The tone has changed a lot. In the original, Angela is aggressive, emotionally unpredictable, and paranoid. In this remake, Angela is dissociated, devoid of energy, fatigued, depressed, and resigned. A very different approach. In the staircase scene especially, Angela is more like, "Whatever, I'll find another way..." opposed to, "You can't stop me!!," in the original. Both are lovely. :)
Always haunting when she states "for me it's always like this." The glimpse into her painfully intense and unsafe world is enough to give me goosebumps.
Im surprised by how much i like the voice acting. It's still very stilted, but feels a little more natural way for someone who has semi functionally adapted to sever psychological stress. The only thing I'm less keen on is the staircase scene. I really quite liked the mood swings, mocking, amd bitterness of the original delivery. I do still just want to give her a big hug (that preferably wouldn't traumatise her) and tell her it'll be okay
I really like 9:22, something they never touched in the original. James asks Angela if she's seen Laura, and since the player obviously knows it's innocuous, Angela being in Silent Hill buried in so much trauma thinks that he's a predator. It answer questions while still staying true to the original.
Dude! She doesn't think that he's a predator, it triggers angela when he said little girl as she is still a little girl when she was abused. She must've remembered when she wqas always being told "my little girl"
I don't think it means that she see james as a predator, particularly on that moment, i believe she saw her father on James, same with the stairs scene, she thought James was her mother for a moment
9:25 i dunno if it checks out, but as soon as James says "little girl" and it triggers Angela to see her father besides him I swear i can hear burning sounds in the background.
I played the OG for 5x, i know what to expect on each scene. But i legit cried when angela broke down during her line "or you could just force me, like he always did". The change of mood from tension and anger to depression and sadness...it was just too much. Bloober Team, hats off to you.
As someone with a similar experience with abuse, the scene make me shed a tears. The way she broke down makes me want to just hug her and tell her that she’s out of that living hell
You know what? As a man, i think that maybe angela WAS right. Like seriously, heres a character who has been s*xually abused for all her life and yet all yall can think of is why shes not hot enough???
It was so fucked up. People calling the game Woke because they cannot see Angela as sexy enough to be assaulted. These people are just fucked in the head.
Actress did an incredible job blending emotion, stiltedness, and natural speaking. That's no easy feat. The facial animations and cinematic direction were exceptional as well. I think the only scene I feel more strongly about over the remake is the staircase scene for two simple reasons and they have to do with camera direction. The slow profile pan up the stairs with James hanging his head in shame and the shot of Angela speaking directly into the camera like she's talking to the player. As for the performance in that scene, it seems like they took a different direction. Instead of her sort of berating/being manic, she's less aggressive but still accusatory. I think this may be in part due to the way they wanted to represent someone who has been abused (less like a manic charicature). Purely speculation though. All in all, loved it.
Original VA was better overall. The Remake VA delivery on her lines was wooden at times, especially the cemetery introduction. She got better in the knife and the abstract daddy scene but fell flat on Angela's final scene.
I agree about the hanging his head in shame part, it should have been there. It was very communicative in a non-verbal way. Shame. The rest is on point I guess
That's just objectively wrong. The remake Angela sounds EXTREMELY loud and obnoxious. Every scene she's in she has that drunk-raspy grainy man-voice that's like three times louder than James' voice. This plump-faced abomination is an insult to the original game, and a perfect example of some woke self-insertion by some fat virgin developer. The original Angela was thin and pale after years of suicidal depression and bordering on the edge of going through with it. Most importantly: Her voice perfectly depicted her mental state of basically having "given up" on life. This new obnoxious woke failure is just another example of how they want to appeal to the small amount of quirky, ugly, unfit misfits so they can go "omg i'm her" for a little while, before they go on their pronoun in bio twitter profile and tweet about how relatable and awesome the game is. Sincerely: People like you don't know what the Hell you're talking about. You don't know how symbolism works, you can't spot a good metaphor from a mile away, and your entire comment is an embaressment.
You should see the original then. I can't stand the voice of this new one, not to mention the awkward, disproportional plump-face. This is definitely a DEI self insert, because her entire face is so out of place now. And her last scene in the burning stairs she has the most RASPY, GRAINY VOICE EVER! It's disturbingly obnoxious. They absolutely butchered the original Angela in the remake. As someone who is balls deep in the metaphors and symbolism of the first one I can't stand what they did to such a complex character as the OG Angela...
Sorry but as someone that has been mesmerised by the original game even before its official release, Bloober absolutely nailed Angela’s portrayal and handled its themes delicately while adding so much more depth to the original via new dialogue and incredible voice acting. This is better than the original.
The original Silent Hill 2 is a masterpiece obviously, and it's one of my favorite games of all time. But, I love BT's take on Angela. She looks like a ninteen-year-old, but one who's been through hell. The way she talks, the way she carries herself, her disassociating, it all matches so much with people who harbor trauma like hers and go through life without processing it properly. Well done, BT!
Completely agree with you, i have an undying respect to the Original Silent Hill; but the take on Laura's character is quite good. Specially the Staircase scene.- Just my opinion tho.-
Honestly I like this version of her. I understand people not liking the VO work, but the whole "she's ugly" and "why isn't she attractive anymore" arguements gives me major goosebumps when its this character in question.
She actually looks her age too - in the original I thought she was well in her 30's, maybe 40 even. She looks 'right' for a teenage girl (she's like 19) who's lived through absolute hell.
@@juuchanIRLI don't particularly think so. I think the improved graphics give the illusion that she looks older, but in the original, she's clearly designed as a more mature woman. In here, she looks more realistic, but shes clearly designed as a younger person.
I'm totally could relate to her and strangely, able to predict what she'd do next. She's definitely resonated with me more in this version. Maybe I've had a similar trauma. IDK. It's just... fits.
I think this new interpretation of the character is really great. She seems like a very very damaged person. Someone who has a really hard time acting "normal" and engaging in normal conversation. And also very unpredictable, like you can NEVER tell how she will react, really scary. A pretty dann good example of mental illness. In other modern media, mental illness, especially in young women, is often shown as some kind of quirk. Here, it gets shown as what it is, a terrible burden, and, in this Case, a hopeless situation. Pretty bold, actually.
