VW eGolf Takes On The World's Toughest Electric Car Test - Loveland Trials Ep.1
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- ( www.TFLcar.com ) The 2020 VW eGolf has a range of about 125 miles. But is that enough to take on The World's Toughest Electric Car Test? In this first episode of the Loveland Trials we find out!
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I think you guys do EV testing right. driving up a bloody mountain, yes!
drive down the mountain, yes!
did it make it?
Was the SNARFS test ever done with the model x?
Exactly what I'd also like to know. How did their previous model 3 and current model X score on the same run? Would be nice to start getting some comparative data.
@@schlix101 I think it's a great real world stress test that highlights energy efficiency and regeneration ability. The really important aspects of the electric drivetrain. They should really record the consumption figures and energy recovery figures and total recharges required it's fantastic test situation
@Wolfgang Preier I live in BC canada...there are literally mountains everywhere I look. Have your government call my government I'm sure we can work something out.
This test makes it clear that driving uphill will require dinamic slot charger every 6 miles compared to every 60 miles downhill. Only vehicles with mobile smart meter will be able to drive the electrified roads and the kw used will be added to the home electric monthly bill.
We recently bought a CPO e-Golf in very clean condition, with the fast charge upgrade, 30 months of basic warranty, and less than 10,000 miles on it for well under $15,000 cash out the door; fees, taxes, etc included. We enjoy the car and it handles 99% of our daily driving/commuting needs. We 100% charge at home with a level 2; easy.
My brother used to live in Frisco, CO. I've experienced going over the Loveland Pass a few times and all of that is irrelevant. Why? Because it's a 1,000 miles from here.
perfect for where i live in Arizona...i could leave it plugged in all night and use it for any small trips and never stop at a gas station with it
Fund and informative video. Tommy has really grown into the star of the show.
Love it! Forget hunting or fishing trips it’s a father-son EV adventure. Very funny seeing Romans lack of patience at the charger
Thanks for testing the eGolf. I have a 2019 Canadian eGolf. I appreciate your testing, but am not going to focus on the score. As Tommy says it is a great car! You've inspired me to take a road test (with charging along the way) to go from Vancouver British Columbia to Calgary Alberta!! Thanks again for testing the eGolf.
Would love to hear your road test results
I can’t wait to see how the trucks perform on this test (F150 electric, Bollinger B2, Tesla pickup etc.)
Is it really a test if you don’t back it into your garage wall and test how long it takes to order parts ?
This is awesome. You win the internet.
They miss the Jaguar i-Pace instead of the e-Golf...
Also don’t forget to name drop how many followers the channel has. Then we got a test baby!!
15:15 - Holy shit, $4.57 to put roughly just 30 miles of range in (77% to 96%)?!?! This is the best pro-combustion engine video I've ever seen....even more expensive than gas cars.
That's why charging at home is not only highly recommended, but what 95% of EV owners do. In that case it costs about that much to fill from empty. A lot of these quick charge stations are ripoffs (and Ionity just increased their prices dramatically).
This is also because at this point Electrify America was charging by the minute instead of by the kWh, and since they started at 79% they were charging very slowly. Now Electrify America has switched to a per kWh pricing model in many states, so it is much cheaper. Also, this is the first generation of DC fast charging - if like most people you charge up at home even 80% of the time, this increased cost for a road trip over a gas car still means an EV is cheaper overall than any gas car, by far.
More like 60 miles
@@John-209 LOL, no. Where are you getting your facts? You think the eGolf is a 315 mile range vehicle? It's only 120 mixed miles on a full charge. They added 19% charge to the battery. That is far less than 30 miles....it's closer to 20 miles.
@@cup_and_cone you are right my bad I’m looking at what I wrote and I must have made calculations for the Tesla sorry about that my bad
Love your electric reviews. You guys does it way more interesting than any other. Tommy = EV maestro!
I like how you are the everyday non educated ev driver. It’s good. As you use them more to pi seem to learn how they work.
