Hey Ricky, love your videos... There are some important features you forgot to mention, like Resampling. Which takes any sample and reprocesses it through the (SP 1200) Analog filter Input circuits. You can also resample at 26khz 12 bit or 48 16bit or even re-pitch up like vinyl from 33rpm to 45rpm for added old school sampling crunch (for those that don't know). Full Midi 32 track Sequencer is now included with full MIDI MAP and MIDI CC control over VSTi in Ableton along with hardware synths, while then Slave syncing it to the ER-M MULTICLOCK in Ableton as the Master for recording. (PS: USB Audio bypasses SP1200 Filters on the 8 Outs). It also has an additional 8 Track Live Looper mode, it's the brain of the entire studio now and with latest OS, I have yet to find any major bugs. But they seem to release new OS updates and new features very often. Build wise, yeah apart from the Mute Solo Buttons, the unit should last you at least 25 years. a Tank! Hopefully they will add Conform to Musical Scales in the MIDI Sequencer soon with the next OS, along with the new Time Stretch.
I think this is the key - it's like buying a vintage sampler, you have to want the sound features bad enough to put up with quirks/workflow/whatever else you don't like.
Oh yeah, I wasn’t trying to do a complete crazy overview. And a lot of the features you mentioned are cool and very useful at times. I’m still getting to grips with this thing I just wanted to give a quick initial impression on how I would most likely use the machine. With most of the devices I use it’s not until the later stages where I really implement all these features to create new styles of music that are outside of what I usually do. This is an amazing list for anyone to check out though! I hope people do, and I’m going to pin your comment so that people can see it
@@RickyTinez Hi and thanks for sharing. How do you see the s2400 for live performances having it being the brain, drum machine- sampler, and using the looper and midi tracks to play synths and other instruments? I can see that the song mode lacks from programming capabilities, like more type of events and being able to send midi messages. Would you consider the octatrack better in this respect? Thanks for the help! I’ve been waiting 1 year now and really wondering if I should reconsider buying it.
so if you loaded a sample, say at 33 rpm from a record in, you can resampled to pitch it up and then slow it down to get that grit? wow that’s amazing, was thinking about just loading drum sounds into my mpc, pitching them up, and THEN sampling into the 2400. dope to here i can skip that process and do it all in the 2400!
Hey Ricky, Thanks for taking the time out to make this video, we're truly honoured. We're super proud that you and others have commented on the S2400's sound. That was always the impetus for making the machine. Everything else can grow and develop as we carve away at the creation of the OS. There are a few points I noticed in the video where there was some frustration on your side on how things might be expected to work., Some of which has been talked about prior to this video which we have already taken on board. Firmware updates, at our current rate, are released almost monthly, fixing bugs that are found and also adding more functionality to the machine as we progress and take on board all that you guys are saying. I hope to see more content from you on our baby as we all grow and develop with it, I'm envious of how gorgeous your camera shots are! Sorry we didn't get to meet again at knobcon this year was a bit too risky for me. Thanks again for taking the time out dude!
Yo thanks for the reply, im stoked to see where this machine goes. and its still on the desk cranking out some knocking drums. Also been exploring the Looper function lately which is badass! I'll keep my eyes on the forums for future updates.
this is shaping up to be an amazing machine. I can't wait for mine and I am so sorry people are being so terrible about the wait =/ I have seen your frustration on facebook
Bro, it's really time you revisited this machine. The last update was a game changer. This review is about a machine that's very different than what we have today.
Count me in as a s2400 fan who owns 2 units, has NO problems with his mute/solo buttons, and finds the heft to be equiv to the MPC3000 and quite lovely. In addition, the method in which you edit a particular track/channel using the A button and then Shift-A to write the change or "Modify", is well thought out. Why? Because it allows you to alter, audition back and forth, and then write the change should you decide. IMHO the s2400 is a simple and fast way to lay down your ideas in the crunchiest old school way possible. And the way it can USB to your computer and becaome a virtual external HDD is so efficient. I advise everyone to read the well thought-out review of the S2400 in Sound on Sound magazine.
@@ChrisP3000x Isla haven't advertised in Sound on Sound or anywhere else. Sometimes you just gotta trust the thousands of people that love the device. It's not a conspiracy.
@@station2station544 I just asked a very basic and obvious question. You implying that I am a conspiracy theorist for asking, makes me seriously question your motivations, and gives me a bad taste regarding this product. Just sayin'...
I watched this video and almost passed on a second hand S2400 at a good price because it just looked so confusing to use. I understand Ricky made this video very early on, and it looks like it was a bit harder to use. In September 2023 this is an excellent instrument. I have had it home a few hours and already got external clock inputs from SW SYNC working tight, am making kits, patterns, mults etc... The workflow is incredibly good.
You don’t need to override that way if you don’t want - you can set up override mode when recording like you did and press the pad when you want to implement it into the sequence - that allows you to overdub the setting just where you want it. Super fun to record filter changes but also level changes. The cool thing then is you can change the level slider as you hold down or press the pad while in override mode and it will put in different levels. Just FYI
I agree the workflow is different but now that I got into it I find it so easy and fast to get an idea down it’s ridiculous. Probably helps I never used an MPC .
@@gerardodominguez7726 for level it’s the ‘a’ button when you are recording and on the level menu and for filter it’s the ‘b’ button. You click those on while record is enabled and then when you push the pad it will encode that value you have selected at the time into the pattern and you will hear it at that level when you push it.
@@thomassynths I should come clean and say the only mixers I am absolutely sure use Sigma for sum in a musical context are the MakeNoise mixer modules.
This is correct. Sigma notation can be thought of like a “for loop” of sorts where repeat summing of terms needs to be written in a compact form. It is commonly encountered in Calculus 3 when working with infinite series but it absolutely applies to audio summing and also comes up in lens optics. Disclaimer: I don’t know about how DSP works. However, there are parallels between summing periodic functions like say sin waves both on a graphing calculator as well as when using a digital mixer doing linear summing. In other words when you have two sin waves that are in the same phase you will get amplitude gains both on a graph as well as in an actual audio mix (hence the need for headroom to mix audio)
One feature not mentioned in this review: 'midi input focus' - this is a game changer! Control external synths with a keyboard connected by USB (or midi) to the 2400. Switch between them by pressing 'A' above each track/pad, and MIDI is re-routed to the channel assigned to that pad. I have a different synth assigned to each pad and just press A to have the keyboard play & record notes with perfect timing in the S2400. This puts the 2400 firmly in the centre of my small rig. Nice touch and well thought out feature. With the highly active community on the forum, the team are listening and squashing bugs and making workflow improvements with regular firmware updates 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I’d love to see a follow up video once you spend more time and learn some new tricks that might improve the workflow and change some of your initial opinions on this.
Excellent Drum Machine/Sampler that will require some dedication to learn. I love the live looper and USB audio. It took me a week to get down and now its my main studio piece. Many more firmware updates will come and this thing will eventually be an incredible unit! Thanks for the review.
Finally got mine and have started playing with it today. I installed the newest firmware released on 10/1 which is a major upgrade & bug squasher. So far the unit sounds incredible and I really don't think the workflow is very cumbersome personally (Elektron boxes are way more strange / awkward than this imo as much as I love them). I hope you revisit this thing because there's a lot it can do & I do believe it blows many other current drum machine / samplers out of the water.