Now that they've come this far, I feel like the studio should make a short DLC from Angela's perspective. I'd love to see what her version of SH looks like from the moment she meets us in the graveyard
@@greatestnitemare6626I’m a newcomer to all this so no nostalgia whatsoever, and I think the remake very clearly has better performances. The standards for acting in video games is just higher now than it was back then.
I came in completely blind to this game. The narrative was completely obtuse for most of this play time, but after finishing it and seeing the scope of its story it's impact has stayed with me for days. The mirror scene (and its score) was mesmerising, and that was the moment I knew this game was really special. After some time to fully realise what I've experienced i'm in awe. Angela's story is the darkest and most impactful I can remember in a long while, and what it means for James' own story is not lost on me. It's too much for her to go on, and James not having the commitment to really give her what she needs to save her is so realistic that it hurts. This game addresses psychological demons in ways that no other game has ever come close to
What you said at the end is so true, they even added the detail that when you reach the save point after the staircase cutscene James looks away from the screen. He has been staring right into the eyes of the player for the entire game and right after that he looks away like he’s so ashamed of not being able to help Angela he can’t look at the player in the eye anymore
The fact that she sounds and looks younger makes it more distressing somehow. She seems more naive, but somehow, aware. The og gave a more messed up vibe but this gives me a more realistic approach vibe… which FOR ME, is more distressing.
The addition of that night time rosewater park scene for Angela was good. Helped keep her in the story a bit more than the original game where she just disappears for half the game.
@@Gan3eL sure, but he can leave with Maria, which it is implied will end in disaster. So you could have it as an ending even if it isn't going to work out.
I’m afraid there’s no fixing what’s wrong with Angela. The pain is just rooted too deep. She will never fully trust another man in her life ever again.
6:57 i really love this new scene. it explains a lot about Angela’s character. pay attention to James triggering words “I’m HAPPY to see you” “We stick TOGETHER we might get out of here” “LITTLE GIRL”
She really sounds, looks and acts like a teenager now. A major improvement from the original. She looked and sounded like a 30-40 year old woman in the original
Angela's older, worn-out appearance in the original was intentional. It was supposed to show the toll her life had taken on her inside and out. I don't mind a more youthful looking Angela, as imho as it makes her seem almost too childlike. To the point where you can tell something is wrong with her at a glance. Since it's common for abuse victims to stay mentally 'stuck' at the age their abuse started, or regress to it under severe stress, it still fits with her trauma narrative. Like the rest of the remake it's different, but still great.
@@cherrycordiaI Thats a huge cope from og fanboy. Same with ''of course OG has bad and cringe voice acting bec it gives game more dream like feel''. LMAO u guys will come up with all the shit
@@sillylittlesheepjax6009says the remake fanboy shill 😂😂😂😂😂 It’s in the SH2 commentary you shill that Angela was purposely designed to look and sound older due to the emotional drama she endured. GET OWNED. Take your own copium and snort it
@sillylittlesheepjax6009 making her seem older was an intentional choice in the casting and character design in the original as stated in the SH2 documentary back in 2002. Not that you even played it though 😢
@@sillylittlesheepjax6009 omg I agree so much with you XD like I can understand them, they grew up with Silent Hill but the voice acting is 1000x better in the remake. James OG voice is also so bad XDDD
Idk I still think she’s beautiful in this version . She has a homely look and you just want to protect her but also she gives off an unpredictable vibe
When Angela asked “happy to see me ?” I wonder how things would’ve turned out if James said yes. Mabye for once Angela would have felt wanted and cared for in good way and would have decided to live.
she is so cute i love her with all of my heart she makes me so sad they made her perfect in every way i'm so incredibly happy with the remake i can't believe how much love it was made with for the story the game and the characters
I love how she almost looks excited when asks James "Are you afraid?". It's like the strong, confident and confrontational side of her slips out for a second. Every actor in this game is just perfect!
I don't get how some people claim she's ugly... like, in the original model she looked much older than she's supposed to be. Here she looks young, her cheeks are more puffed like that of a baby or a cherub. She looks delicate, but her chainsmoker voice contrasts the look heavily. I understand potential complaints about the VA... but the model? It's perfect.
I wholeheartedly agree with this but the only issue I have is with how are they going to handle her as good as it was handled from James’s perspective, how does her hell translate into silent hill and shape the areas around her other than what we already know, and I just worry how her writing will be handled since all the scenes are based off the original with minimal differences,I think all the characters deserve a dlc just like how Maria had born from a wish but creating new material is going to be challenging and I hope if they ever do decide to make them I hope they treat her story with the respect it deserves
I mean, originally, SH2 was supposed to have alternating protags. Angela and Eddie were supposed to be the other two. Seeing that fully realized with campaigns for them would be interesting!
9:37 has anybody realized there’s another step sound in the background, angela and james notices it too, when she says “you shouldn’t be here” she’s not talking to James but somebody hiding somewhere that only she’s able to see, thats why James gets confused and gets near her
What a tragic character. She's barely a husk of a human being. Devoid of all emotions except anger and despair. Terrific performance by the voice actress.
I can't stop thinking about this game. It's been weeks, and it keeps randomly popping into my brain. As someone who has experienced mental illness, this story resonated with me in a way that no other game has. And I can't stop thinking about it.
I wish an extra scene each for Eddie and Angela could be added which would answer whatever loophole was present in their respective stories in original game.
@@DearAnem0ia I dunno, for example Eddie explaining how he did meet Laura or when asked where are her parents, Eddie would not have an answer for that question, giving James an idea she is an orphan or ran away on her own from her family to Silent Hill. I know, a topic I wrote is more about Laura than Eddie.
James Sunderland being soft with Angela and physically blocks her from leaving on multiple occasions, yet is uncomfortable with Maria being forward with him. 🤔
Basically, James was acting as an impromptu dad with Angela. With Maria, it shows that James is, in fact, still in love with Mary (despite the fact that he killed her out of being tired of watching his sick wife).
