Behind The Servants: Explaining The Pseudo-Servants (Part 1)

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  • @argonaut640
    @argonaut640 2 ปีที่แล้ว +262

    Jaguar Warrior being closer to a deity than five stars can only mean one thing:
    Jokes are, in fact, the deepest lore.

    • @GarkKahn
      @GarkKahn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Indeed they are

    • @anadaere6861
      @anadaere6861 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      IIRC, she says "God/dess of Babylonia" as one of her catchphrases
      And that, canonically, Jaguar man weakens her Luck
      And after part 1, Taiga has successfully saved the world 4 times
      Taiga is a beast

    • @YukitoOnline
      @YukitoOnline 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Go back to the VN and get a Bad Ending.
      You'll get thrown into the Taiga Dojo.
      Where Taiga & Illya will talk & joke about your bad decisions that lead to the Bad Ending.
      Fate has a lot of Bad Endings.
      So yeah, you'll go to the Taiga Dojo a lot if you're not careful with your decisions.

  • @j_Snow
    @j_Snow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    In Taiga bond level 5 she quotes Tezcatlipoca saying that "Master, we're best pals now! I dub thee Jaguar Pal, no, Tetzcatlipocapal!"
    Intimating that the deity that possessed her is really Tezcatlipoca

    • @dracofay552
      @dracofay552 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Personal head cannon: Tetz sent Jaguar just to annoy Qutz

  • @Cyrus21100
    @Cyrus21100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +226

    I still think Grand Berserker should be a Taiga face, Tezcatlipoca. Just for the sheer WTF from the player base.

    • @klidge
      @klidge  2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      I want that so badly, but that means they have to make Lostbelt 7 at least partially a gag thing, and from my experience they prefer to keep their big bads just that. That said, 5 star Zerker Taiga would be amazing

    • @anadaere6861
      @anadaere6861 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@klidge Tez as a Taiga face but instead of Tez using a human to weaken himself to be summonable, its him using the luckiest being to guarantee his survival

    • @asteriskonline3494
      @asteriskonline3494 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@anadaere6861 luck and guaranteed are 2 words I never thought would be said in the same sentence. But somehow it makes sense for Taiga😂

    • @boomboxzer0914
      @boomboxzer0914 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      This aged like fine milk

  • @NoOne-Belongs
    @NoOne-Belongs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    Somethings to note are:
    Quetz is said to use a human vessel that they used during the age of God since the Aztec gods were said to possess humans (in fate). This is why quetz had goddess core EX iirc because she is basically how she was during the age of Gods.
    Also something I find funny is that the reason kama chose sakura (or at least the dark side of her) was literally to spite parvati. Something along the lines the good side was already being used by parvati so she only finds it fitting to manifest in dark sakura specifically. I love this level of pettiness.

    • @lunerblade13
      @lunerblade13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It’s like quetz has a custom made vessel tailor made for her while other goddesses have to find compatibility but not exact vessels that don’t perfect demonstrate their figures.

    • @garreonlefay6703
      @garreonlefay6703 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I mean, if all the gods I gave my authorities to pressured me into shooting a love arrow to shiva, so he would do his Husband Duties to Parvati, said idea being Parvati's......only for Shiva to burn me to a crisp....yeah I would be feeling petty too

  • @LoliLover36669
    @LoliLover36669 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The fact that Jaguar warrior is a Lancer servant that has a very high luck stat is already breaking rules

  • @PlasmaV3
    @PlasmaV3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Pseudo servants are literally the fgo dev teams equivalent of an infinite money glitch

    • @klidge
      @klidge  2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Bingo

    • @changsiah2
      @changsiah2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I mean to they were a thing since the Fate Stay Night but yes as well as able to recycle character designs

  • @Retired.Hero.
    @Retired.Hero. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    >Worst of the three main heroines
    I trusted you, you son of a bitch. Let's go /all np5 & grailed Sakurafaces/ we don't need to listen to this bozo anymore.
    [Walks away clutching all my Sakura merch]

  • @dmitrygolubev9398
    @dmitrygolubev9398 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Fragarach's working principle is described by it's chant in Hollow Ataraxia: "Answerer: that which comes later cuts first". Essentially, if an enemy were to use an ultimate move that was sure to kill her, Fragarach rewrites the timeline so that its retaliation happens first. The opponents attack has to be an ultimate move otherwise the retaliation isn't strong enough to kill them, but if it is their NP, then it would surely kill them before they end up using it, preventing them from attacking alltogether (unless the attack in its principle doesn't care about cause and effect, like Gae Bolg).
    Verg Avesta, on the other hand, affects an enemy based on how much damage Angra had withstood, and requires him to survive it to be able to retaliate. That's how they (Bazett + Angra) won against Saber in one of the loops.

