Lionel Shriver: I Left Britain And Feel GUILTY About It
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- Hello class mates. Welcome to Thinking Class. In this episode, I speak with Lionel Shriver. Lionel is an author of 8 books, including, 'We Need To Talk About Kevin', which won the Orange Prize for Fiction in 2005 and a journalist, with a fortnightly column in The Spectator and a contributor to The Times.
Lionel and I talk about mass immigration to Britain and the subsequent demographic transformation, why populism is thriving even without political representation, the role complacency plays in a country's future, cultural decline and the prospect of renewal, and the fragility of order.
Lionel's honesty serves up heartfelt, no-nonsense episode, which may be refreshing or the opposite, depending on your disposition.
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I left 12 years ago, from being born and raised in central London, because I was tired of being a stranger in my home land. Save Britannia 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
You can't save Britannia from aboad.
Oh good, now your making someone else feel like how you say you felt, now that you've moved in on their turf. Well done.
Why are you watching vids about Britain, pay attention to and contribute to your own country, not ours. You left, we are now none of your business your not English anymore.
where are you now?
@@bevrekyou're!
What Lionel Shriver said about the weekly pro-Palestine demos by Muslims being naked shows of power is very true.
IT’S A WARNING that Civilization is losing out to the Bedouin barbarians demanding conformity with Sharia Law. HEED THE WARNING and fight to regain control, or else free to a redoubt.
Twenty years ago, a member of the Upper House predicted to me that under Blair the official reckoning was that Britain would become a Muslim country within the "next thirty years"! In the Hon. Members private view it would be within the next 20 years and due to accelerated inter-breeding by the middle classes, that had become all the rigour, that would perpetuate into the lower classes doing likewise and the extent would, within a short time diminish the upper classes!!! This is the way that rabid Labour was thinking and by G - d, I think that the Hon. Members predictions are proving about right!!! don't you???
@@maida-vale Nothing's more certain. Muslims double their population every ten years. All you white ladies get your hijabs ready.
No one will ever be held to account for the way we've been sold out.
How is that possible?
It's the way the system is designed.
Every brit needs to listen to this and truly feel past the numbness.
I'm leaving London this year. I have no where else to go, but I have a career I can take abroad. Can't deal with the housing crisis and being a foreigner in my own land anymore.
Intersting discussion. That the UK has changed, and continues to do so, is self-evident. The natural virtues of a cohesive and homogenous society have been progressively undermined by mass immigration and the doctrine of multiculturalism and "diversity."
What is most intolerable, in a supposedly democratic country, is that this should have been enacted against the expressed wish of the British people. And then the political class wonders why it is held in such contempt.
Ignoramuses, and on so many levels.
Doesn't matter which political party is in charge it's the bureaucrats where the real power is centred. If the immigration was slowed so will growth. Nothing is done to slow it because of that reason. Then there's more people to compete for the same resource. Eg, housing.The pie gets smaller and smaller and people are starting to wake up that their slice is a lot less than it used to be. Young people in the society feel ripped off and start to vent their frustration on those they see as having more. Crime, or glueing themselves to a road for a cause that at least seems to mean something.
Lionel, you're not alone. I'm British and infinity stages of leaving UK. I'm sick to death of being a foreigner in my own.country so I'm going to be a foreigner in someone else's.
Where do you plan to go? I've been in Serbia for 10 years. It was a great weight off my mind. It took 3 months to wake up one day and realise that I was no longer self censoring before getting out of bed.
@@benchapple1583 How did you manage that Ben? Interested to know as this is one of the countries I looked at moving to and have been to Belgrade and Novi Sad and liked it very much. My wife is from the Balkans but it's not as nice as Serbia. Would be interested to know more
@@freddiemoses467 I got through a loophole in the law which has since been closed i.e. you could stay for 90 days but then had to 'leave' the country which in reality meant crossing the border for 10 seconds and coming back. Now you can stay (with an EU, British or American passport) for 90 days in 6 months. If you can find a job (I worked as an English language teacher) then you can get a 'viza za boravak' which lasts a year. When you've stayed continuously for 3 years (this has recently changed- it was 5) you can get a 'lična karta' (national and mandatory ID card) which means that you can stay forever. I got mine a couple of months ago.
