No matter how old a Wadkin machine is they’re still superb bits of kit and I regard them as the “Rolls Royce” of woodworking machines! When our workshop is built we’ve got a Wadkin JTA disc/bobbin sander freshly painted ready to go in. No room for a Wadkin radial saw sadly. Great video as always, never boring.
Well passified! I'd been waiting for this one! Awesome. In a perfect world you'd have space for one of them to swing left and right for more versatility but maybe down the line.
Not boring at all, in fact very interesting. And as you say, not normally something that we get to see. I'd rather watch the set up video than the 'look at my new perfect shop' that often appear on YT. Thanks. Can't think of a new word but the old 'brace' works well enough?
The machine shop I did my training in had a Wadkin RAS . It was the first machine I was allowed to use. I loved the sound of the blade cutting. As it exits the timber it kind of 'zings'.
Lovely pair of saws, the engine crane is a handy piece of kit, just pulled a square head vertical block off the inside of a 1966 Danckaert 5 head moulder , owning to the fact that the cutters are bolted on to the block and could be changed in position without removing the block, it was well sized , with a lorry strap and the 2 ton engine crane and a crow bar got it shifted. Luckily the moulder is all cast, it must weigh in at around the 2 ton, which helped a lot.
Cheers Willie, they are lovely additions and work so well. Yeah the crane, or any for of assistance is vital with stuff like that. Thanks for sharing, i love it.
I could really use one of those, but will never have enough room. I came across one that was being auctioned off with various machines from a former boat yard. Sadly all the machines had to be moved within 48hrs of the end of the auction, I just couldn’t comply with that so didn’t bid. What a bargain it would have been though. It only made £360 including the auction fees. Perfect, well cared for condition too. The wooden boxes that came with it contained various spindle cutters and adjustable width dado blades. The attachments alone were worth three times what the CC made. Great video, always interesting 👌🏻
Cheers Mike, Id probably upset you if i told you what i paid for this one! I know my friends across the pond are very envious lol! The dado cutters are a thing of beauty
What about a ‘Brad of shaws’. I’m here all week!😆 Certainly not boring at all. Reminds me of when we had to set up our crosscut. Problem we had was that the concrete floor had been laid by Mr Magoo. 😵💫
Enjoyed the installation process. Good set up having duplicate saws to decrease downtime in changing tooling over and setting up. It does work, we used to have multiples of almost every machine at one time for that purpose and a workshop Jack Russel as well lol. He Knew when it was home time by us blowing ourselves down with the compressed air, he'd come over to get blown down too lol. Tony
@@BradshawJoineryHe got used to it and it liked it coz it was home time lol. He even opened deliveries, boxes of furniture fittings without a Stanley knife. Kick the box, he'd go mad and rip it to bits it twice as fast lol. Thanks Oliver for bringing these memories back. We didn't train him, he had more off than we did. Tony
Great saw, we have had one as our primary docker for around 20 years now. The only negative is the space required to house them. Ours is different to yours though, possibly newer model.
I love the pair together, I have just brought a cc2 and was lucky enough to get the cast iron table legs and stop bar with mine. I think they was an optional extra when purchased. You will need a bigger workshop soon.
It works great! Especially when short on shop space(as we all are) Nice one! Is that the Flip stop bar? This came with a 2.5m one, I completely forgot to add it to the video, its a lovely bit of kit, Ive not seen the front frame in person. Out of interest what do they sit the bench height at? Bit of a guess for me the first time round but its been about right to be honest.
This looks really massive. Over here in the US we scare up old 1950’s or 40’s DeWalt radial arm saws, that do all this in a much more compact space, plus have the ability to turn the saw parallel to the table, and parallel to the fence for rapidly ripping. Gotta look for the ones with the extra long arm if you need to cross cut more than 24”, but you can actually still buy saws of this quality from Original Saw.
@@benjaminallyn1200 Why on earth would you need SIXTY of them? Where do you Keep them all? I lucked out to find just one 3hp 3 phase from 1953 that can swing up to a 16” blade that is in like new condition. And the prior owner had added on a 3 phase inverter so it can be run off 220. I agree that having the table rigid to the arm makes it much easier to calibrate. You just use leveling feet to level the underside of the arm at 90 degrees in both directions, and then level the table top using an ordinary level to get a trammed blade height. About the only thing I had to do to mine to get it perfect after calibrating the blade to the arm, was to reposition the back edge of the main table so that I could calibrate the Out Rip measuring scale on the side of the arm so I can set up perfect width rips without having to measure with a tape or square. The 3 swappable table inserts behind the fence I cut to precisely 1”, 2” and 4” widths so I can extend my rip width up to 27” or any measure between by moving the fence back. I almost bought one of those really nice multilink Bosch mitersaws… until I actually got to use my friend’s and discovered how much wobble and slop even the nicest mitre saw has. But, since I don’t need my saw to be mobile, I opted for the 500 lb DeWalt. So much more precise.