    • @thegamerfe8751
      @thegamerfe8751 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      People say Gilgamesh has a lot of bullshit going on with him yet no one thinks for a second how Fragarach is literally the bullshittiest thing in Fate.

  • @Mars-zv4ky
    @Mars-zv4ky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I kinda forgot sieg could be considered a demi servant. The more you know.
    Also the fact you just slap *spoilers* when mentioning odin gave me a slight chuckle.

  • @aredjayc2858
    @aredjayc2858 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    23:41 She's the only one that Shirou abandoned his ideals for
    Therefore she's the only one Shirou cared more for than his own dream
    Therefore he loved the most of any of the 3
    QED

    • @vocaloidpartier
      @vocaloidpartier 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Sakura haters have to cope

    • @favim8240
      @favim8240 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Sakura fans try not to start an argument challenge Impossible*

    • @thegamerfe8751
      @thegamerfe8751 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Multiple timelines: Ima ruin this man's whole career.

    • @aredjayc2858
      @aredjayc2858 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@favim8240 I didn't start it

    • @grandpagohan1
      @grandpagohan1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Eh. Maybe. I just find Rin the more fun option. Although Saber does lead to them reuniting in Avalon, so that's some powerful love right there. Or was that just a fanfic I read? Fates so confusing some times that fanfiction just bleeds into the actual lore and I don't even question it anymore.

  • @ren_suzugamori1427
    @ren_suzugamori1427 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Astraea is my favorite because she's my first Ruler Class Servant I have ever summoned. Simple as that.

    • @yusho4139
      @yusho4139 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love to have her at NP3 , she hits like truck :)

    • @keiken8263
      @keiken8263 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      As someone who was spooked by her on the Valentine Jeanne banner, I can relate and yeah, she has very beeg looping potential allowing me to solo some bosses with her.

    • @Mystic_Moon28
      @Mystic_Moon28 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      same.

    • @faylinnmystiquerose2224
      @faylinnmystiquerose2224 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The first Ruler Servant I was able to summon was Sherlock Holmes, it was a spook and I have no idea how he qualifies as a ruler, but anyway, I later got Jeanne and almost maxed her level, while Holmes is still sitting at level 1... ^^;

    • @ren_suzugamori1427
      @ren_suzugamori1427 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@faylinnmystiquerose2224 can I say I wasn't expecting my ruler either? I was aiming for 5 Star Saber, Caster, Rider, or Assassin. Now that I got a 4 Star Ruler, 5 Star Ruler is now on my hit list.

  • @hmmmooops
    @hmmmooops 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I really don't know anything about fgo lore, but If I understand this correctly, Jaguar isn't really a pseudo-servant, but just Taiga getting possessed by the jaguar spirit the same way it always possessed people. This might technically make her a pseudo-servant. but it's just how the Divinity operated anyway, which would explain why her divinity isn't lowered.

    • @partyrock4144
      @partyrock4144 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well we meet jaguar ~10000 years before taiga is even born in ancient Babylon same with ishtar. But even then it’s arguable that the pseudo servants we meet in game aren’t technically servants until we summon them to Chaldea. From that same version of Babylon quetzequotal was possessing a living girl from that era making her an existence closer to a Demi god rather then a servant. The big question is how the hell is taiga in ancient Babylon when the world is gonna end in a week?

    • @unrankedchevron742
      @unrankedchevron742 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Taiga is a pseudo of Tezcatlipoca in his nagual form.

    • @notme8652
      @notme8652 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@partyrock4144 Simple,Taiga has been cloning herself for centuries.

    • @tjossai9302
      @tjossai9302 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@notme8652 that's mildly horrifying

    • @notaryrotary19
      @notaryrotary19 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@notme8652 .

  • @isaaclu6415
    @isaaclu6415 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I would say the Kama=Mara thing is more of a fate retcon as Kama is better seen as don't exist in Buddhism (the relationship between Hinduism and Buddhism is a really complicated topic), but I guess it's not the most ridiculous retcon fate have made.

    • @lenleon3699
      @lenleon3699 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I do not think that is the right meaning of retcon. I would call it more of how Fate adapted the two divinities in Fate’s universe. It’s like Artemis and Orion. There are dozens of stories about the two, but Fate chooses a few, merges them, and bam: we get Artemis madly in love.