I get no love for upselling the Kordbot but I made a hellalotta music with that thing, the switching with the arps, note velocities and patterns was so easy that it made for killer performances. When I go back and listen to those recordings from a few years ago I appreciate them even more each time. Some of the coolest stuff I made was using it to play sample kits by arpeggiating them.
Hey Ricky. Found your video on Gearspace. Nice work on the review. I got my S2400 a month ago - haven't used it much yet (been busy with other gear). So it's always good to see what other people think.
You need to go back to revisit this unit. Many great updates now. Plus, when we used it back in the day it was about committing before recording pads. If you wanted make changes you. Copy patterns then make changes to new pattern.
Wanted to buy this as a dedicated vinyl sampler in my studio. After this, I don't know. I was SUPER excited to get this. Gonna watch some other stuff on this and see what others are saying. It does sound incredible, thought.
I wouldn't waste your time watching videos, and instead spend time using it and figuring out if the workflow works for you. I have plenty of criticisms of the s2400, but I do like using it to layout stems/parts, and the basic sampling functionality is great and sounds great. The new firmware also remedied a number of my complaints.
Found this a month ago, had a week of gear lust and then realised almost nothing about it fits in with my workflow. Appreciate the genuine review as all of the other ones out there are so stoked they have a sp1200 lookalike they can't say a bad word whereas everything you highlighted is what I would be worried to find.
SP1200 soundalike is better. If you dont like - buy an Akai and tap the glass screen. I bought the S2400 and got a couple of tunes played on the radio and DJs im into. It already does the job - fast workflow and sounds amazing.
I get that this is more an initial,impressions thing. But I do see a lot of fundamental misunderstanding of how operations work in here. I’ll be interested to see an update video after you learn the unit a bit better. Good content as always .
I mean I’ve been in the same position more times than I count… I don’t fault Rickey at all. It’s his honest first impressions. And yeah if you aren’t familiar with some of the ways it sequences (and it is very different from say an mpc or an elektron) many of these things can confuse you (like the fact that the level is a recorded state vs the mixer being a freely set able mixing level.) or the method for fader locking etc. my initial impression of the faders were also that they were too light. But I realized at the same time this is the price you pay for using high quality DJ quality faders. They have their advantages as well over stiff faders. But yeah fader locking is a key imho and saves you from screwing stuff up (which would happen regardless of fader viscosity… so this really is a good thing.) I have a feeling eventually we will see more.
Unfortunately Ricky's videos demonstrate a consistency for style over substance. He doesn't take the time to learn how to use the gear he showcases, and ends up with videos that look great but have zero depth.
@@Fluxwithit Good points, but maybe this highlights a basic point that some aspects of the OS/UI are kind of crappy in comparison to other current gear. The workflow for modifying parameters is pretty annoying - but if it weren't that way ppl would be losing their minds with faders positions, slice points, and envelopes shifting around on their own and screwing up sequences. *I say this as an s2400 owner/user with a decent number of months of regular love/hate use.
Keep giving it some time! I’ve had this coming up for a year in a few months. I have to say I’ve since stored away all my MPCs, and the only samplers I keep beside it is the 404 & my ASR. Nice jam!
You should be able to adjust the sample pitch in real time. It’s grate experience if you can’t afford an SP1200. Sound wise in comparison 80 percent close to the SP1200. I have both.
I waited almost a year but finally got this gem a few weeks ago. I’d mainly use it as a dope drum machine paired with an MPC One, which is just fantastic.
@@Jacobeyesea I mainly use the S2400 as a slave, playing my drum patterns / tracks through the MPC. Sometimes I just sample the S2400 back into the MPC to chop them up. However if I want to keep the legacy sound the S2400 will be my master. I’m terrible at explaining this kind of tech stuff, but Alex Ball explains this well here: th-cam.com/video/AWyr8mIWWn4/w-d-xo.html
Ricky is the only person I know that makes house music seem cool and fun to me. Always enjoy watching your process. And what an odd machine! Thanks for sharing 🍻
I really love the whole look and feel of that machine. Just the assortment of different elements (pads, those semi-transparent back-lit buttons, the faders, those double knobs). Maybe a super tiny detail, but I also really like the minimalistic playhead visualization in the display which just runs smoothly from left to right (instead of a timecode with numbers). As IslaInstruments point out in their comment above, the sound is in there and future firmware updates will do the rest. So given this kind of hardware, I think this has a LOT of potential
Those modification settings are SUPER unintuitive when you get started, I absolutely agree. BUT, they're only unintuitive. They're certainly not a flaw. Now that I have the muscle memory down, changing pitch/level/envelope etc is a million times faster in my s2400 than anything else I own. The genius behind the Isla's workflow is that once you have a part dialed in, you can mangle it all to hell trying to find a better vibe, but if you decide you wanna take it back, you just turn off override. Boom, you're back to the original, decent sounding starting point. If you do like your changes? Select override and modify. It's a really, really nice way to work without worrying about needing to physically undo all of your changes. Hands down the worst live performance setting you could ask for haha, but as a studio piece, it's incredible
I bought one cause sp1200 doesn't have separate midi channels per voice, which sucks when trying to pitch sounds when sequencing externally. Sounds close enough and prefer it to mpc sound or even sound of real drum machine.
Ricky is on point with this review, I have one. get in sequence some stuff and get out, push it to a daw or something. I love the sounds but way too damn buggy. MPC one is the best bang for the buck right now.
Just got mine and love it. Use it in conjunction with my Tempest and think it’s wonderful. It takes some getting used to and I’m still learning song mode to sync both “songs” on my S2400 and Tempest at the same time but overall I’ve already done about 5 tracks in 2 days with it. My only requests for features are an arpeggiator which is something super unique to the Tempest in that it helps to create organic hi hat patterns, Tom fills, and melodic bass lines...would love to see that implemented on the S2400. The other is for each channel to somehow have more than one sound at once. Even with 8 voice Polyphony it would be nice to be able to play sounds from say Bank A pad 1 and Bank 2 pad 1 through the same channel. Much like how the Prophet X has 2 samples and 2 oscillators per voice. Not sure if this is a hardware limitation but it would be nice.
Love your reviews Ricky... late last year I requested Major and Minor for the pitch fader so you can sample a single note then use the fader to tune it only to your scale. Like all things quirky on the S2400 they listed them as Ionian (Major) and Aeolian (Minor), search for them in the fader pitch window.
I hoping with firmware updates we can , streamline the work flow , I believe , that will bring this product to full bloom. I also agree the sound is incredible . However after having an mpc this is most definitely a change of pace. For now I think I will loop dump from my mpc or resample with the s2400. The usb audio is my favorite part. Pro tip , iPad with cubasis is sweet for Audio recording and sync with the s2400:
Got mine arrived this week. The cons you mentioned are definitely there, the mute-& solo buttons suck! The workflow compared to the digitakt kind of sucks too, but still I have to say I like it. How you feel about it now after a couple of weeks? Keeping it, selling it?
