How to Find a Film Lab | Shooting Super 8
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 พ.ย. 2019
- Once you've shot a roll of Super 8 film through your camera, what happens next? Getting your film processed is necessary to see the footage that you've shot, but motion picture film labs aren't always the easiest to find.
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They should rename super 8 to super expensive.
hahahah
queenwolfee Well aren’t you the lucky one. You are still going to have to sell a kidney to pay for the film and processing haha
@Kent Teffeteller it certainly was a lot cheaper though. When the filmprice included the processing most of the time. And even the film itself was cheaper.
highly recommend Pro8mm in Burbank, California. Used them many times for both 8mm and 16mm bolex work. They’ve got great deals on packages as well.
Bruu I watched your videos about super 8 yesterday, then you have another video again!! I appreciate your content! Keep up the goodwork!
I absolutely LOVE your videos, I’m in the process of buying a super 8 camera for a school project and your videos have helped me learn SO much, thank you! 🙏❤️📹
Hey I needed this, Thanks!
Great video again, it really helped me!
Thanks so much. I love your videos + this one was everything I needed today!
Hey! I love your stuff so much!!!! Keep doing it !!
0:45 mystery uh?
*Laughs in standard 8mm*
You're in Toronto! Yes! I'm Canadian! I'm going to use Niagara!
Can highly recommend NanoLab in VIC Australia. So glad we have a local option for film sales, development and scanning. Richard does a stellar job at a fair price!
Awesome video as usual. I own a Canon Auto Zoom 814 Super 8mm Camera that I recently got signed by some of my favorite movie directors. So far its been signed by Kenneth Anger, Floria Sigismondi, Werner Herzog, John Waters and Tim Burton!
I highly recommend Film photography project for developing and scanning! Their prices are the best I’ve come across so far.
Another great video! My beaulieu 4008 zm 2 on its way!
You are the BEST!
Thanx for the video!!!
This question have I ask me today, thanks for you help.
you're the best :), I love your channel very very much :))
Highly recommend Niagara Custom labs. They are affordable and did an excellent job on my last cartridge of super 8
Thank you. Best C...
Love the intro.
I do bring my films to Andec-Berlin.Very good results.
Hey! I have a question: I’m new to this and am wondering before I send in my film, do I have to send an empty usb along with it if I wanted it to be digitally transferred? Or do I just send the film alone?
yes you should put a digital storage medium into your package with the film as well and probably also an extra Box with your address and enough postal stamps so they can send it back to you properly. Otherwise they may just get any USB Stick or USB harddrive and charge you for the storage medium. So yeah, it's better to put your own storage memory into the box when you get it scanned.
Hi. In Vancouver. I notice Frame Discreet is considerably more expensive than Pro8mm for film, processing, and a 2K ProRes 422/4444 scan. But they claim to offer HDR with a two pass for highlights and a darks pass, something Pro8mm doesn't mention. Have you tried either of them and what did you make of the service and output files? Also, is there any point at all in doing a 4K scan for 4X3 overscan files?
I noticed at the start of the video there is a silver Nizo super 8 camera, what model is it? I have a 156 macro and I have got some expired Agfa moviecrhome film in it which expired in 1981 but has been kept in a cool place so it should be in slightly better shape than it would have been if it had been left somewhere that was hotter. There is a way of processing Kodak Kodakchrome with coffee but it makes a negative with a bit of a tint in the footage.
There is gauge film in the UK which sells film with developing and also doe scanning.
Justin Lovell here, founder of www.framediscreet.com.
Thanks for the shout out. If anyone has questions about scanning or super 8 in general feel free to reach out via our website www.framediscreet.com or find us on social media/instagram @frame_discreet.
All the best!
Justin Lovell
Associate Member of the Canadian Society of Cinematographers
Frame Discreet
8/16/35mm 4K/HDR Motion Picture Film Scanning
slightly off topic but as a child I had a view-master. I thought it was the most magical wonderful thing. Any idea if it is possible to get a 3d camera and viewer (for adults not a toy)?
There are some older ones called Stereo-Realist cameras that take larger images then a view-master and have special 3D viewers as well!
How can you process the oft-used Kodachrome 40 Super-8 Color Movie Films ?