Otherwise you need to be living as husband and wife with a Serbian national- I know someone doing this but it has to be for real and they will check.
Or become 'preduzetnik' which means self employed. You'll want a solicitor for that. The down side to this approach is the insane tax system which requires that you pay a flat rate of about 300 Euros per month regardless of earnings. If you're comfortable with that then preduzetnik is the way to go. Do that for three years and you're done.
The plus sides of Serbia are immediately obvious. No fat people, no (literally zero) violent crime or theft, no feminism- so total freedom of speech (Serbia was communist, albeit communism light, and that was enough to inoculate them permanently. Thus feminism is completely unwelcome.)
The down sides are: the drivers are psychopaths- you need to be hyper-vigilant crossing the road and work on the assumption that the drivers really are trying to kill you. This is a bigger problem in Belgrade. In Pančevo, where I live, much less so; Serbs are terrible litter bugs- it's a national disgrace; The bureaucracy is a nightmare even without the language barrier. I know 3 people who've gone through the system and all of them, including me, ended up in court charged with a misdemeanour and attracting a fine of 100-300 Euros simply for failing to understand the labyrinthine regulations. And finally the language which of course you'll have to learn. Slavic languages are probably the hardest in the world (Certainly they're always in the top 10 on any random list of hard languages). If you have a Slavic wife then that will help.
If you want to know more then we'd have to get into contact somehow- just say.
Good luck to you- the feeling of utter relief when you no longer have to censor your own thoughts is profound and cannot be explained to someone who hasn't gone through it.
@@benchapple1583 Thank you for the well detailed response. It sounds like it's not straight forward and given my situation, I may be better off trying to get citizenship in the baltic country that my wife is from but I need to learn the language which will be the hardest.
@@freddiemoses467 May I ask which country? If you don't want to say in the comments section then no problem.
Ultimately the British voters have allowed this to happen
You think voting has been effective for the past 15yrs? Look at the brexit vote, the reason they were all shocked is because they'd underestimated the brexit vote and not stuffed enough postal ballots in the system to swing it their way.
I left Scotland fifteen years ago. I love my country and really miss it. However, its not the country it used to be and for better or worse it never will be. Enjoy your life as much as you can.
On the violent threat deliberately exerted by muslim immigrants, during one of those vile pro-Hamas rallies yesterday, police arrested one violent individual. Whereupon the noisy, violent rabble surrounded the police car, essentially keeping officers hostage for several hours, and in the end they released the arrested man again. Oh, how glorious to live in this country of law and order.
Voting will not fix this. We are going to have to fight to get our county back. And I mean FIGHT.
Semi-agree but I can’t help but think a large part of this is a result of arrogance, negligence and narcissism of the “educated”. Academia is actively cancerous to western civilisation at this point.
I left the UK in March 2005. I remember my dad telling me back in 1984 when I was 14 that the UK is finished, my dad died 4 years later, I remembered that advice, and I got the opportunity when I was 34. I moved to Australia, and my life has been so much better, healthier, happier, energy is much cheaper, water and fuel. The wages are higher, the weather is milder, the average temperature in winter is 14 degrees, and the summer is average 28 degrees. I live near the beach, my house is new, spacious, no damp, no overcrowding, crime is much lower, its like I retired at 34 but getting paid a really great salary. I look at the UK nowadays and think back to what my dad said to me back in 1984.
What field of work and area of Australia, may I ask?
@@ribbrascal1065 SA Govt, investigations.
My doughter moved there about 5-6 years ago. Loves it. I've got a mate who went 20 od years ago. There are two words that are swept under every ones rug out there, and I'm sure you know what those words are. Those words are, The Aboriginies.
