What might Elder Scrolls VI: High Rock be like? [ Lore l Storyline l Gameplay l Thalmor ]
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By the time es6 actually comes out, the fans will already have made it themselves. First we determined the location, now the plot, next we’ll be making a new engine for it
You know, why not? Game design by comitee. I'd give that a shot. Throw together a few hundred people with ideas and plans. Smack together the best ideas. Build it using a hundred people across the world and ship it to steam. If you get a good director in charge of it that could work. I hereby name it Mega-development. Get on it, internets.
Lars Erik Volden What you just described is basicly what bethesda is doing
That's an interesting perspective.
Why make a new engine? Why not use existing ones like UE4 or CryEngine?
Well looking at all the massiv projects that already exist and will never be finished I doubt fans will do it in time.
Just saying, it would be pretty stupid if they set the next game in a region all about knights and chivalry without improving mounted combat
and combat itself, but High Rock is also know about magicka,
High Definition Apollo We have the same pro pic. *Fire And Blood* brother...
Shogun X00 Fire and blood
The studio have probably 9 years between the last one so who knows, maybe they focused on that (they definitely will improve it) look at the differences between fallout 3 and 4 haha
Just remove all combat,
problem solved
One thing I consider very important to Elder Scrolls 6 is that each of the major cities has a distinct identity. By distinct identity I mean by the architecture, color palette, economy, and quests. One problem with Skyrim was with the exception of Markarth the cities did not feel as unique from one another as compared to Oblivion. Also it would be nice if each city had different ambient background music.
Kyle Parkerson if its High Rock that should be a definite. Kust from the number of kingdoms with differences in cultures.
Well just Falkreath Morthal Dawnstar and Winterhold the other ones were good
I wished Falkreath, Dawnstar and Morthal had a more unique look, like the other cities. Winterhold would be ok, since it sucked in the sea. But all these cities are very ancient and it's weird that they're just some wooden houses.
what are you talking about? Most of the cities felt exactly the same in Oblivion. Skyrim was the one with the unique cities imo. All of the major cities in Skyrim had unique architecture and their own unique things going on. Markarth with its dwemer architecture and conspiracies. Riften being a fishing town with heavy Thieves Guild presence, etc. How are the cities not unique? I have no idea why people think Oblivion did it better
Lol it's the complete opposite actually. Oblivion cities were literally copy pasted 😂😂
Maybe when Im 65 Bethesda will make an Elsweyr game.
Marie so true...!
I could live with that; I'm already 62.
Elsyweyr would be way to complicated due to the lore implications we will most likely never get the region tbh im looking forward to blackmarsh and vanelwood.
When will we go to akavir?
Even if it comes out in 51 years I’ll still buy it
This is Bethesda so we can assume the whole politic thing you are talking about will be a shallow major side quest that doesn't live up to the potential, like the Civil War in skyrim
They had a little backlash for how simplified the civil war was, so who knows what they'll do next game? I'd really love to see some Red Wedding stuff in there!
~ Tim
Yea most of skyrims cut content was due to the underpowered consoles at the time, but this game is looking like it might be next gen or cross gen since it will still be a couple of years before it releases. They definitly need to up their story part though if they want to keep up with other RPG's, and they have a lot to live up to since there are a lot of people nostalgiac for Daggerfall.
Also we never have gotten a proper game of thrones game, so bethesda could fill that need for medivieal politics
The Civil War WAS planned to be a lot more to be fair.
The civil war wasn't shallow at all. The "story" can be see throughout the entirety of the province. The actual quest line is just acting out the war, but the real meat of the conflict can be see everywhere In skyrim. Its called worldbuilding. It added a very interesting layer of political strife to the realm. People still argue to this day which side was right, so i'd say it did its job well enough for a 2011 game. Besides, its not as if Bethesda ever had super "deep" questlines...
@@Joshcoshbagosh the world building is fine but the quest line itself is pretty poor and ultimately inconsequential to the main storyline and that's disappointing. It could have been far more interesting than it ended up being.
In Skyrim, you can get by on your strong arm alone. If you want to succeed in High Rock, you have to be clever.
so we need REAL puzzles this time
Yes, I feel like I want it to be like the Fallout: New Vegas karma system, that would be nice.
@@ojroche5217 but who would decide what's right and wrong
@@privateuser3726 JULIANOS THE FREAKING GOD OF LOGIC AND WISDOM. KNEEL BEFORE YOUR GOD!
@@JTomas96 but logic and morality are entirely separate things and would be more a judgment of what the most logical action would be
Hey everyone! *As stated at the very start of the video, this is just about what High Rock could be like. Yes, there is a good chance it's Hammerfell too* . What do you think the sixth Elder Scrolls game will be like, if it's based in High Rock? I think it'd be really cool to have some Red Wedding type stuff happen in game, to make it so your choices have *real* consequences. Back this up with a system where we can track the interests, weaknesses, whereabouts, and plans of the characters in High Rock, and we can have a meta-level where you strategise and the actual play-level where you steal/assasinate/converse/bribe/blackmail people. Making it so that it's just as fun to have those alternate play styles (as it is an ES game, you can't *stop* people murdering everyone). What do you think?
~ Tim
I was watching the elder scrolls 6 announcement then I found your channel this morning. Not a bad thing. More of an AMAZING THING
Hello Future Me I'm pretty sure it'll be amazing regardless of what gameplay, storylines, main quest and the like.
