I will say this. For me who did not had chance to play Original Nier Replicant/Gestalt, visiting library for the first time in Nier Automata filled with with sense of something heavy, like this place is important. And God was I not wrong after I got Remaster of Nier.
exactly, the same as me when I went to underground cave that have kaine shack resemblence, feels like something was going on in the past, the atmosphere is on whole other level. When I check the lore, holy moly......
just playing Nier Replicant now and now I get a LOT of references in Nier Automata about the past, just now it clicked to me that the robots with masks in Nier Automata are basically the masked men in Facade, man, I'll have to see every single detail now after I finish Replicant, that game is awesome, really
Library scene is something on another level of storytelling. Not only It's a reference to the first game it is indeed very heavy and meaningful in Automata. The most intelligent yorha unit 9S trying to discover the truth through slaughter and violence losing his sanity while experimental rogue yorha unit actually became wise and close to humanity because through her own path she discovered the importance of compassion, she learned how to move forward. It's insane how this game became so popular because of 2B underskirt view but there is a hidden gem that makes this game truly beatiful. And It's A2. Eternal respect to the developers team for making this character and this awesome game.
Wish I played Replicant first, but it’s indeed hilarious how this game is mostly known for looking up 2B’s skirt. But no surprising considering Blade Runner 2049 is mostly known for Ana De Armas. Lot of lonely dudes/pervs out there lol
@@SeFFiroth59_Eky even though my hopes weren't too high for Reincarnation, I was still dissapointed to see how much grinding was needed to pass a single level.
@@sorryyourenotawinner2506 in my opinion replicant was really boring compared to automata, especially having to replay the same part multiple times just for a few new cutscenes
@@nicogalax I really liked it because you played as 9S and you saw the story from his perspective while in replicant you have like 3 plays with just nier
@@rokosikic2961 Imagine if route B/C/D for Nier Replicant had you take the perspective of other characters, like Kainé, Emil and finally Devola. That would be amazing.
I’ve played Gestalt years before Automata. When I’ve arrived at the library in Automata, I was feeling very nostalgic and awe…best game ever, nier franchise
the NieR franchise, Assassin's Creed 1 - unity, and the Metal Gear Solid saga are without a doubt my all-time favorites, they portray very well what humanity is, where human conflicts come from and how we are free to decide how we choose make history by living with the consequences of it, whether glorious or tragic
I used to like ac when i was younger because of the theme/ezio/history but i dont think it stands near nier/metal gear. I know its an old comment but id like to listen to what makes it good if you have time... Because it really fell off for me as just a ubisoft game title
@@HinamiMel hm, I'm somewhat in the same boat but I find the fact they're able to utilize all these real places with such ease is a feat imo. Nier and MGS however just have much better storytelling. Not that the AC games are bad by any means
I was kinda hoping in the ending E section of replicant, that when you got to the underground copied world, that you could hopefully see automatas copied city down below, like deep below. or better yet I was hoping you could see "the tower" in its infancy somewhere in the far far distance, sort of growing or manifesting. idk, small things like that are cool to me. but fret not, automata doesn't directly have repeat locations from replicant, BUT in the novels, there's 2 short stories. 1 where the visit the lost shrine, and 1 where they vist the barren temple. both stories are about separate times 2B....has to do her duty.
@@ciztime51uhm... Emil's secret home is inside a cave, he made it his home after the events of Replicant when his head was launched and flew far away. In his cave, Emil reconstructed Kaine 's shack to keep the memory of her. That's it :(
for new players the story is a sad.. for those who knew everything from the beginning it's a tragedy When i look at reality nier isn't far from how real life is when civilizations culminate to reach a pantheon before their fall down in human history.
@@Pinky_Piie well in terms of where NieR actually begins, that's ending E of drakengard 1. where the established yoko taro multiverse begins, is drakengard 3. with currently only the drakengard and NieR series being part of that established multiverse. voice of cards is currently unknown in terms of whether it's part of the multiverse of yoko taro.
I'm glad that I played Automata first then Nier: Replicant. You just have vague feeling of what going on in each game so it didnt spoil the mood, especially when it come to the library (and the Twin story).