    • @aesterichwerlad3939
      @aesterichwerlad3939 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dont you know in the past south east sea hinduism and budhism mix together?

  • @lunerblade13
    @lunerblade13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    2:21 I think you meant Siegfried not Fran. All Fran did was jumpstart his stabbed body with her electricity.

    • @RevenantWryblight
      @RevenantWryblight 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      In the case of Seig one of his attacks is releasing the same electricity that Fran has but a majority of his saint graph is that of Siegfried

    • @klidge
      @klidge  2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yes and No. He is listed as harboring both of them within him

  • @zferolie
    @zferolie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Taiga truely is best original fate girl and its a crime she still doesnt have a route. I do love everything about her in this game and i hope one day we get to see her shine some more, hopefully in lost belt 7.
    And i agree taiga and cat together would be amazing

  • @johnmattson8280
    @johnmattson8280 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I thought Kama was less full Pseudo-Servant and more 'I'm copying your form, Par. Just to piss you off.' as the reason for the look.

    • @ozzboom9907
      @ozzboom9907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s that and how she relates to Sakura. So, yeah. It’s basically both.

    • @desmondmalone438
      @desmondmalone438 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah she basically used the Dark Sakura within her as a vessel

    • @EclipsedTwilight
      @EclipsedTwilight 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Basically, Parvati used Sakura as a vessel first, but only synced with Sakura's good side. Kama followed afterward and linked up to the discarded bad side of Sakura. Spiting Parvati was much of the reason to pick Sakura in particular.

  • @Vithor.G16
    @Vithor.G16 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video as always!
    Waiting for the next part!

  • @cobbil
    @cobbil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I WILL fight you about Sakura. But I also have a massive soft spot for tragic characters, and its hard to find someone more tragic than Sakura.
    That being said, good video. Enjoy these run downs.

    • @anadaere6861
      @anadaere6861 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      She's the worst of the three
      Only because Rin and Saber are stupidly good
      Overall, all three are pretty close, though I'm a saber fan all the way

    • @thirdplanet4471
      @thirdplanet4471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@anadaere6861 Looking back I realize how little screen time Sakura got in fate and ubw routes and only in heavens feel she get to shine whilst Saber and Rin play important roles in all three

    • @anadaere6861
      @anadaere6861 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@thirdplanet4471 Saber and Rin are probably designed and written in a way that they are integral to the story, like you can write just about any route and you'll need atleast one of the two
      Sakura isn't like that
      She's a hidden heroine (which is bizzare considering she's practically the first female char we'll meet with Shirou's perspective)

    • @thirdplanet4471
      @thirdplanet4471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@anadaere6861 l can see that but her not appearing seems to have been a huge contribution to why peoole hate her plus the shadow thing. I atleast wish we could have seen Sakura's thoughts on Rider's death in either Ubw or fate especially since she performed that summoning and was chosen as a master and what did she think about Shinji's attvak on the school? Though she quit to avoid fighting and hurting Shirou sadly, Shinji would use Rider to fight against Shirou. In addition, I can't help wonder if Sakura could have taken Rin's place as Shirou's mentor in regards to magic? And have a Sakura vs Rin scenario (I know hf did it but I kinda want more ). Also, I would love an alternate timeline where Sakura, Rin, Shirou and their respective servants team up during the grail war. I guess I jist want Sakira to have more to do because though hf deals woth her at times she seems way too passive and I know she is like that cause of her past but there have been times when she bites back so to speak like when Rin tried to kick her out but she refused to go.

  • @mrtitans9p598
    @mrtitans9p598 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Having little to no info on any of this and not play fgo but like the idea of the series itself I love this video. When you stream next prepare for things to be thrown at you.

  • @rokkabrave
    @rokkabrave 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Klidge: Starts dissing Sakura
    Me: So you've chosen... D E A T H !

    • @klidge
      @klidge  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I would rather die standing than live kneeling

  • @Moon1tan
    @Moon1tan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I really hope to see more pseudo servants in other fate works besides fgo (cuz let's be real in fgo its purely used to make money off of existing loved characters) because it has alot of potential for cool ideas and character moments in a story
    In apocrypha it was shown that Jeanne couldn't go into spirit form, hence greatly limiting her mobility
    And also the potential for them to have unique abilities from just merging the spirit's skills with the hosts' own skills
    There's also the idea of muscle memory of the host influencing the spirit's movements if they take over a martial artist like bazette
    Also would make a holy grail war plot far more interesting if implemented (like for example a master decides to use a relative or themselves as a host to summon a divine spirit to be a servant to gain more advantage + use command seals on themselves etc)

    • @anadaere6861
      @anadaere6861 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Would be dope if we get a 0 star Ruler Ahura Mazda cosplaying as Shirou, because said nameless boy is a fan of the one who defeated Angra Mainyuu (Granted its not the god one but hey)

  • @ariannegoble4108
    @ariannegoble4108 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This video must have blessed me with good luck or something, because I pulled Ereshkigal on my first summon ticket. Thanks man!

