I'm just wondering if the CPKCS will do what BNSF did and go from iconic paint schemes to a traffic cone inspired eyesore. CPKCS is also very boring and unimaginative branding so my hopes aren't up on this one.
0:52 fun fact, my dad (who used to be the engineered projects division lead for CP western division before they laid most of their civil engineering off and is also a rail safety ambassador with operation lifesaver) has found a picture of the actual last spike being pounded with the actual crew, roughly 10 miles from where that famous picture was taken
We're getting on a Canadian Pacific trend here! I didn't know the history of the beaver for Canadian Pacific until now. I've seen the beaver multiple times before whenever I was lucky to see a CP train go by. I think I appreciate it more now.
After the merger with KCS had those wonder if the new logo for the joint venture is three flags painted to the sides of locomotives when those still have memories of the Pac man era.
On a side note, the green boxcars with the pine tree logo were phased out, after Maine Central filed a lawsuit against CP for violating a copyright on the pine tree logo they used at the time. It was likely sparked by a rivalry at the time between CP and MEC, since the Bangor and Aroostook was trying to divert as much traffic as possible to CP, which is a much longer story in itself. Hence why the cars became known as “lawsuit scheme” cars.
This is a great series focusing on the graphic design aspect of railroads. Glad to see my favorite Canadian Class I being featured for this episode. I hope that with the CPKC merger, the heritage of both railroads are still kept in tact. It would be a real shame of they got rid of the iconic beaver. Why can't they just let KCS be its own railroad, or at least absorb it with CP without getting rid of CP's image.
UPDATE: That CPKC has revealed their new print scheme basically like the CP livery but the back given a Yellow and Black the Beaver logo now has CPKC on the bottom replacing the 1881 label and given a CP KCS & KCSM on the top and their Paint Scheme was a bit of a wreck off of CN's Livery
CP won't over take CN. CN has positioned in markets and is the ONLY railway that owns tracks across the entire north American continent. (Canada, US&Mexico)
@@trainsofsouthwestmichigan03 how is canadian national railway less of a canadian railway than canadian pacific? i prefer can when buying my models mainly because i’m a bcrail fan (all their variations through the years but bcrail is easiest to type) so i lean to bc locomotives for the ex bc rail part of it
AmtrakGuy365, your videos are going from strength to strength. footage choice & quality, editing, sound & music.... keep 'em coming! hugely enjoyable (and very informative) - many thanks all the way from the UK. NICE ONE!
I really enjoy these history of a design videos. Kansas City Southern would make a neat next installment as it has gone through quite a bit of re-branding throughout its history.
I really appreciated this video. I grew up during the multi-mark era, so to me it still seems like the "standard" CP logo. But this video helps me understand that multimark was actually a fairly brief stage in the history of their branding. The obvious comparison is with CN's "noodle" logo - both the multimark and CN noodle are "modernist" logos from the 60s. The CN modernist logo has certainly lasted a lot longer!
Excellent presentation of CP’s history! I’ve always loved the beaver/maple leaf shield, as it tells the whole story of a hard-working railroad located in Canada. I’ve subscribed and am looking forward to future Canadian railroad presentations. 🇺🇸 🚂
You should also do a history of The Canadian from Montreal/Toronto to Vancouver that tells history on how exists since Canadian Pacific started it and then Via Rail.
It is worth noting that the maroon, yellow, and grey livery (at least the diesel version) was a standard Baldwin design, and saw some use on locomotives for other railroad, such as the Copper Range Railroad in Upper Michigan.
Great video, thank you. Living in the UK have a big 'soft spot' for Milwaukee Road, Soo Line and CP, and have n scale models of various locomotives but do have CP engines wearing all four logos. Two rail companies that are bottom of the list for me are CN and UP - neither do anything for me in terms of livery style - the only UP model I have is that of 4141 George HW Bush.
Wow! Am I ever glad you were able to work in the 'F' word. The piece just wouldn't be credible without at least one use of the "F' word to give it that putride, gutter odour.
I am so glad I subscribe to your channel! I really thought that I knew a lot about trains and the history of them. Every time I look at your videos I realize that I don't and learn something new each and every time. So grateful to you and appreciate all the information that you provide to all of us who are true fans of trains.
