Being "PASS FIRST" in NBA 2K is NOTHING BUT AN EXCUSE! NBA 2K24 Random Rec Gameplay
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- By no means am I encouraging ball hogging or being a shot chucker, but I believe that MOST players who say they are "pass first" are simply using the term as an excuse for not being competent scorers. Players who deem themselves pass first are simply trying to relieve themselves of any scoring responsibilities. I love passing as much as anyone, but realistically, as a point guard in 2K... you have to be able to score FIRST. Just look at the NBA and tell me how many "pass first" point guards there are these days. It is an archaic archetype and ideology.
Twitter: @BeLikeDime
Any PG that can actually create their own shot consistently knows it puts pressure on the D and opens up the offense. The narrative is that ppl hate “ball hogging PGs” but in my experience if your teammates see u know what youre doing & you’re willing to make passes they will let u rock & fall in line.
real shiiiiiii, ima find you but if my shot is there ima take it, until it’s not there and i can swing to the open man💯
💯💯💯💯 this was well said g. I play pg but I met randoms who was cooking in the pick n roll I’m letting them rock out and secure the dub. But trust me if they start selling I’m getting mine 😂
@@TwanSmay facts. If I’m selling as the Pg I have no issue getting tf out the way. & trying to impact the game somewhere else.
I never have an issue with a PG cooking up. Do you. I get mine when it's my time..
@@TheThinkingMansTemplar na I am the PG cooking up gang lol. But if the SG is cooking I have no problem hopping in his book bag & letting him carry me to a victory.
As a pg with a 90 middy and and a 97 3 ball, I shoot 60 from the field and 3. I come into rec randoms games passing first. If I don’t, if I shoot an open shot and miss, I’ll never see the ball again regardless of if I average 10 assists a game. This community sucks..
Same
I would keep giving you the ball regardless cause you’re the point guard and you average 10 assists so I know you have IQ and understand how to run the offense. You’re right. The community is trash
If u miss first shoot , ur not their PG anymore. They treat u like 6th man. Centers are toxic ash..
I have this discussion all the time with my friends you have to be able to create for others and create for yourself because if you don’t, the offense will be stagnant, a scoring point guard is a dangerous point guard all that pass first stuff is cap and people are scared to shoot because they can’t
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I'm definitely pass first because I have a knack for reading defenses and making a couple reads, but that's so I can get my teammates going and show that you can't just leave them without being punished. Establishing that I can make those reads makes it easier for me to get mine later in the game because I'll get less coverage due to establishing that vision. My only problem is I need to find a balance between the audacious passes and aggressive scoring
@@Spawnamvs That's really my game. I always am reading defenses first and my game comes off the defense a team runs. If it's just man on man, likely, I'll have to attack, someone will help and I kick to the shooter. If someone has a mismatch, I give to the mismatch. If I see someone sagging off, I find the open man. It's really not much of scoring unless a team ins playing really tight. Cause some games, I come out with like 4 points or something but 15 assists and we win by 20 due to my teammates getting easy looks off me. That's what reading defense PG's do and it's so effective. You don't need to be score first. You just need to be able to score when you are open
I’m pass first because I find it more fun than scoring. Magic is one of my favourite players because of his passing. I’d rather have 20 assists than score 40 but I CAN score. In rec I average 20 on 70% fg. If I’m playing with a team that’s incapable of anything offensively, I’ll go get my buckets. I played 3 rec games today and went 43/45 across the 3 games because no ones used to guarding the midrange and someone with really high layup. I’m definitely not scared to shoot, I just find passing fun.
I’ve been pass first since a kid my
Diming three level threat play like Penny but if you can’t get a bucket at pg you’re actually hurting the team by allowing the defense to stay home and play the passing lanes. 🤝🏾
Facts. It's that simple!
