because it was a tight turn and a lady stepped around the corner st the same time, luckily because it was a scooter I was able to jump off stopping the scooter immediately and avoided hitting her or hurting myself.
A bicycle is safer than an e scooter imo. The e scooter has small wheels and is not as stable. It's also harder to do hand singles on wjt way to turn on an e scooter since most require a right hand on the accelerator button...
@@UnseenSpirit it's easier to check for cars behind you on a scooter plus they can accelerate faster initially and you can jump off much quicker if you know you're going to crash. Just compare how many deaths have occurred with bikes vs scooters so far to my knowledge only 1 death has occurred on a scooter in the last year
@@rob2549 the smaller wheels on an e scooter are more dangerous. Riding onto a curb on a bicycle or e scooter, I'd choose bicycle all day.
It is easier to see behind you on an e scooter, but it's sufficient on a bicycle. However what is ahead is always more of my concern.
As for jumping off, yes I agree.
It's a lot easier to signal on a bicycle when turning however since you can't use your right hand without slowing down on an e scooter...
As for deaths, you need to look at how many cyclists there are compared to e scooter riders obviously and not just the numbers since there are far less e scooter riders out there.
@@UnseenSpirit there are more escooter riders than you're aware of scooter sales are up over 400% since March. You can choose a bike if you like but I've been riding an escooter for a number of months luckily never had an accident. I know someone who cycles regularly and only last week a car crashed into him now he's unable to cycle because he's broken his leg and is in a full cast. I personally don't use my scooter on the roads due to not trusting other road users as they drive like mental cases. If you keep an eye out for bumps in the road or pavement generally you should be fine
@@rob2549 sales are up yes, but still far more bicycles than e scooters.
42 percent of the UK population has access to a bicycle, so say 25 million... Compared to e scooters which in October was estimated to be 200k... So maybe less than 1 million own e scooters.
I have a xiaomi pro 2 already.
I have 5 bicycles (2 Bromptons, a hybrid, a cross country, and a road bike)
1 motorcycle
2 cars.
The least safe for me is an e scooter because I can't direct that I am turning right without letting go of the accelerator.
Because the wheels simply aren't as stable being 8.5 inches.
I haven't got an e bike, but may do one day.
E scooters to me are not as stable as a bicycle, even the Brompton which has 16 inch wheels. E scooters have 8 inch wheels...
A front wheel drive e scooter can slip going uphill if weight is not correctly places on the board.
Perhaps your wife would not have broken her leg on a bicycle which is much more forgiving on curbs? There are always pro's and con's but for me a bicycle is safer if ridden defensively.
BRILLIANT, it’s not just the YOUTH I am 61 had a THUNDER for 2 years and absolutely love it, I bought a seat costing £250 never put it on never want to, if would spoil my fun, I don’t ride on pavements and I am all leathered up. Keep up the good work.
Got one for commuting, its really great how easy you get through town. Ride my bike most days, but if im really tired or sore, I'll use it and love it!
My Escooter is super useful to me when shopping and super good to store in the house, I even used it today.
Also is that the Google voice?! Lol.
Haha, you're not the first person to say that about the Google Voice!
@@Electroheads Haha lol!
@Electroheads I have the UK's first fully *Road Legal E-Scooter* and have knowledge on how all E-Scooters can be legalised. I also have an understanding of why they are not legal in the UK, there are two main reasons and *No* one of the reasons is not down to a law from the 1800's. It would be straight forward to implement legal E-Scooters, of course parts of this implementation would be unpopular but necessary. E-scooters are a win for the government and a win for people of the UK, other Micro-mobility devices could also be addressed, but the E-Scooter is perfectly positioned to lead the permanent change for urban mobility.
The only fully road legal e scooters are the type that are mopeds and comply with motorcycle laws. Not really an e-scooter as in the type in the video.