@@bevrek I'll bet. The White Guilt that suppresses acknowledging an inferior demographic with widespread obvious social problems is the cultural norm across the Anglosphere.
@@bevrek yeah, I think it's a bit more complex than that.
I was born in 1965 and left the UK in 1989, aged 23.
I saw the best of times and now, when I go home to visit, I see the worst of times.
Bill Hicks famously said, "Life is just a ride".
If you don't like it, get a ticket for a different destination.
Meanwhile women's and children's rights are taken away.
We need people to stand up and fight for commen sense
THANK YOU.♥
I LEFT LONDON, 40 YEARS AGO. IT IS UNRECOGNISABLE, NOW.
Where did you go?
@@bevrek NORTH DEVON!!! PEACE!
@@bevrek NORTH DEVON!!
@@user-qd8md4tq1q My mum lives in Exmouth, I know it's not north. While visiting I was on the bus passing through Topsham and I say two women running across the road dressed in black bin liners. They're coming to a town near you. Sorry.
@@benchapple1583 EXETER/EXMOUTH, IS A CITY. THIS IS A TINY, ONE HORSE TOWN. NOTHING FOR THEM HERE!
I left the UK 20 years ago. Never looked back.
I'm outta here as soon as I can afford to do so. I pray things hold together for a little bit longer.
Same and the UK I left doesn't exist anymore in any case.
The rage is real, and we all wish there was a unifier to steer us back to a country we once loved.
I left too, and I am not guilty
bye!
@@Chris-vi9nh YES, BYE-BYE
As one of the people who does give a toss, I'm saying come back Lionel we miss you. Small town/rural England might serve you better. Granted the wine isn't as cheap, but cider from source in Herefordshire is just as agreeable.
I’m British. I left the UK in 1997. The place was, and remains a dump. The trains, health care, M25 never worked in the 1990s and have become worse since. Full of greed, corruption and yobs. Where I live now, I get Free Healthcare ( I get to a GP or Dentist same day and after a consultant referral, get seen in 3 days, public transport costs are 80% less ( and works) , my energy costs per year are 1/15 th of the UK per year. I’d need to be crazy to retire into the UK. No manufacturing exports of note and services will be replaced by AI: owned by the USA. I live near a beach, has a 4 floor gym and pool , inflation is 2% , mortgage rate is 1.75%. I have no debts and can live on £500 per month ( but don’t need to).
I left Britain, best thing I ever did. I was handicapped there by being male, white and intelligent
We need a new political party called Merit
I thought Ian Williams was a lovely young man who conducted the interview well. He was not at all full of himself and was generous with the time he allowed Lionel to express her views on various subjects. I very much enjoyed the interview and almost always agree with Lionel’s wisdom. Well done!
I noticed that myself. Excellent interviewer.
I want to leave the UK now. I thought we would see what was happening and vote to stop it. London is increasingly looking like the future for the rest of us, and that is not something I want for me and my family. Too few people vote and that allows the status quo to continue. Even if they did vote, choice is just an illusion, because the structure has been manipulated to prevent any real change.
I adore this woman.
She’s near humourless.
Never particularly liked London. I retired to Cumbria which is fantastic. There are parts of any country where you’ll feel unsafe, just dont live there. She seems to be going through my thoughts on fossil fuel from a few years ago but I changed my mind when fracking in the US changed it from being a net importer to a net exporter. There’s plenty of oil now it’s just the lunacy of the net zero climate delusionists that preventing it being extracted.
Really good episode - two very intelligent people complementing each other very well!
......er, was that a joke?
The research on economic contribution of immigrants was in Denmark
This should have many more views - Shriver says what I believe the (unfortunately silent) majority are thinking.
I am less than optimistic about where the UK is heading, in a number of respects. And I don't see any remedy.
On a separate note, I can't wait to read 'Mania', but being retired, I'll have to wait until the price drops a little.
The UK needs you, Lionel.
Thanks @M123OCT. Your engagement helps grow the show and the reach of these conversations. Enjoy your retirement.