It's interesting how Angela says James sees the fire and she says it's always like this for her. That would explain why you don't see her with a torchlight and she's walking around in the dark. Because she has fire surrounding her and it's helping her see in the darkness.
Man they did such a good job smoothing out the parts of the original that were poorly rendered while still maintaining the emotional and dramatic tension/awkwardness of these characters. I believe in Angela's story more in this version. The voice actress really brings across the depression and anxiety that someone in her position would feel.
As a big fan of SH2 I must admit that I love how SH 2 fans always act like the OG was an untouched masterpiece and they refuses to see it without the nostalgia blinding them. Classic characters are almost all James. • Angela was James with black wig and female body. • Maria was James with blonde wig and female body. • Laura was James with blonde wig and child body. And of course, they always take this nonsense of thinking every pixel of the OG game had a meaning and a soul, but the real fact is they did what was possible due to the ps2 limitations. If you keep looking to something you can find a lot of meaning even in a blank space, but it doesn't mean it was made to have a meaning itself. And let's not forget about the goofy voice acting due to the past VA not taking game so serious when it comes to give characters a propper personality. Aand yeah, also Eddie being one of the most ridiculous bosses from horror games, we literally have to hit his head with a pipe while he runs in the funniest way possible. Silent Hill 2 is my favorite and I loved this remake so much. I wish my back in the day child could see it in 2006 when i first played og. But I am so excited for SH1 Remake. Fans are waay more mature and reasonable. And even way less toxic than the majority of SH2 fans.
I recently rediscovered this Character after actually semi dating someone who reminded me of her so much that i got goosebumps from watching these clips I don t know why but a lot of people have been complaining about her new design because they think she looks more fat or something like that The weird thing is that she actually resembles the girl i dated a lot more now and yes she was also sexually abused in her past... Even her voice sounds a lot more like the woman i knew Wow
Dude same here actually. I had a roommate that I would hang out with and she looked and sounded quite similar to the new Angela. We never hooked up tho so idk if she was abused 😬
@@Heycoolyo It feels so strange doesn't it? Me and her even parted on bad terms too and some even said she wasn't being particularly nice to me etc and yet somehow i feel more empathy towards her than anyone else ever did And sometimes i look up these angela cutscenes and think about her
La escena de las escaleras es incluso mas devastadora en este Remake. La forma en que James y Angela comprenden el infierno del otro es algo que no estaba en el juego original Antes te podias quedar viendola subir las escaleras hasta que desaparecia entre las flamas. Ahora James simplemente se va y cierra la puerta, aceptando el destino de Angela y el suyo propio.
The original stair scene was better and very emotional. Messed me up when I realized Angela was burning in hell the entire time and she did nothing wrong.
Agreed! Maybe they got abused as-d young lady image on her better with the voice, appearance and acting, but it will never compare with delusional and dissociative form of original, where the voice active might been a bit histrionic but it was what made silent hill a real mind breaking horror.
0:240:43 ah! I see! That's explained a lot. Yeah. She already knew this town curse.. she wasnt like James or Eddie which come to pay for their retribution
My dearlyn Angela what they did to You? You are just trying your Best with the life that been given You are just an angel with a broken soul betrayed by people who should have given you love. But what You can do when the monsters are there, in the time when You are jougest and the Home can not left Surrounded by fear, violence and pain, your life it's a prisión that your mind could not scape Oh My dear Angela there left no hope in your heart but the suffering that You ended by yourself Who could imagine your fateful end, I wish I hadn't left you alone with the pain
Its so interesting that with everything Angela has been through and how young she is that she's the one most based in reality. She is the first to call James out on his hypocrisy and bullshit with Mary. "Admit it, you didnt want her around anymore. Probably found aomeone else?"
I love SH2 OG so much but i have to admit that the VA in SH2R is much better, show us more emotion of the character. I dont know why and how some people shit on it for no good reason at all.
I played the original back in 2001. Angela is one of the most tragic and moving characters I've encountered. I sometimes wish they they had touched upon the nature of the afterlife within the Silent Hill universe. Enough to know if characters like Angela and Alessa were at peace.
Remember all the fuss over her first appearance? Yeah, where's that now? Mfs got unreasonably mad over a bunch of frames and where are they now? This "anti woke gamers" trend is a plague upon the earth
I've seen many corn (if you know you know what corn should be) rotten brains "fixing" her. Meaning they give her spine breaking breasts, removing her clothes and giving her skimpy ones and all the other thing a cornstar has. Like what a way to disrespect a caracter like this, she has suffered enough. The anti-woke group is a complete joke for saying their "fixed" Angela is the Angela they deserve.
to be honest, with all the new ac and dustborn, i can understand "anti woke" gamers, but this time i disagree with them, this angela is really good, not perfect but very good
I'd rather blame Konami and their poor marketing for that, honestly. The first time they showed Angela, she appeared as cute childish pumpkin that's well fed and loved by her grandma, instead of what her character really is. I can easily see how that caused the whole controversy around her among the fans of the OG game. While Bloober Team were delivering solid product, Konami completely botched its presentation
The voice actor is incredible for Angela in the remake. Such awesome speach pattern choices and awesome emotion in the performance. She nailed it. The remake performances lost a bit of the lynchian quality, but they did a great job either way.
In the Abstract Daddy stage, is it possible James couldn't see the l flesh walls, thrusting machines and broken fans since it's supposed to be Angela's otherworld and only visible only to her and us players?
The way angela says "I can finally rest now" That line alone just seems odd, as well as why she was looking for her mother in a graveyard of all places when we first meet her.. Why would anyone search for someone presumably alive in a graveyard's tombstone..
@@aswangmonkey361 Sure both are looking for people, but isn't extremely odd that her search would start at the final resting place for all. What's more telling that line she spoke at the end. It's like she was never alive to begin with, despite the empty graves we saw in the prison
This entire comment section is a goldmine of whiny manchilds crying on both sides of the spectrum lmao, if you enjoy the original that’s fine and if you enjoy the remake that is perfectly fine, why do you have to drag down the other and throw a fit like an actual child?