@@timscott3027 thanks for the reply I have the type that is in the video, which is fully road legal. Also just to make to aware all e-scooters should ethier be a moped or a motorbike.
@@frederickoparah1669 it can't be legal mate, what is the name of it? The only e scooters that are legal are ones like niu moped style scooters. Unless it meets motorcycle requirements and has number plate lights in a certain place, indicators, Speedo etc I don't know all of them.
@@timscott3027 Thanks, it's a dualtron thunder, it has a vin number, registration plate, and is registered with the dvla
@@frederickoparah1669 good luck telling the police that. So you added indicators and mounted the number plate and moved the rear light so it's not blocked etc and then registered it as a one off motorcycle and got insurance sorted out? It looks like an awesome scooter though.
The trial scheme has shown in my area has shown that many can't be trusted, blasting around pavements and riding them were they shouldn't. I like them but people don't use them responsibly
If ppl are spending £350+ on one to use for commuting they are a lot more responsible. The trial scooters cost a few quid to use so ppl don't care about them as much in my opinion.
Long time electric unicycle rider but mine broke just as lock down began. My new one is arriving from PET on Tuesday and your film has reminded just how much fun and freedom it is going to bring. Thank you
I really like this scooters is going to be useful for youths in the future 🤩👍
Eh!.......the speed limit of an electric bike is 15.5mph, on a public road. These can't be legally ridden on a road + pavements are for pedestrians.....Crack down coming.
I hear they're cracking down on illegal ebikes in London
www.reddit.com/r/deliveroos/comments/l7qdzf/the_witchhunt_for_illegal_ebikes_began_in_london
How the young boy rides with confidence despite the illegality of E scooters , I use mine for short trips, it has light I always wear a helmet and got my provisional licence and took out Liability insurance and I never go above 20mph. I have not as yet been stopped but I have passed police cars and my heart does race for fear of getting pulled. But I think because I ride responsibly they don’t seem bothered actually, maybe I got lucky or maybe it’s not worth their time, who knows but I hate having to look over my shoulder all the time
Regarding adaptation, I'd like to see some three-wheeled e-scooters, where the two back wheels house a shopping/delivery basket, with a kind of swivel hinge on the back to keep that basket steady and level.
Legalise it and make infrastructure would be brilliant , same for ebikes etc, reason it's not being done is simply money, once the government figure out a way to get money from you whilst you ride it they will legalise it.
I build and ride ebikes up I Yorkshire and I build and fly rc planes etc, been doing both for many years never hurt anyone but now that lots of people do "drone flying " the Gov suddenly monetise it with rules regs and licences etc.
They would tax our feet if they could.
@Oddjob6120 yep, people just spoil it by being idiots.
I could see the Tories cracking down on this soon. All it takes is some old people and Karens to complain and there could be a crackdown overnight.
What is the difference between me kick pushing my non electric scooter at 15 mph or 25 mph downhill Vs a 15 mph electric scooter or an e bike doing 15 plus mph or a lycra clad racing bike doing 30 mph ..e scooters are fine as long as they are ridden responsibly helmet etc ....
"Legislation, infrastructure AND a proper/ongoing awareness/safety campaign - "Speed bumps means SLOW DOWN", "No helmet? NO WAY!" "Others use the bike lane/road too" and so on. Superb report - well done and thank you.
The biggest problem in UK is the lobby of Transport of London and Cab drivers...they lobby Gov not to pass the law. Its all about money not about health or care for public. I was ridding to work for the past 4 years ...yet Police finally stopped me and give me fine ...next time they said they will confiscate my scooter and ( £400 fine ) 6points on my licence. PO said to me they are not legal cos they are not safe ...well 4y of ridding and i don’t think they are different to any other bicycle. People who say they are dangerous are like people 100y ago who said cars will kill all the people.
100% agree with this! Make them legal. If they have to be limited to a certain speed and/or wattage fair enough.
I would happily pay to actually insure mine for use on the road but I am unable to. Nobody will insure them. The law needs updating!