For those railway fans that wish to see the iconic CP multimark again, rest assured, it still exists today! Although in a modified version, by Carnival Cruises. For many years, I often thought there was something vaguely familiar with Carnival Cruises' logo. After reading the book "$elling the $ea", I found out why. According to the book "$elling the $ea", Carnival Cruises bought their first cruise ship from Canadian Pacific, the Empress of Canada. The Empress of Canada had CPR's multimark on it's funnel. Carnival Cruises liked this logo so much that they kept it. CPR said "No, that's our logo.", so Carnival changed it a little. They rounded the point of the triangle, made the semi circle thinner, and the background square is no longer a square, it's now the base colour for the background of the logo. The black on white on green colour scheme was also changed (green being used for ships), to blue on white on red, matching the colours of the US flag. Have a peek at any Carnival ship's funnel and you'll see the similarity!
I once had a bachmann Ho scale 2-8-0 spectrum that I modified with a grey boiler, a multimark painted on the back of the tender, and Canadian Pacific lettering on the tender near the back of the water tank. I numbered it 642. I disassembled it in 2018 and swapped the shells for some from a Bachmann Southern Railway 630. I don’t have any pictures of 642 because I didn’t have phone with a decent enough camera yet.
Amtrak do you think you can do a video on the history of the Royal Hudson class? In my opinion they are one of the most elegant locomotives ever made, and it is one of the least locomotives talked about
still angry that canadian pacific never ordered any Beyer Garratt Locomotives cause canada was the only part of the british empire not to use Beyer Garratt Locomotives
Here's my proposal: bring back CP Rail, but instead of Canadian Pacific, have the CP stand for "Compass Point", since the merger with KCS makes them a railway that runs to all four compass points: north, south, east, and west.
Canadian national: I am formed by other railroads that almost failed Canadian pacific: I owned a trucking company, hotel, boat service, and a fucking airline. Your power can’t compete with mine
CN also had an airline: Trans-Canada Airlines, founded in 1937 and called Air Canada since 1965, was a wholly-owned subsidiary of CN until 1975, when it became a separate crown corporation in its own right. AC was privatized in 1989.
Some CP SD40-2s still have multimark logo. But watching the ongoing retirements of CP Rail SD40-2s we'll not be able to see the multimark logo within a couple of years.
I really think the CP Rail and packman logo had a great staying power, legibility and would fit into today's design (sans serif, large typefaces and bold)
I drive through port of Houston every week and last week I saw a ac6000 cp as lead, a warbonnett in the middle and a cn unit in third, it was a nice consist to catch in coastal Texas but if anyone ever wants to see fallen flag or foreign power go to the port of Houston or the yards in Houston I still see bluebonnets, bn cascade greens, vommitbonnetts and all sorts of old schemes every week.
1:19 - Cue some flute music Narrator - The beaver is one of the national symbols of Canada. For more information, contact the Canadian Wildlife Federation in Ottawa.
1. Bank gothic is really not a good match for the beaver logo; 2. The multi-mark looks great except for the red stripes. Too utilitarian; 3. The beaver logo must stay.
On my Model Railroad, I run CN and CP Rail. My CP Rail has the Multi-Mark Design due to the Yellow Cabooses. Since It looks like Pac-Man,All of my Engines and rolling Stock received the Pacman Eye.
The '60s and '70s were the absolute low point in all aspects of North American railroading, from operations to public relations and everything in between. Give me beavers and maple leafs any day of the week; the things they symbolize are important and obvious to anyone interested enough to ponder the design. Multimarks and noodles, however, suck. A triangle, semicircle, and square - represent elementary school geography, not the esoteric "moving forward" BS that sounds like it came out of a junior college class on mental masturbation. CN's noodle that also went to subsidiaries Grand Trunk, Duluth, Winnipeg & Pacific, and Central Vermont was a precursor (and omen of impending doom) to the disaster that was Penn Central and its "mating worms" logo. Which of course led to the Conrail "can opener" logo, a confusing attempt to represent steel wheels on steel rail. I miss the blue & white colors but not the logo or the word "Quality" which was an abomination. Today's class one schemes aren't much better, primarily because there a so few. KCS' colors will no doubt disappear once the merger with CP is completed. On the bright side, Union Pacific's scheme is classic and timeless; BNSF is at least colorful, and if you're lucky you might see a Santa Fe unit still in Warbonnet paint. In the east, CSX was doing well with the YN3 and old Chessie System schemes, but now it's a bastardized version of C&O blue & yellow with the stupid "boxcar logo". NS is probably the greatest offender, though. They have so many beautiful schemes in the Heritage fleet; surely they could come up with something other than "black & damn white". I haven't done much class one photography in the last 20 years because the variety in colors and locomotive models has diminished so greatly, and freight cars that spend any time in metropolitan area yards are covered with hideous graffiti. It just takes a lot of the fun out of train-watching. Thank God for steam operations, short lines & regionals, and some commuter operations like ConnDot with its New Haven scheme.