The workflow of 'setting up' a sound before you record into the sequencer is definitely at odds with the MPC way. BUT... there are some real advantages to the SP1200/S2400 way. Because all the values (level, pitch, filter, envelope, start/end/loop points etc.) are recorded into the sequencer for every note, it means you can literally have different values for every note of your sequence. It's a bit like Electron parameter locks (except they're always on). So in theory, there are an infinite number sounds you can record into the sequencer using just one pad. Also, the S2400 allows you to overwrite any parameter live by just holding the pad in record overwrite mode and moving the fader or knobs. You can get some great bass/hihat/synth lines by recording, for example, Envelope Decay tweaks as a pattern plays. Each note can even have a different filter type. The MPC can't do that. Pros and cons to both ways.
What a box! Cool company I didn't know of, i'm really digging it but i have too many crazy secret menus already. also trying out my new IEMs and they got me hooked on this sound
@@Getthenderson - there are millions of ways to bit crush, although they all sound different. Besides each device has its own personality. It’s a perfectly valid point, for me though, I guess if music making were a purely intellectual exercise, I couldn’t fault your argument. Economic and workflow efficiency definitely arn’t the reasons I still use my Amiga or my S-760 :)
@@jovantrendmaker4722 Well perhaps you can, though you must have missed my comment about efficiency not being the reason I still use old equipment. :) Besides there are subtleties to sounds that cannot be replicated, things like, the specific ways a particular action of a keybed forces you to play, eg the polly AT on my SQ-80 - unless you want to go in and edit notes by hand, which really would be inefficient in comparison. There are a couple of Polly AT controller keyboards around but good luck finding a 61 note one. Though that’s just one example I’ve been using DAW’s since Cubase 1.0 was released on the Atari in April 1989, I would’ve brought it on my Macintosh but that came out in 1990 which I still sometimes use. Of course all of that got made obsolete by sonic foundries ACID- and of course the whole host of VST and plug-in stuff.. ...and yes I have followed it all from there so I’m well aware of what it’s all capable of.. :) The sky is the limit as they say but there is a lot to be said for limitation too! fully cognisant here of the potential of modern equipment and Plug-ins.. and I guess if that’s your thing and you dig it you can work it like a beast but you have to bear in mind, technologically this is much like anything... For instance: Machine guns might have made swords pretty much obsolete, but I still would rather watch an expert in swordsmanship, then a highly skilled marksman. Both talents have their place. ..before you point out not to bring a knife to a gunfight, knives for the average skill level, are well known to be more deadly at close range then small arms, but of course it all depends on the skill level of the user. Also this is a rather morbid analogy and probably shouldn’t be taken too far. 😂 Hopefully you get the point though. Believe it or not there are actually things that can’t be replicated even with the latest equipment without considerable difficulty. Even that argument says nothing of the emotional and ontological practice of making music in a particular methodology. I dare say anyone sufficiently skilled in whatever device they are using could pretty much do almost anything with it- however at least for myself musicmaking is more of an experiential process than an exercise in ruthless digital efficiency. I do hear this argument from you youngsters allot and it must be terribly frustrating trying to get through to the older generation who are just so incredibly out of touch.. heheh 😏
interesting review. regardless without me using it or not, going from mpc to that will confused anyone. this 2400 looks awesome, but for the price, i might as well put in a bit more and get an MPC X
From watching the development of this, I went from excited to uninterested for reasons this video seems to confirm. Piling on the features but not displaying having the base functions clear and intuitive. The SP1200 is legendary because for its time it was really well thought out, streamlined and sounded rad. I wish it stuck to emulating the 1200 and then just worked on modernising the frustrations of that machine. Instead it took its best features and tried to piggy back them onto features that aren’t compatible.
Yeah. If they would have just done a simple SP1200 first then released this later as a Deluxe version or something. Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't Behringer working on a SP1200 as well?
Hmm...weird review, which is weird for RT! Have used a ton of samplers and own Eleckron, Akai, Roland etc - they are all different and good, but the Isla is in a higher class of its own - the SOUND, the Hardware UI, usability, ignore the haters, if you want to get away from the PC to create, this is the awesome sampler of all time! 💯
Yeah, the S2400 looks dope and sounds pretty good. However, I don't know if I would jell with that workflow, coming from a MPC background. I would honestly have to try it out for myself. With that said, I just can't see myself buying another drum machine right now considering how many I already have at the moment. Thanks for sharing your experience and thoughts about the S2400. Again, I admit it does sound very good without a doubt. I would choose it over an SP1200 because of the added modern features.
🤔 would say... "unfair review", but it is obvious that you need some time with that S2400. U're a great reviewer your channel represents a great source of information to those who need to see or hear gear before buy (for example). Would be great to see if you can bring future videos about this awesome machine. We did aquire a brand new SP 404sx 6 months ago and that was thanks to your videos showcasing it. Same for some Pocket Operators and the last week we received (at last) our S2400. So this review was a little "hard to swallow it", however we could learn a couple things from your review about the '24. Mucho respeto 🤘 esperaremos a que en el futuro no muy lejano saques más videos usando la S2400.
i got one and yes it's frustrating stuff happens and i can't figure out why i use it to sample chop loop then dump to DAW it needs LFO's and some type of bells and whistles to justify the price the MPC and Maschine line does so much more for the same price, It's Fun and Frustrating at the same time
@@valley_robot this is true BUT i predict the prices will go up once production stops people are already selling them for $2000 and they still make them
@@8thlvlMage If you want an almost fully-fledged DAW in a box (like the MPC One) where you could theoretically export a "finished" track, this could never satisfy you. And that's cool, but there's a market out there for samplers without all those extras - they're not really competing with each other. If you don't want to export a finished track, all the extras of the MPC One/Live get in the way.
That modify pattern sequence does seem like a headache, guess it’s so you can tweak live in overdrive mode and still get back to the original but I agree they could’ve made with less menu diving.
So I really like your in depth look, and I’m swaying towards the sp1200 instead. Anyone know why 12bit seems to have a mix that sit better in groove? Or is that just all my fav classic hip hop records?
I thought the pads felt like the texture of a nail buffer but built really well. The sound is fat and warm but the chopping function not so much you can’t create drum kits from your chopped samples plus some of the preset drum kits were not truncated that well. And plus only 8 tracks also upset about with my verse lab but all and all would I buy it again no why because I don’t sample that much to have a dedicated cates sampler like this with no synth sounds so I sold for a nice chunk of change.
Love the no nonsense reviewing ❤ (and my fave vid is the one where you show how you use the mpc 3000 with a synth and ableton, always thought with the old mpc´s that you had to spend a half hour loading floppys, your way of using it was genius) thumbs up.
Hey Ricky still using this? I got mine about a month ago and think it's a great piece of gear. I personally got on with how you chain patterns in song mode - I see what your saying. I'd also agree about the sliders. Like you I'd like a little resistance but other than this- it's great - apart from missing FX's which you can get the DSP although does add to the price.