So long as you make videos on it! ^^
Welcome to the community Brooklyn Vasko! And I'll definitely be making videos on it.
~ Tim
I'm glad you used the Game of Thrones example, because that would be exactly who I'd like to see them do ES6. Here is what I picture. Like you said, the whole chess game thing, but with 6 players instead of 2. But include the multiplayer from Fallout 76, so now you have a bunch of players from Daggerfall fighting against Shornhelm. Your idea for a bunch of guilds sounds amazing. It would be nice to return to a more roleplay focused Elder Scrolls game, seeing as recent games slowly removed major roleplay features like reputation and meaningful decisions. Orsinium, Wayrest and the Reach need to be treated as sort of hostile areas. The corsairs could house a sort of pirate focused thieves guild, but anyone else would and should treat it as bandit infested land. Orsinium should be hard to enter, but if you earn the trust of the orcs that should unlock a quest to help them establish themselves as a nation, or to resurrect Trinimac.The Reach should be another bandit land, unless you side with the Forsworn.
I’m really excited about a system that if you do something or kill someone in a city then it effects that community harshly or profitably. In Skyrim it always felt you could kill someone, leave the city for a few days, then return and there are no consequences.
I'm worried that Bethesda won't make it as complex as it needs to be, whether it's High Rick or not. I get kinda disappointed when I read the lore from previous games and then look at Skyrim, like... it's just snowy Cyrodiil, for the most part. I really hope the Bretons get to keep their interesting culture. I very much do not want to see slightly magical Cyrodiil. I want High Rock. Same goes for Hammerfell, if the game takes place there.
They do a lot of simplification of the lore for the games, and while I really hope they don't, I know they will, to some extent. I just hope they don't simplify certain parts of the lore I really love.
~ Tim
I can definitely understand the need for simplification in some ways, but I'm still worried they'll do it a bit too much, we can only hope the province keeps its character. Also, thanks for the reply! It's really cool to see you reply to fans, especially when you consider how many other TH-camrs just don't have time to.
Miza Aquarni ........ A mazing
I wanna be a werebear goddamnit Todd
what are you talking about? Skyrim is literally nothing like Cyrodill.
I have my doubts that Bethesda could make a game as good as you describe here.
Cypher you said what I was thinking, I’m still gonna buy Elder Scrolls 6 and I’m hoping that the game is going to be amazing but with how successful Skyrim is I’m nervous that the game might be a clone with a few differences here and there.
This, Bethesda Softworks are too focused on making _accessible_ games than making good games these days. TESVI will still be fun don't get me wrong, but if you're expecting strategic gameplay between feuding nations you're setting yourself up for disappointment.
Also I think Hammerfell is more likely than High Rock.
Riftis Bethesda Softworks doesn't make games. That's Bethesda Game Studio. Also, if it had been Hammerfell the music would have sounded Arabic, not medieval European.
Roderic Kingfield I could also argue that if it was High Rock the title wouldn't have looked like it was made from Dwemer metal. It may be set in both regions though, like Daggerfall.
Why can´t a High rock centered game not include a Dwemer Story line? The Dwemer had their cities like all over Tamriel (except Summerset Islands maybe). I also hope for a return of the dwemer (with Kagrenac as their leader?) possible as some theories suggest that they didn´t just vanished but entered a new dimension.
Only possible scenario that would make sense two have more than one Region would be a War Centered Story with the Dominion fighting another country.
Give us back spears please and thanks
Bring all the morrowind weapon types back. Oh and the armor system too
I’m actually hopeful they will, given they did layered armor in FO4
Thalmor Inquisitor They probably will, and should do layered armor
Hard agree, and pauldrons
I did even two runs with Spear/Hand-to-Hand combo in Morrowind. IT was OP as fuck especiallly on a higher Difflicut.
The game you described gets me so excited for the potential of elder scrolls six. Very fun ideas, I love the level of thought that would need to be put into actually playing the game if it was as you theorized. I hope that Bethesda really include all of the intrigue and depth to the game that you theorized.
Considering Fallout 76, I think, Bethesda loves their building mechanics, so I would expect a castle building added. I just hope there wont' be some esquire constantly reminding you, that some village needs your help.
14:21 that guard is very stubborn and deserves a promotion.
For a channel that is not dedicated to The Elder Scrolls, you really did an amazing job at exploring the lore and gaining a fundamental understanding of the series. This was very well done.
Thank you! I wish I could dedicate more time to it, as the lore is just so incredible.
~ Tim
Reminder to make the ATLA video answering the long awaited question:
Do, and how do spirits reproduce?
Ectogasms.
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I significantly doubt that any of the really great ideas you have will be utilized with any depth. I don't want to crap all over anyone's excitement, but if the last two installments in Bethesda's lineup are anything to go by, coupled with Howard's philosophy on merging superfluous features and simplifying design, I can't imagine the design direction changing course so drastically, and in a way that would require an expansion of features (like you would have to do with speechcraft for the espionage/politics) rather than a continued streamlining of them.
I like all of your ideas, but again-- nothing in the last fifteen years of Bethesda's approach suggests that they're looking to make things more expansive (aside from sheer size), or to have stories with branching, affective threads that interweave a dynamic story. Especially given Bethesda's shift in attitude toward game critics, how Todd Howard and the lead design team respond to criticism, and the studio's increasing reliance on modders to patch out bugs, provide missing content, and innovate new features; I'm not particularly hopeful about the state the next Elder Scrolls will release in.
