You should try this 10J HP challenge with less bore, enough less bore to get a 7K redline so the car doesn't explode and without an intercooler, because the intercooler adds restriction to the system, also try lowering the fuel mix, and compression, while raising the turbo boost.
i think the issue with overheating is that you might have kept the stock cooling airflow. there is not much downside to raising it, so you should next time. also the cooling flaps addition in that same menu
The biggest thing that gets me is the fact that you got ~6% thermal efficiency. You somehow made an internal combustion engine with the same thermal efficiency of a steam engine from the 1850s.
Well I mean its making the same amount of power as a top fuel dragster and ICE designs generally get less efficient as they get more powerful unless you make them way bigger.
if you dont want the engine to blow you can mess with the engine (camso_engine) jbeam file and crank the cooling and durability up to 500% and it'll live
the finnickyness is because the engine performance graphs have random noise blended into them, and with higher performance you get more oscillation in power (even if its proportionally the same). SO licking a slider back and forth can be used to optimize.
yeah this is the only way to get cars with more than like 2000hp to not instantly overheat. not even hard to edit either, the easy way is changing thermals enabled to false, or just adding some zeros to the numbers for radiator and oil effectiveness.
Hey so, kinda late but i always had this question How do you edit your automation car in Beam? Do you edit it in game or in the files, or...? Because i feel like i am missing alot of stuff because of the beam export can screw up my car...
Hello! I recently have made a v16 capable of 5,076 HP, but unfortunately my piston and conrods have a lot of stress. (Right two) and I’m having trouble. Any tips?
i made a 10200 hp engine that has 0-1% stress at full power,it uses nitromethane,and no reasonable body will *ever* fit that engine and survive,but it is absolutely obscenely powerful,i tried it in a body that was big enough to hold this engine,the tires immediately shredded themselves lol
Dragster engines on average have about 11,000 hp and after every run the crew replaces the spark plugs due to them burning out in the first 4 seconds of full throttle
not just the plugs, the clutch welds itself together, rods get stress cracks, valves start to tulip. The whole engine gets looked over and most things replaced before the next run.
i got ridiculously close one time, Temperature and durability seemed to be the limiting factor, as i could get over 10K with a higher RPM but then the turbine decided to go Nuclear
Just got this game today. Its been in my wish list for years but i saw it was on sale along with the 16 cylinder engine DLC So i thought WTH. Looks fun.
Love your content but the sliders on the wheels in automation dont do a thing in beamng only the tuning part does matter the fixture part is only cosmetic. So you could habe thin tires with crazy grip by making them wide af but making them thiner in the fixture tab
You had Experimental Physics enabled, doesn't that mean you have to had vents/grills to have any cooling? Might be why it overheated so quick. Also the 1946 coupe body can take the largest engine if you choose the right suspension setup.
You can go into the engine file and set thermal damage to false. With the help of a mod in beamng, you can change the automation tires for beamng drag tires which have a lot more grip
What's probably happening when you raise the boost and lose power, is youre more than likely getting a "temperature too high for headers" problem, and it changes the graph to the rpm where it happens
If you change the gas to a leaded Rae gas it's meant for high boost applications so it helps keep it cooler. In real world that's what we use on the track only since it's $10 a gallon for 110 octane...fml
Is there any way to set up compound turbos in this game, if so you'd get more hp out of twin compound turbos than out of quad turbos. At least that's how it works in real life, I know nothing about this game so, just wondering if it works the same in this game.
That is over 35% more powerful than a stock GE ES44AC, for those who are unfamiliar, just three of these 4,400 Diesel-Electric Locomotive, and if that isn’t enough, only one of those things includes Turbocharged 16-Cylinder, V-shaped engines with catalytic exhaust emission control technology, high-performance heat exchangers, a turbine-driven air compressor, AND a regenerative dynamic braking system, so if I say that whatever your monstrosity is, is impressive, I couldn’t get any more serious than that…jeez!
They should add nitromethane fuel, as that's what Top Fuel dragsters use. And with this much power you could probably just keep the engine in top gear all the time. Top Fuel dragsters make this much power and they only have one gear.