Charging a smaller battery to 80 will go faster than that 500 mile battery you want to see. You should measure mileage charged not battery percentage.
i guess it is equal no matter what to choose, could be considered both as one whole , both miles and percentage may vary depending different factors
The batteries charge much better between 20 and 80 percent though. You'll get much more energy charging a bigger battery in the sweet spot then you will a full charge on a small battery.
But as the batteries increase in size, they need to charge faster or that larger capacity is pointless.
Not really, charging speeds are limited by the individual cells in the battery. Bigger batteries have only problems with cooling that can be solved by active cooling while recharging. With this logic you could charge your phone or laptop in matter of seconds.
Just a little correction. You are not increasing the potential range by increasing the recuperation level. The most efficient way of driving is no recuperation at all which means just sailing. Then there are no energy losses in the car due to electrical resistance which produces heat. Recuperation levels are just for convenience, so you do not need to use the break pedal. For many people it's just more fun to drive with a high recu level.
OMG waiting for the charge station to work was stressing me out
And wtf was that whining noise?!
More stress!!
Beeman Seawa I’d rather get the i3 range extender and know I’d never have to hunt for a plug. On second thought, I’ll keep my supercharged petrol, just to annoy Greta 😂
As an owner of a EV, public charging sucks. Different standards, crazy stupid menu systems. Glad I can just charge at home.
Mowcowbell I drive long distances quite often, I don’t have the time to sit around waiting for it to charge. If you don’t drive too much or as a secondary car, then yeah, theoretically it’s great. Hydrogen fuel cell cars are potentially great. But here in the UK there’s less than ten stations in the whole country. Closest of which is nearly 200 miles away 🤦🏼♂️
This scoring system is heavily in favor of (very expensive) cars for roadtrips. many people don´t ever need so much range to get around in their town....at least here in europe. Many cars don´t even drive 6000 miles per year and most of them drive less than 30 miles at one time until they get back to the charger.
a small, cheap city car with reasonable range for city driving will score horribly in this scoring system for years to come :x
At the same time the car you’re describing isn’t one you’d take to the top of the continental divide. I think it’s trying to compare the average combustion engine car to electric cars. Like they said over time electric cars will become closer to the combustion cars we have today. Many combustion cars are meant to be all around performers. Plus Americans drive much more than Europeans from what I’ve seen. Most of our states are larger than countries in Europe.
@@joemacscott2677 Average american driver drives ONLY 39 miles per day, Vokswagen E-golf has 125 miles of EPA range, enough said. Average european driver drives ONLY 20 miles per day. Enough said.
You guys have the best car/truck vlog on the Net. Period. Thanx for the great work and information. I would love to see you get to one million subs by the end of February 2020.
Well done, fellas. You're ahead of the curve with all the real-world testing. Keep up the great work.
Not sure driving up a mountain in Eco+ with the A/C off is all that real world, but none the less it is interesting.
@@edcooper2396 Thanks for the brilliant response and for adding to a positive comment to the content creator. You're a real inspiration.
@@Thomas-qk7wf oops, sorry for stepping into your safe space. It's great to see EV's being pushed, and I enjoyed this video, but I find the testing Bjorn does much more real-world.
No safe spaces needed here. Nor are negative comments from armchair quarterbacks. Keep it positive or keep it to yourself. It adds nothing to the discussion.
13:37 lol "this is easy" waiting and moving the car to different chargers for 15 minutes just to be able to start the process.
If that was Tesla you guys would butcher it left and right lol
I like the idea of scoring with an eye towards the future. Can’t wait for the Niro test. 👍
I had a 2015 e-golf (first year, 83 mile range) until 2018 and it was a great commuter car for my 30 miles each way.
I have one, too. It's rather pleasant to drive.
I have a question for you. When your golf is plugged in, can you use the climate control without using the (awful) carnet app or website?
That charger noise, i don’t know if I can handle that sound for 30 minutes....lol
You walk away and get a cup of coffee
Roman looked like he kept getting irritated with Tommy when he would talk lol 10:20 and 14:05 when he corrected him.