I mean, it's been almost seven years since Skyrim, and each port is released with the same bugs as the game had on launch, despite community mods existing for nearly as long which fix them. The fact that Bethesda doesn't care about the launch quality of it's games, even upon multiple re-releases suggests it's completely on board Todd Howard's design philosophy, most evidenced in an interview in which he describes it as:
"For me, I'll hear a lot of players say what should be added. Oh, you should bring back throwable weapons, and add spears, or expand on this system. But our approach is more to look at what we have and say 'Okay, what does it not need?' and from there, focusing in on merging features that are superfluous for an experience that means more to the player."
Which ends on a cheery note about player agency and impact, but that design ethos is really contradictory to the sentiment when you unpack it, since it looks at features which haven't been optimized or employed effectively, and rather than asking how they can be tweaked or expanded to provide greater diversity of experience, it asks for how those lackluster features can be liquidated into assemblies of other non-premium systems to make something that's passable and inoffensive.
Howard's lead seems to aim at "what can be done to make things less effort intensive", which is fine for certain game features and mechanics, but as an overriding principle of design, it reduces to looking for ways in which the game can be less challenging, or frustrating, and as a consequence-- less rewarding and engaging.
I really wish you were on their design team.
There is a quote from Todd Howard that their dreams for the next elder scrolls game where just too big for a modern generation of hardware. Highrock is doable on modern hardware, but! High rock, and hammerfell, and potentially more, is just to big for modern hardware. I think the are throwing us off and we will get more than one province.
alex B. Quality over massive size would be better, tho. Bethsoft has a nasty habit of creating massive worlds with relatively little to do, its why Preston is a nag in Fallout 4, to keep the player occupied and distracted by how empty the world actually is.
Anstign agreed, but making a deep world doesn't take as much mechanical power as making a wide world. Also, it's the elder scrolls, and the elder scrolls is the deepest games they have.
Although Fallout 4 had a worse world than their previous entries, you have to admit Skyrim didn't. Tons of details people are just realizing.
Michiko Hamasaki Ya but they have a ton of time right now not to mention we have no idea how long they've been in development or if there even in development at all. But Skyrim was wide and deep and this one can be to.
High Rock is NOT doable on modern hardware if you want it done well.
1:06 "So what kind fo game set in High Rock be like?"
Me: Awkwardly stares as Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall.
Sounds good for a Wheel of Time rp if I can play Daes Daemar with the various houses.
how about a throwback to daggerfall and have the main quest being about the consequences of the dragon break? have parodoxes from the multiple timelines start to affect tamriel like people, objects and locations blinking in and out of existence and our job would be to unite the timelines into only one stable line.
I just had a horrifying thought: High Rock is the most mountainous part of the Empire. NOOOOO!
Isn’t Skyrim the most mountainous?
@@Valencetheshireman927 Skyrim is surrounded by mountains and has a few smaller ranges within it, High Rock is basically all mountains and foothills. Sorry for the late response, I never got a notification from TH-cam...
@@Great_Olaf5 That’s ok.👍 Thanks for the response.
i just want classes or custom classes back :\
I dont think they will. Its extremely outdated and difficult for new players, but I see what you mean. I want it back too.
I do too. Morrowind was the best
@@copyofacopyofa They should at least give the player the ability to adjust the starting skills. Skyrim gives the impression, that the protagonist either never existed before that wagon or their memory and skills were completely wiped.
Why? Whats the difference between making a custom class and just not having a class system at all?
@@kamrynturner5232 Classes give boosts to certain skills that you use. Say you use one handed a lot, you make a custom class and it will level up faster. It is certainly not outdated.
In Skyrim the companions were a new join-able faction that embodied the philosophy of the province, glory honor and mead.If tes 6 was in highrock ( not convinced yet :P ) then we should get another new guild of political Saboteurs, the player character could used their relatively unknown status as a tool to play the different houses against one another, framing innocents and working for the highest bidder. This might be a bit too similar to the thieves guild but done right the use of espionage and sabotage could help this hypothetical guild and with it tes 6 stand out from the crowd.
Love all your videos, so in-depth and analytical when needed. 1000%
And your level to find background information that underpins how the lore connects
The Breton Prowess in magic will hopefully make being a mage more useful as a build
High Rock has the potential to be the most impressive Elder Scrolls game ever made, RPG and Story wise, The kingdoms could be on the verge of war and the nation's fate hanging in the balance, the Orcs could play a part in good or bad, Kingdom vying for power and a diplomatic system that you could play a part in, diplomacy or otherwise.
The Celtic Themes in High Rock is very much traditional fantasy, with BGS' special touch I wonder how will they make it feel alot more than a traditional fantasy and I hope Dragons return
but then there's the talks of Hammerfall
The thing with the Dragon unbindinf, Gives me Ragnorok Vibes
Also....DEATH TO THE THALMOR!!!
Sandhiren Pillay I frankly hope we don’t get civil war 2: electric boogaloo. More high magic, less poor attempts at grand strategy.
I'm pretty sure after the "Fallout 76 map will be 4 times the size of Fallout 4!", Bethesda is just too ambicious to limit Elder Scrolls VI to a single nation.