Kodachrome can no longer be processed after its discontinuation in 2010! Kodak ended production of all the chemicals for its special process so no Kodachrome can be properly developed as color reversal like it used to be. A few labs may offer to do it as black and white negative but many won’t process it at all.
Hi Noah. Big fan. I'm about to send off my first roll of super 8 to get processed and transferred back to me but... I see there are multiple options for quality and price. Ranging from a basic transfer all the way up to 4k, at a significantly more expensive price. Would you say that 4k is worth it for such a low definition image? What would you recommend? Many thanks in advance.
I think it's enough to scan it to 1080p or 1440p, over this treshold the film quality isn't going to increase details.
It's best to use 4K-5K resolution if you have 16mm-35mm film reels.
It depends on the camera and how good the lens is. Super 8 cameras in general never had all that great lenses to begin with. But you definitely can squeeze out an extra amount of details from a good 4K scan. I'd say it is worth it when you have material where you are sure you really want that extra detail. Plus when you scale down 4K material to Full HD it will always look sharper than a normal Full HD scan. Take a look at some of the different Super 8 4K scans here on youtube and play it back at 4K too. However keep in mind youtube's terrible videocompression will still eat a LOT of details like the fine filmgrain. However it should still give you at least an idea what to expect. And when you wanna use that super 8 material for a filmproject and be able to adjust colour and contrast levels yourself, use a so called "LOG Scan" or "One-Light" which means the Filmmaterial will come with muted colours and contrast and a VERY neutral picture that you can adjust to your liking and providing you enough potential for grading it. And you may also chose "open gate" as an option to have more picture information even around the filmgate so you might also see the sprockethole. But this gives you the option to also crop it the way you want with as little picture loss as possible. Imho the current Vision 3 Negative stock for super 8 is definitely worthy of a 4K scan.
I bought an super 8 camera online, with an actually unused film inside of it! I shot all of the film and now im ready to send it of to a film Lab. But i dont know which kind off super 8 film it is, how can i tell them apart? There isnt some kind of writing on it
I miss the days when you could drop your super 8 off at places like Walgreens, Kmart, target etc. In the mid 90s to early 2000s i used to send mine to Dwaynes and they would process all my Kodachrome then. I got back into super 8 a few years ago and used Pro8mm. But i have been looking for other places to try. I did see that the Film Photography now offers process and transfer.
Yes it can be expensive, but i mostly use it to film my family and friends. I have over 50yrs of 8mm movies films of my family. Those films have held up better than my old VHS tapes and HI8 videos of my family. Film is the best!
johnrenteria75 have you tired pro8mm max 8 cameras?
Dwayne’s processes Ektachrome quite cheaply if you just want processing.
@@acmcdesign i sent myn2 rolls last week to Dwaynes. The rolls came back in less than a week. Both rolls came out great on my 40+yr old camera.
@@brawler1972 no i have not. I still use my Minolta, Chinon and bell & Howell.. i am not a amature film maker. I only paid a few dollars for those camera 20+ yrs ago. They still work great.
johnrenteria75 I wish Dwayne’s processed B&W Super 8.
Super 8 is super GREAT!!!😂😂🥁
Kodak could sell many more film cassettes if, like in the past, they would offer development in the USA, Canada and Europe, including instant digitization.
Until today I was thinking that all I need to do is to scan it in order to digitalise it :D
why you don't shoot 8mm film if you have so many cameras, films and lab?
how do you know if the cartridges is finish
Usually different cameras have some indicator in the viewfinder, as well as a footage counter on the side which is a dial that moves from 0ft to 50ft. Also the camera will sound different once film in the cartridge stops moving through it. And the film cartridge will have the word ‘exposed’ printed on the very end of the film visible at the front of the cartridge.
Question:
I recently took my super 8 film to a lab and they had many different digital formats options they can give me back my film. I was wondering what would be the best digital format to receive back my film. I choose prores, but I am not sure if I made the right choice giving that the film is only super 8 and not anything to professional. IF I TAKE ANOTHER ROLL OF FILM TO THE LAB WHAT WILL GIVE ME THE BEST RESULTS AND HELP NOT HURT MY WALLET.