Love the ev series guys! Thanks for all the hard work!
e-Golf gen 1 (and Leaf gen 1) is now one of the hardest used car models to sell on the used car marked i Norway.
This is a good idea, and as a transportation journalist with OCD, I love the scoring system. It's like Alex on Autos over here.
I really enjoy the father 'n son segments - (and the others as well, André & Nathan).
More in-line six 3.0 Duramax Diesel videos, please.
$4.57 for 32 miles...no thanks I’ll keep my TDI that gets average of 46mpg and diesel costs me 3.29 a gallon.
TDi has a city average of 31.
Prius is better and won’t have electrical issues a day after the warranty expires.
Or buy a Tesla and charge in your garage
daguzify My only option would be to charge at my home. I’ve looked into electric cars and there are no chargers near where I live or work. Maybe in a few years once technology advances more I’d buy into the electric car industry. It does interest me but just doesn’t work for me yet with range/accessibility.
There's always one!
Diesel for the win, let me know when you figure out this electrified automobile thing.
Yep tdi☻👍
Really awesome videos you guys make. I have a suggestion. When we go to the mountains, we normally go to have fun with friends and family. All seats are full. It would be great to see what's the efficiency and range when we drive with at least 4 people in the car. Thank you.
I can tell you having a smaller battery nissain leaf it really makes a difference
Hey TFL, great Colorado scenery! Love it! How about calculating the average energy spent in kW and giving us that number as a reference of efficiency between cars. Also...temperature we need to know the temperature during the test. I feel we lack solid grounds for comparison, range is never a solid comparison point between EV's: each car calculates it differently! For reference binge watch TeslaBjorn's channel on YT! Take a bit of his methodology and concepts and and inject this into your reviews and tests
I saw 31F (0Celsius) not very good for batteries. And a score for kW/mile would be a good idea, kW=money.
God that charger was loud!!!
Sounds like a transformer
@@jaybee2344 Yeah, most DC fast chargers sound like that at least for the first few minutes as the transformers get going.
"Either it's fast charging or we need to RUN LIKE HELL!!"
@@jaybee2344 Which transformer you think? My vote is Bumblebee
How long did it take to charge from 76%?
It was really great to watch! Greetings from germany!
I had the 2016 e-Golf (83 miles of range) and absolutely loved it... until I got a Tesla Model 3. Tesla is a decade ahead of everyone else in the EV market. I regret not getting one sooner.
Charging cars is pain in azz but it reminds me of the internet 15 years back and look where we are now together with smart phone and all.i bet in ten years we will charge via cell phone and wireless.soon
15y? Lol more like 40y ago...
@@jasenrock very true but oil Mafia have started wars for much less.they will not let electric tech eat their pie.look at Iraq, Syria and iran
@@multivisao 15 years ago cell phone were AM and now its GSM
You mean the internet 20-25 years ago. 15 years ago, we had already moved way past dial-up speeds. I remember the aughts very well.
EV mondays...? its sunday.
Great video, as always! I’ve had the eGolf for about 10 months now and I absolutely love it! It’s no Tesla but it sure has a lot going for it! Anyway, the grading scale you guys use (while pretty logical) should be EVs against current gasoline cars IMO. That way, we can pit EV tech against the best alternative we have now rather than a future release we can only dream of. It’ll produce more statistically correct EV grades.
16:52 Watts per minute?!? What kind of unit is that? I guess you meant Watt-hours per mile.
One insight that you've provided is that It seems like the best way to enjoy an electric car is to plan correctly. Significant elevation changes and load conditions complicate the calculus. The onboard calculator needs work.
A large component of EV purchase decisions are based on gas savings. Therefore you should add an efficiency category and a base price of the car to your calculation.
I like your electric car rating system, but, could you add value in it some way?
I've found that in steep hills, its a very good idea to use the speed limiter, and put the car in D. Then let off the throttle, and don't touch the brakes, unless you have some sharp turns. As soon as it gets to the speed limit, it will start regenerating. I regenerated about 20 km in a couple of minutes.