Thanks Christopher, thats interesting! The DeWalt saws are over here too, they are not particularly popular, i guess because the likes of Wadkin and heavier made machines are readily available the lightweight dewalt isnt as comparable. You have to be really careful with a dewalt radial arm saw, they want to climb the cut all the time, this saw on the other hand is solid as a rock, takes whatever you throw at it and asks for more. The ripping funcionality of the Dewalt imo is not a good idea, throwing material directly at you and trying to lift it off the surface. I literally couldnt think of a worse design for ripping boards, i guess if you hadn't room for a rip saw then it'd do the job, the added turntable is another point for inacuracy aswell. ive used a dewalt, and they are totally different league saws. Good saws for a compact shop and better in that situation, but for out and out performance canny beat this IMO of course
@@BradshawJoinery Well, I gotta stand for my team… the yarn that DeWalt’ s “climb” the cut is a myth. The arm on the Old timey DeWalts is 3” or more tall precision machined cast iron. And unless the user has loosened the machined cast iron clamps holding the vertical steel tube, the tip of the arm of mine can not move half a mm. My DeWalt, with its built in table weighs in at over 500 lbs. And I can tip the entire machine by the end of the arm without it flexing. Its all cast iron and steel. ( I had a newer, cheaper radial arm years ago, and it DID tend to climb the cut, but all that did was jam the stock between the table and the blade, stalling the blade and tripping the motors breaker ). What the 1950’s DeWalts Do tend to do is PULL themselves thru the cut, but that is the same for any top cutting saw blade. The user just has to realize that they don’t have to so much as ‘pull’ the saw thru the cut, as manage the saw’s tendency to pull itself thru the cut. And I don’t know what you mean by the ripping throwing material at you. The blade rotates parallel to the fence for ripping. Any kickback is off to your left ( unlike a table saw that kicks back at the operator, and the dust chute is an elbow that you simply turn to face away from you at whatever orientation the saw has. The ability to precisely calibrate the saw means I have never seen mine kickback even once as its blade is perfectly plumb, perfectly parallel to the run of the arm, and when turned for ripping, perfectly parallel to the fence. I can rip 4’x8’ sheet goods lengthwise without issue and its easier to hold the large sheet tight to the fence than it is on my table saw, where I am standing at the end of the cut, rather than perpendicular to it. I have a pretty small shop. I got the DeWalt because it does so many different things in a very small space. But I had never even heard of a Wadkin before. They look pretty impressive, as well.
Fair enough, I only have experience of the lighter DeWalt saws, the green/orange and black yellow ones, I didn't mean clim as in actually climb, but more as you put it, very easily snagged in the timber through acceleration of the cut, it's just the style with the sliding head doesn't have the same controlled momentum of the CC, I've used wadkins that follow the same principle of the DeWalt with the overhead arm and saw trailing underneat and they are equally as "whippy" I'd have one if I had a small shop for sure, but the difference I'm trying to explain is that if I put a 5" square lump of oak on this saw, I could pull the handle and cut it without worry, with pretty much any other saw, I'd be working it into the cut, being very wary of it snagging or pinching. It really is a beast hence the size of it lol! Not as nice to use for smaller repeat light cuts I'll admit! Which direction are you feeding the material when ripping? So the blade is climb cutting or pushing against the blade? I've little experience of it
Wadkin had a factory trading as Wadkin Bursgreen until mid 1990s 1/2 mile from where I lived in N/E England & at its peak employed 350 people making woodworking machines & according to Google they are still much sort after & I just wondered how many parts for these the local lads still have stashed away saying "yer'll never kna when yer ganna need it 😆 "
Could do with a 5.5hp motor for a BRA. Bloody thing lasted 10 mins after how much grief to get, transport and install. 400+ for a rewind...almost as much as I paid for the saw
@@BradshawJoinery Nah, your CCs were both made in Wadkin's Green Lane works in Leicester. In the mid 1950s Wadkin bought Sagar-Bursgreen for Bursgreen's ability to design and build much cheaper machines at almost the same quality. Wadkin kept their top-of-the-line machine production at Leicester. For example, the top-of-the-line CC's stayed at Leicester while the smaller Wadkin CK's ras were subbed out to Bursgreen for a year or three, until replaced by the Wadkin-Bursgreen BRA. Incidently, your second CC was completed (and tested) in 1965, while your first one appears to have been built in 1972. Cheers, Vann.