I think that hat was "loud" because you selected it for editing in real-time. It went back to normal when it was deselected and off of the display 6:55
I have to say. I’m not a fan boi but I do have one of these. There’s a lot of negativity being thrown around which is completely unwarranted from people without hands on exp. I think they are still refining the OS but in pretty collaborative way, very active on forums/fb. What I can say as a house/garage producer is I can make a beat that sounds like a finished record on this thing with eight samples and no effects at all. It sounds incredible, samples come alive. Workflow in spite of issues is inspiring to me. Dump a few pattern variations in to a DAW, add some fx and post. Job done. That’s how I’m doing it and I love it. Just my 2C to give fence sitters another perspective. I have a feeling Ricky Will change his mind a bit. 😎
@@jovantrendmaker4722 haven’t released anything yet only had it a couple of weeks! But it sounds like you just want not to like it, which is fine.. get something else..
@@jovantrendmaker4722 I made a full song with it, specifically because much of what I was hearing was just short 4 and 8 bar loops being manipulated. While the song mode can be a bit confusing, you can also just use it to make one sequence go into the next like a typical DAW. I find it quite easy and intuitive to make full songs, and yes, they do come out sounding like a finished record IMO: th-cam.com/video/R6zgSsYeKQ0/w-d-xo.html
Hey Ricky, I own few Behringer synths. Live Instruments and Op 1. I was thinking about getting MPC X. Then I saw this box and am thinking about it. Could you simply quick compare?
The reason are i/o possibilities. It would allow me to transport beat simply through one device into ableton without investment into a new souncard. I am still using the 22 Steinberg unfortunately...poor boy u know.
I'm a heavy mpc guy. I have a few as well as other samplers. (Digitakt, Deluge, 404sx, op-z, su-10, micro granny, and some PO33s 🤣) But I can honestly say that after acquiring the S2400 I'm finally full. I use to want an SP-1200 and an MPC 3000 but after getting this I could care less about them especially the SP-1200 🙄. Thing sounds amazing. I ran my some beats from my live2 retro through it and almost had tears. To me the sound of any gear is 90% of what you're looking for. I wish live hell the converters on my live sound this buttery. Don't get me wrong I was frustrated with coming from the quick workflow of the mpc especially the live. Having effects on deck has spoiled me tremendously. But the feeling I get from this harkens back to when I got my MPC2000 that also had no fx. Sometimes I feel like I was more creative with my 2k than my 4k. I'm looking forward to the future updates and the fx daughterboard that's in development. Also With a Huge amount of respect to Ricky. He can change on a dime from not really digging a piece of gear like the MPCLIVE 😡 to falling in love with it......like the MPCLIVE (MKII) 😡 So to those who are knocking it without giving it a real try or a try at all, you are doing yourself a huge disservice........ kinda like me with the digitakt before I got one. 🤣😔
There isn’t an FX daughterboard in development yet. It hasn’t even been confirmed as coming. I’m hoping for it as well, but an analog filter daughterboard will likely come first which for me is way preferable to native dsp fx. Plenty of external fx to go around 8 sweepable filters will be money
I believe the cons of the machine you’re frustrated of are safety features. When you get happy accidents, the slightest accidental change can ruin potential magic. With so many sliders and buttons, it’s easy to change a parameter that totally changes the feel and you didn’t even know you did it. With the undo feature being finite, you might undo something you put a lot of effort into. Easier to make slight changes and get it just right instead of just erasing it and now you’re crushed. I had an old loop sampler that was very primitive. And I had a happy accident that turned out to be gold. I broke my neck rocking to it so hard. I went to make change and I accidentally erased it. I straight up cried. Then spent 10 hours trying to get it again to no avail. Once you get used to the flow, it will be second nature. And you won’t accidentally kill something magical. Thanks for the vid and thanks for your opinions. I can’t wait to get one myself. Always wanted an SP but the MPC3000 came out and it made me forget about the SP. If I was rich I would’ve had both. Take care
If you’re used to the MPC way of doing things this machine takes a while to get used to. I do wish it had an eq on the sample input. That would make the direct turntable input more useable.
Hey Ricky, love your videos... There are some important features you forgot to mention, like Resampling. Which takes any sample and reprocesses it through the (SP 1200) Analog filter Input circuits. You can also resample at 26khz 12 bit or 48 16bit or even re-pitch up like vinyl from 33rpm to 45rpm for added old school sampling crunch (for those that don't know).
Full Midi 32 track Sequencer is now included with full MIDI MAP and MIDI CC control over VSTi in Ableton along with hardware synths, while then Slave syncing it to the ER-M MULTICLOCK in Ableton as the Master for recording. (PS: USB Audio bypasses SP1200 Filters on the 8 Outs).
It also has an additional 8 Track Live Looper mode, it's the brain of the entire studio now and with latest OS, I have yet to find any major bugs.
But they seem to release new OS updates and new features very often.
Build wise, yeah apart from the Mute Solo Buttons, the unit should last you at least 25 years. a Tank!
Hopefully they will add Conform to Musical Scales in the MIDI Sequencer soon with the next OS, along with the new Time Stretch.
I think this is the key - it's like buying a vintage sampler, you have to want the sound features bad enough to put up with quirks/workflow/whatever else you don't like.
Oh yeah, I wasn’t trying to do a complete crazy overview. And a lot of the features you mentioned are cool and very useful at times. I’m still getting to grips with this thing I just wanted to give a quick initial impression on how I would most likely use the machine. With most of the devices I use it’s not until the later stages where I really implement all these features to create new styles of music that are outside of what I usually do.
This is an amazing list for anyone to check out though! I hope people do, and I’m going to pin your comment so that people can see it
@@RickyTinez Hi and thanks for sharing. How do you see the s2400 for live performances having it being the brain, drum machine- sampler, and using the looper and midi tracks to play synths and other instruments? I can see that the song mode lacks from programming capabilities, like more type of events and being able to send midi messages. Would you consider the octatrack better in this respect? Thanks for the help! I’ve been waiting 1 year now and really wondering if I should reconsider buying it.
so if you loaded a sample, say at 33 rpm from a record in, you can resampled to pitch it up and then slow it down to get that grit? wow that’s amazing, was thinking about just loading drum sounds into my mpc, pitching them up, and THEN sampling into the 2400. dope to here i can skip that process and do it all in the 2400!
@@RickyTinezRicky how does the s2400 sound comparing it to the mpc 3000 and 4000 in your opinion brother? Thank you
Hey Ricky,
Thanks for taking the time out to make this video, we're truly honoured.
We're super proud that you and others have commented on the S2400's sound. That was always the impetus for making the machine. Everything else can grow and develop as we carve away at the creation of the OS.
There are a few points I noticed in the video where there was some frustration on your side on how things might be expected to work., Some of which has been talked about prior to this video which we have already taken on board. Firmware updates, at our current rate, are released almost monthly, fixing bugs that are found and also adding more functionality to the machine as we progress and take on board all that you guys are saying.
I hope to see more content from you on our baby as we all grow and develop with it, I'm envious of how gorgeous your camera shots are!
Sorry we didn't get to meet again at knobcon this year was a bit too risky for me.
Thanks again for taking the time out dude!
Yo thanks for the reply, im stoked to see where this machine goes. and its still on the desk cranking out some knocking drums. Also been exploring the Looper function lately which is badass! I'll keep my eyes on the forums for future updates.
this is shaping up to be an amazing machine. I can't wait for mine and I am so sorry people are being so terrible about the wait =/ I have seen your frustration on facebook
Going to promote your companies product was too 'risky' for you Isla?
