Can I also call him an ass. Single handedly collapsed Serra's Plane, killed his brother Mishra over the Mightstone and Weakstone, because of the stones he opened the portal to Phyrexia from the Cave of Koilos, killed his mentor Tocasia. He used the Golgothian Sylex which decimated Dominaria which started the Ice Age. Single handedly destoried Tolaria. He gave into the Black Mana of Phyrexia. So glad that Jhoria got the Weatherlight instead. Glad Gerrard got justice for his wife Hanna by decapitation. It was a great thing that Teferi was phased out when the 7 Planeswalkers banded together
7:15 So, sorry, I've only seen/own the earlier versions of Dark Ritual... are you telling me that during that period it was considered a mana source? As in... could it not be countered? I started playing around Legions so, you know, pardon ignorance.
As someone who plays magic for quite some years (8 or so?) now and did not care about the lore at all: Make more of these! (I'm lazy and don't want to read that much stuff. But with input like this I sure will be interested in the lore. Even the more recent one, e.g. Liliana and all that gatewatch stuff. Just remember: I'm lazy but interested! :D )
Fun fact: Urza was not naturally a planeswalker. He gained a planeswalker spark via the magic of the Sylex and the spirit of the Thran elder Glacian, whose essence was absorbed into the Mightstone and Weakstone after having them implanted in him by Yawgmoth. Did I mention The Thran is my favorite Magic novel of all time? I should probably mention that.
I played Magic since The Dark/Revised and was hooked on day one. Unfortunately I dropped out after Urza's Saga because the game was just too expensive for my college student budget. To back into the game when Mirrodin came out, but Urza's is still one of my favorite sets along with Tempest block.
The card just uses a random ability from existing planeswalkers without any weird un-set shinanigans and is therefore to unreliable to even be considered a good card (especially with that mana cost). No reason a play group should have a problem with it unless they hate fun.
That's what kept me away from most editions of modern. On the old days, planeswalkers were so cool and so unique and their power was so immense that they could never be translated into a card. Moreover, you the player, was the ultimate planeswalker. Now we have millions of them, their cards flooding every single deck in any format and it looks like every Joe Doe is a planeswalker by chance, deserving not only one, but quite a few different planeswalkers cards.
if you are a commander player, most planeswalker cards are terrible unless they have a huge impact the turn they are played (i.e. Ugin). They rarely survive by your next turn with three other players gunning for it. I actually like new card types however so I'm ok with planeswalkers. In fact, I would love to see what would happen if their were non-legendary ones. It's a big multi-verse out there, there bound to be at least a couple Joe Does on every plane.
"Their cards flooding every single deck in any format" You don't play much Magic, do you? Only 3 planeswalkers see play in Vintage: Saheeli Rai (very fringe, only in Oath decks as a way to end the game with two copies of her and a copy of Sun Titan), Jace the Mind Sculptor (in very fringe control decks) and Dack Fayden (which does see widespread play due to his ability to steal a mox or break a lotus). The rest of the decks in the format run exactly 0 planeswalkers. No Vintage deck runs more than 2 planeswalkers. In Legacy, the decks that play the most amount of Planeswalkers are Miracles, which plays 2 to 3 copies of Jace, The Mind Sculptor, and Grixis Control, which plays 2 copies of Jace and 1 copy of Liliana, the Last Hope. Death and Taxes does play 2 copies of Gideon, Ally of Zendikar in the sideboard. UB Shadow plays 2 copies of Liliana, the Last Hope in the sideboard too. Stoneblade decks play 1 or 2 copies of JTMS. The rest of (popular) decks in the format run 0 planeswalkers. No deck in Legacy plays more than 3 planeswalkers. In Modern, planeswalkers do see a little bit more of play. Tron plays 6, 4 Karn Liberated and 2 Ugin. The latest UW Control lists are running between 3 and 5 planeswalkers in any combination of Jace, the Mind Sculptor, Teferi, Hero of Dominari and Gideon of the Trials. Mardu Pyromancer runs 2 copies of Liliana of the Veil, and sometimes an extra copy of Liliana, the Last Hope in the sideboard, for a total of 2 to 3 planeswalker cards in the 75. GDS runs 3 planeswalkers in the sideboard, while Jund plays 4 mainboard copies of Liliana of the Veil. The rest of the (popular) decks in the format run 0 planeswalkers. No deck in Modern plays more than 6 planeswalkers, and most decks that do run planeswalkers run around 3. I cannot talk about Standard because I don't play that format enough to be knowledgeable about it. Most decks in Magic do not run planeswalkers. Of the decks that do run planeswalkers in non-rotating formats, the deck that plays the most plays 6 in the 75, which means an 8% of their cards are planeswalkers. Even if that 8% figure was widespread and not the absolute highest of planeswalkers any deck in any nonrotating format runs, it's still waaaaaaay low. But hey, change is bad, fire is scary and Thomas Edison was a witch.