I feel like Nier was the stepping stone for how Automatas story would be done. They hit super similar beats but automata takes it many steps further in streamlining the playthrough process while also giving so much context to the different routes themselves. Nier is definitely easier for someone to just pick up without much complexity in combat but Automatas system goes super deep. Its damn near a perfect game as it has an immaculate story with immaculate combat.
@@132478699 I have always had a very similar opinion. NieR Replicant is by all means a masterpiece. It's a work of art, and a work of art of its time. But, it's also really unpolished and a little bit shallow compared to its 2017 successor. I remember when I claimed Replicant was like "a beta test version of automata", I offended a lot of Replicant fans whenever I said that. I am aware that putting it like that is very harsh and is actually quite incorrect since both games sport different characters, story and OST. But there's 0 credibility for someone who wants to claim automata isn't more polished, finished, and either simply, or harshly put, automata is just the all around better of the 2 games. Peoples opinions on the story and characters between the 2 games are their own opinions, and they are entitled to them. But automata objectively built upon what replicant did, and did so 10 fold. Even with ver 1.22 the OST still isn't dynamic like automatas, and still reuses way too many songs; both in how many times they're played in separate moments of the game (like kaine salvation, emil sacrifice), and also how many songs are repeats on the official ost, just slightly tweaked, like all the various remixes of yonah, dispossesion, the hills of radiant winds leitmotiff gets recycled a lot, and there's some others I think too. Here's a comparison of automata and replicant OST put simply, just from a technical standpoint. Replicant: yonah in all its versions is just a solo instrumental (no vocals) version of ashes of dreams. Dance of the evanescent is just yonah/ashes of dreams as a waltz. Overall because of this, ashes of dreams essentially appears in the game like 6 times or more. That's 6 official songs on an ost being taken up by 1 song and it's various remixes. Those remixes are counted as official songs. Whereas in automata, those remixes would just be considered "quiet, medium, dynamic, vocals, no vocals" and some songs Even have "become as gods, this cannot continue" remixes. Then factor in that you can mix and match which things play at once (like pairing vocals/no vocals, variously with quiet, medium, dynamic versions of the song) So essentially what I'm getting at is, you could argue what are considered "full songs" on replicants ost, could just be considered small remixes on automata because the official automata ost includes no remixes, just the dynamic versions of the songs. Then there's combat which I won't even need to get into. It's just obvious since you can actually do combos between weapon types and which slot the weapons are assigned to will change each weapons moveset. Meanwhile that's not present in replicant. Then there's the fact that replicant goes through the same exact story every time in every playthrough, just with new info each time. Route C/D could all just be fit into route B. With ending C/D being conditional endings. And E being gotten by getting all previous endings. Automata actually has real new content by route C/D. And it's the actual meat and potatoes of the game too at that. Then factor in that in replicant you need to collect all weapons to go beyond route B and in automata you don't, and you have 1 game with horrible pacing issues, and the other game flows like water.
@@132478699 and from narrative aspect. replicant touches lightly, and briefly on some existentialism with the whole shades reveal. but that's very small and overall not that powerful, since at the end of the day, your characters are people too, and shades have hurt you and your loved ones. so it's really not that much of a horrible existential dread moment. replicant just dips it's toes into the depression pond. it dabbles heavily with sadness though. automata on the other hand is both very sad, and heavily depressing. existential themes taking center stage and tying into each characters own suffering in the game really helps accomplish this. both games feel like "NieR", like "yoko taro" but it feels like automata is the most "NieR" of the 2 NieR games, and is the most "yoko taro" of all his games. drakengard feels like yoko taro entering a phase of finding what he loves to make. it's like an introduction of what he began as, as a creator. then we come to NieR replicant. this is where it feels like he found his niche. he found what style he enjoys best. or simply put, he found "his style" and in automata it feels like he fully embraced and perfected his style. because automata is styled the same way replicant is in its execution and overall presentation and format, but it's to the extreme. it's amplified. people thought replicants camera changes were crazy? boom, automata with the seamless camera transitions, and multiple in quick succession. replicants genre changes? boom, hack and slash, arcade hacking mini games, shoot em up sections, side scrollers, bullet hells, visual novel sections. (oh I forgot to mention