Your second category for charging appears flawed because it doesn't take into account the battery capacity. Given the same, or even less, charging uptake, a smaller battery will get a higher score if it hits 80% first, no?
“It’s easy” Car doesn’t start charging for 15 minutes! Lol
I feel like that fast charger is actually the... Hellcat of chargers
It certainly has Chrysler reliability.
VTEC kicked in, yo.
The pain of driving a compliance car at any considerable distance.. I remember doing this in a Ford Focus Electric that has 75-80mi range driving between San Diego and LA. Had to tailgate behind big rigs, slowly accelerate on downhills to gain momentum, reduce speed on uphill, plan all my charging hops on level 2... It took 3-4 hours if I have to stop and charge, all day if I had to travel round trip.
3 yr ev user here in flatland Ohio. 3 different eve's. Zero range issues once we understood the game. Wife is #1 driver. Her technique is get in car and go. Rarely charge outside of our house. Over the 3 yrs public chargers have been springing up like mushrooms.
29:08 Linus tech tips needs to build you a server look at all the external drives on the self in the background
I dont know about that egolf, but I sure want to move to Colorado, tourism Colorado should sponsor you guys.
No no no! Colorado is now suffering from influx and growth issues ( housing, infrastructure (TRAFFIC), water, loss of habitat, history, paving over paradises True. ) No sponsorship! Colorado is a terrible place to live. Ok false but it used to be a lot better. Ask me how I know. 71 years a resident. 0 population growth for the planet. But if you're a good guy willing to preserve and protect we can probably make room for you.
@@wavoconqueso I think everywhere is getting worse in regards to population growth and destruction. And luckily its predominately nature that appeals to me about Colorado so protecting it makes sense to me.
I appreciate your enthusiasm for protecting the environment!
It’s really cold here with blizzards and massive car accidents! Horrible traffic in the Denver area! License plates are expensive! Wind blows a lot! Oh and housing is super expensive!
Awesome scoring system. This should be a standard. Yes e cars need more range but we are well on our way. Loving your channel.
As a sidenote: the eGolf is an outgoing model. It is being replaced by the I.D. 3, which will get a much larger battery at 77 kWh and a range of 550 km 👍🏻
Too bad we won't get the ID3 here in america.
As someone who lives on a hill. My EV stopped at 8% remaining 3 times. One time I was lucky and made it home. But I never trust the warning light again.
I really like the test. For scoring, I suggest tweaking it a bit so that if the car completes the test that it doesn't get a '0'... Though the e-Golf takes a long time to charge compared to the standard you set, it was capable of being recharged, so '0' doesn't make sense. By comparison, the e-Golf doesn't actually have enough range to complete the whole test, but the car still got a 1.8, so that seems inconsistent...
Another thing that would be interesting for TFL to explore (partnering with Engineering Explained?) is to break down the constituents of energy consumption in a vehicle... How many watt-hours per mile consumed at a couple of speeds (improved by being more aerodynamic), how many watt-hours consumed per 1000 feet of elevation climbed (improved by weight reduction), how many watt-hours the climate control system takes to maintain a temperature difference between the cabin and the outside (improved by low emissivity glass, insulated panels, etc), and finally, how much energy goes into other stuff (lighting, display, infotainment - which is all going to be in the noise)... People obviously don't have any clue about where their watts, and watt-hours are going, and I think you guys could help understand it better...
So let me understand economics here.Tommy had to top it off at 31.8 miles driven and that cost him $4.57 while gallon of unleaded is roughly $2.50. Not bragging here but my civic gives me 40 miles range of 1 gallon at $2.50...Not to mention frustration Tommy experienced charging.I'm all for EVs but why bother?
Then charge the thing at home at 10c a kwh.