  • @SmashB123
    @SmashB123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Huh, I always thought that Eresh was using the body of Rin from the FATE/EXTRA Series (Hence the blonde hair) and Ishtar used the body of Rin from the FATE/Stay Night series, hence bypassing the rule of 2 servants being in same vessel, at least when it came to summoning them from the throne rather than in the Babylon singularity.

    • @yeet9891
      @yeet9891 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait, I'm playing through fate/extra right now, but is rin really has blond hair ( maybe I didn't it saw because I choose Rani path's)

    • @suikas5882
      @suikas5882 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@yeet9891 Her MoonCell Avatar has black hair, but her real life self has blond, you see It in her ending

    • @yeet9891
      @yeet9891 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@suikas5882 Ok, thanks for the explanation ^_^

  • @xDreww
    @xDreww ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome enjoyable video! I randomly wanted more info about pseudo servants so thank you lol
    Also.....I would love to finally be able to see a video of someone explaining the void..the concept of zero, and musashi and her reasoning and explaining the process and meaning to what happened at the ending of 5.2. The concept is so confusing and you seem like you can explain just right lol

  • @RexellentRed
    @RexellentRed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    23:42 ALRIGHT BRO LETS FIGHT YOU AINT GETTING AWAY WITH THIS ONE

    • @klidge
      @klidge  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rin is better. I rest my case.

    • @TheColorman
      @TheColorman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@klidge but Saber? Really?

    • @anielx8964
      @anielx8964 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@klidge What Sakura being worse out of the three on? On waifu-ability or a narrative standpoint? Either way, I agree.

    • @klidge
      @klidge  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheColorman Rin thicc and cute. Saber isn't even the best saber face. That's the Okitas

    • @Jokerke12
      @Jokerke12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@klidge But Sakura is thicker and cuter.

  • @Treasure_hunter_21
    @Treasure_hunter_21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing video goatman.)

  • @no.notfromRDR
    @no.notfromRDR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I personally think zhuge Liang decided to be a pseudo servant only because he knows he's a ashhole and waver fills this gap
    Unpopular opinion: zhuge Liang is the true villain of the three kingdoms

    • @evanolsen6925
      @evanolsen6925 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Heard worse theories, but I personally think Cao Cap’s grab for power played a larger role than Liang. If we go by in game personalities then Mr. “die for me” was most likely the main villain.

    • @anadaere6861
      @anadaere6861 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My headcanon was that he was just lazy
      He knows that Zhuge and Zhuge+ Waver is the same so why not let Waver do everything
      On Sima Yi, it's just Sima wanting to boss around Zhuge albeit indirectly

  • @Akario3
    @Akario3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    22:30 YES PLEASE! Tamacat interacting with other whacky servants is what I live for. Tamacat in next GudaGuda? Eeeeeh?

  • @julianskilton200
    @julianskilton200 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jaguar is like 95% Taiga, not an even split. Canonically, Taiga basically holds the reins while Tezaliapoca has to actively hold her back from killing people.
    Also, Quetz isn’t a pseudo servant, as Quetz true form is super bacteria that can weaponize living bodies, humans being the best host. So when Quetz is summoned, she is summoned with her strongest body from the age of gods.

  • @desmondmalone438
    @desmondmalone438 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    10:53 same for how Muramasa is connected to Shirou Emiya

    • @Zero-fx8pc
      @Zero-fx8pc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bazzet connection is confirmed but Muramasa is just speculation

    • @thegamerfe8751
      @thegamerfe8751 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Zero-fx8pc no, Muramasa himself said that his vessel is probably his descendant in Shimousa.

    • @Zero-fx8pc
      @Zero-fx8pc 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thegamerfe8751 Muramasa doesn’t confirm that Shirou is his descendent, he says he could be a descendent or related to someone from the Muramasa school.
      Honestly I like the descendent theory more.