You could go into the engines jbeam file and find the max torque rating, max overtourqe damage, head gasket, piston ring and connecting rod damage threshold and just add a bunch of 0's to them it should work, also if you find the thermals enabled line then change it to false and it will keep the engine at optimum temp nomater what
Hey Flux, do you have any ideas for collabing with other autobeam youtubers soon? Fillman, Twinturbros and the rest of us are looking forward to playing with more youtubers
I think... if you want to try making more power you should try to make it hit 10500 rpm, that's the limit where race intake caps its max torque and so easier hp below and in 10500, maybe you should try decreaing stroke for that. Then max size turbo? Both compressor and turbine, and a lot of psi. Now the problem is heat, you can only try 2 things for that, rich fuel/air mixture and lower compression.. you can improve it also by increasing exhaust diameter if that's restrictive, but i guess you will have it already maxed. Also, cam springs can affect a lil, the softer you can, the better (to a point of course, if it's too soft it won't run good). About spark, i am not sure if you lower it it will cool down the engine a lil, usually i try max it cause it's cool, but sometimes by lowering it a lil you can get some hp (weird)
Ignition timing works off the peak power rpm if you hover over it it should read what rpm it’s peak power is at so normally setting it to make peak power at the rpm you are producing peak power at boosts the hp you make at that rpm
Not to be mean, but the tune on that engine must absolutely suck, like seriously, something is wrong. I tried throwing a 12 litre V12 together in the past 20 minutes and it's sitting at pretty much 6000HP with bottom end at +15 (similar numbers at +10 but doesn't want to rev on dyno), other categories are at 0 quality. You need to get more out of this dude, this needs to be a 12k engine at the very least :D
@@automotiveflux So do I, but tbh I'd rather just make my own than copy the parts one by one and then fiddle with the settings. Seriously, tune it, maybe play with backpressure on the exhaust a bit, the potential is there if you're willing to put the effort it and it could be the 3rd part of this V16 build.
Next we shoot for the moon.
I think u might get there with the amount of torque in that thing
Could you modifiy the beam files so the car isnˋt a driving grenade?
I didn't know you can build a rocket ship in BeamNG! lol
You should try this 10J HP challenge with less bore, enough less bore to get a 7K redline so the car doesn't explode and without an intercooler, because the intercooler adds restriction to the system, also try lowering the fuel mix, and compression, while raising the turbo boost.
i think the issue with overheating is that you might have kept the stock cooling airflow. there is not much downside to raising it, so you should next time. also the cooling flaps addition in that same menu
Sounds like torque is the limiting factor on that engine. Try reducing stroke a little and rev it higher for the same hp but less torque
Flywheels, am I right???
F1 engines used over square engines to get those beautiful V10/12 engines, for a real-world example
High rpm is limited by the turbo normally at those levels of boost in my experience 😢
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The biggest thing that gets me is the fact that you got ~6% thermal efficiency.
You somehow made an internal combustion engine with the same thermal efficiency of a steam engine from the 1850s.
Where did you see that? But only 6% thermal efficiency is weird
Well I mean its making the same amount of power as a top fuel dragster and ICE designs generally get less efficient as they get more powerful unless you make them way bigger.
You know it's been a while since you've played automation when the whole turbo menu looks completely different
for some reason i dont have the different turbo menu is it just for the v16?
@@risotdi if you want the new turbo menu, you have to enable the beta. Search up how to get new automation beta and watch a tutorial
@@thefrenchcommander5770 thx already got it i just forgot to edit comment
if you dont want the engine to blow you can mess with the engine (camso_engine) jbeam file and crank the cooling and durability up to 500% and it'll live
the finnickyness is because the engine performance graphs have random noise blended into them, and with higher performance you get more oscillation in power (even if its proportionally the same). SO licking a slider back and forth can be used to optimize.
Ew
8:08 is that a freaking SHOE???
I think it's a carnival bumper car but it could be a shoe
@@automotiveflux that reminds me of that skate car you made once lol
On race engines dropping the stroke for some more rpm would probably help since rpm is a part of the equation
My guy, you literally put a train engine into this car.
You can make it more fun and reliable by editing the j beams a bit, like increasing radiator effectiveness, maximum engine temps and so on
yeah this is the only way to get cars with more than like 2000hp to not instantly overheat. not even hard to edit either, the easy way is changing thermals enabled to false, or just adding some zeros to the numbers for radiator and oil effectiveness.
Hey so, kinda late but i always had this question
How do you edit your automation car in Beam? Do you edit it in game or in the files, or...? Because i feel like i am missing alot of stuff because of the beam export can screw up my car...
I think you could have gotten a bit more by using twin scroll turbos instead of variable geometry
I'll have to try it
Also isn’t standard geometry also better?
Silly. Completely totally silly. No real world application. We love it. Thanks.
Managed to make a 4000hp 400mph car that costs under 2 million and non of the parts are stressed.
Intercooler inside the cockpit
nice
Hello! I recently have made a v16 capable of 5,076 HP, but unfortunately my piston and conrods have a lot of stress. (Right two) and I’m having trouble. Any tips?