i've managed to see myself an old multimark and action red GP9U's on OSR, both seperate units and patched, but still a good chance to reflect on their history.
I never understood why they changed their paint scheme from something classy, beautiful, and freaking awesome, to something so bland and shitty as that red dip scheme
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CP Rail:
*"We payed you 500 thousand dollars to come up with BLACK?"*
Also CP Rail:
*BEAVER NOISES*
6:25
What sounds _do_ beavers make?
CN: *yes*
They sweak
@@carlfalt174 Angry Beaver Noises 🦫
Canadian Pacific will "enhance" it's beaver logo for the KCS merger
Speaking of the merger, are you ready for 2816 to head to Mexico? I sure am
@@Drockthe3rd I'll try to catch it in Texas
@@johntherailfan3754 Alright
It'll pass directly behind my back porch
I'm just wondering if the CPKCS will do what BNSF did and go from iconic paint schemes to a traffic cone inspired eyesore. CPKCS is also very boring and unimaginative branding so my hopes aren't up on this one.
0:52 fun fact, my dad (who used to be the engineered projects division lead for CP western division before they laid most of their civil engineering off and is also a rail safety ambassador with operation lifesaver) has found a picture of the actual last spike being pounded with the actual crew, roughly 10 miles from where that famous picture was taken
The Multi-mark is so iconic - I vividly remember seeing those locomotives well into the 90's. Bring it back!
A Spanish air traffic controller once reportedly said that he CP Air version looked like "un clovo oxidado" - a rusty nail.
It would be great if they did a multimark heritage unit!
We're getting on a Canadian Pacific trend here! I didn't know the history of the beaver for Canadian Pacific until now. I've seen the beaver multiple times before whenever I was lucky to see a CP train go by. I think I appreciate it more now.
Fantastic video ! I’m looking forward to the design of the future logo after the KCS merger.
Yes! Same here
After the merger with KCS had those wonder if the new logo for the joint venture is three flags painted to the sides of locomotives when those still have memories of the Pac man era.
Amazing work! Can't wait or the Future CPKC merger. I wonder if their new image will be a combination of the two?
CP will not leave the beaver. They’ll probably add “Kansas City” to the circle
They said they’re keeping the beaver and the name
On a side note, the green boxcars with the pine tree logo were phased out, after Maine Central filed a lawsuit against CP for violating a copyright on the pine tree logo they used at the time. It was likely sparked by a rivalry at the time between CP and MEC, since the Bangor and Aroostook was trying to divert as much traffic as possible to CP, which is a much longer story in itself. Hence why the cars became known as “lawsuit scheme” cars.
This is a great series focusing on the graphic design aspect of railroads. Glad to see my favorite Canadian Class I being featured for this episode. I hope that with the CPKC merger, the heritage of both railroads are still kept in tact. It would be a real shame of they got rid of the iconic beaver. Why can't they just let KCS be its own railroad, or at least absorb it with CP without getting rid of CP's image.
If anything i hope see a new design with a combination of the two
Pensyfan19, hello
Make it easy, call the newly combined railroad, "Canadian Pacific Southern."
I think they kept the beaver
UPDATE: That CPKC has revealed their new print scheme basically like the CP livery but the back given a Yellow and Black the Beaver logo now has CPKC on the bottom replacing the 1881 label and given a CP KCS & KCSM on the top and their Paint Scheme was a bit of a wreck off of CN's Livery
Now I’m just hoping things go well and it successfully merges with KCS to help overpower CN some more.