"Their cards flooding every single deck in any format" doesn't mean each deck has 4 copies of a planeswalker, but that a substantial amount of the decks the have REAL chances of winning against a solid netdecked decklist, has at least a planeswalker card in it, something your explanation fails to debunk. I do confess that planeswalkers are not that intense in legacy, but Jace is too powerful in a format where mono blue negation decks have so many low mana intensive answers. One whole archetype can revolve around him in the right meta. The rest of them, are solid additions to already very solid builds in the format. One can't just bring a parfait deck and expect to be on par with the rest of the meta. About Standard, which you didn't mention, let's see how many Karn you must have to compete: W/U Mid - 4 copies W/B Agro / Vehicles - 4 copies B/R Agro - 4 copies B/R Vehicles - 2 copies U/B Mid - 2 copies Sultai Constructs - 3 copies G/U Constructs - 3 copies W/U Artifacts - 4 copies G/W Mid - 3 copies Esper Mid - 2 copies Mono White - 3 copies Seems like Karn alone is a cancer. But Teferi is as much OP as Karn, just in UW form. By the way, he also has room in UW control in vintage, however talking about vintage, a format nobody plays in real life is such a waste, that I don't see why even discussing T1 at all. Again, concerning Standard: Rakdos Mid - Chandra, Torch of Defiance and Karn Red Deck wins - Chandra, Torch of Defiance Grixis Mid - Liliana, Death's Majesty Esper Control - Teferi, Hero of Dominaria Mono green agro - none UW control - Teferi, Hero of Dominaria Cats - Ajani, Adversary of Tyrants God's Pharao Gift - none Golgari - Vivien Reid Dimir Midrange - Liliana, Death's Majesty Orzhov - Ajani, Adversary of Tyrants So, of all decks that have any real chance of winning in T2, only in two of them, planeswalkers are not mandatory. It's not that they benefit from them. They're essential. I don't appreciate your antics and already wrote enough. It's up to each reader make to his own mind.
tl;dr standard is the only planeswalker heavy format. But that's kinda to be expected with how limited the card pool is. Notice how most planeswalker prices tank when they roll out of standard....
When someone asks me what he could play in his deck to imrpove it i tell them to check the Urza Block first. There is always something in it as that block is probably the most powerful of all times.
Did you know that Antiquities was magic's first set that was supported by a coherent story? Really a beautiful set.
Urza is what got me into playing MtG.
I played mtg since i was 10. Im 29 now. Now i rly want to read the books thx to u :D
great job Nathan
He's also in the background of one of the new promo planeswalkers cards.
I really hope Wizards does more with Urza and Serra in the future. I'm bummed Dominaria only got one set.
Benjamin I Meszaros Dominaria has had literally dozens of sets.
@Joe Lowdon I think he means that he wanted more than just one most recent set on Dominaria.
Joe Lowdon It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that he was talking about the set named Dominaria which was literally released this year.
Eliji, the Freemage we got so many bad blocks in the last years and the moment you like a set they only make 1 of it ;(
Most powerful Planeswalker in MTG history
Change my mind
Bad Boy Gaming Bolas is much more powerful but Urza is most likely the most interesting character in the series.
Can I also call him an ass. Single handedly collapsed Serra's Plane, killed his brother Mishra over the Mightstone and Weakstone, because of the stones he opened the portal to Phyrexia from the Cave of Koilos, killed his mentor Tocasia. He used the Golgothian Sylex which decimated Dominaria which started the Ice Age. Single handedly destoried Tolaria. He gave into the Black Mana of Phyrexia. So glad that Jhoria got the Weatherlight instead. Glad Gerrard got justice for his wife Hanna by decapitation. It was a great thing that Teferi was phased out when the 7 Planeswalkers banded together
Mystical Glimmer Urza was never a good person, he was obsessed with revenge and saw everything toward that end as a tool.
