This was such a valuable session mate thank you! Has helped massively, and I haven’t stopped thinking about that Darkspeed… another meeting due soon perhaps 👀🖤
Didn’t think they went hand and hand. Most old guys at my club swing very slow and are off single digit handicaps. Just because someone has speed doesn’t mean low handicap. He probably can’t do the scoring stuff like chip and putt. Also probably loses 10 balls a round
@@CharlotteK2008i am one of your old guys age 67, but i do speed work, stretching and swing plane exercises. If i want to maintain my low single figure handicap, need to hit irons into par 4’s, if I don’t keep the swing speed up, i need fairway wood or perhaps hybrid, reducing my greens in regulation. So unfortunately, yes swing speed reflects in handicap, albeit that you are right, it needs to be coupled with accuracy. I work harder on my fitness than i ever have, it pays dividends on rotation, distance and concentration.
Yeah they don't have to be linked, as you rightly say there are lots of older golfers who don't swing quick but do have good handicaps, but on the whole a graph of all golfers would show swing speed going up as handicap comes down. But golfers like Ash, who have a lot of speed but aren't low handicaps, having that much speed absolutely can certainly hinder scoring. As with that speed being consistently straight is very difficult.
Excellent video, informative and fun. Props to Ash for allowing himself to be filmed. Still amazed someone who drives the ball 75-100 yards further than me has same handicap !
This was extremely relatable. I am this guy but a little older with a slower swing speed. I started my golf journey with a big driver slice which over the years has become more of a gentle fade. I still fight it, trying to swing more in to out and setting my clubs up for draw bias, all of which just results in big pulls and low snap hooks. I keep aiming right and trying to visualise a draw flight that only occurs once in a blue moon. A good strike ends up fading into the right hand trees, a bad one hooks into the left hand trees. This is not working for me. After watching this video I am going to try setting my clubs for a more neutral bias, aiming slightly left, and allowing for my natural fade. Embrace the fade.
Thanks so much gents. Have been overdrawing the ball and needed to feel/try a different setup as a reset. Tried that fade setup at the range and while the results were mixed. It was great to see and feel a different ball flight 👍😀
your club fitting videos are fantastic. I've seen several others and maybe they edit more out of theirs but at face value it really appears that you're not just swapping the main three clubs. Youre changing weights and all kinds of stuff I don't understand on the screen. I'd have to go back through your videos to see if you already have but would you ever consider a tutorial on what all the stats/weights/numbers/etc. all mean when you show the new club you're having them swing and how they would contribute to someone with a harder or softer swing?
That’s the guy you want leading a fire brigade to break down a door of a burning building with a fire ax. Dude absolutely hammers it! I’d like to see him maybe set the club to ball position on the toe because he goes after it and, from the neutral set up, he’s hitting it off the heel.
Hahahaha brilliant comment 😂😂😂 you’re right, when I go for it I tend to throw my arms/hips forward and hit the heel. I do tend to put the ball just in front of the toe side rather than central, but need to work on consistent ball strike!
Hey Elite Golf studios, I just watched your video and I must say that it was really informative and well-made. I was wondering if I could help you edit your videos and repurpose your long videos into highly engaging shorts? I can also make high CTR thumbnails for your channel
Hi Ross - great content, really like the genuine focus on making it better not just selling new clubs. Gives me hope for fitting!! Although based in NW thinking of coming to see you to see if you can help me.. l m 50s left knee replacement and not feeling like I get 50% of what I should .. can you work miracles ??
Hey Neil, glad you enjoyed the content and thanks for supporting the channel 👍 well....I certainly can't guarantee I can work miracles, however.....I will try everything in my power to get the very best outcome for you from using every bit of equipment at my disposal and pairing that with my swing knowledge and tips. So if anyone can do something to help you, I'm confident it would be me. 👍
8:00 When the shoulders are coming through but then pause, the club head flips past and shuts down = double cross. Keep everything turning on those fades. The hands are the symptom, not the cause. It's like a car is pulling a skateboarder by a rope and then the car brakes, the skateboarder flies on past. When danger/lake is on the left, I turn the entire body hard and try to outrace the club. While he needed this great fitting, I think a big thing was educating him on ball flight laws. (club face/path/setup). Early in the video he said if he wants to hit a fade he puts the ball back in his stance. (misunderstanding).