Come on, the amount of a book discount is negligible in the grand budget
Especially for a book as important as this, from which Ms. Shriver deserves every red cent
Or whatever currency they use in Portugal, idk, I have no interest there, I'm an Italian at heart
You could get it from your library. I am a writer myself, and always advise this. I've been poor, so I understand.
Congratulations, it seems something of a coup to get Lionel Shriver for a full hour on this channel. By the count of subscribers and views, the channel is evidenty just a-borning.
An excellent conversation.
This was fantastic
Lost a lot of respect for Shriver when she came out and said she voted for Biden. She's complicit in the problem.
What problem is that?
I Don't! Leaving the UK was the best move I ever made.
OMG! I am in the process of leaving Australia for Italy. Everything she is saying resonates with me.
Such a shame. But Italy is so completely beautiful and the country needs you!
Good move. Italy is going in the right direction imo.
several years ago (under Trump?) there was a big controversy over immigration, and large protest marches in Dallas. On the first day, the marchers carried large signs in Spanish as well as big Mexican flags. There was a huge backlash, and by the third day of protest marches there were no Mexican flags, and all the signs were in English.
42:30 I have to agree about her view on the UK response to covid and never feeling the same way about the uk again after that. All basic rights, uk traditions, human rights, basic freedoms, completely overruled and any opposition censured, crushed or silenced. The powers to do whatever the state wants, whenever it wants, regardless of inalienable rights have been granted and the precedent set now for any political craziness in the future. Utter stupidty and overreaction that has further helped to destroy the UK economy also.
Well. To be fair, the US Intel Community has been freely sharing with MI5 how to propagandise the cause of Big Sister. Pace Lionel, the great and top intellectual radio host, Dennis Prager, wrote about an epiphany last summer. With the exception of Covid, he has visited Europe for 45 years. And out of those trips, this is the first time he felt freer being in Europe than the US.
Ditto for Canada. I am still angry.
I think Lionel Shriver neatly sums up the reasons why anyone who can should leave the UK! I can't afford the UK's exorbitant NET STUPID Energy Costs, Unaffordable Housing Costs, High Overall Taxes even on modest incomes, and collapsing National Illness Service such as it is (given its ideological commitment to the Pharmaceutical Model) or the UK's political impasse that prevents a resolution to any of these afflictions plus of course mass immigration that simply exacerbates all of these prior problems! Have I missed anything? Can you afford these ills? Once enough people and businesses leave the UK for "economically sunnier shores" elsewhere the UK's tax base that still props up the hideous edifice of CORRUPT BIG GOVERNMENT that's responsible for this whole mess will falter and collapse thankfully taking with it amongst a great many other ills tax payer funded mass immigration! Andrew Bridgen's call for DIRECT DEMOCRACY is a good and commendable one but the road to reach it will I fear be RUINOUS and I cannot afford to be ruined by it! Once the collapse of BIG GOVERNMENT is complete and a new and REFORMED political environment makes investment attractive then both CAPITAL and those with the skill to deploy it profitably will return to the UK for the REBUILDING OF THE ECONOMY! Imho none of these changes are terribly likely to occur without a complete collapse of BIG GOVERNMENT and everything that goes with it!
So sad. Australia is going the same way America has gone.
Canada is worse. Seems the entire Anglo-sphere is not doing well. I do not fully understand why?
The world needs a non political charasmatic visionary who can explain what and why, and warn us that western civilization has about 50 years before it's over @@williamerdman4888
Blimey, she sounds a lot of fun..
Thing is, our problems are global, and complicated - Immigration is a function of complex global forces, not easily fixed, by, for example, " sending back the boats ". Short of imposing a naval blockade on France, which might be difficult, or sinking the rubber boats, which would scar us beyond redemption, as well as giving cause to terrorism - any solution has to include a reevaluation of how, and why we all live on this rusty planet.
I do agree that that our society is not working - including social housing and the NHS - and our economy generally - We do need change.
For instance, " solution " to the rubber-boat economy might involve a trans-national PR and Information campaign - It might be more cost effective than paying off the French police.