How about the player? I'd say that's probably the most powerful planeswalker ever.
I love Urza
Mtg needs to cut the League of super friends bullshit and bring back characters like Urza and elspeth
spoilers-
there both dead
Zach Chaffee Elspeth technically isn’t dead! She’s in the underworld of Theros and is currently attempting an escape
If Elspeth does return, hopefully she can make her way to Dominaria and inspire people as the heir to Serra.
Politikz wait Urza died?!
Mister Outside you know that older artwork on Phyrexian Arena? That’s Urza... being beheaded
Welcome back!!!
Good stuff!
7:15
So, sorry, I've only seen/own the earlier versions of Dark Ritual... are you telling me that during that period it was considered a mana source? As in... could it not be countered?
I started playing around Legions so, you know, pardon ignorance.
Yes
As someone who plays magic for quite some years (8 or so?) now and did not care about the lore at all:
Make more of these!
(I'm lazy and don't want to read that much stuff. But with input like this I sure will be interested in the lore. Even the more recent one, e.g. Liliana and all that gatewatch stuff. Just remember: I'm lazy but interested! :D )
yeeeeeessssssssssss! :)
Should've showed Opposition. My favorite card and Urza in action.
Awesome video!
No love for Urza’s Factory?
It’s clearly what the Tron lands were originally designed for.
The Legacy Weapon.
Fun fact: Urza was not naturally a planeswalker. He gained a planeswalker spark via the magic of the Sylex and the spirit of the Thran elder Glacian, whose essence was absorbed into the Mightstone and Weakstone after having them implanted in him by Yawgmoth.
Did I mention The Thran is my favorite Magic novel of all time? I should probably mention that.
Jack Power I've been wanting to reread the thran
I played Magic since The Dark/Revised and was hooked on day one. Unfortunately I dropped out after Urza's Saga because the game was just too expensive for my college student budget. To back into the game when Mirrodin came out, but Urza's is still one of my favorite sets along with Tempest block.
Father of machines! Yawgmoth! All will be one! Urza was cool too
He was what they want Jace to be
Rocco Wagner Jace could have gotten close to being this interesting if they kept his original backstory
I thought Darksteel was going to be the next video?
i sometimes play urza in my super friends deck in commander when my play group allows me
The card just uses a random ability from existing planeswalkers without any weird un-set shinanigans and is therefore to unreliable to even be considered a good card (especially with that mana cost). No reason a play group should have a problem with it unless they hate fun.
Jonathan King it’s really funny when it back fires
Gonna bring up the Urza block but show no love to the Cradle or Academy?! For shame
Ban Tron lands in Modern.
rip tron
thanks assassins trophy/unmoored ego
That's what kept me away from most editions of modern. On the old days, planeswalkers were so cool and so unique and their power was so immense that they could never be translated into a card. Moreover, you the player, was the ultimate planeswalker.
Now we have millions of them, their cards flooding every single deck in any format and it looks like every Joe Doe is a planeswalker by chance, deserving not only one, but quite a few different planeswalkers cards.
The players are supposed to be akin to the power of Bolas...another tier of planeswalker.
if you are a commander player, most planeswalker cards are terrible unless they have a huge impact the turn they are played (i.e. Ugin). They rarely survive by your next turn with three other players gunning for it. I actually like new card types however so I'm ok with planeswalkers. In fact, I would love to see what would happen if their were non-legendary ones. It's a big multi-verse out there, there bound to be at least a couple Joe Does on every plane.
"Their cards flooding every single deck in any format"
You don't play much Magic, do you?
Only 3 planeswalkers see play in Vintage: Saheeli Rai (very fringe, only in Oath decks as a way to end the game with two copies of her and a copy of Sun Titan), Jace the Mind Sculptor (in very fringe control decks) and Dack Fayden (which does see widespread play due to his ability to steal a mox or break a lotus). The rest of the decks in the format run exactly 0 planeswalkers. No Vintage deck runs more than 2 planeswalkers.