Brilliant stuff as always Ollie, I think one of those saws would fill my whole workshop, iv managed to fit a festool KS60 E in there now so hopefully that will suffice for my crosscutting needs. Could you do a video talking about how you got started/what if any qualifications or apprenticeship you did to get to such a masterful level you are now?
Haha! yeah they arent the most compact things ever! Maybe on that video, Basically apprenticeship at a small traditional joinery, a very good one, that set me off witht he right work ethic and practices... then lots of research, dedication and jobs later.... i have pretty much taken on work i didnt know if i could achieve for 10 years, learning every step of the way.
Hope you enjoy your “ Harmony” of Wadkins, it would have been fun to call them a “Flock” but as there are only two perhaps that would have been pushing it a bit 😉 🤣😂🤣. Interesting film, Cheers👍😀
How many Wadkins are an extravagance? 😁 That could be a Blackadder quote Thanks Ollie I have been watching your videos for a while and put some of your techniques into practice while patching a rotten door over the weekend. The finished article looks good if I do say so myself 👍🏻
@@BradshawJoinery not big at all to be honest mate, only 15ft by 18ft but big enough for me to have some machines in there, I mainly do fitted furniture so don’t need a great deal
Haha Philip, literally the week after i bought this another one came up cheap.....Since this one has sat so long in the way in the barn i thought it best not to
They were designed for docking sling of rough sawn hardwood in a timber yard, and for severing limbs. They come from an age when worker safety mattered nought and the people using these would be 13/14 year old kids!! Stavros
Yeah beefy bits of kit! There are several variants of the crosscut saw. I assum this is more a Joiners shop model and the CD variant beign a more industrial cut off saw for such a timber yard. But im sure they would all do the same job none the less.
Lovely bits of kits , very jealous. I guess that in commercial shops these days they are not allowed as the spindle takes to long to stop. Electronic brake was probably not a consideration when they were made.
Cheers Rodger. Im sure they could be fitted to modern regs. this came out of a big manufacturing shop. It will stop on the brake in the required time and guarding could be added! At the end of the day its for cutting wood, and if it can do that it can cut human
Lovely machines from the days when Britain was the workshop of the world, guess they went the way of Scammel Trucks and Myford Lathes - no inbuilt obsolescence.
Its a complete different kettle of fish. Mitres saws are great for mitres, but accuracy, ease of use, stirdyness, and most notable speed. You leave these runnign lob your timber on and wham its cut. For a start you wouldnt lob timber on a mitre saw. youd place it then slowly fire it up and make a progressive cut. This thing will cut 5" oak to a width of 650mm with relative ease. You can also do housings or dados accurately, set stops and do accurate cuts more easily, no flexing of the head, solid as a rock
Theres only one thing better than a Wadkin crosscut saw... TWO Wadkin crosscut saws !! 😂 Loving you work, man .. The important question is... do the ewes approve ? 🤨 From the Emerald Isle 😎👍☘🍺
Hi just watched this video and curious! Reading the comments Wadkin is highly rated but if the motor or bearings go on these CC can you still get them repaired!? I’m very tempted to get one rather than the dewalt RAS regards Mark
You could get the motors rewound but you have a big issue if the the crosscut roller bearings fail and they may well do on machines this old. They are special Wadkin items and I do not know anywhere that supplies them. This model machine has almost died out so demand has collapsed for the spares.
These saws are an example of engineering done to highest degree, no detail has been overlooked. With that don’t you think the look similar to Boba Fett headgear 😃
Its a complete different kettle of fish. Mitres saws are great for mitres, but accuracy, ease of use, sturdiness, and most notably speed. You leave these running lob your timber on and wham its cut. For a start you wouldnt lob timber on a mitre saw. youd place it then slowly fire it up and make a progressive cut. This thing will cut 5" oak to a width of 650mm with relative ease. You can also do housings or dados accurately, set stops and do accurate cuts more easily, no flexing of the head, solid as a rock. A mitre saw will do most of the tasks this will do and ok for a small shop, but for any sort of production you'd want a RAS
@@BradshawJoinery Thanks man. Really makes sense, I've seen a few in auction at good prices and been tempted but space is an issue. I have some other wadkin stuff and it is solid! Thanks for your videos, I have learnt a lot about machining wood. Its a journey in joinery !