automata has an algorithm that can transfer any ost being played, into chiptune versions, so count that towards the list of things automatas OST has over replicants) replicants got bosses with sad backstories? well welcome back, there's more now! over half of replicants lore being hidden in a book and a play? well God diggity damn son, automata has like 80% of its lore hidden in multiple novels, stage plays, like 2 script readings, 2 world guides, a collectors edition artbook, and in crossovers with other games. there's even more actually but I'm just forgetting the other formats that yoko taro has used to spill some lore into. replicant having 3 main/central characters? automata also has 3, but now you can play as all 3! I really liked replicant (apart from grinding for the platinum trophy, oh God), but I REALLY loved Automata. automata has like 2 maybe 3 flaws, and they practically don't even count because 2 of them are just technical things. 1. bushes/assets popping in and out of existence, especially in the city ruins. they should release a patch for this. it's an easy fix, especially now with next gen. 2. resolution being locked to 1080p. they should increase it to 4k. it annoys me seeing fuzzy edges on character models. would love to see a more crisp looking automata. 3. this is actually not a flaw, just would be nice to have. more side story content being included. replicant did this with ver 1.22 adding the little mermaid side story, and ending E. automata should add 2 short stories called "memory cage" and "memory thorn". these 2 side stories are ESSENTIAL to understanding 2B and 9S as individual characters, as well as understanding their relationship. so many replicant fans complain about automata not "characterizing" it's characters enough. well memory cage and memory thorn fixes the majority of the missing info you need to fully appreciate 2 of the 3 main characters. they could add flashbacks for A2s past that are visuals from her side story YoRHa ver 1.5 (otherwise known as the pearl harbor descent records). this short story is actually in the game in a text section in the resistance camp, but it's just the text, and I don't believe it's word for word. there's a manga that adapts this specific short story since it's so long of a short story, and it gives the story visuals of course. flashbacks/nightmares for A2 would help connect her to this story more since it's COMPLETELY missable in the game. you can just walk by the terminal in the resistance camp dozens of times and never know there's a whole essential character backstory just sitting there in the hub area. automatas lore is so easy to miss and ridiculously hard to piece together that it's no wonder that replicant fans complain about automatas story being too complicated or hard to understand.
It was the other way around for me, I just couldn't care less about Automata characters (didn't do most of the sidequests, but the ones I did add something to their characters), the story was better in Automata but yeah I still prefer Emil, Nier, Kaine and WEISS (best character)
@@nicogalax I can get that as when I played replicant, which was my first time playing OG nier, I think the characters felt much more human and relatable, and I think that was the point. The androids are suppose to be more stiff until they start to figure things out. I'd probably agree though, I love Replicants characters more in the end. Weiss, Emil, and Kaines voice actors/actress did S+ work to make them feel alive.
I played Nier Gestalt way before Automata was released and when I’ve reached the library in Automata, the feeling that I felt that time was something else. And now, Ive just started playing Replicant and going back to the Library and the town and everything is really nostalgic to me. Nier series is truly my best game of all time.
I first played Automata and currently playing Replicant. No wonder that library is so freaking familiar. I don’t want to finish this video now as I feel there’s massive spoilers ahead. I’m gonna return to this after finishing Replicant.
Its funny how a "side project" of Square Enix manages to be a better game than FFXV where they spend most of their time. It is gotten to a point that it receives a well deserve sequels and anime too.
I did the same but feel the opposite. Replicant was so good but Automata is quite a bit deeper than Replicant and delves into more themes and philosophies. Music was about equal to me. When I played Replicant I missed a few tracks from Automata and vice versa. Characters is about equal as well though replicant does have a bit more development, again Automata just goes a bit deeper. Story is where I think Automata takes the biggest edge though, it had that vagueness in details that I love in stories while still having a good direct plot. I think I'm gonna have to go replay both of them now.
@@MrKing-qd7gi agreed on everything but the characters, replicant's are far better 9s feels like a dummy npc untill you start his story, A2 is nearly non existent most of the game and B2's story cant be compared to any of the 3 main characters in replicant
@@iR4ng3z I just think that Replicant was more personal with it's characters while Automata was more nuanced with them. Easier to get attached to replicant's, but there's more to look into with Automata's. That's how it feels for me anyways.