No CN All the way jk I'm just a huge Canadian Railway supporter
CP won't over take CN. CN has positioned in markets and is the ONLY railway that owns tracks across the entire north American continent. (Canada, US&Mexico)
@@trainsofsouthwestmichigan03 how is canadian national railway less of a canadian railway than canadian pacific? i prefer can when buying my models mainly because i’m a bcrail fan (all their variations through the years but bcrail is easiest to type) so i lean to bc locomotives for the ex bc rail part of it
I mean KCS was a great railroad and I'm really sad to see them go.
I love the Multimark, if it ever comes back I'll be thrilled
AmtrakGuy365, your videos are going from strength to strength. footage choice & quality, editing, sound & music.... keep 'em coming! hugely enjoyable (and very informative) - many thanks all the way from the UK. NICE ONE!
The "Pacman" multi mark was CP's best look. They NEVER should have changed. They were on par with CN and their "worm/wet noodle" logo.
I really enjoy these history of a design videos. Kansas City Southern would make a neat next installment as it has gone through quite a bit of re-branding throughout its history.
The new CPKC logo better be a beaver and a chupacabra feasting on an american drinking beer.
I really appreciated this video. I grew up during the multi-mark era, so to me it still seems like the "standard" CP logo. But this video helps me understand that multimark was actually a fairly brief stage in the history of their branding. The obvious comparison is with CN's "noodle" logo - both the multimark and CN noodle are "modernist" logos from the 60s. The CN modernist logo has certainly lasted a lot longer!
Very interesting, thank you. I never knew they did more than railways.
6:24 "Oh, it's a circle, square and triangle, with RED!? OK, good use of a year's work, that's worth half a million." :D
My family emigrated to Canada in 1970 on the CP Ship Empress of Canada. Coincidently, The Beaver Years are what I call my 20’s.
CN: *sticks with a timeless logo*
CP: "CHANGE IT AGAIN!" "CHANGE IT AGAIN!" "CHANGE IT AGAIN!"
CP Rail: I present to you a comeback of our beaver logo!
the rest of the world: CP This is the 6th time you've presented ur beaver logo
Leslie Nielsen: "nice beaver"
Excellent presentation of CP’s history!
I’ve always loved the beaver/maple leaf shield, as it tells the whole story of a hard-working railroad located in Canada.
I’ve subscribed and am looking forward to future Canadian railroad presentations. 🇺🇸 🚂
Great video! Thank you for sharing.
Nobody: we dont like the beaver
CP: lets paint pacman on all our locos!
You forgot to talk about it’s ships Including the empress of Ireland with sunk in on may 29 1914 after it collected with another ship
Did the Kansas City Southern and the Canadian Pacific Railway Merged?
Yes They Did
You should also do a history of The Canadian from Montreal/Toronto to Vancouver that tells history on how exists since Canadian Pacific started it and then Via Rail.
Do this for CP Portugal just to confuse a bunch of people lol
It is worth noting that the maroon, yellow, and grey livery (at least the diesel version) was a standard Baldwin design, and saw some use on locomotives for other railroad, such as the Copper Range Railroad in Upper Michigan.
Great video, thank you. Living in the UK have a big 'soft spot' for Milwaukee Road, Soo Line and CP, and have n scale models of various locomotives but do have CP engines wearing all four logos. Two rail companies that are bottom of the list for me are CN and UP - neither do anything for me in terms of livery style - the only UP model I have is that of 4141 George HW Bush.
I personally love CN's old olive & black and maple leaf logo .
@@paulbeard4218 He called Amtrak Guy 365 PLEASE.😭
Kinda sad to see that now CP is merging with Kansas City Southern. Ah well at least the name lives on kinda.
Agreed
I really like the Beaver logo. And the Beaver logo was shown at the end of Rocky Mountain Express.
I remember the locomotives with the stripes in front. Used in the movie 🍿 Silver Streak
Sick video! Your information videos are always very good. Personally I prefer CN to CP
Wow! Am I ever glad you were able to work in the 'F' word. The piece just wouldn't be credible without at least one use of the "F' word to give it that putride, gutter odour.
loved the Tuscan Red paint scheme of the 60's (or maroon as you called it)
I am so glad I subscribe to your channel! I really thought that I knew a lot about trains and the history of them. Every time I look at your videos I realize that I don't and learn something new each and every time. So grateful to you and appreciate all the information that you provide to all of us who are true fans of trains.