They were illegal in NYC until like August 2nd 2020 but I’ve seen a few well before that. But top speed has to be 20mph and no more to be considered an e scooter and falling in line with the law.
Wow! I can see why contraception has failed over the years, judging by the way most people in this interview wear their masks incorrectly.......
Very well put together video non bias. Keep up the quality content 👏
what scooter is that at 3:15?
The problem with electric scooters is the very reason why they're so popular - it's too damn easy.
Just because a newbie can stand on it and click on throttle button doesn't mean they should make 4-5km journeys at 25km/h without learning the laws of traffic or surroundings.
As electric scooter rider, e-bike rider and pedestrians, I've had really close calls with electric scooters (mostly teenagers who seem to have just got the scooters) in Stratford and I don't have much problems with others. It's really the person using it - not the mode of transport itself.
8:16 a knob followed by a g
Very simply it’s the uncoordinated being jealous that they have to walk everywhere. “If i can’t do it, then no one can”.
Is there any known private areas allowing the use of escooters? Like a private field, track, or park? We're always told where we cant ride them, but never where we can.
Used it since ES2 were a new thing.
Positive aspects (with acceptance from the law system):
expenditure of the area of "local shopping";
living 30-40 min walk from the station is not a problem any more;
hence increase of opportunities for development;
much less single driver cars on the roads;
less people on public transport = those who really need it will feel more comfortable;
less pollution;
more opportunities for businesses (you do explore more on one);
in pandemic times it feels much safer (of course there are bicycles, but there also are a lot of hills and thieves in London).
Negative aspects (with acceptance from the law system):
more less responsible people riding;
actioning on riding on the pavements will have to be made by police(more work for the force);
accidents will happen (they always do, but with proper guidance that will get controlled soon);
I'm sorry but I cannot include in the negative aspects fact that drivers will have to learn how to pay attention or how some people will get scared when somebody riding next to them, or that kids will get in to accidents, I can't - it is parents responsibility to train the kid, or that roads will get filled with "those things" isn't it what will make roads less used by cars what seems to be ultimate goal of the governing bodies.
All in all, better quality of life for people, more business opportunities, less pollution. Please make it road legal already.
The government needs to adapt to society. Until then ignore this "law". Theres many laws still on the books about horses in the city....
@Got_nuffin_on_me UK has many outdated/stupid laws. Salmon Act of 1986, it is an offense to receive or dispose of salmon under suspicious circumstances. Or it is an offense to carry a plank on the sidewalk. I find it perfectly okay to responsibly ride a scooter.
@Got_nuffin_on_me so by your logic all stupid laws matter? Like handling a salmon suspiciously should still be a law, ypu can ride a normal scooter on road why not a e scooter
@Got_nuffin_on_me No, it is evidence that gutless politicians have put the police into an impossible position (again). I know a number of police officers that are scooter and EUC enthusiasts and use them daily. The law needs to keep pace with society or risk being universally ignored my the majority. Hence the need for political action rather than a police administered band-aid.
I think politicians need to remember that they are elected by the people to server the people and to legislate in line with the will of the people who put them there.
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What I found most interesting: not ONE single person riding a scooter in this video was wearing a helmet. Simple legislation such as compulsory wearing of helmets and maximum speed limits for scooters would go a long way towards legislation.
The guy talking at 4:00 was wearing a hat in some clips, and a helmet in some where he was riding faster.
Did you even watch the video my guy 🤨
I wonder how many had a licence and insurace too?
better infrastructure will save many more lifes than helmets
@d c including the man "teaching" his daughter, neither had a helmet on.
as a white person that lives in oxfordshire / MK area id rather have a Sur Ron lightweight electric motorbike or similar, those scooter things seem kinda useless for going more than 10 miles on heavily potholed roads that can be wet ( deep puddles ), icy, snowy etc, or going offroad on byways or fields. I'm supporting these scooter things though.