Try some of the other piston types and don't be afraid of the quality sliders
Reduce the stroke of the motor
Use the forged pistons not the lightweight forged
i made a 10200 hp engine that has 0-1% stress at full power,it uses nitromethane,and no reasonable body will *ever* fit that engine and survive,but it is absolutely obscenely powerful,i tried it in a body that was big enough to hold this engine,the tires immediately shredded themselves lol
Dragster engines on average have about 11,000 hp and after every run the crew replaces the spark plugs due to them burning out in the first 4 seconds of full throttle
not just the plugs, the clutch welds itself together, rods get stress cracks, valves start to tulip. The whole engine gets looked over and most things replaced before the next run.
@@enallane5538 thank you for sharing
Thoroughly pointless engine.
I love it!
Might need to figure out jbeam editing to be able to use all that power.
Well done, sir!
:DDDDDD
i got ridiculously close one time, Temperature and durability seemed to be the limiting factor, as i could get over 10K with a higher RPM but then the turbine decided to go Nuclear
Just got this game today. Its been in my wish list for years but i saw it was on sale along with the
16 cylinder engine DLC So i thought WTH. Looks fun.
XD THE ENGINE NAMING INTRO IS PRICELESS
0:04 where can I get that sick car
Love your content but the sliders on the wheels in automation dont do a thing in beamng only the tuning part does matter the fixture part is only cosmetic. So you could habe thin tires with crazy grip by making them wide af but making them thiner in the fixture tab
Let’s gooo!
How did you fix the chassis sticking out? I made a car with this body and I still have it like that
I hid the chassis in the advanced options
You could add some vents and aero stuff to make it handle better and to cool it down properly
My previously most powerful engine was 5k hp, with the newest update I got to 9500, some stuff has really changed while I've been gone
Update: hit 10k whoo
I'm surprised you're using imperial power, and metric torque :P
The duality of man
You had Experimental Physics enabled, doesn't that mean you have to had vents/grills to have any cooling? Might be why it overheated so quick. Also the 1946 coupe body can take the largest engine if you choose the right suspension setup.
I'll have to check that
Mans needs to create the most balanced car possible, or maybe the most reliable
Anyone could tell me which version of automation is this? Or if its the latest one?
How do you have the option for more turbos?
What did u use to cut the body?
what mods are you using on automation? those look sweet
It's the beta branch
500cu Hemi, nitromethane, and a big ass blower, but you can really only use the engine once lmao
there is a mod called "cheat panel" and it allows the engine to be unbreakable, sadly not updated to this version of beam yet
I'm trying to Make a 10k hp engine that doesn't have turbine issues and I can't get over 9450hp EDIT: 9,600hp 99% stress
Whats mods do you use for all those options?
You can go into the engine file and set thermal damage to false. With the help of a mod in beamng, you can change the automation tires for beamng drag tires which have a lot more grip
What's probably happening when you raise the boost and lose power, is youre more than likely getting a "temperature too high for headers" problem, and it changes the graph to the rpm where it happens
A solution to this it to change the turbo tune settings.
editing the files of the car is maybe an option to make it work
devel 16 doesnt look so unreasonable now does it
If you change the gas to a leaded Rae gas it's meant for high boost applications so it helps keep it cooler. In real world that's what we use on the track only since it's $10 a gallon for 110 octane...fml
Is there any way to set up compound turbos in this game, if so you'd get more hp out of twin compound turbos than out of quad turbos. At least that's how it works in real life, I know nothing about this game so, just wondering if it works the same in this game.
you should be able to take a look at the .jbeam file in notepad
its not hard to modify you just need to find the cooling and durability numbers
That is over 35% more powerful than a stock GE ES44AC, for those who are unfamiliar, just three of these 4,400 Diesel-Electric Locomotive, and if that isn’t enough, only one of those things includes Turbocharged 16-Cylinder, V-shaped engines with catalytic exhaust emission control technology, high-performance heat exchangers, a turbine-driven air compressor, AND a regenerative dynamic braking system, so if I say that whatever your monstrosity is, is impressive, I couldn’t get any more serious than that…jeez!
That's some turbo lag
They should add nitromethane fuel, as that's what Top Fuel dragsters use. And with this much power you could probably just keep the engine in top gear all the time. Top Fuel dragsters make this much power and they only have one gear.