I've just bought a really nice old Wadkin CC2 but for the life of me I can't see where the blade lock or stop is for a blade change, do you just use the nut on the brake end of the spindle? None of the literature mentions it either?? Any clues would be great. Thx, Rowland
Great video , I have the "cd" which doesn't tilt , there's a bit of setting up on them so glad to see someone else's approach. There is always the safety police commenting regarding these machines but I love them . They are incredibly intuitive to work with and I belive using negative tooth angle blades drastically reduce any climbing / running that are possible. Keep up the good work 👏
Cheers Kevin! Ive honestly never had it run away in a cut. I had a lump of 4" anout 2' wide oak pinch on the blade and it just took it and groaned. Do dramatic bang and tears!
So you can still change the blade OK in the original saw given the cover hindges open into the new one ?. Or do you just pivot the new one to the left for extra space .
@@BradshawJoinery people think that HSE regs do not apply if you are not employing people but some do, like PUWER. Depends on the mood of the inspector as to whether they prosecute. .
No matter how old a Wadkin machine is they’re still superb bits of kit and I regard them as the “Rolls Royce” of woodworking machines! When our workshop is built we’ve got a Wadkin JTA disc/bobbin sander freshly painted ready to go in. No room for a Wadkin radial saw sadly. Great video as always, never boring.
Lovely machines them Simon! I had a JV dual disc sander for a short while, Unfortunately didnt have the shop space to keep it!
Binged all your videos this weekend 😭
Love your attention to detail, makes me happy 🥰
Awesome! Thankyou very much
Well passified! I'd been waiting for this one! Awesome. In a perfect world you'd have space for one of them to swing left and right for more versatility but maybe down the line.
Haha I knew you'd be watching this one!!! I had some footage of the stops i forgot to add in! Ive literally just realised
@@BradshawJoinery I didn't realize you had sheep, now we know what your brother's up to when he's not on grinder. 🤭🤣🤫
Not boring at all, in fact very interesting. And as you say, not normally something that we get to see. I'd rather watch the set up video than the 'look at my new perfect shop' that often appear on YT. Thanks. Can't think of a new word but the old 'brace' works well enough?
Cheers for that! Its hard to gauge which videos will go down well. Some i believe hold absolute golden info have very few views. Really surprising
The machine shop I did my training in had a Wadkin RAS . It was the first machine I was allowed to use. I loved the sound of the blade cutting. As it exits the timber it kind of 'zings'.
Cheers Matt, yeah they are a lovely tool. Conficence inspiring compared to modern equivalent
Love these old saws I wish I had room in my shop for them. There beast love them.
Cheers Steve. Once youve got one, youll want two! aha
Hi Ollie
Great addition to your workshop mate isn’t it amazing when you want something in your workshop a space suddenly appears 😊😊
Hey Carl! Haha Yeah bloomin brilliant how the mind works!
CC2 - square ! Well done. Am sure that very creative use of this set-up will emerge.
Thankyou Jean-Pierre CE'Ce is quite a good name@
Lovely pair of saws, the engine crane is a handy piece of kit, just pulled a square head vertical block off the inside of a 1966 Danckaert 5 head moulder , owning to the fact that the cutters are bolted on to the block and could be changed in position without removing the block, it was well sized , with a lorry strap and the 2 ton engine crane and a crow bar got it shifted. Luckily the moulder is all cast, it must weigh in at around the 2 ton, which helped a lot.
Cheers Willie, they are lovely additions and work so well. Yeah the crane, or any for of assistance is vital with stuff like that. Thanks for sharing, i love it.
Great video,great set up !!!! well done
Thanks Michael!
Nice install/upgrade Lad, Chuffed on your behalf here in the States, well done!
Cheers Bo! Im Chuffed over this side too! :)
I could really use one of those, but will never have enough room.
I came across one that was being auctioned off with various machines from a former boat yard.
Sadly all the machines had to be moved within 48hrs of the end of the auction, I just couldn’t comply with that so didn’t bid. What a bargain it would have been though. It only made £360 including the auction fees. Perfect, well cared for condition too. The wooden boxes that came with it contained various spindle cutters and adjustable width dado blades. The attachments alone were worth three times what the CC made.
Great video, always interesting 👌🏻
Cheers Mike, Id probably upset you if i told you what i paid for this one! I know my friends across the pond are very envious lol! The dado cutters are a thing of beauty
This is fantastic after watching your other videos I've brought one of these on ebay it's arriving next Friday
Brilliant! They are great machines!
Mouse loooks great, nice Wadkin saw too.