Very well explained, thank you! This is something I’ve been working on, and Ross helped me with it in this session by showing me how to hold the hands off and keep them ahead of the club head. Now just need to keep practicing it!
Can't believe he's an 18! Take him in a scramble anytime! I'm a 7 and can't hit it out of my shadow anymore. I sure wish I had that firepower! On the plus side I don't miss many fairways because I can't hit it very far so it doesn't make to the rough!😂
Your point at the end is exactly correct. The issue with mid to higher handicaps that naturally have power and speed, while still having a slight lack of control over the club, means the miss is so much bigger than someone with less speed. So it's not really an advantage when you are off a higher handicap. As you say, if you miss then it doesn't miss big. If Ash misses then he's taking 3 off the tee, and it doesn't take much for that to happen a few times in a round. That score soon starts racking up! So yeah it's great but can certainly hinder the scorecard a lot too. They really need to put the time in with the driver to learn to control it.
I do love a scramble haha 🤣 HC is down to 16 now, partly due to this session! But Ross is right, if the driver is behaving on the day I can have a brilliant score. If not, I’m losing 3-4 balls off the tee that day 😅
Shouldnt the face be closed to the target and open to the path to produce a nice little fade? Or when you are saying closed do you mean closed to the path?
Question, since, sadly, I cannot easily stop by for a fitting…. I like my irons, g430, 2* up, +1/2”, dg120 shaft, sw D5. Any thoughts on which driver/shaft I could try? I have a gen5 pxg 10.5* driver with tensei blue stiff driver now. Using Bushnell Launch Pro: swing speed 97, I swing massively out to in (9-10*), carry ranges from 215-235, spin averages around 3500-4100. Heavier shaft? Higher swing weight? Thanks!
You need to neutralize your path while learning to close the face. Try feeling like your swing is going to 2 o’clock and closing the face (stronger grip). Realistically, a lesson is required over a new club
This guy just needs to join one of those wide open society friendly courses and he’ll be a single figure handicap. 160mph ball speed is not an 18 handicap. He just needs to play and work it out for himself
Absolutely he should be coming down pretty quick 👌 but every drive certainly won't be down the middle 😂 one issue with length is regardless of handicap you hit quite a few balls in trouble
Why not both? Plus I'd argue at the moment for Ash this is more important, as he can't get off the tee consistently without missing quite a lot of the time, and with his speed the miss is generally then hitting 3 off the tee. And if you can't get off the tee then you can't score. So getting this dialled and improved is super important. But this lesson has seemed to help him massively from his feedback so far as this was filmed 3/4 weeks ago....
The course I mainly play is quite narrow so if I miss the fairway, I’m usually in trouble, and you never know what lie you’re going to get… short game is getting there! Just need to hit more fairways and I’ll usually score well 😄
Wow. 302 in the fairway with a heel strike. This guy has plenty of speed and ought to be playing off a mid single figure hdcp. And he seems to know a lot about what affects his swing. Wouldn't want to get into a bet with him. At 18 hdcp he's a sandbagger who will relieve you of your pounds and shillings. 🤣
Always have a laugh when I hear 18 or so handicappers trying to hit fades and draws. Just fecking learn to hit it straight consistently and use the right club at the right time
I agree to a certain extent, however it's very hard to hit a straight shot every time, especially when you have a reasonable amount of speed. So learning to hit one specific shot off the tee and play that every time is going to be a better bet than always aiming down the middle and hoping you deliver a square path and face to path. That's very hard to do.