In the Historical Society, everyone sees their traumatic past moments. James sees his life fall apart for three years and eventually kills his wife Angela sees her father and relives when she was abused by him. Eddie sees himself as a murderer which he felt like when he shot that bully.
Bruh the amount of people saying the original voice actors were so much better must have hard nostslgia blinders on. Given for what the time period was, the acting was decent but after experiencing both as someone who grew up with the games, this Angela and James are are the better of the two hands down.
I personally don't agree with the idea that they made her 'uglier" or more importantly that they wrote her better in the original. It's more like they took a different approach with the same idea, which is expected given it's a remake. A mere different artistic vision. As for her appearance, it's just... different. Not particularly better or worse imo. What the original DID do better was the Leave ending. Now that was way more emotionally impactful there than in the remake Tl;dr They handled Angela just fine, just took a different directional approach.
Angela got the treatment Eddie got instead of a weird deaf sounding woman it's genuinely like a enomtinal young woman who's been brutalliest and horirbly raped by this monster of a father we never see him yet judging by the way abstract daddy headbutts James and roars he could have been monstrous and sounded ironically and symbolicly like a pig 😢
The tone has changed a lot. In the original, Angela is aggressive, emotionally unpredictable, and paranoid. In this remake, Angela is dissociated, devoid of energy, fatigued, depressed, and resigned. A very different approach. In the staircase scene especially, Angela is more like, "Whatever, I'll find another way..." opposed to, "You can't stop me!!," in the original. Both are lovely. :)
And both approaches have merit.
@@nekusakura6748exactly both are definitely valid responses to this sort of trauma
@@EstesPark-kd6ptabsolutely. Ive worked with survivors and both are totally realistic portrayals.
Always haunting when she states "for me it's always like this."
The glimpse into her painfully intense and unsafe world is enough to give me goosebumps.
So fucking sad
The fact James can feel what Angela facing too, they are like same
1:41 I love how her voice tone shifts from “my mama, I mean my mother” love Angela, such a tragic character
*his voice
@@MONO-97 yeah you can feel she was forced to grow up way to fast
@benq3009 are you restarted?
@@F13FAR0Brother c'mon 😭
@@benq3009 Retarded incel alert.
Im surprised by how much i like the voice acting. It's still very stilted, but feels a little more natural way for someone who has semi functionally adapted to sever psychological stress. The only thing I'm less keen on is the staircase scene. I really quite liked the mood swings, mocking, amd bitterness of the original delivery.
I do still just want to give her a big hug (that preferably wouldn't traumatise her) and tell her it'll be okay
It's how people in a severe depressive episode actually talk in real life. Believe me.
“I’m sorry Angela. I think you were right… what we’re looking is not her. Not anymore…”
Fucking hell I love that new line from James.
Silent Hill doesn't offer what we most long for
It just acts as a mirror for our own broken minds
I really like 9:22, something they never touched in the original. James asks Angela if she's seen Laura, and since the player obviously knows it's innocuous, Angela being in Silent Hill buried in so much trauma thinks that he's a predator. It answer questions while still staying true to the original.
That scene is a hit, and her "no please" is very sad
Dude! She doesn't think that he's a predator, it triggers angela when he said little girl as she is still a little girl when she was abused.
She must've remembered when she wqas always being told
"my little girl"
@@christianearlsabijon3430 by that logic james CAN become another abuser to her right? since angela doesn't know james
I don't think it means that she see james as a predator, particularly on that moment, i believe she saw her father on James, same with the stairs scene, she thought James was her mother for a moment
Also, Angela says "you shouldn't be here" looking besides James, she saw her father beside James
Its kinda funnily twisted how people were complaining that the sex abused traumatised victim doesnt look sexy in the remake 😵💫😅
Exactly. That's so messed up 🙁🙁
Maybe Angela was right.
“It’s always the same with you. You are only after one thing. Just say it.
… Or you could just force (read:mod) me.”
Nobody said about her supposed to be sexy. Just to not have a weird face. A more aesthetically nice one. Maria is the one that has to be sexy
@lowhp_comic Because they're not gamers, they're porn addicts.
Yeah it's so messed up and disgusting
9:25 i dunno if it checks out, but as soon as James says "little girl" and it triggers Angela to see her father besides him I swear i can hear burning sounds in the background.
I can definitely hear it as well, And it plays while the camera is on her face
that's the sound of the wing blowing combined with the sound of the leaves, since they are outside.
Yeah, the way she turns her head like she sees something.
When James tales the directors box, he feels watchend from behind him and turns back, u can see it with freecam
I played the OG for 5x, i know what to expect on each scene.
But i legit cried when angela broke down during her line "or you could just force me, like he always did". The change of mood from tension and anger to depression and sadness...it was just too much.
Bloober Team, hats off to you.
As someone with a similar experience with abuse, the scene make me shed a tears. The way she broke down makes me want to just hug her and tell her that she’s out of that living hell
Love the emotions and the subtle signs of melancholic depression, this is how you portray an abuse victim
I think new Angela's voice acting does a great job keeping the weird uncanny delivery of her lines.
Best voice acting ive ever seen in any game/movie
You know what? As a man, i think that maybe angela WAS right. Like seriously, heres a character who has been s*xually abused for all her life and yet all yall can think of is why shes not hot enough???
I’m glad you get it.
well said brother .... exactly my thoughts
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It was so fucked up. People calling the game Woke because they cannot see Angela as sexy enough to be assaulted. These people are just fucked in the head.
So much that she has to wear big clothes that cover up most of her body in order prevent "sending the wrong signals".
My heart breaks when she says "I'm looking for my mama". Just brings tears to my eyes every time.
Like it shows she is still so young and had to grow up way to fast, because of all the stuff her father (and later her brother) did to her
Actress did an incredible job blending emotion, stiltedness, and natural speaking. That's no easy feat. The facial animations and cinematic direction were exceptional as well. I think the only scene I feel more strongly about over the remake is the staircase scene for two simple reasons and they have to do with camera direction. The slow profile pan up the stairs with James hanging his head in shame and the shot of Angela speaking directly into the camera like she's talking to the player.