  • @BetaJackMaxis
    @BetaJackMaxis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I thought Ishtar was summoned using Stay Night Rin and Ereshkigal was summoned using EXTRA Rin.
    Basically one of them is from an alternate universe.

  • @zecond-js1yc
    @zecond-js1yc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At this point I have given up on your up coming video which is low rarity servants. But nice video, well done

  • @arks_knights
    @arks_knights ปีที่แล้ว

    24:50 sakura has the origin of the imaginary numbers which is usually a quick buff in fgo

  • @gabrielsanandres6165
    @gabrielsanandres6165 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Other divine servants (besides Quetz): Divine noble phantasm attack
    Astraea: *GERMAN SUPLEX*

  • @desmondmalone438
    @desmondmalone438 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey just a thought if master Artoria is a thing then Artoria can be an alter ego or Pseudo servant

  • @JakeMatthews-OnLo
    @JakeMatthews-OnLo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    18:15 Oh god all the Ritsuka Rin mom and son headcanons are coming back to me, he was a good father Gustavo.

  • @thejudge1728
    @thejudge1728 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Space Ishtar _is_ actually a Pseudo-Servant, somehow, per Space Wars II text. Don't ask me how, I don't fucking know.

    • @namoma4922
      @namoma4922 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Because servantverse makes its own rules that's why

    • @klidge
      @klidge  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If someones got an explanation for that then please enlighten me. As far as I can tell, she isn't listed as one, but it's all nonsense anyway

  • @jarosawerdanowski4295
    @jarosawerdanowski4295 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Would you make a video about explaining passive skill Riding. Many servant that aren't riders have it and level of that skill on some of them is kinda confusing.

    • @klidge
      @klidge  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I plan on doing a video explaining some of the common skills and I’ll bring it up when that video gets made. Long story short it has to do with a servant having piloted/ridden something significant in their legends (horse, ship, medb, elephants) but I’ll go more into it in the future!

  • @JadedWarlock
    @JadedWarlock 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    MFW Jaguar Man is the true god in Chaldea: Nani?

  • @madambutterfly1997
    @madambutterfly1997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I cannot forgive that neon genesis evangelion joke

  • @GarkKahn
    @GarkKahn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another idea for explanations
    How does the info granted to servants works during the wars?
    For example napoleon may know about julius caesar but how could lancelot know about billy the kid? And other stuff like the place where they are and so

    • @benduford3746
      @benduford3746 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is mainly why they go by Class names instead and why the Noble Phantasms are secret weapons but it’s still an interesting idea

  • @mikoajrog1780
    @mikoajrog1780 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sakura is best girl, FIGHT ME!

  • @desmondmalone438
    @desmondmalone438 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    18:07 yeah both Rin’s were able to give those sister goddess some humanity

  • @izzymosley1970
    @izzymosley1970 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fate sure loves to do crazy things with servants fusing them with humans fusing multiple spirits inhabiting the same servant elder gods empowering servants with all this I can't possibly think of what fate is going to do next with the next classification of servant

  • @desmondmalone438
    @desmondmalone438 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    24:12 yeah being a troublemaker can get people attention I like that but pull and bad end moves is a no no(that goes for any of the other Sakura)

  • @partyrock4144
    @partyrock4144 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it ever explained where the bodies come from? I imagine most of them come from singularity F as that’s the only one recent enough for those people to exist and anything from there would be temporally redundant

    • @klidge
      @klidge  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It varies from case to case. I will get more into it in part 2

  • @HelenaSan425
    @HelenaSan425 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sieg my boy and happy Valentine's day everyone!

  • @yellowdeceiver4818
    @yellowdeceiver4818 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is Ishtar's personality that similar to rin? In fate extra wasn't Ishtar said to be more sadistic and stuff

    • @klidge
      @klidge  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are fairly close in the needy and hard to deal with department. Ishtar is naturally more sadistic, but the Rin aspect mellows this out a bit when they merge

    • @tjossai9302
      @tjossai9302 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It actually isn't. In the strange fake light novels they summoned Ishtar into a homonculus. And it made it clear that every other Ishtar that used rin as a medium had Rin affect their psyche A LOT.

  • @TheGlactic
    @TheGlactic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your the GOAT. Your also a cool dude.

  • @barrettturner9443
    @barrettturner9443 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you think that FGO would do another psuedo servant based off of Taiga? Also if so who would it be?