Cheers! Yeah shes a beauty
So interesting and apposite. I fitted a new fence to my radial arm saw last week. Now all I need is for you to pop round and square it up for me 😂🌞
Haha But if youve fitted it Ray it'll surely be square already!! :)
What about a ‘Brad of shaws’. I’m here all week!😆 Certainly not boring at all. Reminds me of when we had to set up our crosscut. Problem we had was that the concrete floor had been laid by Mr Magoo. 😵💫
Haha! Put it alongside Wad'Twins and My suggestion of CECE sisters Lol at the floor. I had to put a new one in my Shop!
Nice job and set up, ..IMHO you won't go far wrong with Wadkin of that era.
Cheers Mark! No Unbelievable quality. The solid bronze components you just will never see on todays machines!
Sold a couple of these , lovely kit 🏴👍🏻🙋🏼♂️
Thanks Andrew, I admire your work! Ever done much with the lk drill?
@@BradshawJoinery sold a couple but they didn’t need refurbs 👍🏻🙋🏼♂️🏴
What a lovely pair of "Wadders" you’ve got there 😂 Definitely not boring, really interesting to watch, as are all your videos 🙂
Thankyou Neil! Very much appreciated! Pleased you enjoy :)
System setup is never boring thanks
Thanks for that Mark!
gorgeous equipment
Indeed! Cheers Marcus
Enjoyed the installation process. Good set up having duplicate saws to decrease downtime in changing tooling over and setting up.
It does work, we used to have multiples of almost every machine at one time for that purpose and a workshop Jack Russel as well lol.
He Knew when it was home time by us blowing ourselves down with the compressed air, he'd come over to get blown down too lol. Tony
Cheers Tony! Haha Sounds like a legend of a canine friend! Im not sure ours like the Airline that much! haha
@@BradshawJoineryHe got used to it and it liked it coz it was home time lol. He even opened deliveries, boxes of furniture fittings without a Stanley knife. Kick the box, he'd go mad and rip it to bits it twice as fast lol. Thanks Oliver for bringing these memories back. We didn't train him, he had more off than we did. Tony
Great saw, we have had one as our primary docker for around 20 years now. The only negative is the space required to house them. Ours is different to yours though, possibly newer model.
There are a few variants of cc and Cd's great tools
@BradshawJoinery No doubt. It's nice to see another Joinery shop using one. They are great machines.
Would the collective be " A waddle of Wadkins". Always interesting to see how workshops are designed/laid out.
Beat you a "waddle" of Wadkins by a day or so 😆
Haha Yes! An earlier coment also suggested wad'Twins haha! I might call them the Cece Sisters
I love the pair together, I have just brought a cc2 and was lucky enough to get the cast iron table legs and stop bar with mine. I think they was an optional extra when purchased. You will need a bigger workshop soon.
It works great! Especially when short on shop space(as we all are) Nice one! Is that the Flip stop bar? This came with a 2.5m one, I completely forgot to add it to the video, its a lovely bit of kit, Ive not seen the front frame in person. Out of interest what do they sit the bench height at? Bit of a guess for me the first time round but its been about right to be honest.
This looks really massive. Over here in the US we scare up old 1950’s or 40’s DeWalt radial arm saws, that do all this in a much more compact space, plus have the ability to turn the saw parallel to the table, and parallel to the fence for rapidly ripping. Gotta look for the ones with the extra long arm if you need to cross cut more than 24”, but you can actually still buy saws of this quality from Original Saw.
@@benjaminallyn1200 Why on earth would you need SIXTY of them? Where do you Keep them all? I lucked out to find just one 3hp 3 phase from 1953 that can swing up to a 16” blade that is in like new condition. And the prior owner had added on a 3 phase inverter so it can be run off 220. I agree that having the table rigid to the arm makes it much easier to calibrate. You just use leveling feet to level the underside of the arm at 90 degrees in both directions, and then level the table top using an ordinary level to get a trammed blade height. About the only thing I had to do to mine to get it perfect after calibrating the blade to the arm, was to reposition the back edge of the main table so that I could calibrate the Out Rip measuring scale on the side of the arm so I can set up perfect width rips without having to measure with a tape or square. The 3 swappable table inserts behind the fence I cut to precisely 1”, 2” and 4” widths so I can extend my rip width up to 27” or any measure between by moving the fence back.
I almost bought one of those really nice multilink Bosch mitersaws… until I actually got to use my friend’s and discovered how much wobble and slop even the nicest mitre saw has. But, since I don’t need my saw to be mobile, I opted for the 500 lb DeWalt. So much more precise.