I agree. However we all have a fairly natural shot shape. Surely it’s a priority to understand and replicate that and to play for it. Especially high handicap players
@@GrahamTurnbull-tg1hk it really depends, there are so many variables everyone will be different in terms of the best route to take. But yes figuring it out is key
This was such a valuable session mate thank you! Has helped massively, and I haven’t stopped thinking about that Darkspeed… another meeting due soon perhaps 👀🖤
No worries mate glad it helped! 👌 And yes now we have Ping we can have a revisit and maybe do a DarkSpeed Vs Ping head to head 👀👀
Dude you bombed in that video. love how much speed you create in your swing. ++
Serious club speed for an 18 handicap
Didn’t think they went hand and hand. Most old guys at my club swing very slow and are off single digit handicaps. Just because someone has speed doesn’t mean low handicap. He probably can’t do the scoring stuff like chip and putt. Also probably loses 10 balls a round
@@CharlotteK2008i am one of your old guys age 67, but i do speed work, stretching and swing plane exercises. If i want to maintain my low single figure handicap, need to hit irons into par 4’s, if I don’t keep the swing speed up, i need fairway wood or perhaps hybrid, reducing my greens in regulation. So unfortunately, yes swing speed reflects in handicap, albeit that you are right, it needs to be coupled with accuracy. I work harder on my fitness than i ever have, it pays dividends on rotation, distance and concentration.
Yeah they don't have to be linked, as you rightly say there are lots of older golfers who don't swing quick but do have good handicaps, but on the whole a graph of all golfers would show swing speed going up as handicap comes down. But golfers like Ash, who have a lot of speed but aren't low handicaps, having that much speed absolutely can certainly hinder scoring. As with that speed being consistently straight is very difficult.
@@CharlotteK2008it’s probably not even the short game. It really never is. It’s the tee ball and the approach shot.
Excellent video, informative and fun. Props to Ash for allowing himself to be filmed. Still amazed someone who drives the ball 75-100 yards further than me has same handicap !
Cannot believe you dont have way more subscribers. Awesome content as usual
Thanks we appreciate that 🙌 hoping the subs will keep growing 👌
I keep saying this, but I love your channel. You make great content for us golf nerds. Cheers 🍻
@@Apeman_Actual thanks ape man glad you enjoy the content 👍👍
This was extremely relatable. I am this guy but a little older with a slower swing speed. I started my golf journey with a big driver slice which over the years has become more of a gentle fade. I still fight it, trying to swing more in to out and setting my clubs up for draw bias, all of which just results in big pulls and low snap hooks. I keep aiming right and trying to visualise a draw flight that only occurs once in a blue moon. A good strike ends up fading into the right hand trees, a bad one hooks into the left hand trees. This is not working for me. After watching this video I am going to try setting my clubs for a more neutral bias, aiming slightly left, and allowing for my natural fade. Embrace the fade.
Great video again and love the coaching and swing fixes you seem to explain tips so easy
Thanks Nelly 🙌👍
He’s a genius and very articulate with his advice! Tough to find someone this genuine and knowledgable
Great video, again! Think I need to commit to 1 shape….then I’m doing in and setting up a new bag
Absolutely, it really is tough to do but long term it really can make a huge difference! 🙌👌
Love your content. Very authentic and knowledgeable. Great stuff as always.
Thanks MrAce appreciate that 🙌🙌👍
Thanks so much gents. Have been overdrawing the ball and needed to feel/try a different setup as a reset. Tried that fade setup at the range and while the results were mixed. It was great to see and feel a different ball flight 👍😀
Awesome news man, glad it helped you too! Keep practicing it and you’ll see the results start to come 👊🏼
Hey Tim, no worries at all bud, happy it helped 👍
You definitely won't overdraw it with any Cobra LS😂. I had Ltd X LS and it went straight back. Just a fade machine, great for the hookers though!
Watching again. Nice vid mate. 😎
As mentioned, decent swing/ball speed for an 18 handicapper
Great video please keep them coming. They’re very informative
Thanks Chet will do 🙌👍
your club fitting videos are fantastic. I've seen several others and maybe they edit more out of theirs but at face value it really appears that you're not just swapping the main three clubs. Youre changing weights and all kinds of stuff I don't understand on the screen. I'd have to go back through your videos to see if you already have but would you ever consider a tutorial on what all the stats/weights/numbers/etc. all mean when you show the new club you're having them swing and how they would contribute to someone with a harder or softer swing?