Interesting to note that the library is the exact same mesh used in Replicant except for the window molding in the main area and the books in Popola's office. Kinda makes me wonder if they had intentions to use it more or in a different context.
not a true 1 to 1 comparison but still a great video all the same, just wished more replicant representation was preserved in automata too bad Adam only remade the library and not the entire village that would've been trippy.
@Liquid Schwartz I mean, if you are not able to actually play it cause you feel bad or similar, you don't have to. Put your health and mental health first, always
since I liked Automata, I got the chance to rent the original Nier. To be honest, I didn't find the game appealing between the low ps3 graphics, slow gameplay and english voice work (most of them were OK, except the main character's voice). Which is why I'm glad they remastered the game and even got a different developer to make the gameplay as good as Platinum's Automata. I was really glad they added japanese dub and free black costumes to download, similar to 2B and 9S's wear. Even the extra ending connecting to Automata was mind blowing to the very end.
I played NieR Gestalt (2010) before NieR Automata and then I played the remake version of NieR Replicant. I much rather prefer NieR Gestalt/Replicant over NieR Automata solely because of the story and music and the fact it is criminally underrated. I didn't really enjoy playing Automata because it got boring and slow at times for me and I didn't apreciate playing part A twice instead of going to part B after beating the first part. It sucks that people like Automata more and played Automata before NieR Gestalt/Replicant. I really wish NieR Gestalt/Replicant was apreciated more but sadly it isn't.
Would it be possible to see a comparison between Nier replicant and Drakengard 3? Just to see how far the remake has improved compared to its direct successor
I hope Automata will get the Replicant 2021 treatment for its 10th anniversary. Not a remake, not a remaster, as I always say: something truly magical in between.
Not sure why but Nier world feel so full of existential dreads and memory compared to Automata that feel like peaceful apocalyptic world. Both very amazing game I just prefer Automata combat because it made by platinum
Ambos son increibles juegos, tal vez Automata sea mejor en su gameplay pero hay que admitir que en su nueva version Replicant mejoro mucho la jugabilidad
No lo pude jugar al no tener play3 pero vi un video y se ve claramente la mejora. Pudo haberse mejorado aun más pero quitaria esencia en la historia que personalmente me atrapo más que el automata.
What are you talking about? First Replicant ver. 1.22... is a remastered and not a remake. Second it is a remastered of the original NieR Replicant which was only released in japan since we got NieR Gestalt in the west.
idk if you're cracking a joke or not. but no. They're both set in japan. automatas city is Tokyo, the beginning of replicant in the snowing city, is Tokyo I believe. specifically shinjuku. the people alive during replicant are not alive during automata since there's over 8000 years of gap time between the 2 games. automatas city is just the ruins of Tokyo, it's not something that people from replicant built over time.
But my question is why? What is the significance of Popola’s library returning? Is YorHa descended from the project gestalt androids from 8 thousand years prior? Also why is there no magic from Drakengard in Automata? Did Shades vanish? Why are there skyscrapers in Automata when civilization was reduced to medieval tier in Gestalt/Replicant. Did android civilization advance just like human civilization?
"What is the significance of Popola’s library returning?" If you're talking about the scene in the Tower, N2 (the little girl representing the machines) has access to old human data, and they found that libraries were how humans stored data. It just so happened to resemble Popola's library. "Is YorHa descended from the project gestalt androids from 8 thousand years prior?" No, just other models of androids (there were more other than the Devola and Popola ones, think like the ones at the resistance camp). They were losing morale fighting for Earth after humanity went extinct so they created YoRHa. "Why is there no magic from Drakengard in Automata?" The magic from Drakengard, or what they call maso, is what causes the white chlorination syndrome, effectively being a disease to people in the Nier world. However there is magic, in a way, but only because of Emil and Halua, as they were experimented on with maso particles to become weapons. "Did Shades vanish?" Not instantly, the last Shade died a few hundred years after Nier killed the Shadowlord. "Why are there skyscrapers in Automata when civilization was reduced to medieval tier in Gestalt/Replicant." Gestalt/Replicant had modern decrepit architecture as well. It's noticeable at the temple and Seafront. I don't recall if there was lore reasons for them going medieval, it's just how Replicants thought they should live like now, I guess. "Did android civilization advance just like human civilization?" No, but they maintained civilization in the event that they'll one day find a way to bring back humanity
Yes 100%. You don't NEED to play both to enjoy one of them alone as they have different characters but to fully understand and appreciate the story you definitely want to as they tie directly to eachother. Plus they are both amazing anyways.