As for the performance in that scene, it seems like they took a different direction. Instead of her sort of berating/being manic, she's less aggressive but still accusatory. I think this may be in part due to the way they wanted to represent someone who has been abused (less like a manic charicature). Purely speculation though. All in all, loved it.
Original VA was better overall. The Remake VA delivery on her lines was wooden at times, especially the cemetery introduction. She got better in the knife and the abstract daddy scene but fell flat on Angela's final scene.
I agree about the hanging his head in shame part, it should have been there. It was very communicative in a non-verbal way. Shame. The rest is on point I guess
@@johnathanross6519 Don't be ridiculous
That's just objectively wrong. The remake Angela sounds EXTREMELY loud and obnoxious. Every scene she's in she has that drunk-raspy grainy man-voice that's like three times louder than James' voice. This plump-faced abomination is an insult to the original game, and a perfect example of some woke self-insertion by some fat virgin developer. The original Angela was thin and pale after years of suicidal depression and bordering on the edge of going through with it. Most importantly: Her voice perfectly depicted her mental state of basically having "given up" on life. This new obnoxious woke failure is just another example of how they want to appeal to the small amount of quirky, ugly, unfit misfits so they can go "omg i'm her" for a little while, before they go on their pronoun in bio twitter profile and tweet about how relatable and awesome the game is. Sincerely: People like you don't know what the Hell you're talking about. You don't know how symbolism works, you can't spot a good metaphor from a mile away, and your entire comment is an embaressment.
You should see the original then. I can't stand the voice of this new one, not to mention the awkward, disproportional plump-face. This is definitely a DEI self insert, because her entire face is so out of place now. And her last scene in the burning stairs she has the most RASPY, GRAINY VOICE EVER! It's disturbingly obnoxious. They absolutely butchered the original Angela in the remake. As someone who is balls deep in the metaphors and symbolism of the first one I can't stand what they did to such a complex character as the OG Angela...
Angela actually looks and sounds her age now but still with aging stress. Love it
Sorry but as someone that has been mesmerised by the original game even before its official release, Bloober absolutely nailed Angela’s portrayal and handled its themes delicately while adding so much more depth to the original via new dialogue and incredible voice acting. This is better than the original.
The original Silent Hill 2 is a masterpiece obviously, and it's one of my favorite games of all time. But, I love BT's take on Angela. She looks like a ninteen-year-old, but one who's been through hell. The way she talks, the way she carries herself, her disassociating, it all matches so much with people who harbor trauma like hers and go through life without processing it properly. Well done, BT!
Completely agree with you, i have an undying respect to the Original Silent Hill; but the take on Laura's character is quite good. Specially the Staircase scene.-
Just my opinion tho.-
The modern audience has arrived
The gooner has arrived
She looks nothing like 19 bruh what
Shes trash
Honestly I like this version of her.
I understand people not liking the VO work, but the whole "she's ugly" and "why isn't she attractive anymore" arguements gives me major goosebumps when its this character in question.
She isn't ugly, actually. And I think the voice acting is realistic.
She actually looks her age too - in the original I thought she was well in her 30's, maybe 40 even. She looks 'right' for a teenage girl (she's like 19) who's lived through absolute hell.
@@KaishaLouise she looks older here than the original.
@@juuchanIRLI don't particularly think so. I think the improved graphics give the illusion that she looks older, but in the original, she's clearly designed as a more mature woman. In here, she looks more realistic, but shes clearly designed as a younger person.
I'm totally could relate to her and strangely, able to predict what she'd do next. She's definitely resonated with me more in this version. Maybe I've had a similar trauma. IDK. It's just... fits.
The way that he says “I’m James..” so sad and worried. The level of emotions that this cinematic shows is awesome
Poor girl... she deserved better...
I think this new interpretation of the character is really great. She seems like a very very damaged person. Someone who has a really hard time acting "normal" and engaging in normal conversation. And also very unpredictable, like you can NEVER tell how she will react, really scary. A pretty dann good example of mental illness. In other modern media, mental illness, especially in young women, is often shown as some kind of quirk. Here, it gets shown as what it is, a terrible burden, and, in this Case, a hopeless situation. Pretty bold, actually.
Now that they've come this far, I feel like the studio should make a short DLC from Angela's perspective. I'd love to see what her version of SH looks like from the moment she meets us in the graveyard
Considering her trauma, I imagine it would be too much to depict even in the form of symbolism
That "Happy to see ME?" is so damn sad man.
I absolutely agree, it's something someone has never told her before, and it shows in that scene.
It added more to Angela's Character. I don't remember this scene in the Original game
The actress honestly did such an amazing job
Made me tear up every time she was on screen
Trash voice acting compared to the OG
@@greatestnitemare6626take off those damn nostalgia glasses off friend
@@lanascherryflvrduche I did. OG is superior
Ok boomer @@greatestnitemare6626
@@greatestnitemare6626I’m a newcomer to all this so no nostalgia whatsoever, and I think the remake very clearly has better performances. The standards for acting in video games is just higher now than it was back then.
I came in completely blind to this game. The narrative was completely obtuse for most of this play time, but after finishing it and seeing the scope of its story it's impact has stayed with me for days. The mirror scene (and its score) was mesmerising, and that was the moment I knew this game was really special.
After some time to fully realise what I've experienced i'm in awe. Angela's story is the darkest and most impactful I can remember in a long while, and what it means for James' own story is not lost on me. It's too much for her to go on, and James not having the commitment to really give her what she needs to save her is so realistic that it hurts. This game addresses psychological demons in ways that no other game has ever come close to
What you said at the end is so true, they even added the detail that when you reach the save point after the staircase cutscene James looks away from the screen. He has been staring right into the eyes of the player for the entire game and right after that he looks away like he’s so ashamed of not being able to help Angela he can’t look at the player in the eye anymore
"For me is always like this''
That subtle shift in her expression after she asks for the knife is incredible. What a detail.