That’s the guy you want leading a fire brigade to break down a door of a burning building with a fire ax. Dude absolutely hammers it! I’d like to see him maybe set the club to ball position on the toe because he goes after it and, from the neutral set up, he’s hitting it off the heel.
Hahahaha brilliant comment 😂😂😂 you’re right, when I go for it I tend to throw my arms/hips forward and hit the heel. I do tend to put the ball just in front of the toe side rather than central, but need to work on consistent ball strike!
Thank you!!
Hey Elite Golf studios, I just watched your video and I must say that it was really informative and well-made.
I was wondering if I could help you edit your videos and repurpose your long videos into highly engaging shorts? I can also make high CTR thumbnails for your channel
Been seeing a bit that the cobra LS seems great on a simulator and pretty wild dispersion wise out on the course
That will be far more down to the player than the driver
Hi Ross - great content, really like the genuine focus on making it better not just selling new clubs. Gives me hope for fitting!! Although based in NW thinking of coming to see you to see if you can help me.. l m 50s left knee replacement and not feeling like I get 50% of what I should .. can you work miracles ??
Hey Neil, glad you enjoyed the content and thanks for supporting the channel 👍 well....I certainly can't guarantee I can work miracles, however.....I will try everything in my power to get the very best outcome for you from using every bit of equipment at my disposal and pairing that with my swing knowledge and tips. So if anyone can do something to help you, I'm confident it would be me. 👍
@@epgolfstudiosI’m passing reasonably close in a couple of weeks so just booked in with you .. thanks
@@neilcooper8556 brilliant Neil looks forward to seeing you then 👍
I'm in the same area and looking for a driver. I'm looking at Clarke's, Scottsdale's, Tour X and Lytham.
Such a great fitter. I'm after a driver fitting myself but a 4 hour drive is a little too much.
8:00 When the shoulders are coming through but then pause, the club head flips past and shuts down = double cross. Keep everything turning on those fades. The hands are the symptom, not the cause. It's like a car is pulling a skateboarder by a rope and then the car brakes, the skateboarder flies on past. When danger/lake is on the left, I turn the entire body hard and try to outrace the club. While he needed this great fitting, I think a big thing was educating him on ball flight laws. (club face/path/setup). Early in the video he said if he wants to hit a fade he puts the ball back in his stance. (misunderstanding).
Very well explained, thank you! This is something I’ve been working on, and Ross helped me with it in this session by showing me how to hold the hands off and keep them ahead of the club head. Now just need to keep practicing it!
KA-effing-POW! 💥
I'm an 18 handicap and I carry driver about 170-180. Why do I never see short hitters like me, too embarrassed probably!
Can't believe he's an 18! Take him in a scramble anytime! I'm a 7 and can't hit it out of my shadow anymore. I sure wish I had that firepower! On the plus side I don't miss many fairways because I can't hit it very far so it doesn't make to the rough!😂
Your point at the end is exactly correct. The issue with mid to higher handicaps that naturally have power and speed, while still having a slight lack of control over the club, means the miss is so much bigger than someone with less speed. So it's not really an advantage when you are off a higher handicap. As you say, if you miss then it doesn't miss big. If Ash misses then he's taking 3 off the tee, and it doesn't take much for that to happen a few times in a round. That score soon starts racking up! So yeah it's great but can certainly hinder the scorecard a lot too. They really need to put the time in with the driver to learn to control it.
I do love a scramble haha 🤣 HC is down to 16 now, partly due to this session! But Ross is right, if the driver is behaving on the day I can have a brilliant score. If not, I’m losing 3-4 balls off the tee that day 😅
Preferring this channel to Club Champion these days. Thanks for the content.
Haven’t seen any lefties. 12 left yr with the traditional left miss
18hcp?! Is he putting with his shoe?
🤣🤣 yeah the putting needs work 😬
Shouldnt the face be closed to the target and open to the path to produce a nice little fade? Or when you are saying closed do you mean closed to the path?
Yeah I always talk face to path, so yeah absolutely right we want the face open to the path but closed to the target for a fade
similar to my shots.