    • @benduford3746
      @benduford3746 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmmm… there are two feline Egyptian goddesses that would work, Sekhmet the warrior goddess and goddess of healing with a lioness head, or Bastet a cat goddess, my money is on Sekhmet

  • @chalo3427
    @chalo3427 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait so does that mean that in general in the Fate universe the actual "history" (doesn't have to be true or not) is more important than the actual reality because if Ishtar is the deity of "Venus" that would mean she would have to be stronger than the "Ultimate One" that is Venus or is it just that part of her "recorded history" in the human world and it doesn't take into account all the other lore stuff... I'm confused sorry I'm new to Fate lore I hope my question makes sense since I am trying to figure it out as the lore is very fun and your videos are awesome!

  • @saviorlegend
    @saviorlegend 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I thought Eresh was using body of Rin from Extra-vers. Not the Rin that we know but the Rin with blond hair.

    • @EclipsedTwilight
      @EclipsedTwilight 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope. Ereshkigal and Ishtar divided up Rin's being between each other. Ishtar took the body and Rin's more 'mage duty-bound' aspects, while Ereshkigal took Rin's soul and her more kindly aspects.
      Eresh's blonde hair seems to be innate to Ereshkigal, kinda like how Astraea has blue hair bleeding in patially over Luvia's blonde hair.

    • @thegamerfe8751
      @thegamerfe8751 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EclipsedTwilight Eh, that's just speculation from your part cause literally nothing says it in any FGO material.

  • @unrankedchevron742
    @unrankedchevron742 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought a nagual was similar to a skinwalker, a shape shifting warrior mage. And that Jaguar Warrior was Tezcatlipoca's nagual form. And she's weaker and kind of weird because Tezcatlipoca and Quetzalcoatl are said to be opposites, where one is strong the other must be the weaker.

  • @harrya9458
    @harrya9458 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This should be fun

  • @desmondmalone438
    @desmondmalone438 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    15:14 life is a *ENDLESS BATTLE*

  • @UndeadEggmiester
    @UndeadEggmiester 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ahh yes time to cover fan service units. I kinda feel like in Ganesha part you should have listed on that's why jinko is overweight in fgo because of ganesja's influence over her. Sweet perfect taiga a character that not only I love but is a character that I grailed but never use just because I have better single target lancers.

    • @klidge
      @klidge  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I should have mentioned it, but its also indicated that its a biproduct from NEET lifestyle choices. I love her regardless

    • @EclipsedTwilight
      @EclipsedTwilight 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jinako was already overweight. She weighs the exact same in Fate/Extra as she does merged with Ganesha in FGO. The art in FGO just puts more emphasis on her belly.

  • @TheKreve
    @TheKreve 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Guga Lily.
    Amazing.

  • @desmondmalone438
    @desmondmalone438 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you think about Jeanne is basically a demi or Pseudo servant In herself

  • @_vnfr
    @_vnfr ปีที่แล้ว

    i assume sakura is quick because rin is buster and shirou is art/buster unless im missing something in which case ignore above

  • @desmondmalone438
    @desmondmalone438 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:17 and also summoned in Kobayashi-san’s Dragon Maid(literally)lol

  • @alecw5432
    @alecw5432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's one thing I'd like someone more fate versed than me to explain-- what IS the moon cancer class?

    • @unrankedchevron742
      @unrankedchevron742 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's specific to Fate/Extra. It's an AI that poses a threat to the mooncell. Basically a living computer virus. Jinako seems to have somehow been taken through the mooncell to mainfest as Ganesha, so that's probably why she's one. I don't know about Summer Kiara though.

    • @EclipsedTwilight
      @EclipsedTwilight 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@unrankedchevron742 It seems that BB is involved with why Ganesha is a Moon Cancer... though the time Jinako survived the Moon Cell's purging firewall by being equipped with Karna's armour NP might have helped matters (though that's mostly my guess on that part).
      Kiara gets to be a Moon Cancer because she absorbed BB back in Fate/Extra CCC (as well as the Sakura Five series of Alter Egos).

  • @rudcol8164
    @rudcol8164 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I get bazzet I'm keeping her in her third ascncion

  • @A_itsar
    @A_itsar ปีที่แล้ว

    Taiga : exist
    Jaguarman: close enough

  • @tenkovito
    @tenkovito 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Taiga is fused with King from Tekken

  • @xenoemblem7
    @xenoemblem7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "Worst of the three main heroines"
    Technically true. Rin never gets assaulted (as far as I know) and Artoria technically gets assaulted by her own sister, Morgan.