Nope. Every song in the original Nier is incredible right off the bat. Automata has an impressive OST, but it never reaches the emotional heights of the OG soundtrack and almost the entire time in game is spent with the extremely minimalist versions of songs.
@@radicalstanza3614 Did you see video? It isn't OG!!!!!!! Its a REMAKE, with SHITTY music. OG have a gorgeous soundtrack, Automata is beautiful soundtrack, REMAKE VER -1.990... - DAMN AWFUL soundtrack, and you agree with this, if you have EAR on your head, lmao.
@@Le_Rappel_des_oiseaux I love these two games and I don't want to start seeing Automata ugly because of people as undesirable as you, but RepliCant's music is much better, only songs like Shadowlord, Snow in Summer, Song of the ancients, they already beat it very easy to any of Automata
@@Cherno_editz Are you drunk? I wrote that the music in the video is not from the Replicant, but from the remake, since you did not watch the video itself. The music in the remake is HORRIBLE. You, apparently, only listen to all sorts of shit like rap and noise, so you can’t understand this.
@@Le_Rappel_des_oiseaux To begin with, calm down your arrogance, you can't know anything, just suspect, the remake's music isn't all bad but the original's is good, one question I have is how you can play these beautiful games if your behavior is equal to or worse than that of a monkey, you cannot designate what people's tastes are, after all you do not know me nor I know you and I am not interested in doing so, after all your behavior here defines what you are a totally imbecile and conceited being, and if it is not, well, you see how stupid it is to designate the personality of someone who you will surely meet in your life
I guess it's not, although automata and replicant took place in kingdom of day, they are in different region. And shadowlord's castle was a apartment looking building, not a real castle like forest kingdom
@@iyaajadah8703 there are big doors in the forest kingdom, it’s not the actual castle but it’s before you go in it. it’s hard to explain, but it looks like the hallways when you’re fighting the final bosses in replicant
your best chance at falling in love with these games is by playing Automata first since it's the better of the 2 games. I never would've played replicant if i didn't played automata first. also in automata, popolas library is in route C/D where you enter the tower.
@@saltysgene584 I have already read the lore from drakengard until automata in some reviews and I can confirm that xD Although I want to get the original released games in it both versions also... (^^)/
@@vayorilillubi Did you watch the video? the titles are both on screen. Nier Replicant is the original remake/remaster Nier Automata is the sequel Original Nier Replicant has been out for about a decade, the remaster came out last year. Nier Automata has been out since 2017 and also has dlc.
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I will say this.
For me who did not had chance to play Original Nier Replicant/Gestalt, visiting library for the first time in Nier Automata filled with with sense of something heavy, like this place is important. And God was I not wrong after I got Remaster of Nier.
exactly, the same as me when I went to underground cave that have kaine shack resemblence, feels like something was going on in the past, the atmosphere is on whole other level. When I check the lore, holy moly......
Yep, that happened with me as well
Yea, but like... It has no importance in automata... Its a refference....
@@avendurree that's the beauty of it. It's only a silent reference for you to feel.
Same bro, I was like, "am I supposed to know what this is?" So happy I played automata then replicant
Honestly popola library returning in automata is just really cool
Where was that? I played Automata first, and I don’t recall where that was. I’m assuming it was the “copied city”
@@mrcat3493 its in route c
@@mrcat3493 its in the tower
@@mrcat3493 don't say you played only route A...
@@raivin7172 no, I played a lot of the routes. It’s been a long time since I revisited it.
just playing Nier Replicant now and now I get a LOT of references in Nier Automata about the past, just now it clicked to me that the robots with masks in Nier Automata are basically the masked men in Facade, man, I'll have to see every single detail now after I finish Replicant, that game is awesome, really
Library scene is something on another level of storytelling. Not only It's a reference to the first game it is indeed very heavy and meaningful in Automata. The most intelligent yorha unit 9S trying to discover the truth through slaughter and violence losing his sanity while experimental rogue yorha unit actually became wise and close to humanity because through her own path she discovered the importance of compassion, she learned how to move forward. It's insane how this game became so popular because of 2B underskirt view but there is a hidden gem that makes this game truly beatiful. And It's A2. Eternal respect to the developers team for making this character and this awesome game.