Thanks Christopher, thats interesting! The DeWalt saws are over here too, they are not particularly popular, i guess because the likes of Wadkin and heavier made machines are readily available the lightweight dewalt isnt as comparable. You have to be really careful with a dewalt radial arm saw, they want to climb the cut all the time, this saw on the other hand is solid as a rock, takes whatever you throw at it and asks for more. The ripping funcionality of the Dewalt imo is not a good idea, throwing material directly at you and trying to lift it off the surface. I literally couldnt think of a worse design for ripping boards, i guess if you hadn't room for a rip saw then it'd do the job, the added turntable is another point for inacuracy aswell. ive used a dewalt, and they are totally different league saws. Good saws for a compact shop and better in that situation, but for out and out performance canny beat this IMO of course
@@BradshawJoinery Well, I gotta stand for my team… the yarn that DeWalt’ s “climb” the cut is a myth. The arm on the Old timey DeWalts is 3” or more tall precision machined cast iron. And unless the user has loosened the machined cast iron clamps holding the vertical steel tube, the tip of the arm of mine can not move half a mm. My DeWalt, with its built in table weighs in at over 500 lbs. And I can tip the entire machine by the end of the arm without it flexing. Its all cast iron and steel. ( I had a newer, cheaper radial arm years ago, and it DID tend to climb the cut, but all that did was jam the stock between the table and the blade, stalling the blade and tripping the motors breaker ). What the 1950’s DeWalts Do tend to do is PULL themselves thru the cut, but that is the same for any top cutting saw blade. The user just has to realize that they don’t have to so much as ‘pull’ the saw thru the cut, as manage the saw’s tendency to pull itself thru the cut.
And I don’t know what you mean by the ripping throwing material at you. The blade rotates parallel to the fence for ripping. Any kickback is off to your left ( unlike a table saw that kicks back at the operator, and the dust chute is an elbow that you simply turn to face away from you at whatever orientation the saw has. The ability to precisely calibrate the saw means I have never seen mine kickback even once as its blade is perfectly plumb, perfectly parallel to the run of the arm, and when turned for ripping, perfectly parallel to the fence. I can rip 4’x8’ sheet goods lengthwise without issue and its easier to hold the large sheet tight to the fence than it is on my table saw, where I am standing at the end of the cut, rather than perpendicular to it. I have a pretty small shop. I got the DeWalt because it does so many different things in a very small space. But I had never even heard of a Wadkin before. They look pretty impressive, as well.
Fair enough, I only have experience of the lighter DeWalt saws, the green/orange and black yellow ones, I didn't mean clim as in actually climb, but more as you put it, very easily snagged in the timber through acceleration of the cut, it's just the style with the sliding head doesn't have the same controlled momentum of the CC, I've used wadkins that follow the same principle of the DeWalt with the overhead arm and saw trailing underneat and they are equally as "whippy"
I'd have one if I had a small shop for sure, but the difference I'm trying to explain is that if I put a 5" square lump of oak on this saw, I could pull the handle and cut it without worry, with pretty much any other saw, I'd be working it into the cut, being very wary of it snagging or pinching. It really is a beast hence the size of it lol!
Not as nice to use for smaller repeat light cuts I'll admit!
Which direction are you feeding the material when ripping? So the blade is climb cutting or pushing against the blade? I've little experience of it
Excellent vid as per. Very informative. Get the Jack Russell in the vid’s too. Mine loves the workshop.
Cheers Craig, Shes my brothers dog, ill see if shes camera shy in the future lol
@@BradshawJoinery the videos would go off the charts with a dog in the shop for sure 🤘🏻
Wadkin had a factory trading as Wadkin Bursgreen until mid 1990s 1/2 mile from where I lived in N/E England & at its peak employed 350 people making woodworking machines & according to Google they are still much sort after & I just wondered how many parts for these the local lads still have stashed away saying "yer'll never kna when yer ganna need it 😆 "
Could do with a 5.5hp motor for a BRA. Bloody thing lasted 10 mins after how much grief to get, transport and install. 400+ for a rewind...almost as much as I paid for the saw
Thanks For that Normski! I had always thought they were all made in Leicester so its good info to know!
@@BradshawJoinery Nah, your CCs were both made in Wadkin's Green Lane works in Leicester.
In the mid 1950s Wadkin bought Sagar-Bursgreen for Bursgreen's ability to design and build much cheaper machines at almost the same quality. Wadkin kept their top-of-the-line machine production at Leicester.
For example, the top-of-the-line CC's stayed at Leicester while the smaller Wadkin CK's ras were subbed out to Bursgreen for a year or three, until replaced by the Wadkin-Bursgreen BRA.