  • @RevenantWryblight
    @RevenantWryblight 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I doubt Summer Kama is going to be talked about since there isn’t a change in Kama/Mara’s personality

    • @JoshuaB1194
      @JoshuaB1194 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      from what I gathered the difference between OG Kama and Summer Kama is that Mara is a bit more active while choosing to be more 'assertive ' in his 'Seduction' ( I put both in quotation marks because it makes her weak to genuine acks of affection in return)

  • @theoneandonlyme9731
    @theoneandonlyme9731 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still really want to see Nergal as a pseudo-servant in the body of Tokiomi.

  • @SirFooplesTheThird
    @SirFooplesTheThird ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait. Isn't Erishkigal's name pronounced Er-Ish-Kee-gall?

  • @TheRastawookie
    @TheRastawookie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    is seig not also Siegfried because he has his heart?

  • @scornflag386
    @scornflag386 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just pulled Eresh

  • @desmondmalone438
    @desmondmalone438 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:44 if Jeanne was possessed by Lakshimi lol

  • @ollin-tonatiuh6418
    @ollin-tonatiuh6418 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You made 2 small errors when pronouncing Quetzalcoatl I just wanted to point out:
    1. You're supposed to pronounce the "O" in Quetzalcoatl, like how you pronounce the "O" in Koala.
    2. You *DON'T* pronounce the "L" at the end of Quetzalcoatl, just the "T"
    Other than that great video! And yes I agree, Sakura is in the fact the worst of the 3 main heroines of Stay Night.
    I believe in Rin Supremacy.

    • @Solvernia
      @Solvernia 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bro that bit about the "L" ain't true

  • @unrankedchevron742
    @unrankedchevron742 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think it'd be more appropriate to refer to Manannan by his first name rather than as "Son of the Sea."

    • @klidge
      @klidge  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fair point

  • @seangray6131
    @seangray6131 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a question when it comes to Pseudo Servants could they have children unlike normal servants they inhabit human bodies and not Servant bodies that are made up of prana and ether?

  • @Banong_15
    @Banong_15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wait who tf odin used as a body to be classified as a pseudo servant?

    • @klidge
      @klidge  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s spoilers and will be covered in part 2

  • @be6386
    @be6386 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t ow if it’s me but does your voice sound different?

    • @carlospomares3225
      @carlospomares3225 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I noticed it too. Probably a different microphone or something.

  • @ianfelix1108
    @ianfelix1108 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would it be possible to summon a pseudo servant to a regular holy grail war? Like Ishtar, Eresh or Astrea? If not, why not?

    • @SvafaBlackhand
      @SvafaBlackhand 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Odin technically appears in a regular holy grail war, so I'm going with yes. But Odin is a weird version of a pseudo servant, and only manifests in the holy grail war because of his foresight and interference, so... maybe?
      That said, the class card system is also similar, at least in effect, to pseudo servants (masters install/equip their servants). Which would make it a holy grail war entirely comprised of pseudo servants.

    • @ianfelix1108
      @ianfelix1108 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting, thanks for information

    • @pyroblade5287
      @pyroblade5287 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      From what i've seen so far. No

    • @tjossai9302
      @tjossai9302 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In the Fate Strange Fake light novel
      ----Spoilers ahead----
      They made a homonculus body and summoned Ishtar into it, her attitude makes it very clear that Rin affected Ishtar's psyche a lot. This homunculus one is not only stronger but more... should I say godly? In the sense that they think of every1 below them. Although SF's grail war isn't normal honestly there's never been a "normal grail war"
      The 1st was more about making the grail and it's magic passing before any1 even started fighting
      The 2nd was a goddamn bloodbath
      The 3rd was f'd by the Einzberns summoning Angry Mango and corrupting the grail
      The 4th was honestly normalish except for the corrupted grail
      The 5th was also normalish except we had Gilgamesh as a corrupted human, an undead priest(Yorokobe Shounen), a Saber that remembered her previous war and a Counter Guardian that met his past self. Also had some psycho yandere shifting through the imaginary plane and eating people while also trying to resummon Angry Mango

  • @aishi_rei
    @aishi_rei 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    *Pseudo Servant is like every reincarnated Isekai MC.*

  • @chalo3427
    @chalo3427 ปีที่แล้ว

    12:53 this made me lol lmao

  • @Rex10111
    @Rex10111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    DW doesn't want money enough because there's only one Taiga face.