In Legacy, the decks that play the most amount of Planeswalkers are Miracles, which plays 2 to 3 copies of Jace, The Mind Sculptor, and Grixis Control, which plays 2 copies of Jace and 1 copy of Liliana, the Last Hope. Death and Taxes does play 2 copies of Gideon, Ally of Zendikar in the sideboard. UB Shadow plays 2 copies of Liliana, the Last Hope in the sideboard too. Stoneblade decks play 1 or 2 copies of JTMS. The rest of (popular) decks in the format run 0 planeswalkers. No deck in Legacy plays more than 3 planeswalkers.
In Modern, planeswalkers do see a little bit more of play. Tron plays 6, 4 Karn Liberated and 2 Ugin. The latest UW Control lists are running between 3 and 5 planeswalkers in any combination of Jace, the Mind Sculptor, Teferi, Hero of Dominari and Gideon of the Trials. Mardu Pyromancer runs 2 copies of Liliana of the Veil, and sometimes an extra copy of Liliana, the Last Hope in the sideboard, for a total of 2 to 3 planeswalker cards in the 75. GDS runs 3 planeswalkers in the sideboard, while Jund plays 4 mainboard copies of Liliana of the Veil. The rest of the (popular) decks in the format run 0 planeswalkers. No deck in Modern plays more than 6 planeswalkers, and most decks that do run planeswalkers run around 3.
I cannot talk about Standard because I don't play that format enough to be knowledgeable about it.
Most decks in Magic do not run planeswalkers. Of the decks that do run planeswalkers in non-rotating formats, the deck that plays the most plays 6 in the 75, which means an 8% of their cards are planeswalkers.
Even if that 8% figure was widespread and not the absolute highest of planeswalkers any deck in any nonrotating format runs, it's still waaaaaaay low.
But hey, change is bad, fire is scary and Thomas Edison was a witch.
"Their cards flooding every single deck in any format" doesn't mean each deck has 4 copies of a planeswalker, but that a substantial amount of the decks the have REAL chances of winning against a solid netdecked decklist, has at least a planeswalker card in it, something your explanation fails to debunk. I do confess that planeswalkers are not that intense in legacy, but Jace is too powerful in a format where mono blue negation decks have so many low mana intensive answers. One whole archetype can revolve around him in the right meta. The rest of them, are solid additions to already very solid builds in the format. One can't just bring a parfait deck and expect to be on par with the rest of the meta.
About Standard, which you didn't mention, let's see how many Karn you must have to compete:
W/U Mid - 4 copies
W/B Agro / Vehicles - 4 copies
B/R Agro - 4 copies
B/R Vehicles - 2 copies
U/B Mid - 2 copies
Sultai Constructs - 3 copies
G/U Constructs - 3 copies
W/U Artifacts - 4 copies
G/W Mid - 3 copies
Esper Mid - 2 copies
Mono White - 3 copies
Seems like Karn alone is a cancer. But Teferi is as much OP as Karn, just in UW form. By the way, he also has room in UW control in vintage, however talking about vintage, a format nobody plays in real life is such a waste, that I don't see why even discussing T1 at all.
Again, concerning Standard:
Rakdos Mid - Chandra, Torch of Defiance and Karn
Red Deck wins - Chandra, Torch of Defiance
Grixis Mid - Liliana, Death's Majesty
Esper Control - Teferi, Hero of Dominaria
Mono green agro - none
UW control - Teferi, Hero of Dominaria
Cats - Ajani, Adversary of Tyrants
God's Pharao Gift - none
Golgari - Vivien Reid
Dimir Midrange - Liliana, Death's Majesty
Orzhov - Ajani, Adversary of Tyrants
So, of all decks that have any real chance of winning in T2, only in two of them, planeswalkers are not mandatory. It's not that they benefit from them. They're essential.
I don't appreciate your antics and already wrote enough. It's up to each reader make to his own mind.
tl;dr standard is the only planeswalker heavy format. But that's kinda to be expected with how limited the card pool is. Notice how most planeswalker prices tank when they roll out of standard....
Do yawgmoth
Return to dominaria would be great.
TheBlackdragon936 Dominaria technically was Return to Dominaria
It WAS a return to Dominaria.
Blackdragon made a joke, it flew over your heads.
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Great video, but imo Morphling is also worth a note ^^ Don't put superman in the corner ;)
When someone asks me what he could play in his deck to imrpove it i tell them to check the Urza Block first. There is always something in it as that block is probably the most powerful of all times.
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