Incidently, your second CC was completed (and tested) in 1965, while your first one appears to have been built in 1972.
Cheers, Vann.
Yes, Ccs were made in Leicester, not Durham.
Brilliant stuff as always Ollie, I think one of those saws would fill my whole workshop, iv managed to fit a festool KS60 E in there now so hopefully that will suffice for my crosscutting needs.
Could you do a video talking about how you got started/what if any qualifications or apprenticeship you did to get to such a masterful level you are now?
Haha! yeah they arent the most compact things ever! Maybe on that video, Basically apprenticeship at a small traditional joinery, a very good one, that set me off witht he right work ethic and practices... then lots of research, dedication and jobs later.... i have pretty much taken on work i didnt know if i could achieve for 10 years, learning every step of the way.
Hope you enjoy your “ Harmony” of Wadkins, it would have been fun to call them a “Flock” but as there are only two perhaps that would have been pushing it a bit 😉 🤣😂🤣. Interesting film, Cheers👍😀
Haha good one! They are in harmony to be fair! Thanks buddy
How many Wadkins are an extravagance? 😁 That could be a Blackadder quote
Thanks Ollie I have been watching your videos for a while and put some of your techniques into practice while patching a rotten door over the weekend. The finished article looks good if I do say so myself 👍🏻
Haha! Not got enough to be extravagant yet. Maybe a third would be pushing it. Thats Brilliant to hear. Cheers Doug! :)
I use Unistrut for many jobs at home and at work.
Cheers Lisa, Very handy isnt it!
Wadkin machines 👍 Fischer fixings 👍 Jack Russells 👍
Cheers Kev! :)
Great video mate, as you know I’m going to be setting up my workshop soon so all this is very handy 😂😂
Cheers Buddy! How big is the shop gonna be?
@@BradshawJoinery not big at all to be honest mate, only 15ft by 18ft but big enough for me to have some machines in there, I mainly do fitted furniture so don’t need a great deal
Nice one, mine is 9.5m X 8.5m looks bigger on camera than in person 🤣
@@BradshawJoinery they always do don’t they 😂😂
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A ‘brace’ of Wadkins (Wadders?). 3 saws would be a gaggle. Go on Ollie, buy another one 👍
Haha Philip, literally the week after i bought this another one came up cheap.....Since this one has sat so long in the way in the barn i thought it best not to
They were designed for docking sling of rough sawn hardwood in a timber yard, and for severing limbs.
They come from an age when worker safety mattered nought and the people using these would be 13/14 year old kids!!
Stavros
Yeah beefy bits of kit! There are several variants of the crosscut saw. I assum this is more a Joiners shop model and the CD variant beign a more industrial cut off saw for such a timber yard. But im sure they would all do the same job none the less.
Lovely bits of kits , very jealous.
I guess that in commercial shops these days they are not allowed as the spindle takes to long to stop.
Electronic brake was probably not a consideration when they were made.
Cheers Rodger. Im sure they could be fitted to modern regs. this came out of a big manufacturing shop. It will stop on the brake in the required time and guarding could be added! At the end of the day its for cutting wood, and if it can do that it can cut human
Pure beauty 😍😍😍😍💕💕💕💕
Cheers Paul, she sure is!
Lovely machines from the days when Britain was the workshop of the world, guess they went the way of Scammel Trucks and Myford Lathes - no inbuilt obsolescence.
Absolutley Unrivalled!!
Looks great. Can I ask what the main benefit of one of these crosscut saws is? say, vs a mitre saw. Is it just cutting capacity?
I would think definitely power and capacity, and the ability to add dado blades
Its a complete different kettle of fish. Mitres saws are great for mitres, but accuracy, ease of use, stirdyness, and most notable speed. You leave these runnign lob your timber on and wham its cut. For a start you wouldnt lob timber on a mitre saw. youd place it then slowly fire it up and make a progressive cut. This thing will cut 5" oak to a width of 650mm with relative ease.
You can also do housings or dados accurately, set stops and do accurate cuts more easily, no flexing of the head, solid as a rock
@@BradshawJoinery nice. Makes a lot of sense and compelling when put like that :)
Theres only one thing better than a Wadkin crosscut saw...
TWO Wadkin crosscut saws !! 😂
Loving you work, man ..
The important question is... do the ewes approve ? 🤨
From the Emerald Isle
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Thankyou!!! Yes the double setup is running a treat.
Don’t worry that was interesting.