All that said, this is video is very interesting :0
unfortunately, the engine itself cannot handle much more, i would hate to have all of it compressed to the size of skyrim, that is just too limiting
Pedro Scoponi i mean elder scrolls online has most nations but doesn’t have all features of skyrim
ESO is an MMO and thus has very different constraints to non-MMOs though
Fallout 76 is essentially a MMO also.
Would love to see Eric's suggestion. That was my biggest problem with Skyrim, it felt too small. Sure it could take a while to get from place to place but it still felt like you where in a little box meant to represent something much bigger (a feeling which was not helped by being surrounded on all but one side by mountains and on that side being blocked by the sea). All the cities for instance just felt like walled villages so the whole epic feeling the game wanted to provide was entirely undermined.
I’m hoping you’re right about the next game. The politics and subterfuge you described sounds amazing. I would absolutely love to play Game of Thrones. It would be awesome.
Imma find the closest House to House Stark and pledge my loyalty
Sounds like the Elder Scrolls: New Vegas. Can dig.
People keep comparing Bretons to Britons (British). Bretons in the Elder Scrolls game are like Bretonnia from the Total War franchise - they're name comes from Brittany, France who speak the Breton language, and these fictional races are more French influenced than British.
Sure, the South of England is heavily French influenced too over the centuries - but South England isn't really representative of the rest of Britain (England, Scotland, Wales). Heck, South England isn't even indicitive of England as a whole since North England is much more Norse and Celtic influenced. Yorkshire (a county in north-east England) even shares a lot of dialect with other Norse countries.
EndoScorpion
Brettonia aren't from the total war franchise
Oh damn, I meant Warhammer :D
I've only been exposed to them through the Total War games, so yeah... brain-fart :D
I take it you're french?
CarsonsChannel
Nope. English.
EndoScorpion Very true, also, England was the most centralised state in Medieval Europe which allowed it to dominate with a population estimated to be 10-20 million compared to the decentralised, highly feudal state of France who had a population of 40 million. It was England's relatively high centralisation that led to its domination of Europe (I say as a Great Power) and France during the Hundreds' Year War. So, a decentralised feudal state reflects France much more than England.
I have a hunch that ES 6 will include both Hammerfell and High Rock. Neither province is anywhere near the size of Skyrim. But combined Hmrfl\HR would be an epic region to romp around in.
Interesting little tidbit: the size of the provinces in the lore is *vastly* different to how they are portrayed in game (eg. Whiterun has "10,000" citizens). So, while in the lore Skyrim may be bigger than High Rock, the designers could make High Rock way bigger in-game and it would still be within the lore, as their size in game doesn't really correspond to size in lore.
~ Tim
I think Bethesda should do everything in this video and also make hammerfell as well. Imagine having two regions to explore.
I personally think they will do both High Rock and Hammerfell, it would make sense in terms of scale on the map of Temriel compaired to Skyrim.
Zephyr Drake
No,then they would have less detail.
And the culture would be watered down
XD
I just hope that they add on bank accounts that pay interest, which you will need to fund various enterprises, armies, etc, which means you would have to make sure your holdings and funds are big enough to support your costs.
Well I just replayed the peryite quest in Skyrim yesterday and it mentions that the afflicted are from a number of "Breton towns" and seeing the whole theories about how peryite is to be the head of the Gods in the next universe after alduin was meant to eat the universe peryite could be a big player in es6 as he starting in high rock tries to destroy the world with his plagues because alduin didn't do his job. Just a thought
Personally I'd like a diplomatic story with if you dig in the right places the appearance of some vampires and even serana showing up for a flashback to skyrim after all she is immortal
High rock is pretty small, I'm betting it'll be at least high rock and hammerfell, maybe even more provinces
All hail lord MISHKA may he forever more be beautiful and divine
Please be in High Rock
Please be in High Rock
Please be in High Rock
I think the consensus is generally that TES VI trailer takes place in HAMMERFELL, not High Rock; although High Rock might still be involved!
One of the things I am most interested in is the redgaurds practice in sword singing if I am getting that right. By basically altering the world itself in certain ways is similar to dragon speach if I remember correctly which does not necessarily use magica but, something else.
Much of the community including myself believes that it could be Hammerfell. It could actually be a 40:60 or 50:50 split in opinions.
You should make a video on Hammerfell because it’s as likely as High Rock.
Next in the plans!
~ Tim
Hello Future Me Sounds great! Can’t wait to see the video. I loved this video on High Rock I found it very informative.
Personally believe they should combine high rock and hammer fell
I think it will be in both Hammerfell and High Rock.Because the landmarks in the trailer are obviously in Hammerfell like Azuras crossing the dessert mountains and the overall terrain.But as I said it could be in both (thats what i am hoping for)
I know that we all have theorized that the canon ending for Skyrim is the Empire winning the war, but consider this.
They like to start us out as a prisoner, it happens over and over in TES. Suppose Skyrim really did when the war, and since both Hammerfell and Highrock are on Skyrim's borders, it wouldn't be that hard to come up with a prisoner starting scenario having to do with that outcome of the civil war.
Say, you are right, and the teaser is actually showing northern Highrock. In that case the game could begin with the character in jail at Jehanna, having been caught crossing the border from Skyrim, which is now considered a hostile nation, because of Highrock's ongoing alliance with the Emprie.