Canadian Pacific will put a *sombrero* on top of their *beaver* for the KCS merger
Source: bro just trust me
Conrail iconic iconography / history of design video!!!
For those railway fans that wish to see the iconic CP multimark again, rest assured, it still exists today! Although in a modified version, by Carnival Cruises.
For many years, I often thought there was something vaguely familiar with Carnival Cruises' logo. After reading the book "$elling the $ea", I found out why.
According to the book "$elling the $ea", Carnival Cruises bought their first cruise ship from Canadian Pacific, the Empress of Canada. The Empress of Canada had CPR's multimark on it's funnel. Carnival Cruises liked this logo so much that they kept it. CPR said "No, that's our logo.", so Carnival changed it a little. They rounded the point of the triangle, made the semi circle thinner, and the background square is no longer a square, it's now the base colour for the background of the logo. The black on white on green colour scheme was also changed (green being used for ships), to blue on white on red, matching the colours of the US flag. Have a peek at any Carnival ship's funnel and you'll see the similarity!
I once had a bachmann Ho scale 2-8-0 spectrum that I modified with a grey boiler, a multimark painted on the back of the tender, and Canadian Pacific lettering on the tender near the back of the water tank. I numbered it 642. I disassembled it in 2018 and swapped the shells for some from a Bachmann Southern Railway 630. I don’t have any pictures of 642 because I didn’t have phone with a decent enough camera yet.
Amtrak do you think you can do a video on the history of the Royal Hudson class? In my opinion they are one of the most elegant locomotives ever made, and it is one of the least locomotives talked about
you should do a NFLD railway video and its joining of CNR in 1949
I like the newer font, but however the Multimark scheme will always be my favourite.
you really copy me!?
There is no reason to use obscenities and their images in creating a mini-documentary. Thumbs down.
I’d love to see a video on Japan Rail’s logo, please!
I've had CN Trains pass infront my of my house for as long as i can remember, its really nice.
still angry that canadian pacific never ordered any Beyer Garratt Locomotives cause canada was the only part of the british empire not to use Beyer Garratt Locomotives
CP GE ES44AC 8700 was the first locomotive delivered without the beaver scheme
Hey amtrak guy no. 365.😊
I like the maroon and grey scheme with the beaver!
A classy look!
Thank you for making these Canada railway videos recently, they have been great but I might be biased.
Great video; I love your work. I see CP often. Keep up the great work.
Here's my proposal: bring back CP Rail, but instead of Canadian Pacific, have the CP stand for "Compass Point", since the merger with KCS makes them a railway that runs to all four compass points: north, south, east, and west.
Canadian Pacific & Southern if compass point doesn't pass
I just subscribed after watching this vid and only this so far. I can't wait to see all the other vids that you have to offer.
Watching this sitting by the CP (ex-MILW) tracks in Bensenville IL.
Canadian national: I am formed by other railroads that almost failed
Canadian pacific: I owned a trucking company, hotel, boat service, and a fucking airline. Your power can’t compete with mine
CN also had an airline: Trans-Canada Airlines, founded in 1937 and called Air Canada since 1965, was a wholly-owned subsidiary of CN until 1975, when it became a separate crown corporation in its own right. AC was privatized in 1989.
Ok
Cool video showcasing all the logo changes. Nicely done!
Some CP SD40-2s still have multimark logo. But watching the ongoing retirements of CP Rail SD40-2s we'll not be able to see the multimark logo within a couple of years.
Very nicely done video Amtrakguy! Thanks
I really think the CP Rail and packman logo had a great staying power, legibility and would fit into today's design (sans serif, large typefaces and bold)
I hated the logo with the maple leaf/ stars & stripes!! CP Rail pulled out of Atlantic Canada in the 1990's. 😕
We need an Illinois Central one, a lot of different designs to talk about.
I drive through port of Houston every week and last week I saw a ac6000 cp as lead, a warbonnett in the middle and a cn unit in third, it was a nice consist to catch in coastal Texas but if anyone ever wants to see fallen flag or foreign power go to the port of Houston or the yards in Houston I still see bluebonnets, bn cascade greens, vommitbonnetts and all sorts of old schemes every week.
@AmtrakGuy365 Speaking Of CP, What Do You Think About The Upcoming CP-KCS Merger, Yay Or Nay, Or Would You Rather KCS Had Gone With CN?
