Sea of Faith 4 - Don Cupitt - Documentary : (Marx, Kierkegaard)
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- Prometheus Unbound': Karl Marx & Soren Kierkegaard; the religious individualism of Kierkegaard is contrasted with the socio-economic & political approach of Marx.
Here in Episode 4 of SoF, Cupitt looks at the attempt to find an origin for values in a post enlightenment secular world.
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In this thoughtful and discursive series Rev Prof Don Cupitt explores how Christian thought nurtured, and responded to an increasingly materialist/realist/rationalist modern world-view. Cupitt consideredly meanders through the works and lives of a miscellany of thoughtful coves including Galileo, Pascal, David Strauss, Kierkegaard, Jung, Schopenhaurer, Annie Besant, Vivekananda, Albert Schweitzer, Nietzsche, Wittgenstein and others. This learned, yet accessible, and frankly slightly odd series, is just the sort of thing you don't see on TV anymore.
I believe this series is still available on DVD via the "Sea of Faith Network". www.sofn.org.uk...
(Don Cupitt's 1984 BBC documentary "Sea of Faith" complete, entire whole Episode 4 Prometheus Unbound)
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History. Western Thought, Christianity, Christian Existentialism, Western thought, Marxism, Communism, Religion, Theology, Philosophy, God.
Soren Kierkegaard has been an intellectual hero of mine since I first discovered his writings in college. A tortured soul with a brilliant mind. Thank you for uploading this amazing series!
Wonderful performance of Kierkegaard !
One of the best documentaries.
Existentialism has taken other forms since the Kierkegardian variety, the Sartrean most notably, Camus of course, in pragmatic England they have tended to chuckle at the Continentals and fall back on A J Ayer type Positivism without God, but as Jesus said MY WORDS WILL NOT PASS AWAY
Absolutely riveting and enchanting, what a wonderful series. Many thanks
Great documentary. Great actor playing Kierkegaard. Great delivery of witty quips. Kierkegaard is right. The Kingdom of Heaven is within. The measure of your faith is your willingness to act on it. To act, to decide, you have to believe in SOMETHING.
Decision and acting in a completely static universe is meaningless; decision and acting in a completely chaotic universe is meaningless: we seem to inhabit something in between, a universe with patterns but not fully determined. LOGOS and TAO.
Extrapolation will only go so far. Then you must make a leap of faith. The future is uncertain. We are free. Not completely blind but also not all-seeing. Rationality will only go so far: a theoretical framework with premisses and procedures. If you don't accept the premisses, the rest doesn't follow, there is no argument.
What can we achieve? Only by experimenting - dangerously - can we find out. Everything is provisional, nothing is final. Only by taking risks do we grow. The only thing free of our models is our consciousness, the final I AM beyond which you can never go.
Kierkegaard was a brave pioneer. He expanded consciousness by asking new questions. This expanded freedom has seeped into general (Western) society. We owe him a great debt.
Keep thinking. Keep questioning. There is no end point, no final, exclusive, complete model.
Jesus did not ask us to submit to the earthly powers-that-be, the pervading model-that-be, be it Marxism or an established religion. As Kierkegaard puts it: "Mediocrity with a dash of sugar." And: "To have faith is precisely to lose one's mind so as to win God."
Loose attachment to models - any and all models - and grow individualistic and make an original contribution to society.
Be brave! Because there is no safety in conformity anyway. There is always room for improvement.
I believe god is a douche. In this I believe. Amen.
john miller I believe you are a douchebag and probably a commie.
I believe three things:
1) I believe a great French writer once wrote, "Le doute n'est pas un état bien agréable, mais l'assurance est un état ridicule".
2) I believe "there is discomfort in the position of doubt but the position of absolute certainty is certainly absolutely absurd".
3) I believe I no good at either French or English.
However, for centuries many great thinkers from various countries have said the same thing, yet until now many still have absolute certainty in their own beliefs. If only there was a vaccine for that? Actually, if I've learnt anything from a global pandemic, which caused political leaders from different political ideologies agreeing but many of their citizens disagreeing, I'm thinking vaccines might not be a good metaphor.
How can a man attain the level of salt that was present in Soren Kierkegaard ?
Love these series !
27:10 The music is not Don Giovanni but Figaros marriage!
It is Don Giovanni: "La ci darem la mano": th-cam.com/video/s1dgsjlWs7I/w-d-xo.htmlm14s
Does anyone know where I could find the text of the dialogue of the Parson and the Convert at 43:50? I would dearly love to send it to my pastor the next time he tells us that we need to die to the world.
Don Cupitt is a prophet
BTW I think this series is still available on DVD via the "Sea of Faith Network".
12:50 "in spite of all the talk about love, the more converted americans get, the more harsh and aggresive their society seems to become"
nice!!
That's because it's all a lie.
20:36 uneasy with 'solved' perhaps 'address comprehensively'
33:55 a smart reference to his book or a nice coincidence?
Mr Shadrack from Billy Liar (Kierkegaard)
22:00
Does anyone know the names of the music played in Marx episode?
Arthur HY Au The piece being played during the French revolution bit is Beethoven's Leonore Overture.
Really did not make much sense to pair Marx and Kierkegaard, who should have been paired with Nietzsche.. It might have been been too cliche, but there couldn't be a better example of two thinkers who discussed similar subjects, but came to opposite conclusions. Nietzsche has very little to do with Wittgenstein and should have been paired with Kierkegaard.
Would you of paired Marx and Nietzsche or Kierkegaard and Nietzsche? It's a little unclear.
@@nigelverney9608 The latter.
@@Manx123 Ok, I'll give that some thought.
For me Cuppitt's pairing worked quite well; The contemporaries Marx & Kierkegaard going in very different directions.
How would you contrast N & K.
@@Manx123 I agree with your thoughts on the Kierkegaard and Nietzsche pairing. And while it's already mentioned here, I think it bears repeating that Cupitt's pairing/contrasting of Marx and Kierkegaard (and later Nietzsche and Wittgenstein) worked quite well.
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😩 Angst.
uuuuuuuuuuuugh why did they decide to start doing corny on-camera monologues in the FOURTH episode? do it in the first episode so i'm well prepared to cringe. how do i send an angry e-mail to the 80's?
If I remember the 80s correctly I believe the BBC said Jim'll fix it (i.e send it to Jimmy Saville). Then again he might be inundated with loads of angry emails about the 80s (and the 70s, and even the 90s).
Shame about all the dreadful music. Again, an email back to the 80's is needed.