That charging station is like a taxi system, there was a minimum connection fee, plus a per minute charge, regardless of charge rate. Just like a taxi. Going just 5 miles will cost a lot more than driving yourself or taking a bike. The Tesla model of charging per kw is probably the better route. Also easier since it's automatic upon plugin. And all of this is only a real concern if this is your only vehicle and like to take a lot of trips. Using it as a commuter car where you only need to charge at home is where these really shine. And the mileage of this particular car is really low by today's standards. But your point is still valid. I plan to buy an electric car in a year or two, but keep my truck for long trips or whenever electric is not viable. Like -20° days...
@@edcooper2396 Tommy should have brought long ass extension cord to charge from his own socket
@@andrewt9204 than you have inconvenience of whole charging process outside your own garage.Tesla does it the best,but forget Tesla hence TFL troubles with fixing fender bender a while ago(and cost of it)
@@rafaljankowski2807 98% of my trips are to work, friends, family, etc, and are all within a 70 mile radius. so any EV with 200 miles of range is more than adequate if I plug in overnight. The other 2% I'll just take the truck. It would work for me, and probably a majority of people. But to eliminate ICE vehicles, I think charging will have to get to 150 miles in 10 minutes or less. Most road trips I get up and walk around for 15 minutes every gas stop anyway.
5 years later: still one of the most appealing Ev the egolf
This is awesome, I’ve been looking at EVs and my biggest concern is making to Arapahoe Basin and back from Littleton. Perfect test for that
Chops 00 Use www.abetterrouteplanner.com and it will very accurately calculate what each specific vehicle can do on a specific route.
i feel like the chase vehicle should have been the rebel with a trailer
LOL
Agreed
A golf 4motion diesel.
I’ve got range anxiety, and I’m in my living room 🤯🙈
Overall, I do like all the newer golf models.
Gotta love the father-son dynamic. Every episode is No You're Wrong
Talk all the crap you want about charging stations but, gas stations weren't any better 10 years after the Ford model T was selling and the cars were way worse than the Horse/buggy they were replacing. When you consider where EVs have gotten in such a short time compared to other disruptive technologies, it is quite remarkable. 10 years into cell phones we were still using phones with monochrome screens that barely fit in your pocket ;)
just another reason why my next vehicle will be a Tesla, I can't believe how non-tesla chargers are so unreliable! I am loving this channel for informing about this stuff. I had no idea how terrible other chargers are...
Yeah, it's disappointing how unreliable, expensive, and unfriendly they are compared to the Tesla charger network.
My next car is a Camaro ZL1 1LE. Because I dont believe in electric cars.
Brandon Martinez sorry to hear that. Unfortunately in the future electric is going to be the only thing available...and I know you're going to say otherwise so save your breath 😂😂
Andrew P not even close.
Mike H okay lol 👌
11:00 LOL I love that shot with the music. Charging stations is such a stupid process.
Subjective score. Let's think about this for a moment. Yes, it has all these convenience features. Probably a great stereo, A/C, Heater/ Cruise Control etc. But, when you decide you want to use those conveniences, it steals away from your overall range. Then on drives like you just did with it and you choose Eco + mode, then you lose the ability to use those. How convenient is it to have to choose between range and speed/convenience?
I think you should give the Kia e-Niro the same test. Everyone who has distance tested the range on it has stated the range is actually more.
I say good call, that stretch of I-70 is dangerous to be stuck on the shoulder, especially when not near a wide breakdown shoulder.
It would have been a nice 3.5 hour trip in a Golf. The known mismatch of the eGolf capacity to the test range and Hill climb may this test a range anxiety event. Still, the test provided insights. Thanks.
3:03 Coming down should be a cake-walk. It might even charge up with the regen. braking.
7:26 Or not.
9:41 I used to hypermile in a 1987 Dodge Dakota. I managed to get 22MPG at my best. Driving 55MPH makes ALL the difference in the world.
About categories in your scoring methodology:
1. I think 0-80% SoC recharge time metric is kinda useless. A more practical metric would be "miles gained after charging 15 minutes at public fast charging station".
2. Another practical metric would be "cost per mile" when charging at public stations.
i really love this loveland trials series! cant wait to see you test more evs in the future
It pogos around because there is regenerative brakes-- so constant stop signs in the shopping center etc, will add more range. Also there are recuperation modes in the egolf that help it regenerate too. The range is not a linear number...