Well there's DevMeth, which is 200 octane. The highest "normal" fuel is 130 octane Ethanol.
there's a super radiator mod, it adds radiators that cant overheat. pretty useful.
this, or you can edit the engine efficiency to be 1
Make one with a 3 speed with long gearing (if you want)
Meanwhile AR12 put a 100,000 horsepower engine in a mine cart
You could go into the engines jbeam file and find the max torque rating, max overtourqe damage, head gasket, piston ring and connecting rod damage threshold and just add a bunch of 0's to them it should work, also if you find the thermals enabled line then change it to false and it will keep the engine at optimum temp nomater what
Top Fuel moment
Next time try and make a car with the most horsepower with out anything wrong with it no considers and no red Everything dark green.
so i tried the exact same tune, it kinda didn't work
Did this update just come out? Was playing a couple weeks ago and didn't have new engine options
This is the Alpha version of Automation
what version do you have. I have different version and cant find the newest can u help please thx
Check out the Alpha 4.2 on steam, you will have to opt into it
@@automotiveflux I have got LCV 4.2.22 how to get alpha 4.2 i cant fing it
Now, what would happen with really long gears on this one? You'd have a freight engine in a car.
Sad thing is it would be so relatively slow on launch with that
how do you get quad turbos?
It's in the game
@@automotiveflux i only have single and twin
try modifying the files of the engine to see what it would be like if overheating and the gears wasn't a problem
Hey Flux, do you have any ideas for collabing with other autobeam youtubers soon? Fillman, Twinturbros and the rest of us are looking forward to playing with more youtubers
I've done stuff with both of them in the past and I'm open to everyone for the future
Muye should drive this
5,000 more Horsepower and you'd be in Top Fuel categories of power
Can someone tell me how I get rid of my chassis for beamng I'm kinda new to the game
I think... if you want to try making more power you should try to make it hit 10500 rpm, that's the limit where race intake caps its max torque and so easier hp below and in 10500, maybe you should try decreaing stroke for that. Then max size turbo? Both compressor and turbine, and a lot of psi. Now the problem is heat, you can only try 2 things for that, rich fuel/air mixture and lower compression.. you can improve it also by increasing exhaust diameter if that's restrictive, but i guess you will have it already maxed. Also, cam springs can affect a lil, the softer you can, the better (to a point of course, if it's too soft it won't run good). About spark, i am not sure if you lower it it will cool down the engine a lil, usually i try max it cause it's cool, but sometimes by lowering it a lil you can get some hp (weird)
Ignition timing works off the peak power rpm if you hover over it it should read what rpm it’s peak power is at so normally setting it to make peak power at the rpm you are producing peak power at boosts the hp you make at that rpm
How about making the most powerful smallest engine?
... and then making a Pikes Peak Bugo with it.
17:15 "boys"?
you should've put the least amount of gears, cars with high power don't need them, or atleast pull off in like 5th gear
Isn’t there an indestructible engine mod?
Can you refine this engine and make it excellent at maybe 7000 or 8000 bhp?…..or less, it would be a monster that’s useable.
Remove the intercooler. Afaik it increases power in automation.
If you launch in a higher gear and shift earlier it won't blow up immediately.
Will we ever be able to create our own car shape body?
You can, it just requires Blender knowledge
Can you send me tutorial links please? 🤩 i want to try atleast
Now max it again at 11k-12k and a top fuel dragster body.
Needs more horsepower
it doesn't break the engine it stops it you can just start it again
4 valves per cylinder should get you more power, as typcaly the more than 4 valves you start to lose power
11k. I wanna see it
new update just scrapped my 10k hp build
rip
10k horsepower? My 9k horsepower 20 something liter v16 inverts itself and commits aliven't as soon as I start it up in beam
swap it in a bugo, the engine is longer than the car
You should try manual gearing instead, maybe if you change to higher gears you might have more luck surviving
I’ve gotten 15,000hp before it broke
you sound like thespiffingbritt
I have no v16 and I don’t know why can somepody help
It's DLC
0-60 in 0.4 seconds!!!!!!!
Not to be mean, but the tune on that engine must absolutely suck, like seriously, something is wrong. I tried throwing a 12 litre V12 together in the past 20 minutes and it's sitting at pretty much 6000HP with bottom end at +15 (similar numbers at +10 but doesn't want to rev on dyno), other categories are at 0 quality.
You need to get more out of this dude, this needs to be a 12k engine at the very least :D
If it sucks so much then try to beat it, I know it's possible
@@automotiveflux So do I, but tbh I'd rather just make my own than copy the parts one by one and then fiddle with the settings.
Seriously, tune it, maybe play with backpressure on the exhaust a bit, the potential is there if you're willing to put the effort it and it could be the 3rd part of this V16 build.
please let us download the car i beg
how
Magic
bruh i got 11k hp with v12
Send me the tune
@@automotiveflux i dont have it anymore im sorry game got corroped
i feel bad now
btw im a huge fan
i will recreate it
i have already done this i was 2nd
You could of fixed all the issues with jbeam editing smh
First
That engine is weak my miata has more hp