The fact that she sounds and looks younger makes it more distressing somehow. She seems more naive, but somehow, aware. The og gave a more messed up vibe but this gives me a more realistic approach vibe… which FOR ME, is more distressing.
The addition of that night time rosewater park scene for Angela was good. Helped keep her in the story a bit more than the original game where she just disappears for half the game.
I always wanted an "Angela" ending where you say yes to her question on the staircase and leave with her.
But James can't say yes. He can't just heal her.
@@Gan3eL he can fix her ,he can XD no he cant
@@sekiro7529 He can't.
@@Gan3eL sure, but he can leave with Maria, which it is implied will end in disaster. So you could have it as an ending even if it isn't going to work out.
I’m afraid there’s no fixing what’s wrong with Angela. The pain is just rooted too deep. She will never fully trust another man in her life ever again.
The disappointment in her voice when she says "That's what I thought", breathtaking
6:57
i really love this new scene. it explains a lot about Angela’s character. pay attention to James triggering words
“I’m HAPPY to see you”
“We stick TOGETHER we might get out of here”
“LITTLE GIRL”
She really sounds, looks and acts like a teenager now. A major improvement from the original. She looked and sounded like a 30-40 year old woman in the original
Angela's older, worn-out appearance in the original was intentional. It was supposed to show the toll her life had taken on her inside and out. I don't mind a more youthful looking Angela, as imho as it makes her seem almost too childlike. To the point where you can tell something is wrong with her at a glance. Since it's common for abuse victims to stay mentally 'stuck' at the age their abuse started, or regress to it under severe stress, it still fits with her trauma narrative. Like the rest of the remake it's different, but still great.
@@cherrycordiaI Thats a huge cope from og fanboy. Same with ''of course OG has bad and cringe voice acting bec it gives game more dream like feel''. LMAO u guys will come up with all the shit
@@sillylittlesheepjax6009says the remake fanboy shill 😂😂😂😂😂
It’s in the SH2 commentary you shill that Angela was purposely designed to look and sound older due to the emotional drama she endured.
GET OWNED. Take your own copium and snort it
@sillylittlesheepjax6009 making her seem older was an intentional choice in the casting and character design in the original as stated in the SH2 documentary back in 2002. Not that you even played it though 😢
@@sillylittlesheepjax6009 omg I agree so much with you XD like I can understand them, they grew up with Silent Hill but the voice acting is 1000x better in the remake. James OG voice is also so bad XDDD
Idk I still think she’s beautiful in this version . She has a homely look and you just want to protect her but also she gives off an unpredictable vibe
Angela chose the "In Fire" ending
LMAO
I guess, if James is Water and Angela is Fire, then Eddie is absolutely Wind
@@IuriiPlevakoNah, In Ice for him, since his Silent Hill seems to be colder
@@wolfywonder8480 I'll have to disappoint you, but ice is the same element as Water
@@IuriiPlevakoIt's not ice but cold for Eddie,his world is cold and cruel
When Angela asked “happy to see me ?” I wonder how things would’ve turned out if James said yes. Mabye for once Angela would have felt wanted and cared for in good way and would have decided to live.
she is so cute i love her with all of my heart she makes me so sad they made her perfect in every way i'm so incredibly happy with the remake i can't believe how much love it was made with for the story the game and the characters
You seriously need to learn how to punctuate your sentences.
I love how she almost looks excited when asks James "Are you afraid?". It's like the strong, confident and confrontational side of her slips out for a second. Every actor in this game is just perfect!
I don't get how some people claim she's ugly... like, in the original model she looked much older than she's supposed to be. Here she looks young, her cheeks are more puffed like that of a baby or a cherub. She looks delicate, but her chainsmoker voice contrasts the look heavily. I understand potential complaints about the VA... but the model? It's perfect.
She is faht as shihh, lookin like Farquad ate a bowl of bees.
Chain smoker voice? Where did you pull that from...?
9:22 "Have you seen a little girl? Just turned 7 last month? Short, black hair?"
Harry Mason vibes
I would like to see a DLC with Angela while she was in Silent Hill. They could do so much with her character!
Also with Eddie
I wholeheartedly agree with this but the only issue I have is with how are they going to handle her as good as it was handled from James’s perspective, how does her hell translate into silent hill and shape the areas around her other than what we already know, and I just worry how her writing will be handled since all the scenes are based off the original with minimal differences,I think all the characters deserve a dlc just like how Maria had born from a wish but creating new material is going to be challenging and I hope if they ever do decide to make them I hope they treat her story with the respect it deserves
I'd rather look at what will she do after the main events. Will she just give up or maybe try to leave?
I mean, originally, SH2 was supposed to have alternating protags. Angela and Eddie were supposed to be the other two. Seeing that fully realized with campaigns for them would be interesting!
@@ScorchtheHawk do you have the source for that that sounds interesting
9:37 has anybody realized there’s another step sound in the background, angela and james notices it too, when she says “you shouldn’t be here” she’s not talking to James but somebody hiding somewhere that only she’s able to see, thats why James gets confused and gets near her
What a tragic character. She's barely a husk of a human being. Devoid of all emotions except anger and despair. Terrific performance by the voice actress.
Fan or Hater?
@@DinossaurodaAmazonia “Terrific” usually has a positive connotation
I can't stop thinking about this game. It's been weeks, and it keeps randomly popping into my brain. As someone who has experienced mental illness, this story resonated with me in a way that no other game has. And I can't stop thinking about it.
I love how Angela doesn't let James touch her because of her past.
15:29 Amazing voice acting. You can hear James choking up when he says this. It really adds more humanity to his character
Literally all Angela cutscenes have the best soundtracks of the game.
I wish an extra scene each for Eddie and Angela could be added which would answer whatever loophole was present in their respective stories in original game.
What loophole are you referring to, btw?
@@DearAnem0ia I dunno, for example Eddie explaining how he did meet Laura or when asked where are her parents, Eddie would not have an answer for that question, giving James an idea she is an orphan or ran away on her own from her family to Silent Hill.