To be fair for future test if you recharge you should take the actual driven range before charge and subtract it from the remaining range when you get back so 18-31.8= -13.8 so the e-golf's actual score is -0.8 Which creates an even playing field for the future.
Wh/M is not watts per minute. lol It is Watt hours per Mile. So while you drive you use on average ~300 Watts per mile. I remember going up to Mt. Mitchell in a Model X 100D, which is the highest point East of the Mississippi, we were averaging somewhere around ~900 Wh/M. It's hard to push all that weight up a mountain.
FOCKIN YEEEEEH!!!! MORE ELECTRIC CAR TOUGHEST TEST REAL WORLD REVIEWS!!!!!!!!!
But if you backed the Golf into a wall, it would be fixed in a week, not like 3 months for the Tesla Bumper. Also the E Golf is 50% of the price of the drivable AWD Tesla in Canada. Waiting for the E Mini for myself :-) I like a car to have some character not a washing machine on wheels.
This really does underline how far ahead Tesla is in almost every respect.
20:26 -- So you didn't discover the D/B toggle then? You just pull back on the stick and release and it toggles from D to B (or vice versa). On e-Golf regen is so smooth there's really no need to mess around with levels, just toggle!
xchopp did you watch the whole video?
I've tried two separate tries at using Electrify America stations. Both failed. One was a faulty CHAdeMO charging unit. The second was a new site at WalMart and the cable was 3-4 feet too short to reach the designated parking space.
II reported both failures to EA.
Good video. Hey I noticed recently that the Leaf+ SV/SL has the same tires as the Tesla Standard Range Plus...but the Leaf had the tires inflated to 36psi, and the a Tesla 44psi (Michelin Energy Saver tires are rated from 36-44). How much of the cars’ efficiency differences are from pure tire inflation vs. drag coefficient or other differences?
I'd guess it's mainly because the Tesla weighs much more.
I think it’s just an easy way for Tesla to boost their epa rating.
Roman is loving some Grand Funk Railroad!
I love these real world tests! That Golf would be great in south Florida! The Golf looks nice but it’s no Tesla and I feel VW could have improved it further but instead gives up. Oh well. Enjoy it while you have it!
True, but at least for me, I put 10,000 miles a year on this car with no issues.
its really not electric car..its replace by vw id 3 which is real electric car
@@dzonikg It's a damn good EV in my book (and cheaper than some of the Golf variants, after VW's big markdown and tax credit), and it does everything I need it to do. ID.3 is not doubt better, but not yet available. e-Golf is available and a great car for many people, just like a Miata is a great car for many people (people who want an SUV would claim Miata is not a decent car).
I live in Central Florida and currently have a 2017 Tiguan with a 2.0 TSI and if I can find an eGolf for under 10K I am seriously considering buying one as a second car. I love the Golf platform but would have to sell my 1987 Vanagon to make room for it!
Nearly every time I watch one of you EV testing Videos I am quickly reminded of what I wouldn't own an EV. Nothing but headaches. I am WAY too impatient to deal with issues like these. When I get into my car, I want to go. Period. If I need gas, it shouldn't take any more than about 3-4 minutes and I am back on the road. Imagine if you had arrived at that charging station nearly depleted of energy and started having those issues.
I have no headaches you speak of. Plug in my car in the garage each night, wake up to a fully charged battery.
Thats the idea of this channel 😉
11:20 "They got it to work within 15 minutes."
[Father is doing mental math] 15/2, 7.5 * 350 miles, "I could drive 2,500 miles with that time in an ICE!".
13:06 Holy crow! That sounds like a server rack.
let's do a challenge, 5 minutes later daddy says no its too risky.
I would argue against "range range range". Besides road trips, how often will you drive 250 miles in a day? I would say weight weight weight. I'm on my 6th winter on my Winter tires. My little Fit weighs 2500lbs
You guys are impeccably fair.
thanks for showing a real world experience of how bad dealing with trying to charge a car is LOL
I think Tommy cheated VW by not using the climate control system, which is what a driver of any car would do..not drive around like you're scared to drive your own car.