I always thought of the multi mark as the semi circle representing a C and the triangle representing a P. I don’t know why I thought of it like this
1:19 - Cue some flute music
Narrator - The beaver is one of the national symbols of Canada. For more information, contact the Canadian Wildlife Federation in Ottawa.
I hope the beaver stays after the merger
Absolutely interesting bit of Canadian History.
Thanks
Is the CP/KCS Merger a good thing or another Penn Central?
Good thing
CP is profitable so that comparison is moot. Also missing is the 'New Haven' poison pill.
Excellent documentary
1. Bank gothic is really not a good match for the beaver logo;
2. The multi-mark looks great except for the red stripes. Too utilitarian;
3. The beaver logo must stay.
On my Model Railroad, I run CN and CP Rail. My CP Rail has the Multi-Mark Design due to the Yellow Cabooses. Since It looks like Pac-Man,All of my Engines and rolling Stock received the Pacman Eye.
can you do a CSX logo and livery history?
CSX is honestly trash. BNSF is just better.
The '60s and '70s were the absolute low point in all aspects of North American railroading, from operations to public relations and everything in between. Give me beavers and maple leafs any day of the week; the things they symbolize are important and obvious to anyone interested enough to ponder the design. Multimarks and noodles, however, suck. A triangle, semicircle, and square - represent elementary school geography, not the esoteric "moving forward" BS that sounds like it came out of a junior college class on mental masturbation. CN's noodle that also went to subsidiaries Grand Trunk, Duluth, Winnipeg & Pacific, and Central Vermont was a precursor (and omen of impending doom) to the disaster that was Penn Central and its "mating worms" logo. Which of course led to the Conrail "can opener" logo, a confusing attempt to represent steel wheels on steel rail. I miss the blue & white colors but not the logo or the word "Quality" which was an abomination. Today's class one schemes aren't much better, primarily because there a so few. KCS' colors will no doubt disappear once the merger with CP is completed. On the bright side, Union Pacific's scheme is classic and timeless; BNSF is at least colorful, and if you're lucky you might see a Santa Fe unit still in Warbonnet paint. In the east, CSX was doing well with the YN3 and old Chessie System schemes, but now it's a bastardized version of C&O blue & yellow with the stupid "boxcar logo". NS is probably the greatest offender, though. They have so many beautiful schemes in the Heritage fleet; surely they could come up with something other than "black & damn white". I haven't done much class one photography in the last 20 years because the variety in colors and locomotive models has diminished so greatly, and freight cars that spend any time in metropolitan area yards are covered with hideous graffiti. It just takes a lot of the fun out of train-watching. Thank God for steam operations, short lines & regionals, and some commuter operations like ConnDot with its New Haven scheme.
Hello man
The black design for the diesel looks just as good if not better in my opinion.
I've got some really bad news! For some reason, Canadian Pacific is merging with Kansas City southern.
I like trains.
Great video!
7:41 Rage!
i've managed to see myself an old multimark and action red GP9U's on OSR, both seperate units and patched, but still a good chance to reflect on their history.
being a new-to-the-game railfan sucks because it will be very hard or impossible to see cool stuff
Breaking News 2060: CN's "Wet Noodle" logo celebrates its 100th year
Awesome video bro
If I had to choose of what Canadian Pacific logo is awesome
I would choose the Multimark logo
I never understood why they changed their paint scheme from something classy, beautiful, and freaking awesome, to something so bland and shitty as that red dip scheme
This is amazing! I loved it alot! Fantastic job!
Can’t tell the difference between Central Pacific and Canadian Pacific acronym steamers
CP and CP
Wouldn’t it be easy for Kcs to make heritage units they just wouldn’t paint them
Try the Union Pacific or BNSF next
This should be a Series now its perfect
Well done sir👍🚂🇨🇦
Oh boy, next up the CO beaver eating Kansas City BBQ sauce with some times new roman dont
Awesome Video
lol i accidently factory reset my phone (HELP ME)
How about the CP acknowledge and honor all the Chinese workers that died in the past building their rail road.
CSX literally has CP bosses,
so I expect CP to take over CSX
It'll never happen .
Brilliant work
Newsprint Service Only boxcars were brown not green.