@Miles R. Stracey Pathetic if so
@@RickyTinez damn I feel like reselling mine and getting a mpc 2500. Too many bugs…
Bro, it's really time you revisited this machine. The last update was a game changer. This review is about a machine that's very different than what we have today.
ALOT of "game changers" in every music Instrument these days lol. Stop gassing yourself
Please do!!
The software updates for S2400 are amazing. Today, this is a perfect machine. So a lot has changed since this review.
Yeah, this video need a redo really.
I have been going through your entire channel and every time. EVERY TIME. I get inspired to hit a jam sesh. Thanks Ricky.
Count me in as a s2400 fan who owns 2 units, has NO problems with his mute/solo buttons, and finds the heft to be equiv to the MPC3000 and quite lovely. In addition, the method in which you edit a particular track/channel using the A button and then Shift-A to write the change or "Modify", is well thought out. Why? Because it allows you to alter, audition back and forth, and then write the change should you decide. IMHO the s2400 is a simple and fast way to lay down your ideas in the crunchiest old school way possible. And the way it can USB to your computer and becaome a virtual external HDD is so efficient. I advise everyone to read the well thought-out review of the S2400 in Sound on Sound magazine.
Are you claiming that Isla didn't buy ads in Sound on Sound magazine?
@@ChrisP3000x Isla haven't advertised in Sound on Sound or anywhere else. Sometimes you just gotta trust the thousands of people that love the device. It's not a conspiracy.
@@station2station544 I just asked a very basic and obvious question. You implying that I am a conspiracy theorist for asking, makes me seriously question your motivations, and gives me a bad taste regarding this product. Just sayin'...
@@ChrisP3000x Isn't my company....doesn't bother me a bit.
@@station2station544Suuure, Captain Obvious.
Are you going to post a follow up review with a more deep dive especially since many of these bugs have been fixed?
I watched this video and almost passed on a second hand S2400 at a good price because it just looked so confusing to use. I understand Ricky made this video very early on, and it looks like it was a bit harder to use. In September 2023 this is an excellent instrument. I have had it home a few hours and already got external clock inputs from SW SYNC working tight, am making kits, patterns, mults etc... The workflow is incredibly good.
You don’t need to override that way if you don’t want - you can set up override mode when recording like you did and press the pad when you want to implement it into the sequence - that allows you to overdub the setting just where you want it. Super fun to record filter changes but also level changes. The cool thing then is you can change the level slider as you hold down or press the pad while in override mode and it will put in different levels. Just FYI
I agree the workflow is different but now that I got into it I find it so easy and fast to get an idea down it’s ridiculous. Probably helps I never used an MPC .
I was just about to write this.👍🏾
@@benmironmd how do turn on override mode?
@@gerardodominguez7726 for level it’s the ‘a’ button when you are recording and on the level menu and for filter it’s the ‘b’ button. You click those on while record is enabled and then when you push the pad it will encode that value you have selected at the time into the pattern and you will hear it at that level when you push it.
@@benmironmd Why there needs to be two different buttons to unlock overwrite depending on the parameter makes no sense in terms of workflow.
Sigma is the mathematical symbol for the sum, so you see it on mixers when signals are added together.
I wikipedia'd to no avail for a musical use, but didn't think of electronics use.
@@thomassynths I should come clean and say the only mixers I am absolutely sure use Sigma for sum in a musical context are the MakeNoise mixer modules.
SSL Sigma summing mixer is another example
This is correct. Sigma notation can be thought of like a “for loop” of sorts where repeat summing of terms needs to be written in a compact form. It is commonly encountered in Calculus 3 when working with infinite series but it absolutely applies to audio summing and also comes up in lens optics. Disclaimer: I don’t know about how DSP works. However, there are parallels between summing periodic functions like say sin waves both on a graphing calculator as well as when using a digital mixer doing linear summing. In other words when you have two sin waves that are in the same phase you will get amplitude gains both on a graph as well as in an actual audio mix (hence the need for headroom to mix audio)
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One feature not mentioned in this review: 'midi input focus' - this is a game changer! Control external synths with a keyboard connected by USB (or midi) to the 2400. Switch between them by pressing 'A' above each track/pad, and MIDI is re-routed to the channel assigned to that pad. I have a different synth assigned to each pad and just press A to have the keyboard play & record notes with perfect timing in the S2400. This puts the 2400 firmly in the centre of my small rig. Nice touch and well thought out feature. With the highly active community on the forum, the team are listening and squashing bugs and making workflow improvements with regular firmware updates 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I’d love to see a follow up video once you spend more time and learn some new tricks that might improve the workflow and change some of your initial opinions on this.
Excellent Drum Machine/Sampler that will require some dedication to learn. I love the live looper and USB audio. It took me a week to get down and now its my main studio piece. Many more firmware updates will come and this thing will eventually be an incredible unit! Thanks for the review.
Where's the follow up?
Finally got mine and have started playing with it today. I installed the newest firmware released on 10/1 which is a major upgrade & bug squasher. So far the unit sounds incredible and I really don't think the workflow is very cumbersome personally (Elektron boxes are way more strange / awkward than this imo as much as I love them). I hope you revisit this thing because there's a lot it can do & I do believe it blows many other current drum machine / samplers out of the water.
Its no 1200 though, thats for sure.
@@jonathansoko1085 why?
@@voodoohex72 because it literally isnt
@@jonathansoko1085 seems to me like its a 1200 on steroids. Is it not?
I get no love for upselling the Kordbot but I made a hellalotta music with that thing, the switching with the arps, note velocities and patterns was so easy that it made for killer performances. When I go back and listen to those recordings from a few years ago I appreciate them even more each time. Some of the coolest stuff I made was using it to play sample kits by arpeggiating them.
Hey Ricky. Found your video on Gearspace. Nice work on the review. I got my S2400 a month ago - haven't used it much yet (been busy with other gear). So it's always good to see what other people think.
it's such a beautiful instrument. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this instrument .
Thanks for this honest review! Always glad to hear about devices I don't need to have GAS for 😅
You need to go back to revisit this unit. Many great updates now. Plus, when we used it back in the day it was about committing before recording pads. If you wanted make changes you. Copy patterns then make changes to new pattern.
Damn Ricky you can get around any strange Waldorf/Elektron OS and you are saying this one is weird.
Wanted to buy this as a dedicated vinyl sampler in my studio. After this, I don't know. I was SUPER excited to get this. Gonna watch some other stuff on this and see what others are saying. It does sound incredible, thought.
Theve sold out
I wouldn't waste your time watching videos, and instead spend time using it and figuring out if the workflow works for you.
I have plenty of criticisms of the s2400, but I do like using it to layout stems/parts, and the basic sampling functionality is great and sounds great.
The new firmware also remedied a number of my complaints.
Found this a month ago, had a week of gear lust and then realised almost nothing about it fits in with my workflow. Appreciate the genuine review as all of the other ones out there are so stoked they have a sp1200 lookalike they can't say a bad word whereas everything you highlighted is what I would be worried to find.
second it
SP1200 soundalike is better. If you dont like - buy an Akai and tap the glass screen. I bought the S2400 and got a couple of tunes played on the radio and DJs im into. It already does the job - fast workflow and sounds amazing.