Remember pgs, if yo shot not falling don’t keep hoisting it up, that’s when u get your team involved, playing with too many guys going 7/18 with only 2 assist and end up getting blown out by 30 while they play no defense
This is the conversation we should have
I didnt load up to only get 3 attempts…
@@j.landron8414at the end of the day though if the shit ain’t falling you shouldn’t be like “imma get mine”, you see if somebody else got it. Nobody wants to sit around but it’s rare every game your whole team plays like superstars…that’s why fundamentals/being all-around is important
The ones who are old heads and want u to be a pass first PG but they can’t score playing the sf is crazy 😂
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Bro those old heads that want u to be John Stockton with 25 assist pass it to them for post moves down 15.. they have me mad as hell dime Man U know what I’m talking about😂
cap im a oldhead an i dont condone that bs 😂😂
Lmao the ones that cut all day and say you missed me all day.. But can’t score in their own
As a PG i Can score… but i start off passing the ball to the team because if i don’t they QUIT or start using ALL THE TIMEOUTS all because im scoring. But when i pass the ball THEY CANT HIT A SHOT lol
Yeah in random rec you gotta set the tone for sure.
nah thats what im sayin, they get mad theyre not the one with the points.
@@sheeeeeesh3622literally I’m PASS FIRST but not PASSIVE, it’s a difference, if my teammates space the floor correctly & just want me to cook my mismatch I’ll go to work, but if dudes is constantly cutting, using timeouts, not playing d, getting left wide open, AND ON TOP OF THAT make stupid builds (pure insides that can’t contribute to anything) it’s just annoying to experience.
Took my new Russell Westbrook build to random rec didn’t end well.. video on my channel
I used to have that problem in 2k21 but what I realize is that if you are an above average player you HAVE to take over after a while. The easiest way is by giving everybody the ball at the start and only take a shot if you are WIDE open. Once everybody start missing they will feel more comfortable letting you take over. It’s a mind game with the randoms.
The title says it all, “Being "PASS FIRST" in NBA 2K is NOTHING BUT AN EXCUSE!,” as there is nothing more frustrating than playing with a gun shy PG that believes you can run that position as a player in the background. “I just like to get others involved” is a cop out for lack of stick skill or lack of confidence. It doesn’t do your team any good if your man knows you aren’t an offensive threat in the half-court. To me, these types just want to feel like they’re contributing while touching the ball a lot, but in reality, they have very little to do with winning and usually a lot to do with getting blown out (and getting a good teammate double teamed).
I agree to an extent but as someone who averages 18.5 on 63/72 splits at SG/SF letting certain pgs cook when you've consistently gotten yourself open off ball 2 or 3 times in the same possession and they've just missed you and kept dribbling the whole posession as if they don't see you or read the stats before the game is infuriating.
No one should be offended after you explained yourself. I can play 1-5 but I rather main a big but, I have to PG because all my ppl are afraid of TOs. I definitely say I’m a pass first Lock type of PG but, currently this season on Xbox I’m shooting 66.7% from 3, 65% from the field and 100FT. PS is mid 50s for 3s and from the field and 95%FT. Everything you said is spot on, you have to be able to contribute or you’ll be the reason someone is getting double team because you pose no threat.
7:41 maybe I’m trippin but this looked like good shot to me , definitely didn’t look like a 17% contest , and that’s 2K’s biggest flaw
I agree fam. No way that should have been 17...hopefully they tweak the contest system a bit for the next game.
That is at least a 17% contest. The guy was jumping at you with a hand up
I agree with you 10000000% I love to pass and that’s apart of my style of play but no way in hell am I finna be scanning the floor the entire time when I have a bucket. I’m gonna score which ultimately will open up shots for my teammates. Vice versa boys just be too scary with the rock in their hands to run PG 😂
I agree. I like setting my teammates up and making the right play/pass but sometimes guys be brickin or not finishing the play when they catch the ball… so then I flip the switch and stop worrying about them and just focus on winning.
You are so right. I’ve learned how to tell real quick if I got a passive PG or aggressive one. And when I play, I’ll look around but you can bet if I see a lane or open shot I”m take it. I had one dude complaining how I wasn’t passing the ball one time yet I was leading the team in assist with 7 before middle of the second quarter. Some folks are better to stay on mute for their own sake lol😂
Yea I had to learn this early on in 2k because with my point forward I was passing so much but then I had to realize I gotta score also
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Fax, if you can't put pressure on the defense, they won't leave their man
Simple!
I feel as though pass first is good when playing with randoms, you know how randoms be when you get hot. They stop handing you the rock and start to play hero ball. Playing random rec, when you score too much they stop giving you ball, even when you also pass the ball. But if youre playing with a squad and they know you, its ok to hold on to the ball and facilitate the points.