Alternatively the game could start with a similar scenario in Hammerfell, but in that case, it could be done with either outcome of the Skyrim Civil War.
Either way, it seems almost certain that I'll be able to visit either Fang Lair, or the Crypt of Hearts, possibly even both, which would be a nice nostalgia trip. Similar to how it felt visiting Labyrinthian in Skyrim!
steal every cheese weal, become a cheese baron, enlist cheese knights, etc
It is argued that white-golds stone was replaced by the avatar taking its place, but then it was severely damaged in the great war
Hey, I clicked on the thumbnail thinking it was a different TH-camr while procrastinating. If it's you I don't feel I'm wasting my time. Thanks man! Building your own city with the FO4 settlement mechanics, an Assassin's Creed (I, maybe II) like plot where you have to assassinate specific people... There's too much potential, too much to ruin. No way the game will be as cool as you speculated. 22:00 Hey, you know Shad!
You're too kind
All I know is my heart was set on The Black Marsh and it's definitely NOT THERE.
So it can be wherever. Even High Rock, though that would be pretty dumb after just being at Skyrim.
I just noticed in that passage that it says "The dragon will uncoil his hold on the stagnancy of linear time and move as Free Serpent again" Perhaps this "dragon" is the dragon god of time Akatosh, or as the elves call him, Auri-El?
High Rock sounds like a civilized Westeros especially in regards to how the Nobles treat the commoners, I like it.
I really hoped that it would be in Elsweyr but oh well. (Yes I know it’s in hammerfell)
At first you talked about a story that wouldn't be too end-of-the-worldy, but the idea with the Tower and undoing reality seems pretty end-of-the-worldy to me. I really don't know which idea I like the best
oo I actually kind of hope that it doesn't require strategic plans because then you can't just go off murdering people. Or maybe, if it does have strategy, they'll have an option of you just becoming a king and taking over all of High Rock like some sort of ancient dictator. I would like to do that because that would be me lol like, you could assassinate a king (either by doing it yourself or paying an assassin) and then make yourself the king there and it'll be like when you stole stuff from shops in Skyrim, people just send assassins or mercenaries after you in order to try and take your throne. That'd actually be pretty cool, but you can also murder-hobo people.
I would really love to see it in Hammerfell! I think the deserts and sea around it could be a just beautiful and epic place to explore. A place with a bit of a pirate theme and small like Egyptian-style villages, cities carved out in the mountains, huge temples, Oases with palm trees, red broken flags flying in the sandstorms, camel and horse mounts, It would be incredible. It would also be an amazing place for survival mods.
Breton titles in High Rock are actually hereditary, but unlike in our world, you still have to work to keep them, and titles can be and are easily removed when a blood-noble does not prove him/herself through his/her actions
I see that your a member of shadiversity's Discord Server, allways cool to see links like that (=
So I'm retarded because i don't bother putting effort into such things online like most people do?
If "your" so sensitive that things like that get to you then, its you who has a problem.
Oh clearly. My good sir, how awful of me to have offended you.
Stop taking everything so seriously, do you think everybody is out to impress you or something?
I don't know how anybody could deal with a person like you. I guess I must wish you luck with "you're" crusade against the great injustice of incorrect grammar on the internet.
Oh good god I'm getting to you so much that to protect your precious ego you have to make up such things about me so that you can keep thinking "your" better for some reason.
If you were as smart as you think you are you would know not to assume such things. It seems I'm going to have to educate you on the matter. No I'm not "a product of single motherhood" nor is my father in jail for drug use. I especially like how you feel the need to assume that I'm black as if black people are somehow less intelligent and no, I'm not a "nigga" nor do I come from "the hood". "You're" desperate attempts at insults speak vastly more of "you're" character than any grammar mistake ever could.
I would just like to point out, (not sure whether or not it was intentional) that you used Your and You're wrong in all those sentences :^)
Matthew Garret Very much on purpose,
there might be some sort of guild in daggerfall or wayrest ect,,, where if you practice magic in the area of the kingdom you could get a courier with a letter of invitation to "the club of wise men" only to have it be secret mages guild practicing unofficially underground, basically making magic a bit more "dont show levitation and conjuration spells in public and if you do, do not leave witneses" and returning to the morrowind style if you conjure in the town market you get taken down and making it so that magic is ok but there is some animosity towards conjuration because of oblivion crisis and high rocks history of rogue wizards taking over towers
maybe the start could be like m&b warband so you can choose what side you want to join
Imagine this. Epic main screen with theme music ect, click new game, fade to black. You hear the clip-clopping of horse hooves and the turning of wheels on a bumpy cobbled road, the scene fades in to reveal you are in fact on the back of a cart surrounded by soldiers going through a mountain path alongside a few others. You hear two of the others arguing about getting caught crossing the border illegally. 5 minutes later you finally gain control of your character.
thats sounds about right
deamongimli Todd Howard you did it again
deamongimli I can't tell if that's supposed to be a joke or not. I'm leaning toward it being a joke, as it's basically Skyrim 2.0. My idea for the start is inspired somewhat by Kingdom Come, or more specifically the second part of the tutorial.
You start off in a prison cell. Eventually the guards come and let you out. You'll learn that the castle is besieged and that if you and the other prisoners help defending the castle you will be pardoned.