I made use of the rentals in Frankfurt and Hamburg, giving me a much better experience and getting around a town I do not live in or know my way around, having the flexibility of a personal transport without the clumsiness of my car.
I enjoyed this video. It's really depressing when I go out to work on my escooter and I have to watch my 6 or side roads incase police are coming, where as I can ride at 40mph on my road bike by pedalling and it's fully legal .. crazy.
Thanks for watching! I think we need to get Boris on an e-scooter. He'll see sense in a heartbeat
@@Electroheads Boris loves the scooters. It's the nasty government blocking private use for now.
Even the travel committee has said to legalise them.
PEVs are certainly the future!
Preach!
ship me a Vsett 9+ to the states? :-D just kidding! but seriously though how do you guys have them while it's still unavailable on aliexpress & elsewhere?
@@speedforce131 Just a bit of PET magic :D
high quality video well presented! thank you. 👍
Please send me any eScooter Legality updates.
I passed my Driving Test in 2000 and believe I am more than capable of riding my eScooter safely. These really, really, do need Legalising here in England. Good Luck.
Great episode and completely agree. It’s been a half arsed approach by the government. From someone who rides ESK8 and my wife has a e scooter it’s madness we are not embracing this mode of transport
Great to hear from you TheEVside. People are voting with their feet and it can't be ignored!
I got a Chaos 1600W Hub Drive and it is sick! Just ride off from feds they cannot hit you off lmfao
ahhahaah
In some US e-bikes up to 750w motor are legal while UK still sits behind with measily 250w which lacks in power a lot...
I work in a very large housing complex and I use a scooter to do inspections instead of a vehicle, my productivity rate went through the roof.
The fact that these are illegal to ride in public is actually pathetic. Makes no sense at all. The UK sucks!
The real problem is that the privately owned ones usually aren't insured or registered for use on the road. Ride one uninsured on the road is the same as driving a car or riding a motorcycle uninsured - 6 points and a £200 penalty. It's a mechanically-propelled vehicle and thus needs insurance as the law stands at the moment. That may change and they may be brought into line with ebikes (which are a specific exemption).
@@robertstallard7836 my point precisely. No ones using these on the road, so if anything, they should make ebikes illegal to ride in public (or pay road tax). With these, it’s mainly just kids on the footpath going to the park 🤷🏽♂️ leave the kids alone! Lol!
@@gmajor3947 It depends where you are. There has been quite a takeup of the trial hired escooters, and to hire those you have to be over 16 with a driving licence, so it isn't just kids using them.
As for ebikes, I can't see any reason for making those illegal. The ones approved for use on the road are restricted by weight, power and speed.
The governement wants to bring them into line with ebikes, hence the present trials.
I was the first e scooter in London 6/7 years ago !! .... 4 years alone riding all over London !!! Being looked at, like I just landed from Mars .....hahaha .... now I am in a Bee's Nest !!! lol
whats the scooter hes using
The popularity is going to go through the roof with the fuel prices. Petrol and diesel heading for £2 a litre, filling your car up won't leave you much change out of 100 quid, but charging up an e-scooter battery costs less than 50p.
*100% put on your tunes and vibe to your music as you ride, portable dance floor!* 😂
👌🏼👌🏼
Hahaha need the old school boom box!
@@WashingtonSound check out the bose soundlink micro or the cheaper tribit micro. proper loud but straps to anythin, cleeean bass
@@eBoard3R Will check it out, cheers!
Best thing I brought in a while
I am in UK and use my Segway max g30 to get me to and from work everyday. Saves me an hour as I don’t use public transport everyday and £18 on train fare a week. Paid for its self within a few months and still works perfectly. I recommend to all.👍
Any problems with police
@@aaronkinsey154 none what so ever
@@jimboslice4272 cheers have police saw you on it yet tho we’re are you in uk thanks mate
@@aaronkinsey154 I live the on south coast and I get seen daily by police as long as your not being silly riding through town centre at full speed they couldn’t care less. Also I’m 23 not 13 so that might factor in but I don’t know. I have never once been stopped, rarely even get looked at twice.