This video is right on time. As a PG I’m having to have this conversation multiple times a day win or lose.
You're right. I used to say I was pass first, but really I'm just unselfish and try to make good reads for my team. It's all situational for sure. If someone is open I'll get it to them, but until then you gotta try and break down the defense and get your team opportunities. If a bucket presents itself you gotta take it.
The point guards gravity is a big part of getting the defense out of position.
It also depends who you are playing with. If I have 3 scorers around me it's going to be even easier to get buckets and assists.
You gotta be a threat to score or you're easy to guard.
Word, pass first is just code for can't shoot. It's a shame that the player base is going down, I think they should make Rec the casual mode with MyCareer type shooting windows so these buls stay on and play 2K. I don't mind because I like shooting but I know these players aren't having fun out here just passing because they can't shoot.
I said it before and I’ll say it again fu*k playing the PG in random rec. If you don’t pass first possession you won’t touch the ball anymore. But the dude they pass too will take 10 contested layups and keeps getting the ball… why?! 😂 I’ll stick to making SG’s and I ain’t passing shit unless someone is butt naked open and once the PG messes up I end up running the offense anyways 😂
I start the game usually trying to get other guys involved. Depending on how they do, I either space the floor and let them cook, or I flip the switch and turn into a primary scorer. I have a two way Diming three level threat. Being able to read the situation and play the role you need to play to win is underrated in random rec.
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It rarely works trying to go in str8 passing, especially when your teammates not reciprocating that same energy
i was pass first from 2K14-17. but randoms have turned me into a score first guard (i've always been able to get my own bucket since way back, but these dudes are too awful to rely on to score)
I’m kinda 50/50 on the opening topic. But I mean in random rec, it’s hard to be any one singular thing. I do know of guys who win consistently & stay true to being pass first though. Guys like ItzChrisJones.
I’d argue that being elite at pass first is much more indefensible because 99.9999% of PGs think score first & THATS predictable.
People don’t have court vision like you dime you a real GOAT
It totally depends. I average 20 and 16 and can easily go off for 40 if need be. I just understand that other people want to enjoy the game too and just don’t want to watch me be the star every single game. Keep in mind I do not play with randoms though, so I know my teammates are capable. Don’t get it twisted though. If I need to take over, I will gladly do so. Random rec is a different story because you get teammates that are so incompetent that being pass first is like asking to lose the game depending on the teammates you get. I feel what you’re saying, though. I have about 10 builds and one of them has a 99 pass accuracy. I swear I will dot dudes and they will still brick. I also completely agree with what you said about what happens if you get slotted at the two. If they slot me there I’m dropping 30. No questions asked.
Hey hey hey!!! Im a pass first PG. I avg 18 and 12. My team had to force me to start scoring. Lol
Tbh the reality is that u need people who’s gonna play there role. U have to play with people who aren’t really selfish and want to win. I go through the same stuff as u g. I’m originally a PG but I can run anything as long as I’m playing with somebody who knows what they’re doing
Dime always talking facts man 😭
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Salute fam!💯
Bro pass the ball , fuck I hate pgs who can't pass... bro shoot, fuck I hate a pg who can't score 😂 randoms will say this for the same pg 😂😂
Lol word
I was pretending to be a first pass point for a minute ngl. But ive seen the light lol. This video is on point
Dime what’s good bro?, I feel like the best pgs can find that balance between when they have to get teammates involved & when they have to take over & score
Thats a fact fam! Couldn't agree more.
Basically he’s saying
You have to have iq
You can’t be on dimensional as a pg
People think that position is easy
But it’s not when you playing against good defenders
People want you to pass as soon as you touch the ball as a pg
Bruh I think what makes the standing dunks crazy is the fact that the pass can lead you to the perfect spot to just meter dunk more often than not.
Facts, It’s annoying being the only who can make shots downs stretch or create shots for others, My friends are great at the game but it kills me when they get pissed cause they aren’t getting there average because Im scoring, Like damn I love to pass thats the whole point of my build but like you said if you can score and are open get the basket, I average a double double in rec and still get this conversation all the time.
a pass first pg isnt a bad thing. When I play point guard I like passing because I know from my own experience playing center a lot of so called comp guards don't like to pass the ball to the open shooter in the corner or the obvious mismatch when a 6'10 big is matched up against a 6'3 ai center all because they want to take a 50 percent contested pull up from 3. I'm a basketball player before a 2k player.