Nobody is going to buy electric cars and then not use the features the cars come with...this is supposed to be a real world test.
If I run out of gas, I'm calling a flatbed...
If I bought an EV, I would make sure to setup any accounts/registrations needed before using various charging stations. It's just quicker and simpler, like having an Exxon or Chevron or Shell Gas credit card with those respective fueling stations
Definition of how the E-Golf did -> 28:33. Almost but not quite 😂
Question for Tommy! What do you think the best PHEV or fully electric EV would be a great starter vehicle for a 16 y/o that lives in WV, something pre-owned and under 25K?
Matt's Cars & Music Good question. Honestly e Golfs (newer models with 125 range) are very very good. If I were you, i’d probably check out Volts. Both first and second gen are highly underrated. Stay away from first gen leafs imo.
For PHEV, a lightly used Chevy Volt would be the best. Charge at home so trips to school on electric, gas backup for no range anxiety and longer range trips. Curious what Tommy would say.
That last part with the scoring was BRUTAL!! I don’t agree with the categories or weights as they are because I think the eGolf should have gotten a higher score.
Why? Any car that can’t go at least 200 miles is just useless. Even the best EVs don’t have anywhere near an adequate range for me.
@@MegaTechpc I drive this car everyday and it is absolutely one of the best EVs in my opinion. It has a timeless design and a simplicity and classy-ness about it that I haven’t found in ANY other EV. I love it so much I would buy another one if VW kept making them. I would pick this car over a Tesla. Yes, over a Tesla. The range doesn’t matter for me because I never drive more than 40 miles in a single day. More range would only cost me more money for something I don’t use. It would be like buying 64GB RAM for my PC only to ever use 16GB. Range isn’t everything. It’s seriously overrated. Figure out how much you drive and find a car with just enough range to meet those needs. You don’t need a car with a massive battery. You’ll just pay extra for it and get less efficient driving lugging around that massive thing.
Why don't you just let them run out of power if they do, and just tow with Tesla so you don't actually get stuck? This way you know exactly how far you can go and not worry too much with the charge level and get the full trip down to zero if it happens.
Great test keep them coming.
Unfortunately the US is not getting the VW ID3, it would have been very interesting watching you guys test the ID3 and to see how it compares to the E-Golf, which it basically is replacing, also keep in mind the E-Golf is build since 2014 which makes it a 5 year old car and the new Golf 8 just came out.
Imagine thinking of scoring system that only cars years from now can get good marks on:
"This 1965 Mustang scores a zero on safety since there's no airbags or lane assist."
"What are those?"
"I don't know, but I know it doesn't have them!"
"Good point. You don't see horses running willingly off a clif, do ya?"
E golf vs TDI. Time over distance vs cost please. The 2 most economical Golfs. My money is saying the TDI isn't far off in fuel cost, and over 1 hour shorter time.
Watch, before long Amazon will be selling roof pods with an extra battery for extra range.
Scoring system well thought out for future comparison and to track/document EV improvements.
20:00 regen is less efficient than coasting, thats why eco mode turns regen off throttle off
You gave it a 6. Come on, it's so cheap and you fit in the back seat. It deserves more than 6. I believe that for what it delivers as a car it's a pure 9.
I don't know if autonomy is that important since the best swimmer can drown. What is important is safety assistance for me.
First and best test sir thank you.
Love your test scoring system!
Point proven electric has a long way to go. Thank you for your sacrifice!
evan hale This Golf is ancient from an EV perspective. The technology is very basic and is not indicative of what is current. As a Raven Model S owner I can tell you that living with a good/great EV is delightful.
They don't have a long way to go at al, this is 6 year old tech, Teslas are 2 generations ahead of this car
@@mcamodell pshhh Tesla cybertruck looks like a 3 year olds sketch
@@mcamodell They are also on the higher end. Not everyone can afford that.