I don't know why they can't just specify a max speed of 15 or 20 mph and treat them like an e-bike (The Halfords ones have a top speed of 15) and make sure they have two working brakes instead of just a crappy back foot on metal plate on the tyre job. I agree that putting any old LittleHarry15 style person who doesn't respect the rules of the road on a 40 mph machine would be a bit of a disaster. Personally I prefer a bicycle for the handling and pothole/drain cover safety and don't have to stand in an uncomfortable stance the whole way. I only use a car if I'm taking others/lots of stuff or it's a really long way or bad weather. What is a strange law although I doubt it will ever be enforced is that standard unpowered kick scooters technically aren't allowed to be used on cycle paths. Trying to take a Razor A5 Lux round a Hereford roundabout was a terrible idea. Personally I almost ran into an e-scooter user on my bicycle on the wrong side of a shared use path but that's another issue altogether not related to the scooter.
I do remember trying to build an e-scooter when I was a kid, with a starter motor and battery and wooden wheels haha it was terrible. I ended up building a crappy flinstones (except wood) go-kart instead with broom handle axles, a starter motor with a timing belt, going to two wooden discs with nails acting as teeth. It had lots of friction that snapped the back axle and then the motor burned out. I then built some 5 wheel kart that had the same issue.
I also had this blue scooter with a saddle (looked like a tiny moped) and got stopped by the police once with 2 car batteries on it boosting the range over the 240 watt hour battery.
Come on Boris legalise them 😄👍
Need lovely 😍💋 💝💖❤️
On a note related to Escooters and Ebikes.
Did you know if you take your pedals off your electric bike it is defined by law as then being an unregistered motorcycle/moped, why? simply because the law states that an electric bike must have pedals that are capable of propelling it as its main form of propulsion or pedal assist to be exact, and by removing the pedals it no longer is a pedal assist which under the law makes it illegal to ride on the road.
Odd really isn't it, you could leave home on an ebike the pedal falls off and you no longer have the legal right to ride that bicycle home to repair it, or ride it to a shop to get it repaired it has to be pushed, and under the law, when pushing a moped or motorcycle you must by law adhere to all road signs and traffic lights.
Oh and technically under the law you couldn't even push it home or to a shop as you would have no insurance for it, technically you could get done for having a motor vehicle on the road with no insurance by pushing it along the road.
That is the law, so when Escooter riders get done for no insurance, technically anyone with an Ebike that has a pedal that falls off could get done for exactly the same things, no license no insurance, no MOT and so on the law does not provide for such events as pedals falling off.
Rather daft isn't it!
This used to happen to moped riders back when sport mopeds were very popular in the UK, because the pedals were tucked away they often got bent so became unusable and riders got fined for riding a motorcycle rather than a moped with faulty pedals, or some people would put foot rests on and remove the pedals to make the bike look better, but they could end up with heavy fines for doing such things and some did get fined.
Nice video. Can't wait to get legalised. My Zero10X will be getting many more miles soon hopefully!
we need to make a petition to get them legalised
There is one but has reached only 1.8k signs from 10k asked.
@@yegorgrushko9331 where is it so I can sign it and try get others to do it to
@@arose4way524 Imao this petition was written in a bit incorrect way, so once this one is over we willl try to write down a proper one and try to advertise is in social media as much as possible
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Who wants to travel with a busload of old coughing pensioners? :D
These are not illegal in the uk.. they are available to use in my city (Gloucester) at various points throughout the city.. you pay per mile via an app and these are provided by the city council
They're illegal to use in the UK if they're privately owned.
Nope!! Wrong. The law changed July 2020 and you can now ride them legally on the road in the U.K .