Yeah these shoot first point guards be ball hogging nobody care that u can shoot If your team can't score then cool take over but even if they got a good team still wanna shoot every shot I got a 94 perimeter so I love locking those type PGs down pass the ball clown
being pass first can be situational, it can also be preference. specifically for guys like you who used to prioritize passing & defense ONLY in past 2Ks you know how frustrating it is to strictly be pass first being in challenging situations. for someone like myself who avg 16 & 8 w/randoms there are games I choose to go w/o a shot attempt for the benefit of the team up until that clock hits 0:00 prioritizing the win, unfortunately everyone can't be a combo guard and that's okay as long as you know your limitations.
My g-pa used to say
If they ain’t gonna do it for me then I ain’t gonna do it for them.
Words I live by when playing with randbums
Bruh I swear with the AI I be tryin to hug him and not cheat off but when they get the pass it pushes you off! Great vid
This is more accurate than people want to admit 😢
Definitely accurate
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As an old head of 2k been playing since 2k13 and 11, I’ve been saying this everytime I get a team that says move the ball. Everytime you pass and it’s a turnover and they get mad you passed it you can never win with these low IQ people. Had a center last night who said “guard your man” in a 5v5 I’m chasing him all over the court eventually he’s going to score against my low defense build however if I shade him to help and no one helps is it really my fault? Eventually he starts getting blocks and we win the game… crazy right? I swear I always lose because of a bum ass center it never fails.
When I be playing on my playmaking 3 Level Threat, If I see my teammates making good shots from my passes then I’ll let them eat the whole game. But if they’re not making anything then, I’ll try to be aggressive and take over. So it’s kinda 50/50 with me when it comes to playing as the PG.
Been using your community build lately. Good build man
I appreciate it bro! Definitely one of my favorite builds...especially when playing solos.
The term pass first is really just a concept. I consider myself a pass first player because more times than not, I'm passing more than I am scoring cause that's my game. I'm not much of a guy that thinks that I can do everything on the offensive end. I'm not the best dribbler in the world, I hate taking moving 3's and I'm not the most gifted finisher in the world. But I have been practicing all those skills, mostly in MyTeam against All Star or Superstar difficulty which Rec is. It's made me much more of a scorer but I always think to pass first because 9 times out of 10, when I attack, which I do often, someone is coming to help and someone is open.
Great vid Dime 💯🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥ps you absolutely right 💯
Great gameplay. I love the way you demanded the last shot and hit that bih!
Be like diiiime!
Everybody says they're a pass-first pg, CAP! I average 15-plus assists with only taking 5 shots. Win percentage is over 60 with randoms. Nice video.
Facts gang a pg who a threat helps the offense
I swear we played a 5 out guard in squad Rec and he had a full 5 with 98 pass accuracy on his build.
We literally said screw it everyone stay home and force the PG to score and man… that pass first PG was cooked.
Even in random Rec most people will find out someone is pass first and play off of that.
If you truly want to be pass first you still have to be able to score off ball or anticipate being a give and go option
I look at a pass first pg as someone who starts the ball movement. And the whole team should be willing to move the ball. I look to draw players to me and facilitate an OPEN basket. Now if the lane opens im not stupid... but im looking to get the defense out of position. Having high dribble and passing. Thats a pass first pg to me. If i keep breaking the D down and nobody helps then im dropping 100 lol.. but what i aint gonna do is stand at the top and hold the ball 15 seconds...
2k needs to start putting shooting percentages and win percentages next to people’s names in the lobby in the rec I swear to god, I’m leaving every room that has a 0% 3 point shooting big and sub 50% win rate team it’s gonna be a gg.
I mean u right but damn it be some easy bones you can throw like right hereee 1:08 🤦🏾♂️
I don't throw passes like that because sometime guys can get bad animations and end up getting blocked etc, or sometime they think you're going up with it so they not ready...I've seen it go bad too many times. If I catch the ball in stride to the rim I just go up with it to not complicate shit.