There are several ways to complete the tutorial quest. You can help defend the castle, but there is another prisoner who knows of a secret way out, and he wants to sneak away during the chaos of the battle. You can turn him in, or join him. Both choices have consequences for later.
You can also sneak away before the battle and join the attacking army. There should be other ways to sneak out besides the secret entrance. One way could be stealing a set of guard armour and join a group of volunteers that's attempting to slip past enemy lines and get word to an allied castle.
Roderic Kingfield And that is just TES4 2.0
Lots of speculation when this game can be just Hammerfell instead. My first immediate guess from the trailer is that it will have a lot of navigation or/and piratish stuff merely because of the music. I think to counter Ubisoft's achievements on that. If it was High Rock the ''theme'' would be a repetition of Morrowind's (at some extent) The next thing to remove from the maps won't be gates to oblivion nor dragons but probably underwater monstrosities.
"The community largely agrees..."
Lemme stop you right there fam...
Hammerfell is definitely a majority as well.
If they did that there would be no mystery, and the location would be obvious. Todd himself said that they wanted to put a few things in there that fans can pick apart. That means they purposefully made the landscape extremely ambiguous. It could be High Rock, or Hammerfell, or hell maybe even Elsweyr (very doubtful though). They made it so that you could narrow it down but not have it be too obvious, and the fact that Hammerfell just isn't the Alik'r Desert with Arabian architecture and that it is much more varied does not at all rule it out.
Also, with that logic, wouldn't the trailer show a medieval village with royal music and snowy mountains with beautiful lush forests if it where High Rock for sure? High Rock is more than that but it's the same logic you are using, that Bethesda "supposedly" wanted to make it obvious where it was with the trailer, and the fact that it doesn't show High Rock that obviously either basically proves my point that this trailer is supposed to be ambiguous for any province.
+ExtremeCynic
That climate is how southern Italy looks like.... That's more Hammerfell than High Rock. The music also fits, listen to Redguard's music.
@ExtremeCynic We were looking at the bankorai region which is in High Rock and Hammerfell, It could be either one to get us disputing which one it is so in return the community gains growth as there is an argument to be made to drive more people invested in the release of es6
I Sir Laughsalot I’m sayin
While geographically I'm leaning more towards Hammerfell, High Rock would make for one hell of a setting if they really did fully embrace the idea of the various kingdoms and factions.
The Mages Guild is an imperial insinuation and the Empire dissolved it. Therefore shouldn't be a Mage's guild in High Rock. However there are other intuitions for learning magic present such as the School of Juilanous which was introduced in Daggerfell (the Game). Speaking of Daggerfell, most of High Rock was present in said game. So ESVI being in High Rock would be kinda odd.
An Elder Scrolls game with a Game of Thrones-esc approach in the story sounds way to good to be true!
If Orsinium isn’t in the base game, I hope it’s at least a comprehensive DLC that deals with a recently resettled Orsinium, & asserting it’s sovereignty.
Maybe we could become the Monarch/Chief of Orsinium? Either as an Orc, or Blood-Kin for non-Orc players?
Set the legacy for a proper, lasting, legitimate Orsinium!
I would like to see a lot of celtic influence in high rock personally, maybe even a dragon slaying group since the dragons return? They also really need to make a skyrim 2 in the far far past that actually has the magic skyrim was said to have (they all carry a wind). Some time later after every other province since we all had enough of skyrim for now.
I hope in ES6 there will be Crossbows, that would be an alternative to Long Bows in a way that they would be one-handed rather than two-handed like in Dawnguard DLC for Skyrim (Like Greatsword is an alternative to Long Sword for example!), so that we could hold torch in one hand, while Crossbow in another! That would ease the pain of having to constantly drop the torch every time we wanted to use Bow, since its the only ranged weapon class, that can kill people undetected! Having torch in one hand and crossbow in another would be very helpful in caves and dungeons! Alternative could be giving us an actual usable lantern, that we could stick the belt, so that it would have the hands of our PC unoccupied and thus letting us use any two-handed weapon we want, without having to sacrifice not seeing a damn thing in the dark...There is a perfectly working mod for that for Skyrim on Nexus modding site, considering how Bethesda was rolling with borrowing modders' ideas and officially introducing these ideas in their later games i wouldn't be surprised if they made lantern mod (which is one of the most popular and important mods on Nexus) an actual feature in ES6!
So why would Bethesda limit the game to one province? Not only that, but one of the SMALLEST provinces in Tamriel. They should honestly create High Rock and Hammerfell in one. Even the trailer looks like it takes place between the shores of Hammerfell and High Rock. They could add a sailing mechanic and a whole faction for pirating. There’s just so much potential if they do both provinces.
Maybe they could add new things to difficulty changes in skyrim the dificulty only changed hp and damage of enemies but maybe in TE VI we might see all new mechanics when deciding the dificulty so someone who wants to free Rome will play on adept but someone who wants the extra element of reputation would play on master
I really hope its High Rock, Hammerfell and a newly built Orsinium.
If any case im hoping High Rock. If you look at the history of wales, norman Britain, Ireland and Scotland; the quote "find a hill become a King" describes it to a T.
Its identical to the thousands of warring mini kingdoms.