Another might be to think about the long term interests of the British, of all colours, who have been here for a long time. Etc.
I hear Shriver just fine, but you could do with a better microphone. Your voice comes across a bit sketchy and intermittent. If you're going to make this kind of content, reasonably decent audio quality is a must -- we're spoiled for choice, you see.
I have so much respect for Britian contributions to the world.... this is a little hard to listen to. But, believable.
Well that was thoroughly depressing .
I think this country will fall over under the weight of its own contradictions economically and socially, things are going to get very bump over the next decade, we could pull out of this tail spin but we haven't got the stomach for what needs to be done so a crash is inevitable and I think anyone not ideologically possessed has accepted this. I want to leave but i cant leave my family.
Russia. The last repository of european civilisation.
Orhodox church
Strong centralised state
Patriotic population
Self sufficient in fuel and food
Serbia would like to object.
Putin regularly speaks of the importance of a multi-ethnic, multi-cultural, and multi-faith Russian Federation, including speaking positively of Islam, and now Moscow has the largest Muslim population of any city in Europe.
@@igottheshaft OTOH, it's not part of the Russian state ideology that Whites/Europeans are evil and the Christianity the Russian state supports is of the traditional type and not the semi-Bolshevized variety that's predominant in the Anglosphere.
Sure yes, pres putin is a theist, he sits in on meetings of the moscow rabbinate and is well loved in muslim chechnya . He respects religeon.
He used to spend satarday morning with the hebrew tanakh taught by his wrestling coach
Thanks. I was hoping to hear a bit about the advantages of Portugal, the pull as well as the push of negatives about the UK (with which I empathise).
So sad to see London slowly turning into a foreign city.
England made the modern world - gave the world / colonies, Law & Order, Railways, modern inventions, great advancements in Science, Medicines, Arts, Civility.
Why are the English NOT fighting hard to win back their Country & Culture?
First they have to have a sense of Patriotism, Don't abandon their cities like London and return back to their roots.
My understanding is Portugal doesn't have welfare or the old age pension. Sub-Saharan Africans are not going to be heading there any time soon.
What an interesting conversation but heartbreaking
Maybe if she hadn’t voted for Brexit she could feel comfortable living there.
If leave but unfortunately l live too close to a pub, a Waitrose, a bookies and a brothel. What to do?
The 'White British' population of London in the last census in 2021 was 36%. Add 3 years and subtract naturalised EU migrants and native Britons will be South of 30%.
Can identify with LS on all these issues. Were I younger I would emigrate but where to? Most of the West faces the same self-created problems. The UK’s position was worsened by Brexit but in other respects it’s just a microcosm of the rest of the formerly civilised world. We desperately need good leaders but our political class is full of moral and intellectual bankrupts.
How about Malaysia?
It's true the outlook for the UK is bleak, but stay and fight, don't run away otherwise things can't change. Without electoral reform, i.e. PR, then the system is set up to prevent change so if you think voting will change anything for the better dream on
Try living in South Africa, where the national hospitals are death traps and private health care is super, but super expensive. Try black outs for up to 8 hours a day despite higher taxes and rates.
I have to say that I have quite the affection for Lionel ... and, having an American missus, hearing a Yank use terms like "faff" always makes me smile. I too am considering (for three years now) running away to Portugal but I don't have Lionel's resources. Plus, to my shame, I don't like the language, and that will not make things easy if I do pull the trigger. My destination of choice was Finland and I was buying a house there when Brexit hit and the chaos basically wrecked my escape plan :(
EDIT: Oh and on the power issue, I'm an electricity T&D SCADA engineer with three decades experience and, yes, the lack of investment in the right areas has been a growing problem. Me and my colleagues have been keeping the wheels on for twenty years now with improving the efficiency and reactivity (electrical pun :)} of the grid but the generation infrastructure is just not good enough.
None of this is happening by chance,its all by design,as an individual all i can say is we have to decide whats best,our interest or the country's? Personally were being gaslighted and robbed financially, and mentally, were being treated with contempt.