I believe being a “pass-first” PG in random Rec is stupid. I’ve only played solo dolo three times this 2K and trying to feed bums was driving me insane. Luckily I run with at least 3 friends every time, so yes I’m a pass-first PG. I make sure to let my guys eat and then I start cooking. I’m a reliable 20 and 20 for my boys, but if I need to score in order for us to win that not an issue.
U aint shit if you cant do it in Random Rec. 😂
@@j.landron8414 And I will take the "You Ain't Shit" MVP to the crib, because fuck Random Rec! 🤣
At this point, I just spend the entire first half passing the ball because you can't win with randoms. I score first and after 3 or 4 straight makes, I get a timeout spammed and immediately someone coming on the mic spewing ignorance about how they didn't buy the game to watch me. Then I try to pass first and they miss 5 straight corner 3s and they don't take the open lane. It's really just a hope endeavor.
I been playing center alot and now that I’m back on guard I got a habit of passing too much instead of scoring myself
You ain't tripping g standing dunks this year are crazy if you get out of position in any way you getting put in the basket
Standing dunks hella op. If you got a good big that knows how to use the meter you’re in for a long game
I always go in looking for teammates to score first. If they start throwing up bricks then i will start scoring
Playmaking is passing and scoring, people always forget that
Yea the PG & SG gotta be the main 2 shot creators and take what they can get
good players realize that being a pass-first will lose you games
It's Really Season 5 and These Randoms Still Can't Shoot 🤦
bruh shooting is literally braindead easy now compared to the start💀 a lot of people are simply awful with their hands (dexterity) or some have trash reflexes/reaction time and may not know it.
Alot of valid points brought up in this vid i just started playin random rec heavy and i notice despite the other team being trash these dudes cant space the floor nor can they create a shot when they have the ball 😂
I be dropping 20 pts on 8/8 from the field, 14 assists, 1 TO and these SG be wanting to take the ball out of my hands to shoot 3/14
I feel like dunks are balanced no one be making high interior defense builds but I also feel like there should be a badge next year too help improve ability to defend against it based off vertical, interior defense, and Block and if you don’t have this set badge regardless of the situation you will be posterized for trying to defend a high flyer without this badge
I feel like they found a formula when it comes to the dunk meter but they should expand on it when it comes to shot blocking. You shouldn't have to rely on rng to stop bad dunk attempts
@@Spawnamvs exactly but I also feel safe like safe dunks should be dunks like windmills,back scratches,two hand dunks,reverse dunks, and certain Tomahawk not animations that you can get with an average dunks less athletic dunks realistically should be more difficult to score with in traffic
@@kemalhudson7040 I commented twice but misunderstood what you were saying smh. I agree but I feel those safe dunks should be also be one's that the defense can interact with based on positioning and timing rather than rng.
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Random rec pg life ain’t for the weak. If you pass too much they say you can’t score, if you score too much they say you can’t pass. I’d average 100 assist if people could actually hit their shots.
Aye yo dime. Is jordan layup package better than bron animation wise or is jordan just your personal preference?
I agree with entirely. It took me a long while for me to get comfortable being aggressive. But when im aggressive, i draw doubles for easy passes. Most teams just wanna spam passing lanes anyway so you have to figure out ways to score so they can help on you (the pg).
Question: How do yall get guards and bigs to stop setting screens in half court?
I do my best to play exactly like that. If we up hella, I’m happy to spread the wealth but if the game tight, I’m the one with the highest 3pt % so ofc I’m taking the shot
I completely agree my main build is a pg and I like to think I score just as good as I pass I have a 3 level threat and I avg 20 and 7 with him but I also have a diming inside out scorer that I avg 20 and 10 with pass first or not being aggressive is gonna get your teammates open regardless
Ya I made a 99 pass ac build because I have had enough of these old heads telling me to stop dribbling if I put the ball on the floor once.
Dime really be out here with no defense giving up 6 points. But my teammates get 30 put on they head like it’s regular
Dimes players look different every video😂😂. One day he lightskin next day dark w a afro.