I know, a topic I wrote is more about Laura than Eddie.
@@maksymilianziele28 Thats not what a loophole is
James Sunderland being soft with Angela and physically blocks her from leaving on multiple occasions, yet is uncomfortable with Maria being forward with him. 🤔
Basically, James was acting as an impromptu dad with Angela. With Maria, it shows that James is, in fact, still in love with Mary (despite the fact that he killed her out of being tired of watching his sick wife).
He never physically blocks her, like ever. He only ever tries to reassure her and console her thats literally it
James doesn't block her he just tries to calm or be reassuring.
James just cannot stop trying to touch Angela
But I mean bro how could he have known she was Sa’ed however he did try multiple times i would’ve stopped the first time
In this version he at least stops trying to touch her after the scene in Rosewater park.
It's interesting how Angela says James sees the fire and she says it's always like this for her. That would explain why you don't see her with a torchlight and she's walking around in the dark. Because she has fire surrounding her and it's helping her see in the darkness.
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Man they did such a good job smoothing out the parts of the original that were poorly rendered while still maintaining the emotional and dramatic tension/awkwardness of these characters. I believe in Angela's story more in this version. The voice actress really brings across the depression and anxiety that someone in her position would feel.
The way she talks is so interesting.
Angela its one of the best characters on all videogames, her story its so tragic and dark
As a big fan of SH2 I must admit that I love how SH 2 fans always act like the OG was an untouched masterpiece and they refuses to see it without the nostalgia blinding them. Classic characters are almost all James.
• Angela was James with black wig and female body.
• Maria was James with blonde wig and female body.
• Laura was James with blonde wig and child body.
And of course, they always take this nonsense of thinking every pixel of the OG game had a meaning and a soul, but the real fact is they did what was possible due to the ps2 limitations. If you keep looking to something you can find a lot of meaning even in a blank space, but it doesn't mean it was made to have a meaning itself.
And let's not forget about the goofy voice acting due to the past VA not taking game so serious when it comes to give characters a propper personality.
Aand yeah, also Eddie being one of the most ridiculous bosses from horror games, we literally have to hit his head with a pipe while he runs in the funniest way possible.
Silent Hill 2 is my favorite and I loved this remake so much. I wish my back in the day child could see it in 2006 when i first played og. But I am so excited for SH1 Remake. Fans are waay more mature and reasonable. And even way less toxic than the majority of SH2 fans.
I agree that the OG staircase scene had its own merits, but the new one just legit made me cry.
I recently rediscovered this Character after actually semi dating someone who reminded me of her so much that i got goosebumps from watching these clips
I don t know why but a lot of people have been complaining about her new design because they think she looks more fat or something like that
The weird thing is that she actually resembles the girl i dated a lot more now and yes she was also sexually abused in her past... Even her voice sounds a lot more like the woman i knew
Wow
The people complaining about her appearance should be put on a list, genuinely.
Dude same here actually. I had a roommate that I would hang out with and she looked and sounded quite similar to the new Angela. We never hooked up tho so idk if she was abused 😬
@@Heycoolyo It feels so strange doesn't it? Me and her even parted on bad terms too and some even said she wasn't being particularly nice to me etc and yet somehow i feel more empathy towards her than anyone else ever did
And sometimes i look up these angela cutscenes and think about her
La escena de las escaleras es incluso mas devastadora en este Remake. La forma en que James y Angela comprenden el infierno del otro es algo que no estaba en el juego original
Antes te podias quedar viendola subir las escaleras hasta que desaparecia entre las flamas. Ahora James simplemente se va y cierra la puerta, aceptando el destino de Angela y el suyo propio.
The original stair scene was better and very emotional. Messed me up when I realized Angela was burning in hell the entire time and she did nothing wrong.
Agreed! Maybe they got abused as-d young lady image on her better with the voice, appearance and acting, but it will never compare with delusional and dissociative form of original, where the voice active might been a bit histrionic but it was what made silent hill a real mind breaking horror.
Tragic as her character was, she's still a murderer.
Unfortunately, she never got over her own guilt, even if she didn't do anything wrong. In the end, the town let it consume her.
@@pop_rblgyn Angela is the farthest from histrionic. Did you mean 'hysterical'?
i think by your own admission there you have a bias by already knowing what it represented in the original.
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0:24 0:43 ah! I see!
That's explained a lot.
Yeah. She already knew this town curse.. she wasnt like James or Eddie which come to pay for their retribution
So for her, everything is up in flames from the very beginning. So peaceful for us, So Hellacious for her. Crazy to consider IMO.
My dearlyn Angela what they did to You? You are just trying your Best with the life that been given
You are just an angel with a broken soul betrayed by people who should have given you love.
But what You can do when the monsters are there, in the time when You are jougest and the Home can not left
Surrounded by fear, violence and pain, your life it's a prisión that your mind could not scape
Oh My dear Angela there left no hope in your heart but the suffering that You ended by yourself
Who could imagine your fateful end, I wish I hadn't left you alone with the pain
She's a 2D videogame character like lil bro😭
@@JB-uu2ht We know that lil bro
@@JB-uu2ht i just realize how easily they play with My feelings
Its so interesting that with everything Angela has been through and how young she is that she's the one most based in reality. She is the first to call James out on his hypocrisy and bullshit with Mary. "Admit it, you didnt want her around anymore. Probably found aomeone else?"
As a first time silent hill 2 player, I’ll say I do prefer 100% the remake Angela, or well all characters acting in general, is just….. better
James is like 100% better than og one, actually James VA should get some nominations this year for sure
Its a hit or miss, sometimes her dialouge is awful at times (mirror scene), but the new scene is really a hit and very sad
It's decent but I prefer original.
@@DeezBaeNaeNae maybe you have cognitive impairments, maybe you're intellectually deficient
Name of the song al 12:00 pls
It's a shame we lost the pistons in the remake. It was such a subtle yet obvious acknowledgement of what happened to Angela.