Cheers Mat! thankyou
Hi just watched this video and curious! Reading the comments Wadkin is highly rated but if the motor or bearings go on these CC can you still get them repaired!? I’m very tempted to get one rather than the dewalt RAS regards Mark
You could get the motors rewound but you have a big issue if the the crosscut roller bearings fail and they may well do on machines this old. They are special Wadkin items and I do not know anywhere that supplies them. This model machine has almost died out so demand has collapsed for the spares.
we called these radial arm saws
Yeah thats the technical term for them but ive always called it the crosscut! Rolls off the tongue quicker haha
These saws are an example of engineering done to highest degree, no detail has been overlooked.
With that don’t you think the look similar to Boba Fett headgear 😃
Absolutley stunning pieces of kit! Yeah now its been mentioned i do see it haha
Lovely bits of kit but excuse the ignorance what is it better than a large sliding mitre saw? Is it just capacity?
Its a complete different kettle of fish. Mitres saws are great for mitres, but accuracy, ease of use, sturdiness, and most notably speed. You leave these running lob your timber on and wham its cut. For a start you wouldnt lob timber on a mitre saw. youd place it then slowly fire it up and make a progressive cut. This thing will cut 5" oak to a width of 650mm with relative ease.
You can also do housings or dados accurately, set stops and do accurate cuts more easily, no flexing of the head, solid as a rock. A mitre saw will do most of the tasks this will do and ok for a small shop, but for any sort of production you'd want a RAS
@@BradshawJoinery Thanks man. Really makes sense, I've seen a few in auction at good prices and been tempted but space is an issue. I have some other wadkin stuff and it is solid! Thanks for your videos, I have learnt a lot about machining wood. Its a journey in joinery !
I've just bought a really nice old Wadkin CC2 but for the life of me I can't see where the blade lock or stop is for a blade change, do you just use the nut on the brake end of the spindle? None of the literature mentions it either??
Any clues would be great.
Thx, Rowland
Put spanner on the nut, then hold the spindleabd turn blade and spanner fast until it hits the bench. The inertia will unlock the nut.
Did you know that's where StarWars got the design for Boba Fett from :-D
Haha! Brilliant, ill rename it boba
How old are the saws?
Collect Noun for a pair of Wadkin Cross Cut Saws: Envy, Lucky 🍀, or perhaps Awesome!
Haha cheers Mark, Yes i was tickled pink to both get the saw and manage to keep both!
What’s that measuring tape you’re using?
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You've got a"Waddle" of Wadkins.......
haha!!
If they was pidgins or quails, folk would say a brace of Watkins!!! Wots a working??
Stavros
Cheers Stavros! I like the woodworking link to "brace"
Based on your Test Numbers your CC's are 1965 & 1972
Thanks Nigel! Interesting. the older one being better conditon! haha
‘WadTwins’
Haha Brilliant!
Did you happen to study at Basford Hall in Nottingham quite a few years ago. Your face and name looks and sounds familiar.
Hi Colin, no thats not me i'm afraid! Some folk say i look like James Blunt and sound like George Russel llol
What would I be expected to pay for a saw in similar condition?
Anywhere from £100 to £2500 id say
probably between £250 £1200 , the old model are much cheaper than that late models like this one, also having the factory tables will increase value.
A gang of saws?
haha yeah! "The saw pack"
Twinkins 😉
Haha! Nice one! Goes alongside wad'Twins well!
Great video , I have the "cd" which doesn't tilt , there's a bit of setting up on them so glad to see someone else's approach.
There is always the safety police commenting regarding these machines but I love them . They are incredibly intuitive to work with and I belive using negative tooth angle blades drastically reduce any climbing / running that are possible.
Keep up the good work 👏
Cheers Kevin! Ive honestly never had it run away in a cut. I had a lump of 4" anout 2' wide oak pinch on the blade and it just took it and groaned. Do dramatic bang and tears!
could it be a rip of cross cut saws ????
Haha good shout!
Not sure about this... "A Wad of Kins".... just shows I didn't know they are from Leicester
I knew the leiceter connection but aparantly the bursgreen part is from up north! Every day is a school day
So you can still change the blade OK in the original saw given the cover hindges open into the new one ?. Or do you just pivot the new one to the left for extra space .
Eagle eyed Nicholas, simple as pulling the saw forward then opening the guard 👍
For this american, when you say the second saw is to "house it", what does that mean?
Making housings like in a door lining
The American term might be " rabbet for a door casing"
What about insurance .It may cost a lot to update it to current safety standards
Not so much of an issue when you work by yourself!
@@BradshawJoinery people think that HSE regs do not apply if you are not employing people but some do, like PUWER. Depends on the mood of the inspector as to whether they prosecute. .