I get that this is more an initial,impressions thing. But I do see a lot of fundamental misunderstanding of how operations work in here. I’ll be interested to see an update video after you learn the unit a bit better. Good content as always .
Was thinking the same thing.
He wont
I mean I’ve been in the same position more times than I count… I don’t fault Rickey at all. It’s his honest first impressions. And yeah if you aren’t familiar with some of the ways it sequences (and it is very different from say an mpc or an elektron) many of these things can confuse you (like the fact that the level is a recorded state vs the mixer being a freely set able mixing level.) or the method for fader locking etc. my initial impression of the faders were also that they were too light. But I realized at the same time this is the price you pay for using high quality DJ quality faders. They have their advantages as well over stiff faders. But yeah fader locking is a key imho and saves you from screwing stuff up (which would happen regardless of fader viscosity… so this really is a good thing.) I have a feeling eventually we will see more.
Unfortunately Ricky's videos demonstrate a consistency for style over substance. He doesn't take the time to learn how to use the gear he showcases, and ends up with videos that look great but have zero depth.
@@Fluxwithit
Good points, but maybe this highlights a basic point that some aspects of the OS/UI are kind of crappy in comparison to other current gear. The workflow for modifying parameters is pretty annoying - but if it weren't that way ppl would be losing their minds with faders positions, slice points, and envelopes shifting around on their own and screwing up sequences.
*I say this as an s2400 owner/user with a decent number of months of regular love/hate use.
"They'll bury me with my SP-1200" - Pharaoh Monch
Wicked piece of kit
nice one ricky! i have to confess i‘m facing the same issues - but yeah, sounds crunchy...!
Keep giving it some time! I’ve had this coming up for a year in a few months. I have to say I’ve since stored away all my MPCs, and the only samplers I keep beside it is the 404 & my ASR. Nice jam!
yea i want to do more with it especially since its still dead center on my desk. it sounds amazing and giving me some really good sounding drums
You should be able to adjust the sample pitch in real time. It’s grate experience if you can’t afford an SP1200. Sound wise in comparison 80 percent close to the SP1200. I have both.
I waited almost a year but finally got this gem a few weeks ago. I’d mainly use it as a dope drum machine paired with an MPC One, which is just fantastic.
@@Jacobeyesea same
yea that's kind of where its been landing for myself too! once in awhile a simple chord stab. but the drums on this thing knock!
@@Jacobeyesea
I mainly use the S2400 as a slave, playing my drum patterns / tracks through the MPC. Sometimes I just sample the S2400 back into the MPC to chop them up. However if I want to keep the legacy sound the S2400 will be my master. I’m terrible at explaining this kind of tech stuff, but Alex Ball explains this well here: th-cam.com/video/AWyr8mIWWn4/w-d-xo.html
Ricky is the only person I know that makes house music seem cool and fun to me. Always enjoy watching your process. And what an odd machine! Thanks for sharing 🍻
Smartest/most objective review I've seen of this instrument so far #welldone
I really love the whole look and feel of that machine. Just the assortment of different elements (pads, those semi-transparent back-lit buttons, the faders, those double knobs). Maybe a super tiny detail, but I also really like the minimalistic playhead visualization in the display which just runs smoothly from left to right (instead of a timecode with numbers).
As IslaInstruments point out in their comment above, the sound is in there and future firmware updates will do the rest. So given this kind of hardware, I think this has a LOT of potential
Those modification settings are SUPER unintuitive when you get started, I absolutely agree. BUT, they're only unintuitive. They're certainly not a flaw. Now that I have the muscle memory down, changing pitch/level/envelope etc is a million times faster in my s2400 than anything else I own. The genius behind the Isla's workflow is that once you have a part dialed in, you can mangle it all to hell trying to find a better vibe, but if you decide you wanna take it back, you just turn off override. Boom, you're back to the original, decent sounding starting point. If you do like your changes? Select override and modify. It's a really, really nice way to work without worrying about needing to physically undo all of your changes. Hands down the worst live performance setting you could ask for haha, but as a studio piece, it's incredible
Σ = capital sigma. it is used as a summation symbol in mathematics.
Ricky - Is the S2400 going to get another review now you've had it for a while or did you get rid of it?
Your tutorials are one of the best, we need one for the 2400
wow, surprising no updated response. I do enjoy your vids but disappointed with this not being updated.
I bought one cause sp1200 doesn't have separate midi channels per voice, which sucks when trying to pitch sounds when sequencing externally. Sounds close enough and prefer it to mpc sound or even sound of real drum machine.
It's gonna take a lot of time playing and recording with that beast in order to master it.
Ricky is on point with this review, I have one. get in sequence some stuff and get out, push it to a daw or something. I love the sounds but way too damn buggy. MPC one is the best bang for the buck right now.
I just hope they keep making them because I’m gonna need one
Thank you for killing my GAS for this. Just gonna go with getting the mpc one or live ii when I'm tired of the new circuits
Great honest and balanced view as always Ricky!
Ricky, do you still have the Isla s2400 now (4/24) or did you sell it? just curious, as I am thinking of getting one. Thanks.
Just got mine and love it. Use it in conjunction with my Tempest and think it’s wonderful. It takes some getting used to and I’m still learning song mode to sync both “songs” on my S2400 and Tempest at the same time but overall I’ve already done about 5 tracks in 2 days with it.
My only requests for features are an arpeggiator which is something super unique to the Tempest in that it helps to create organic hi hat patterns, Tom fills, and melodic bass lines...would love to see that implemented on the S2400.
The other is for each channel to somehow have more than one sound at once. Even with 8 voice Polyphony it would be nice to be able to play sounds from say Bank A pad 1 and Bank 2 pad 1 through the same channel. Much like how the Prophet X has 2 samples and 2 oscillators per voice. Not sure if this is a hardware limitation but it would be nice.
looks interesting ... and i didn't expect Ricky to hove such a straight hair line 🤪
Love your reviews Ricky... late last year I requested Major and Minor for the pitch fader so you can sample a single note then use the fader to tune it only to your scale. Like all things quirky on the S2400 they listed them as Ionian (Major) and Aeolian (Minor), search for them in the fader pitch window.
It's hardly quirky to name the major and minor scales after the Ionian and Aeolian modes, after all they've been called that for a very long time.
That's not quirky, it's correct. You just need to study more theory
Looks impressive! 👀👍🏾
I prefer a little bit of resistance to my faders to, but thinking it would be pretty easy to mod with a brush or rubber strip.
Also you can get the same sound from the poly end tracker which is only 8!tracks but cheaper don’t like the polyend SEQ though
I hoping with firmware updates we can , streamline the work flow , I believe , that will bring this product to full bloom. I also agree the sound is incredible . However after having an mpc this is most definitely a change of pace. For now I think I will loop dump from my mpc or resample with the s2400. The usb audio is my favorite part. Pro tip , iPad with cubasis is sweet for Audio recording and sync with the s2400:
isla instruments + firmware updates = lol good luck
@@SUPAMURDA Eh? They managed audio over USB as the 4th FW update. It took Elektron 3 years and TE 11 years on the OP-1
@@SUPAMURDA There's firmware updates almost weekly
Are you going to do a follow up video?
The beauty is Isla is doing constant updates and they’re on any bugs. So report them and they will be fixed.