I do want to retouch it maybe, but this is the first time I use super 8 so I am not sure if I can do any retouching and it will look good.
ProRes is a high quality video codec so that means that they will give you your file back without much compression on it! It's very good quality and will give you a file that will be good for editing yourself too!
Analog Resurgence thank you 🙏🏻 Glad I didn’t make the wrong choice
That's first lab you mentioned in Toronto, they wouldn't give my student discount because I didn't want it scanned 🤦♂️
Bring it over to Frame Discreet. We will take care of you. We just focus on scanning and we know how to make them look better then other labs. ♥
I mean, getting a digital scan is nice. Don't need to have a projector to show it off.
hey i need your help, i want a 8mm film editor but i need to know if i can view it without being developed, thanks
Film cannot ever be viewed without first being developed
@@AnalogResurgence thanks a ton
I got my film back from cinelab and the footage looks great but the film gauge on the left and footage on the top and bottom were showing. How do I fix this?
You can crop the file to just the frame of the film using an editing program!
Analog Resurgence Thanks!
My 8mm projector has RIP two films and I can't risk feeding it any of my future films am thinking of making. Am done with the darn thing even if it means losing $60 . Hey Noah! What's the cost of negative vs reversal film? I like the cheaper option cause am not planing on seeing it on a projector.
Negative film and negative film developing is usually a little cheaper then reversal. Tri-X black and white reversal is about the same cost as negative film, but color reversal ektachrome is much more expensive so negative film is the cheaper route to go especially if you aren't projecting!
@@AnalogResurgence Tri-x b&w film is 400 speed and I don't think my minolta xl 401 can use it. Since the camera is for 40, 160, 25, 100 asa. But the 50d negative looks good for a first trial run. Thanks for the reply and take care.
@@The_Traveling_ClownTri-X reversal in Super 8 is a 200iso film under daylight or 160 under tungsten, so it would probably only over-expose it by 1 stop!
The thing why I don't dare to film super 8 is, that it is so expensive for only 3 minutes of film and you don't even know if the video turns out good or just blurry or something. I wanna try it out so badly though...
LysandervT honestly all I can say is that you should make the leap. I just shot and then sent out my first super8 film and got it back. It was honestly the most magical thing I’ve seen. If you’re worried about cost I’d say go to pro8mm.com and the have a package priced at 88 dollars for the film itself with processing and scanning included if that within your price range. It’s the cheapest thing around I believe and it’s what I ended up going with and I didn’t regret it. Also after standard shipping it comes out to more like $100 flat which is reasonable considering how much you’d pay for every separate step.
Do not make that leap
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@@dylanbrown787 So $100 for three minutes of video? You hipsters have very low standards.
Shannon Trainer bruh nobody was asking for your opinion. It’s not about having the highest quality videos possible it’s just about having fun with something new.
@@dylanbrown787 No, it's about getting on your high horse and telling telling how film is superior to digital and saying meatless crap like "I only shoot film" and "I shoot film exclusively in order to justify some hipster film circle-jerk.
kodak lab directory link unavailable =(
Updated: www.kodak.com/en/motion/page/labs
@@AnalogResurgence Thanks G! Just shot recently. Looking to develop and watching your guides have been super helpful. Have you talked about the differences in pushing and pulling in a vid?
@@bobunitone Not very much yet for motion picture stuff, but I did a little bit of a basic exploration of it in terms of developing with stills!
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Yet again another great video with good advice. I shoot super 8 Extachrome here in the UK and I would highly recommend www.johnsalimphotographic.co.uk for E6 processing. I use him all the time. Turnaround time is good and he uses a leader belt continuous processor which is process controlled. I think he is now the only company processing E6 Super8, 16mm and 35mm in the UK.
If you are looking in UK, you can also go to gauge film. I live in Austria and there are actually pretty much labs around, especially in Hungary or in Czechia. I think that the main problem of processing film are the shipping costs (I have to pay 18€ just for shipping to andec in Germany) so my main film lab is now this one, which is in Paris and had the lowest shipping costs www.cine-super8.net/
Dis is sad I can’t find one in the philippines 😭
You could send it over maybe?