'Its gone absolutely nowhere' at 280 carry 😂
I know 🙈🙈😂😂😂
Would love that distance, I'm getting 230 with 100mph club head speed and feel I'm short changed haha. Great video
The 2 way miss is mostly mental, the ball only goes to where you dont want it to go😂
When will the autoflex video be uploaded with the tsr3 head bud?
Tonight mate
@@epgolfstudios oh super. 👌
Question, since, sadly, I cannot easily stop by for a fitting….
I like my irons, g430, 2* up, +1/2”, dg120 shaft, sw D5.
Any thoughts on which driver/shaft I could try?
I have a gen5 pxg 10.5* driver with tensei blue stiff driver now.
Using Bushnell Launch Pro: swing speed 97, I swing massively out to in (9-10*), carry ranges from 215-235, spin averages around 3500-4100.
Heavier shaft? Higher swing weight?
Thanks!
You need to neutralize your path while learning to close the face. Try feeling like your swing is going to 2 o’clock and closing the face (stronger grip). Realistically, a lesson is required over a new club
@@Golf4LifeGrandview understand, however, I also believe that a heavier driver shaft would help as it has with my irons.
@@louispounds7486 I do believe your money would be better spent on a lesson. I’m a coach not a fitter. Good luck!
@@Golf4LifeGrandview I am taking lessons.👍 I am hoping for a bandaid In the interim to minimize penalty strokes off the tee.
He is thinking about alot. As you have said before. Just swing it .
This guy just needs to join one of those wide open society friendly courses and he’ll be a single figure handicap. 160mph ball speed is not an 18 handicap. He just needs to play and work it out for himself
Yeah the problem is a lot of the courses where especially round where we are are super tight. Can't get away with big misses
He won’t be 18HC long with your tips, and driver going down the middle every time with his distance
Absolutely he should be coming down pretty quick 👌 but every drive certainly won't be down the middle 😂 one issue with length is regardless of handicap you hit quite a few balls in trouble
Down to 16 since this fitting hahaha, slowly getting there!
Its not bad....294 carry, bro come on
😂😂😂 need to lower my expectations perhaps!!
Get that bad boy in the fairway and it's PGA distance bro, all the best
18 handicap with that length? Instead of a driver fitting, maybe short game lessons?
Why not both? Plus I'd argue at the moment for Ash this is more important, as he can't get off the tee consistently without missing quite a lot of the time, and with his speed the miss is generally then hitting 3 off the tee. And if you can't get off the tee then you can't score. So getting this dialled and improved is super important. But this lesson has seemed to help him massively from his feedback so far as this was filmed 3/4 weeks ago....
The course I mainly play is quite narrow so if I miss the fairway, I’m usually in trouble, and you never know what lie you’re going to get… short game is getting there! Just need to hit more fairways and I’ll usually score well 😄
Surprised you didn’t have him hit a G430…
Didn't have it at the time of filming ...
Great content as ever. Knowledgeable, patient and no hard sell. Fantastic service and prices. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻⛳️🏌🏻
Wow. 302 in the fairway with a heel strike. This guy has plenty of speed and ought to be playing off a mid single figure hdcp. And he seems to know a lot about what affects his swing. Wouldn't want to get into a bet with him. At 18 hdcp he's a sandbagger who will relieve you of your pounds and shillings. 🤣
Always have a laugh when I hear 18 or so handicappers trying to hit fades and draws. Just fecking learn to hit it straight consistently and use the right club at the right time
I agree to a certain extent, however it's very hard to hit a straight shot every time, especially when you have a reasonable amount of speed. So learning to hit one specific shot off the tee and play that every time is going to be a better bet than always aiming down the middle and hoping you deliver a square path and face to path. That's very hard to do.
I agree. However we all have a fairly natural shot shape. Surely it’s a priority to understand and replicate that and to play for it. Especially high handicap players
@@GrahamTurnbull-tg1hk it really depends, there are so many variables everyone will be different in terms of the best route to take. But yes figuring it out is key
Maybe my cynicism is being generated by the suspect 18 handicapper you are coaching🤔😂
Content wise great video mate. But man that bloke being such a „Mr. know it all“ ruined an otherwise great video.
Thanks bro 🤣🤣😅