I would love to see different Breton kingdoms some like the celts, some like Arthurian Britain, some like the welsh and some like the Scots and Irish. Throw in southern France and Mediterranean feel to the High Rock border with Hammerfell and then a sort of pirates of the Caribbean feel going into Arabic feel headed into the stros mkai and west coast/bay regions of hammerfell.
Would love to see different types of orcs warring with the reachmen in the Wrothgar mountains. Then the Empire linked areas along Cyrodil looking and feeling like the Romans that invaded western Europe.
I would love to see alot of different knightly guilds and mage covens that you cant join them as they compete and war with eachother.
I was actually hoping for elsweyr since it would be cool to see the khajit revolt against the aldmeri dominion (again) or the black marsh for all the weirdness and mysteries to explore. But highrock is fine too.
I’m so happy that Ck2 is finally getting its first person mode!
Orsinium would be a cool ES6 DLC, sort of like Solstheim in ES5. Maybe Boethiah comes back to further harass the orcs
Highrock would basically be Skyrim 2 but with more magic.
This is why I felt Oblivion's take on Cyrodiil was so lame and redundant, it basically copy pasted what would have been High Rock instead of the cool Jungle/Mountainous Byzantine Empire vibe it should have been
You'd think because the last two games where set in human provinces that they would set the next one in a elfen or beast folk province
High Rock does have the potential to be a hybrid province. I think they should give the landscape a mystical and otherworldly feel, but have the settlements be medieval European.
The Nerevarine I dont know if you can say bretons are half elves. More like they have some elvish ancestry but are mostly human. Not a lot of elves in high rock to keep having half elf babies.
I would think redguards have 0 elf blood Nords and imperials have something like 5 to 10 percent and bretons have 40 to 50 the only way for them to have any less would be if every 30 yrs a wave of Nord migrants go to highrock which isn't happening
I’m expecting to see a second trailer with a notably different landscape to signify a different province. I’m not saying it’s unlikely that they’ll limit the game to one province, but it would make sense for them to do multiple (if not all) provinces.
PEOPLE ITS GONA BE HAMMERFELL NOT HIGHROCK... THE WHOLE HIGHROCK HYPE IS TO MAKE US THINK AND HOPE FOR HIGHROCK THE BIG SUPRISE IS ITS GOING TO BE HAMMERFELL
I want to know how they tackle how Brettons have Elven blood in them. Not just that they have magic, but they look enough like Elves that the Nords didn't recognize them. Will we have factions that want to return to their roots, Human or Elven? Subtle cultural cues such as decorations or local festivals. In previous games what race you were caused people to react to you in certain ways. With so much infighting already, I wonder how this will play into the game?
Since it’s very unlikely that you will be a Dragonborn in the next game and therefore likely will not have access to shouts, and I hope they keep spells as equitable to hands like in Skyrim it would be interesting if the ability was instead dedicated to potentially giving orders to command either followers, summons, ( or if there is a focus on feudalist) ally soldiers to make them more useful.
Perhaps high hrothgar was a tower as well. The stone was perhaps Alduin or parthanaxx? What do you guys think?
It would be cool though to instantly fail and have to reset if your cover as a Dark Brotherhood assassin is revealed and witnesses not silenced quick enough. I always thought it weird you could just kill anyone in Skyrim if you were rich enough.
Sload as a playable race!
I really think that High Rock would be way too grounded in European fantasy to be cool. I want to see crazy complex lore and scenery. The mammoths of Skyrim were cool, same with Blackreach. Morrowind was perfect in terms of being outlandish. The lore from the southern provinces is also pretty on point. Now I love Daggerfall, and I can't help but feel that a new ES set in the same region would just feel like a huge step back. There's no way that scale, ambition and complex character creation system is going to be matched by a modern game. So why go back to a worse Daggerfall when there's so many other places to see?
My hype just multiplied by 1000, you truly are a lore master.
Joinable Faction idea for a TES game set in High Rock: the Vigilants Of Stendarr. Now now I know they were practically worthless in Skyrim but hear me out, you know how the three main factions (Fighter’s Guild, Mage’s Guild and Thieve’s Guild) are different in each Province? Well that same thing would be with the Vigilants, in Skyrim (the Province other then Cyrodill that got hit the hardest by the Oblivion Crisis) they are borderlining fanatical Monster Hunters but in High Rock (a land that is very political much like Westeros) they are more like Batman/Assassin’s Creed style Vigilantes that go around dealing with corrupt nobles and politicians (people like Tywin and Cersei Lannister who have no regard for innocent life). I think this would be a good joinable faction because they were WAY TOO underutilized in Skyrim plus it adds something that The Elder Scrolls franchise should’ve had to begin with and that is a genuine GOOD GUY GROUP, I’m sick and tired of this “Black/Grey morality” bullshit Bethesda and even members of the community keep pushing for in TES Games (you can’t have Grey morality without having both Black AND White, plus it’s not fair if people like me who actually enjoy playing as good guy characters get screwed over content wise simply because we do not want to be Adolf fucking Hitler).
Whould it be great if mishca demanded for a series of videos about the alt history of middle Earth (shadow of Mordor/war...)
I reckon es6 would be set in all or high rock and the Ilac bay region of hammerfell(as 80% of hammerfell is desert it would be hard to base a game around it) but as other commenters have said, givem the recent size of other BSG games it would make sense to have multiple regions
Hammerfell is not 80% desert, more like 20%.