I've gone and I don't feel the least bit guilty.
Come and live with me in Perth Lionel
Sautéed dishes for dinner every night and dance nights every weekend
I wish the interviewer would let Lionel speak! 😡
He does. Did you listen to the interview?
@@user-wo5wn2ue4m yes, I heard the whole interview and in my opinion, the host inserts way too much of his own commentary. Better to ask shorter questions and let the guest speak more. I'm sorry if my feedback offends you.
@@aaddy5157 The interviewer steped in when old Lionel started rambleing on in a boring fashion. My criticism of the of the interviewer, is that he did'nt step in more often. It might have helped old Loinel shape up some of his ideas, that I did'nt agree with.
@aaddy5157 - The host seems perfectly fine to me! Lionel had lots of room to express herself.
@@wiseonwords I beg to differ.
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"They're going to be a minority in their own country and... oh well"
Oooof.
I did and I don't.
If you don't like living here in UK, then you are free to move back to your home country
She already did leave, dumb dumb.
I like Lionel Shriver and I agree with her about a lot of things, but her argument about the pro-Palestinian marches is ill-informed and poorly thought-through. These are not Muslim demonstrations, they are anti-war rallies and comprise many racial groups. To characterise them as being about an expression of Muslim power is a very skewed perspective. Likewise, to see "both main parties" as being, "to the left of most people in Britain" is just nutty. Still, she did used to write for the Spectator, a publication which is slightly to the right of Ghengis Khan, so I shouldn't be surprised.
I think if you move anywhere long-term, as she has done to Portugal, then you need to make sure you speak the language of that place, that you adopt it as your society, integrate into it and play a full part in it. I hope she does all these things in Portugal: they pretty much preclude her from also feeling that she is an expert with the right to commentate on a society which was not the place she was born and brought up in, and where she no longer lives. Become an expert on Portugal now, and comment on that society.
Portugal? Why not Argentina?
@Orson2u - Portugal is much safer, much wealthier, much more politically stable, and it's in Western Europe. The answer's quite obvious, don't you think?
How to wreck a country in sixty years.
Net zero is a luxury belief for rich people, they don't have to decide "Heat or eat?" and they won't no matter how high Green taxes go Fuel and food takes only a small, trivial, part of their income. I actually get a bit exasperated when people rail at the hypocrisy of a Gates or a Gore over their private jet usage, these folks can advocate for crippling fuel taxes precisely because the costs of fuel are meaninglesly small to multimillionaires. Energy usage only increases arithmetically as wealth increases geometrically. Basically you can't spend more than 24 hours a day in your Gulfstream, no matter how many billions you have. Gore might pay extra to source "green" electricity and "green" jet fuel but 500million in the bank it makes literally no difference to his lifestyle. But forcing the rest of us to do the same will drive us to real penury.
Sorry to correct Lionel but there is only 0.04 of one percent of our atmosphere is co2.
Just correcting your wording. It's 0.04% of the whole 100% not of 1%. And of this 0.04%, only 2% is estimated as of human origin of course. Crazy thinking.
People are not good or bad except on their own terms. Those terms set by self interest and opportunities & perceived risks. A law based society is good for all as provides stable framework to fibd a niche. But laws needs to be enforced, and seen to be enforced, or ppl can lose trust or see opportunity by selectively breaking cherry picked laws while depending on society adhering to other laws. The current stresses in society seem mostly caused by non enforcement or even selective enforcement of existing laws. 0oliticuans ever eager to create unnecessary new laws at any public awareness of some misbehaviour
She's great. I love her. Crisp and clear. He rambles incoherently a bit too much.
more has to be stressed on the origin of the immigrants. ademographer might conclude the success of texas and floridahas been raised by hispanic immigrants.
#FreeBritain
dont feel guilty Lionel , we all would if we could
Are we really going to take lessons in patriotism from an American living in Portugal?