    • @klidge
      @klidge  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I will throw money at summer taiga until she is NP5 regardless of rarity or usability

  • @dragonballoblivion8273
    @dragonballoblivion8273 ปีที่แล้ว

    for some reason instead of pronouncing it as 'sudo' I've been using 'sway do'

  • @desmondmalone438
    @desmondmalone438 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    17:27 *from my experience with Rin* 😓 yeah that them alright lol

  • @justbaka9812
    @justbaka9812 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Space Ishtar pls

  • @kfasdkfasd6609
    @kfasdkfasd6609 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Soooo he predicted that tez coming to fgo

  • @joshuamanlapaz9380
    @joshuamanlapaz9380 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Isnt douman a pseudo servant?

    • @klidge
      @klidge  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No, he is an Alter Ego

  • @strippinheat
    @strippinheat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Something I don't get about pseudo Servants in the Grand Order is that, all the vessels should be dead if the world was bleached. So rather than summoning a spirit into a vessel, we're summoning the vessel with Chaldeas. And on top of that, Ishtar was summoned into Rin in the past several thousand years before Rin was born. Time apparently has no meaning in FGO, but I guess that kinda makes sense as we are basically quantum leaping all over the place. Not to mention the inter-dimensional ones like the Kaleidoscope girls being their forms from a parallel timeline or whatever.

    • @mirzapramudya1580
      @mirzapramudya1580 ปีที่แล้ว

      You do know the throne of heroes exists outside of space time, right? It takes heroes from across space time

  • @vocaloidpartier
    @vocaloidpartier 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do personally like to bealive eresh is using /EXTRA Rin, mostly cause Eresh is bearable and Ishtar much like Stay night Rin is the worst TM

  • @carlossss5548
    @carlossss5548 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jaguar warrior = best servant lol

  • @uncabob214
    @uncabob214 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ishtar has, among many other things, an intrinsic connection blurring of gender as an individual and within her cult. Under a more modern understanding that essentially means that trans identities are part of her portfolio. What I'm say is that Tohsaka Rin says Trans Rights.

  • @anadaere6861
    @anadaere6861 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Taiga is not a Pseudo Servant with Jaguar Man
    Jaguar man is a Pseudo Servant with Taiga, for Taiga is a god amongst gods
    Also Ill keep reiterating that Muramasa, Shirou and AM should function like the Infinity Stones, infinitely buffing each other.

  • @TheKreve
    @TheKreve 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sakura Simps Rise up..
    We will not stand this slander.

  • @NotSoGoodDark
    @NotSoGoodDark ปีที่แล้ว

    Pseudo servants are the products of fgo developers not wanting to make new characters and just reskinning preexisting character designs.

  • @Anthem34
    @Anthem34 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    taiga is taiga

  • @M4gl4d
    @M4gl4d ปีที่แล้ว

    I am so sad you said "to summon up Ishtar" and it was not followed by saying "she's the goddess of thighs."

  • @charlestonho6733
    @charlestonho6733 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Sakura is best girl

  • @pencarinafkah8835
    @pencarinafkah8835 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i'm agree with you, i think sakura is the worst heroine in fsn, but her story is the most interesting though... , i mean i choose Rin all the way😄

  • @joaogabrielwillerding4093
    @joaogabrielwillerding4093 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    23:38 BASED

  • @comictoonmlg
    @comictoonmlg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ryougis a pesudo servant??

    • @namoma4922
      @namoma4922 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't know about assassin but saber shiki is probably not
      She gets a pass because Root connection so getting into the throne is trivial

    • @klidge
      @klidge  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So it's weird and I'll get into it in part two. According to the Type-Moon Wiki she is a pseudo servant possessing herself in order to be summoned. What sense does this make? Couldn't tell you. But I believe it is the same reason why Illya, Kuro, and Miyu are also counted as Pseudo servants on the Fandom site. Weirdly though, Shiki is not.

    • @hmmmooops
      @hmmmooops 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@klidge Maybe that's what happens when you start as a human, then ascend, then use your own body as a vessel?

  • @jaltersimp9639
    @jaltersimp9639 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have you know that Sakura is my favorite heroine of all 3. Imo Rin is the worst of the 3 but still one of the best in all anime imo. Sakura deserves love and justice. Even though she ate half a city of people and killed her own brother but I will look past all that

    • @davidcardozo290
      @davidcardozo290 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tbf, that whole Sakura rampage ordeal was the reflection of all the shit she had to go through, it was somewhat understandable for her to go nuts.

  • @connerbrophy8249
    @connerbrophy8249 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    FINALLY! I feel so validated now for not liking Sakura! She is absolutely the worst of the heroines!