Ricky Tinez - Chorizo Fingers (original mix) 18:31
At 13:01 - how to make a workflow totally unnecessarily complicated and wound up... *eyeroll*
Got mine arrived this week. The cons you mentioned are definitely there, the mute-& solo buttons suck! The workflow compared to the digitakt kind of sucks too, but still I have to say I like it. How you feel about it now after a couple of weeks? Keeping it, selling it?
@Jill Tuck BAHAHAHAHHAHAAHA
Do you still have it mate or did you get rid of it?
The workflow of 'setting up' a sound before you record into the sequencer is definitely at odds with the MPC way. BUT... there are some real advantages to the SP1200/S2400 way. Because all the values (level, pitch, filter, envelope, start/end/loop points etc.) are recorded into the sequencer for every note, it means you can literally have different values for every note of your sequence. It's a bit like Electron parameter locks (except they're always on). So in theory, there are an infinite number sounds you can record into the sequencer using just one pad. Also, the S2400 allows you to overwrite any parameter live by just holding the pad in record overwrite mode and moving the fader or knobs. You can get some great bass/hihat/synth lines by recording, for example, Envelope Decay tweaks as a pattern plays. Each note can even have a different filter type. The MPC can't do that. Pros and cons to both ways.
wait I thought the overwrite live was only for volume pitch and filter, did that add it for other parameters as well?
@@lobit12 it will be soon :)
Would love an in depth overview tutorial on this machine. Most tutorials kind of gloss over things.
7:41 The World is Yours
Any chance to upgrade these mute solo buttons? Funny first time I hear someone complaining (I’m waiting for the sp2400 to reach me…)
What a box! Cool company I didn't know of, i'm really digging it but i have too many crazy secret menus already. also trying out my new IEMs and they got me hooked on this sound
Check out the latest isla 2400 update video, firmware dropping Friday- addressing a lot of the issues you brought up!
What are you trying to do bankrupt me?? 😂
That low end crunch though :)
Marketing, there are a million ways of getting crunch, most of which are inexpensive.
@@Getthenderson you can’t get the fat sound of this box in software. I’ve tried everything. It’s not just crunch/aliasing. You can get close though..
@@Getthenderson - there are millions of ways to bit crush, although they all sound different. Besides each device has its own personality.
It’s a perfectly valid point, for me though, I guess if music making were a purely intellectual exercise, I couldn’t fault your argument.
Economic and workflow efficiency definitely arn’t the reasons I still use my Amiga or my S-760 :)
You can make everything in daw you just dont know how or you are not trying. Its way easier with maschine like this doe
@@jovantrendmaker4722 Well perhaps you can, though you must have missed my comment about efficiency not being the reason I still use old equipment. :)
Besides there are subtleties to sounds that cannot be replicated, things like, the specific ways a particular action of a keybed forces you to play, eg the polly AT on my SQ-80 - unless you want to go in and edit notes by hand, which really would be inefficient in comparison. There are a couple of Polly AT controller keyboards around but good luck finding a 61 note one.
Though that’s just one example I’ve been using DAW’s since Cubase 1.0 was released on the Atari in April 1989, I would’ve brought it on my Macintosh but that came out in 1990 which I still sometimes use.
Of course all of that got made obsolete by sonic foundries ACID- and of course the whole host of VST and plug-in stuff..
...and yes I have followed it all from there so I’m well aware of what it’s all capable of.. :) The sky is the limit as they say but there is a lot to be said for limitation too!
fully cognisant here of the potential of modern equipment and Plug-ins.. and I guess if that’s your thing and you dig it you can work it like a beast but you have to bear in mind, technologically this is much like anything...
For instance:
Machine guns might have made swords pretty much obsolete, but I still would rather watch an expert in swordsmanship, then a highly skilled marksman. Both talents have their place.
..before you point out not to bring a knife to a gunfight, knives for the average skill level, are well known to be more deadly at close range then small arms, but of course it all depends on the skill level of the user. Also this is a rather morbid analogy and probably shouldn’t be taken too far. 😂
Hopefully you get the point though. Believe it or not there are actually things that can’t be replicated even with the latest equipment without considerable difficulty. Even that argument says nothing of the emotional and ontological practice of making music in a particular methodology.
I dare say anyone sufficiently skilled in whatever device they are using could pretty much do almost anything with it- however at least for myself musicmaking is more of an experiential process than an exercise in ruthless digital efficiency.
I do hear this argument from you youngsters allot and it must be terribly frustrating trying to get through to the older generation who are just so incredibly out of touch.. heheh 😏
interesting review. regardless without me using it or not, going from mpc to that will confused anyone. this 2400 looks awesome, but for the price, i might as well put in a bit more and get an MPC X
From watching the development of this, I went from excited to uninterested for reasons this video seems to confirm. Piling on the features but not displaying having the base functions clear and intuitive. The SP1200 is legendary because for its time it was really well thought out, streamlined and sounded rad. I wish it stuck to emulating the 1200 and then just worked on modernising the frustrations of that machine. Instead it took its best features and tried to piggy back them onto features that aren’t compatible.
Yeah. If they would have just done a simple SP1200 first then released this later as a Deluxe version or something.
Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't Behringer working on a SP1200 as well?
@@slushedpuppy8044 LmDrum 12bit sampler maybe next year. Check out puesa here on yt he's making a 1200 too.
Hmm...weird review, which is weird for RT! Have used a ton of samplers and own Eleckron, Akai, Roland etc - they are all different and good, but the Isla is in a higher class of its own - the SOUND, the Hardware UI, usability, ignore the haters, if you want to get away from the PC to create, this is the awesome sampler of all time! 💯
Cool video. I used to have a SP-1200 back in the day and was thinking about getting this.
Yeah, the S2400 looks dope and sounds pretty good. However, I don't know if I would jell with that workflow, coming from a MPC background. I would honestly have to try it out for myself. With that said, I just can't see myself buying another drum machine right now considering how many I already have at the moment.
Thanks for sharing your experience and thoughts about the S2400. Again, I admit it does sound very good without a doubt. I would choose it over an SP1200 because of the added modern features.
🤔 would say... "unfair review", but it is obvious that you need some time with that S2400. U're a great reviewer your channel represents a great source of information to those who need to see or hear gear before buy (for example).
Would be great to see if you can bring future videos about this awesome machine. We did aquire a brand new SP 404sx 6 months ago and that was thanks to your videos showcasing it. Same for some Pocket Operators and the last week we received (at last) our S2400.
So this review was a little "hard to swallow it", however we could learn a couple things from your review about the '24.
Mucho respeto 🤘 esperaremos a que en el futuro no muy lejano saques más videos usando la S2400.
How do you make these videos so smooth?! Another good one. Cool piece of gear, too🧡🦑
Nice, Ricky! Now look forward to seeing your review of Rossum’s new reissue of the legendary SP1200... 😅
Sharing a lot of thoughs on the sp2400.
i got one and yes it's frustrating stuff happens and i can't figure out why i use it to sample chop loop then dump to DAW it needs LFO's and some type of bells and whistles to justify the price the MPC and Maschine line does so much more for the same price, It's Fun and Frustrating at the same time
Yes they do , and this is an overpriced nostalgia trip
@@valley_robot this is true BUT i predict the prices will go up once production stops people are already selling them for $2000 and they still make them
MPC One is like half the price. I'd never want this thing at $1500 and I definitely wouldn't at $2000+.