What a daft comment: she wasn’t giving a lecture, she was reflecting on her own juvenile lack of patriotism and how she had evolved beyond that. And being patriotic doesn’t mean you have to live there.
@@johnricercato740 Daft? Maybe so. She doesn’t seem to have much skin in the game though.
Is portugal much better?
Yes
Yes
Yes for the time being but changing very rapidly .The rise of chega indicates that those changes are not popular among growing numbers of the Portuguese people .
Population decline a big issue?
Too much melancholy here. Britain needs a Churchill or Narendra Modi who believes in the country, removes the cobwebs, and acts boldly. Britain still has great human resources and institutions. It has a important role to play in the story of mankind, especially in this time of stagnation and fear. Recognize that not all immigrants are useless. But cut back immigration. Convert NHS to national health insurance a la Germany or Switzerland. Cut the overly generous welfare benefits.
Churchill was scum. He literally burned down European civilization. What exactly did England win?
Old before their time bores
I like Lionel but complaining that living in London doesn’t feel like England is because it’s one of a few global hubs. Places like Dubai are 70%+ immigrant and New York, Paris etc are similar to London. It’s no outlier and just means it’s a popular and successful globally relevant city.
Is it a good thing that a city is popular and successful globally at the expense of the native population?
Define "successful" and tell us who is enjoying this success. Also define "globally relevant," if it actually has a meaning and is not just word salad. Tokyo and Shanghai manage to be important and economically vibrant cities despite having very small immigrant populations. The current "Western" way of doing things is not necessarily the only model available,
You don't fix problems by denying them.
😢@@ISee-xe5ow
How can she doubt the existence of climate change when the weather has been doing EXACTLY what 99% of climate scientists predicted would happen as per climate change. 🤦
I left Britain in '88 as I no longer had confidence in my country or faith and confidence in the Police but felt guilty for having "abandoned a country that MUST??? really need me. I lived as a welcome foreigner in a foreign land which I loved and where I was loved by those around me. I returned here 18 months ago thinking that I should show support for England. I found that "my England" no longer exists: a dirty, lazy accusatory, placatory society of fat uncaring people whose minds are obsessed by the little electronic boxes that they all seem to carry outstretched in front of their faces to the exclusion of all other awareness!!! An HORRIBLE homecoming! I wish I never had but at my age it's too late to back-peddle!!!
So you left during the coolest period in Britain's modern history and came back during the worst? Good job, Einstein
@@bryankinney1 If you have to use that ghastly little Americanism "C/Kool"I guess your heyday was indeed the 1980s? Actually, the 1960s was the "coolest" because there had NEVER been a youth social generation before! It was the first and so exciting and free!! The 1970s & '80s were the start of real police brutality in the aftermath of Berkeley Square and then, the birth of aimless street violence and the awful generation of cocoon parents who have proceeded to drag up their spawnlings naive to the realities of discovering the world about them for themselves. My return to this country has been a shock and there is no real companionship in this ghastly accusatory, placatory and judgemental society. Sick to the core!!! Twisted, perverse and controlled by corporate mores and self invested politicos.
I got out in 2013. I recently went to Glasgow as I had no choice. Your remarks about the people sum up what I saw. I'm staying put in Serbia.
Why on earth did you go back? That's not intended to be a nasty question.
@@benchapple1583 No exception taken. I lost my partner, I am 75 now and my home in Fr. is/was a national monument. If resident in France and I snuff, then the tax rate on all bequests save the first 1000 euros of estate would be subject to tax at 60% no matter where in the word the assets or beneficiary!!! Here, I can leave what I want to whoever I choose with no tax obligation and without scrutiny. I can exclude family but in Fr. it is almost impossible, even for ex-pats!
@@maida-vale Thanks for the response and good luck.
Your memories will come back in time but as for pain? There is none. All the self abuse was without the poison of social media and games: porn? One did the real thing! Excesses of high speed rushing around doing dare-devil things fit to break bones was quenched with a timely "mandy". At the end of the day Keefikins and I are still here and functioning! Good luck!!!