You can tell it will be set in High Rock just from the music alone, the way it is played with the trumpets, High Rock has the same type or lore vibe with it. Closest thing to actual medieval setting in TES lore is High Rock
Great video, keep doing what you do! CamelWorks did a really good video on this with a solid argument as to why it may be Hammerfell.
Matt G
If the sun is rising or setting in the north
Um... the camera heads southwest. The sun is to the west over the bay
I think that THES VI will be in hamerfell but good video really interesting
Above all else I hope we get some actually interesting and fun GOOD GUY Quests and choices, contrary to popular belief many people actually enjoy Roleplaying as Good Guys (I personally always go the Chaotic Good Vigilante route) but it is not fair to be cut out of like 80 percent of the Game’s content simply because I do not want to be worse then Hitler.
Great video! Would really like to see you do a Hamerfell version of this video as well. And would absolutely love it if you made a 3rd video afterwards What if elder scrolls 6: iliac bay the combination of both provinces would be like for the next game setting.
The only compelling arguments I've heard for setting state that it will be set in Hammerfel. Still haven't heard anything that would convince me this game will be set in High Rock. Check out Camelworks video on why it'll be Hammerfel, he knows his lore.
As mentioned, I'm not so much concerned with whether it's High Rock or Hammerfell. This is just exploring what High Rock *could* be like. That said, Camelwork's note about Azra's crossing is very persuasive evidence. The primary issue is for that to be the southern line of Illiac Bay the sun would have to be shining from the north-east.
~ Tim
I like the theory of it being both. I honestly think the sun thing might have been a mistake on Bethesda's part I guess we wont know for sure for many years =P P.S. you should consider applying to write story and quests for "Beyond Skyrim" Seems like you would be a good fit for the project =)
Craz3t0wn Bethesda wouldn’t make a mistake so critical, and they horns sound like it’d be medieval France. Hopefully it’s both Hammerfell and High Rock
I actually when I first saw the trailer was a bit in doubt. I was thinking it'd either be set in the Summer Isles or in High Rock. Now, High Rock does sound very interesting and I've always thought so. But I was really hoping it would be the Isles instead. It would be nice to see the other side for once. Skyrim was part of the empire, in dire straits and very pro-human. It would be interesting to see a place that's part of the Aldmeri Dominion, which is doing better than it ever has and is very pro-elf.
I'm very skeptical of the idea of a whole shift in the way they do things with these factions and stuff. I think it's more likely it'll be another save the world kind of story and that things like reputation and titles won't be back. It seems to me like over the last few games, specifically Morrowind to Oblivion to Skyrim they've been simplifying the game and cutting down on the complexity. And I see no indication of that trend ending. That being said, I hope they end up surprising me. Because I would love for things like titles and reputation to return and play an important role and I would love to be part of some political intrigue.
For some reason I feel like Orsinium will be DLC... If it's not though, it would be awesome if the city was hidden and nobody knew how to get to it and then you had to find your way there through a quest chain and then the first time you see it sprawled out before you it's a magnificent city in the middle of the mountains, sprawled out over them and the epic music starts to play in the background as you look out over it. I'd love that.
Also, you may want to watch this video... because it's fairly convincing, imo. At least at first glance.
th-cam.com/video/83M7BAJCWEg/w-d-xo.html
I would have really been up for Summerset Isles, personally. My goodness, that would have been awesome. And yes, I agree the AD would have been far more fun to explore. I agree Orsinium would be likely an expansion, but it'd be nice to see Orismer culture get its due (its been woefully underrepresented in previous games). As for Camelworks' - he and Fudgepuppet seem to disagree, and I'm still skeptical about the angle of the sun/coastline idea. But as alluded to in the video, those guys have discussed this well and truly and I'm happy to leave that to them haha. This was just my thought experiment on what it'd be as High Rock.
~ Tim
Yeah, I agree. I'd love to see Orsinium. Yeah, I've been watching some of the videos related to it. I just wanted to bring that one to your attention in case you hadn't seen it because I thought it was fairly convincing (though yes, it does still have some flaws, and it's very easy to read into stuff of course). And you definitely made an interesting video, if it does end up being High Rock I hope your ideas about it end up being correct. As a fellow big Game of Thrones/A Song of Ice & Fire fan, I love me some political intrigue.
Bring the snow elves and Ysgramor back I want to see that battle lol, other then that I’m all for high rock
Make more elder scrolls videos please, I like them
I don't know about high rock I'm getting a kind of Yokudan Crowns pride in those horns.
I don't think this TES game will be named after a region. Only 2 of the 5 have been named after the province that they take place in. It may very well be in High Rock, but I'm counting on an original game title that is tied to the game's main quest line, whatever it may be.
Someone mapped the geography and put it in hammerfell
Thomas Perkins
It's not in hammefell, unless the sun is setting in the north
You'd be right if Hammerfell's coast went perfectly east to west but it doesn't. The camera is pointing SOUTH-EAST along the coast. The sun is behind the camera and to the right in the west, (maybe about 3 or 4 o'clock) casting shadows on the east side of the Corten Mountains in Hammerfell. It makes perfect sense.
+Nicholas Jentzen
Iliac Bay?
Nicholas Jentzen
The sun is in completely he wrong position for illiac bay. And the region isn't this mountains in the right direction for the sun
+The_Drop Bear
Did you miss the Dragontail Mountains?