@@8thlvlMage If you want an almost fully-fledged DAW in a box (like the MPC One) where you could theoretically export a "finished" track, this could never satisfy you. And that's cool, but there's a market out there for samplers without all those extras - they're not really competing with each other.
If you don't want to export a finished track, all the extras of the MPC One/Live get in the way.
16 poly 🔥 u should give it a taste to the last update and throw us a new feedback bro. Saludos ☕
First critical review I've seen! Most seem pleased, but many preorders were 1200 users earlier, expecting that workflow. We shall see...
That modify pattern sequence does seem like a headache, guess it’s so you can tweak live in overdrive mode and still get back to the original but I agree they could’ve made with less menu diving.
So I really like your in depth look, and I’m swaying towards the sp1200 instead. Anyone know why 12bit seems to have a mix that sit better in groove? Or is that just all my fav classic hip hop records?
My G... there are 8 multi outputs for each sample. After you track the individual outs to Pro Tools you can add RTAS Plugin effects.
Saw in the Isla stream that they have a DSP module coming. S2400 mkii?
I'd love one of these
I thought the pads felt like the texture of a nail buffer but built really well. The sound is fat and warm but the chopping function not so much you can’t create drum kits from your chopped samples plus some of the preset drum kits were not truncated that well. And plus only 8 tracks also upset about with my verse lab but all and all would I buy it again no why because I don’t sample that much to have a dedicated cates sampler like this with no synth sounds so I sold for a nice chunk of change.
Hey what I'd the keyboard stand you have in the background
Love the no nonsense reviewing ❤ (and my fave vid is the one where you show how you use the mpc 3000 with a synth and ableton, always thought with the old mpc´s that you had to spend a half hour loading floppys, your way of using it was genius) thumbs up.
Hey Ricky still using this? I got mine about a month ago and think it's a great piece of gear. I personally got on with how you chain patterns in song mode - I see what your saying. I'd also agree about the sliders. Like you I'd like a little resistance but other than this- it's great - apart from missing FX's which you can get the DSP although does add to the price.
Hey Ricky, thanks for the video! Thoughts on this vs the MPC Live II vs the Octatrack for a guy with a Digitakt who wants to get more into samplers?
Very honest review. These are for recording pretty much right? They are suited for really a live use.
Thanks bro
I think that hat was "loud" because you selected it for editing in real-time. It went back to normal when it was deselected and off of the display 6:55
Wish Analog Rytm mk2 would add a solo sound edit screen to fine chop samples
I have to say. I’m not a fan boi but I do have one of these. There’s a lot of negativity being thrown around which is completely unwarranted from people without hands on exp. I think they are still refining the OS but in pretty collaborative way, very active on forums/fb. What I can say as a house/garage producer is I can make a beat that sounds like a finished record on this thing with eight samples and no effects at all. It sounds incredible, samples come alive. Workflow in spite of issues is inspiring to me. Dump a few pattern variations in to a DAW, add some fx and post. Job done. That’s how I’m doing it and I love it. Just my 2C to give fence sitters another perspective. I have a feeling Ricky Will change his mind a bit. 😎
Can i hear some of your relises can you post link cos most people i see use this maschine make horendous beats
@@jovantrendmaker4722 haven’t released anything yet only had it a couple of weeks! But it sounds like you just want not to like it, which is fine.. get something else..
Aha cool
@@jovantrendmaker4722 I made a full song with it, specifically because much of what I was hearing was just short 4 and 8 bar loops being manipulated. While the song mode can be a bit confusing, you can also just use it to make one sequence go into the next like a typical DAW. I find it quite easy and intuitive to make full songs, and yes, they do come out sounding like a finished record IMO: th-cam.com/video/R6zgSsYeKQ0/w-d-xo.html
@@jovantrendmaker4722 watch the Tubedigga videos. Best beats by far
Hey Ricky, I own few Behringer synths. Live Instruments and Op 1. I was thinking about getting MPC X. Then I saw this box and am thinking about it. Could you simply quick compare?
The reason are i/o possibilities. It would allow me to transport beat simply through one device into ableton without investment into a new souncard. I am still using the 22 Steinberg unfortunately...poor boy u know.
I'm a heavy mpc guy. I have a few as well as other samplers. (Digitakt, Deluge, 404sx, op-z, su-10, micro granny, and some PO33s 🤣)
But I can honestly say that after acquiring the S2400 I'm finally full. I use to want an SP-1200 and an MPC 3000 but after getting this I could care less about them especially the SP-1200 🙄. Thing sounds amazing. I ran my some beats from my live2 retro through it and almost had tears. To me the sound of any gear is 90% of what you're looking for. I wish live hell the converters on my live sound this buttery. Don't get me wrong I was frustrated with coming from the quick workflow of the mpc especially the live. Having effects on deck has spoiled me tremendously.
But the feeling I get from this harkens back to when I got my MPC2000 that also had no fx. Sometimes I feel like I was more creative with my 2k than my 4k.
I'm looking forward to the future updates and the fx daughterboard that's in development.
Also With a Huge amount of respect to Ricky. He can change on a dime from not really digging a piece of gear like the MPCLIVE 😡 to falling in love with it......like the MPCLIVE (MKII) 😡
So to those who are knocking it without giving it a real try or a try at all, you are doing yourself a huge disservice........ kinda like me with the digitakt before I got one. 🤣😔
There isn’t an FX daughterboard in development yet. It hasn’t even been confirmed as coming. I’m hoping for it as well, but an analog filter daughterboard will likely come first which for me is way preferable to native dsp fx. Plenty of external fx to go around 8 sweepable filters will be money
@@j.r.g3548 it does talk about more fx to come on the bottom of the description on their website.🤷🏿♂️
I believe the cons of the machine you’re frustrated of are safety features. When you get happy accidents, the slightest accidental change can ruin potential magic. With so many sliders and buttons, it’s easy to change a parameter that totally changes the feel and you didn’t even know you did it. With the undo feature being finite, you might undo something you put a lot of effort into. Easier to make slight changes and get it just right instead of just erasing it and now you’re crushed. I had an old loop sampler that was very primitive. And I had a happy accident that turned out to be gold. I broke my neck rocking to it so hard. I went to make change and I accidentally erased it. I straight up cried. Then spent 10 hours trying to get it again to no avail. Once you get used to the flow, it will be second nature. And you won’t accidentally kill something magical. Thanks for the vid and thanks for your opinions. I can’t wait to get one myself. Always wanted an SP but the MPC3000 came out and it made me forget about the SP. If I was rich I would’ve had both. Take care
If you’re used to the MPC way of doing things this machine takes a while to get used to. I do wish it had an eq on the sample input. That would make the direct turntable input more useable.
I really ❤️ chorizo fingers. Greetings from Spain, Ricky!
I'ma grab one for Easter 🐱🙏🏽
S2400 is a modern classic. Nails the 12-bit SP sound 100%, with more features and workflow improvements than you can shake a stick at
One of those boxes with a user interface made by an engineer and not a UI expert. Not for me, seen enough of that stuff in groove boxes