Wdup to the goat! You spot on, standing dunks is crazy this year. Also the center is in the restricted area under the rim, so I feel contents aren’t too effective so jumping might me the best bet
Ngl fam, I’m just now making a PG this year and I feel so pressured and anxious to be that pass first and facilitate or come in and be a scorer. However, I know it’s all situational and I do be panicking and over passing sometimes. Especially when it seems like my teammates can’t score at all😂
I’m a willing and capable passer. But my teammates are almost never better scorers than me.
Lmao gotta be pass first in random rec because when you cooking they mad, when you missing they mad. Pass to them early and keep them engaged. It’s annoying but it is what it is. Random rec PGs know.
Hey dime, how do you feel about Patty Mills jumpshot? It's the meta currently for small guards but that shit is hard to time.
I haven’t hit starter 3 yet. I started my rep in December because I never played park.
It doesnt pay to be a pass first pg even if you can score at will. You start the game off setting teammates up then after you get them going your matchup starts leaving you wide open then the passes go to everybody else except the wide open pg. So in a sense i dont blame the pgs that dont pass if theyre a walking bucket
I’m a pass first point I’ll try to get the team involved early but if you show me you can’t get buckets don’t get mad when I take over
Hmmm how do I put this I don’t agree with the take but I understand were your coming from especially with rec randoms trust me I hear you and as a really elite passer/scorer I believe that the best thing u can do is find a balance the more you don’t pass the easier the defense job is and also the more your teams morale (especially considering randoms) drops which equals whining trolling etc so u have to keep defenses honest which one opens up oppritunitys to score more for you and also allows your teammates to get going again Ik it’s random rec so logic does go out of the window sometimes but that’s just basketball also just making the right play if u have a good look or can create one take it but if a guy from the wing corner etc is being too helpful I’m dotting him until he respects it
No fr mane literally I played with people who cried about me passing but they throwing up straight bricks and I’m not even a 1 😂😂
Yo do you ever run with your subs?
Also not from this vid but, that jumper for the 6’3 guard is nice. Put it on and went straight in…would’ve thought there was a bank on the court. Easy smooth cash
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Solo rec was a big W 2k did
5:01 Aye Dime you said something that was hilarious because it's true. You would think IQ would be something most of these players have on 2k because it's a key to basketball, right?
SHOUT OUT MY BOY DIME
Do you ever run with subscribers or fans cause I be getting sold
Banger W vid it was hella entertaining 🔥💯💯u got be more consistent doe
Love the content
Thanks 💯💪
Tbh its best if everyone on the team is like the clippers , the whole 5 is talented. But when it gets rocky, you do gotta AT LEAST have those one or 2 guys to bring the ball up. Other than that its like the real nba, that pass first stuff dead
can we get more of the 7 ft build, maybe on the 2s?
Being pass first means giving up a good shot for a great shot.
Not even finna cap after seein that big in the first 2 minutes he’s the reason im not pass first😭
when someone says they “pass first”, all I hear is that they will hold that ball until they see an assist.
Those are the worst type of point guards… MF’s be refusing to move the ball unless there’s an assist for them.
If you want to see who’s an elite pg in 2k, you have to look at the team assists. If the pg got 8-15, sg got 6-10, sf got 4-8, pf got 4-8, and the C got 5-10, that’s how you know you have an elite point guard
get everybody involved
In a perfect world yea, but More often than not it’s never like that w/ randoms. Ima PG and I’m usually the only person on the court w/ any kind of passing vision or anticipation.
@@willcfjackson5114 Yeah with randoms for sure, I agree.
I’m just speaking as in lfg posts or playing with friends. The best point guards are the ones who allow the rest of the team to create offense.
@@deezosaintloyal i feel u but don’t necessarily agree. The best PGs in my opinion are the ones that can create a shot, read a rotating, understands their personnel, and try and spread the ball around evenly. I’m in a party chat w/ like 10+ppl and we all run together many different lineups. Out of all those ppl only 3 of us can’t create our own shot. Everyone else has to be set up. If I’m playing and I just let everyone create their own offense we would lose a lot against the better defending teams. Against the bums it doesn’t really matter. Gotta know your personnel
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My g! #salute
How do y’all time the step back jumpers
I can do everything I this game except score. That’s why I am NOT a pg lol I am always looking to pass. If you catch me out on the court be ready to get all the points you can score. Cuz you getting the ball