I wouldn't say subtle, I think that imagery is strong and maybe too strong for potential survivors of similar experiences imo :)
@@Blthzethat supposed to be the point though, and for most people who played the original they didn’t even understand what that was it even was.
@@thesilentsociety3252 what do you mean that's supposed to be the point? It's not hard to understand what happened to Angela without the pistons
We didn't lose the pistons...they are in the remake. Have you seen the actual boss fight sequence?
@@stephluvvsyou Nope, still waiting for my game to be delivered, I'm just watching some clips here and there.
I love SH2 OG so much but i have to admit that the VA in SH2R is much better, show us more emotion of the character. I dont know why and how some people shit on it for no good reason at all.
true
I played the original back in 2001. Angela is one of the most tragic and moving characters I've encountered. I sometimes wish they they had touched upon the nature of the afterlife within the Silent Hill universe. Enough to know if characters like Angela and Alessa were at peace.
Hopefully they'll be a dlc where you play as her and can escape silent hill. I personally wish you could've saved her in the main game.
I kinda hoped in the remake there was a ending where we couldve helped her in some way
I wish the music in the game was louder. A big part of the game was the soundtrack. The dialogue was a compliment to the music I feel.
well its at like 50% here
I mean you can change your settings 😂
@@Edge9404 yeah but is it still gonna be as overpowering as it was in the original
@@aegontargaryensixthofhisname I fucking hate silent hill fans.
@@aegontargaryensixthofhisnameWell if it was at 50% probably
Remember all the fuss over her first appearance? Yeah, where's that now? Mfs got unreasonably mad over a bunch of frames and where are they now? This "anti woke gamers" trend is a plague upon the earth
I've seen many corn (if you know you know what corn should be) rotten brains "fixing" her.
Meaning they give her spine breaking breasts, removing her clothes and giving her skimpy ones and all the other thing a cornstar has.
Like what a way to disrespect a caracter like this, she has suffered enough. The anti-woke group is a complete joke for saying their "fixed" Angela is the Angela they deserve.
to be honest, with all the new ac and dustborn, i can understand "anti woke" gamers, but this time i disagree with them, this angela is really good, not perfect but very good
@@buryingbrightness ive seen so many 🌽 rotbrains having "fixed" her like come on, the anti-woke crowd is just a joke this point now
I'd rather blame Konami and their poor marketing for that, honestly.
The first time they showed Angela, she appeared as cute childish pumpkin that's well fed and loved by her grandma, instead of what her character really is. I can easily see how that caused the whole controversy around her among the fans of the OG game.
While Bloober Team were delivering solid product, Konami completely botched its presentation
Woke is a plague to gaming
The soundtrack of this game is mesmerising
The voice actor is incredible for Angela in the remake. Such awesome speach pattern choices and awesome emotion in the performance. She nailed it.
The remake performances lost a bit of the lynchian quality, but they did a great job either way.
In the Abstract Daddy stage, is it possible James couldn't see the l flesh walls, thrusting machines and broken fans since it's supposed to be Angela's otherworld and only visible only to her and us players?
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The way angela says "I can finally rest now"
That line alone just seems odd, as well as why she was looking for her mother in a graveyard of all places when we first meet her..
Why would anyone search for someone presumably alive in a graveyard's tombstone..
She’s there for roughly the same reason James is there sooo…
@@aswangmonkey361 Sure both are looking for people, but isn't extremely odd that her search would start at the final resting place for all. What's more telling that line she spoke at the end. It's like she was never alive to begin with, despite the empty graves we saw in the prison
where's the Angela family photo on the ground when James found her in room 109?
It's on the abstract daddy boss fight
This entire comment section is a goldmine of whiny manchilds crying on both sides of the spectrum lmao, if you enjoy the original that’s fine and if you enjoy the remake that is perfectly fine, why do you have to drag down the other and throw a fit like an actual child?
“Or you could just force me, like he always did"
Her story really affected me. Its really sad 😢
My heart breaks with this 😢
12:46 music name pleaseeee
Can’t take the park scene seriously after learning where the music is from.
What you mean?
@ It’s the same sample used in “Piglet’s Big Game”.
She is living a True horror saddnest charater in silent hill
She is so cute. But I feel a little guilty to thinking that she is cute due to what happened to her.
In the Historical Society, everyone sees their traumatic past moments.
James sees his life fall apart for three years and eventually kills his wife
Angela sees her father and relives when she was abused by him.
Eddie sees himself as a murderer which he felt like when he shot that bully.
Bruh the amount of people saying the original voice actors were so much better must have hard nostslgia blinders on. Given for what the time period was, the acting was decent but after experiencing both as someone who grew up with the games, this Angela and James are are the better of the two hands down.
Anyone else noticed that Angela's otherworld has large mirrors to force her to look at herself, when's she's ashamed of her self-image?
I personally don't agree with the idea that they made her 'uglier" or more importantly that they wrote her better in the original. It's more like they took a different approach with the same idea, which is expected given it's a remake. A mere different artistic vision. As for her appearance, it's just... different. Not particularly better or worse imo. What the original DID do better was the Leave ending. Now that was way more emotionally impactful there than in the remake
Tl;dr They handled Angela just fine, just took a different directional approach.
Denle un abrazo a Angela
She will kick back I think, honestly don't know how to deal with people who are abused to this level
Angela got the treatment Eddie got instead of a weird deaf sounding woman it's genuinely like a enomtinal young woman who's been brutalliest and horirbly raped by this monster of a father we never see him yet judging by the way abstract daddy headbutts James and roars he could have been monstrous and sounded ironically and symbolicly like a pig 😢
I expect an Angela DLC, i imagine Angela finding her mom as a boss merged with her father and brother, to finally dying together in the flames.
What is the track at 12:00?
9:24 silent hill 1 reference? :) "Have you seen a little girl?"
16:53 I hope this is in the soundtrack I love how it sounds
Man that goodbye from angela was so fuckin depressing. I wonder what her version of silent hill is.
It’s the flames at the end. Every part of her version is a literal flaming hellscape
And she probably sees Her father
And like Maria, he Always come back to Torment her
does anyone know the ost in 12:50 ?