Wish I played Replicant first, but it’s indeed hilarious how this game is mostly known for looking up 2B’s skirt. But no surprising considering Blade Runner 2049 is mostly known for Ana De Armas. Lot of lonely dudes/pervs out there lol
words can't describe my love for these 2 games
I wish I actually knew others who shared my love for the Nier games 😭
numbers can 1-10
Same here.. Waiting for 3rd game (exept reincarnation) is soooo long.
Same bro, same...
@@SeFFiroth59_Eky even though my hopes weren't too high for Reincarnation, I was still dissapointed to see how much grinding was needed to pass a single level.
Ow we just need the drakengard trilogy remastered, as that is truly where the nier story began
Drakengard 2 isn't canon
Full remake of the first one, remastered of the third
@@sorryyourenotawinner2506 so doesn’t mean we can’t get a remaster
@@sorryyourenotawinner2506 yet (also it is, look at the timeline)
@@sorryyourenotawinner2506 So is Nier since it's just a spin-off and Drakengard 3 is a prequel. It's the first game that actually matters
One of the greatest game series ever created
Weird how it all started as one of the endings to a separate ps2 game.
@@conlooka9356 And the joke ending
I think i’ve played Nier Automata 4-5 times, I might give it another go, such a beautiful game
Play Replicant/Gestalt, so much better games
@@sorryyourenotawinner2506 in my opinion replicant was really boring compared to automata, especially having to replay the same part multiple times just for a few new cutscenes
@@rokosikic2961 bruh, Automata route 2 was boring af too, that's Yoko Taro's fault who locks scenes behind multiple playthroughs
@@nicogalax I really liked it because you played as 9S and you saw the story from his perspective while in replicant you have like 3 plays with just nier
@@rokosikic2961 Imagine if route B/C/D for Nier Replicant had you take the perspective of other characters, like Kainé, Emil and finally Devola. That would be amazing.
Replicant’s music was amazing too. The music in Emil’s house always gave me chills; sad and ominous.
I’ve played Gestalt years before Automata. When I’ve arrived at the library in Automata, I was feeling very nostalgic and awe…best game ever, nier franchise
the NieR franchise, Assassin's Creed 1 - unity, and the Metal Gear Solid saga are without a doubt my all-time favorites, they portray very well what humanity is, where human conflicts come from and how we are free to decide how we choose make history by living with the consequences of it, whether glorious or tragic
You sir have a great taste. NieR AC, AND MG? 👍 I wish they'll remaster the first games of MG and release em officially on PC.
I used to like ac when i was younger because of the theme/ezio/history but i dont think it stands near nier/metal gear. I know its an old comment but id like to listen to what makes it good if you have time... Because it really fell off for me as just a ubisoft game title
@@HinamiMel hm, I'm somewhat in the same boat but I find the fact they're able to utilize all these real places with such ease is a feat imo. Nier and MGS however just have much better storytelling. Not that the AC games are bad by any means
@@amaterasumaster8781 yeah imo, no other game franchise capture the feeling of a historical city walking simulator like AC did.
I wish any of the Replicant areas could be revisited in Automata, except the replicas in the copied city.
I was kinda hoping in the ending E section of replicant, that when you got to the underground copied world, that you could hopefully see automatas copied city down below, like deep below. or better yet I was hoping you could see "the tower" in its infancy somewhere in the far far distance, sort of growing or manifesting. idk, small things like that are cool to me.
but fret not, automata doesn't directly have repeat locations from replicant, BUT in the novels, there's 2 short stories. 1 where the visit the lost shrine, and 1 where they vist the barren temple. both stories are about separate times 2B....has to do her duty.
Well there are some spots in replicant that can be find in automata too... actually quite some places
@@ciztime51 are there? I didn't spot anything familiar
@@eldarius237 Kaines Home is in Automata or Emils secret home in replicant is also in automata and some other spots
@@ciztime51uhm... Emil's secret home is inside a cave, he made it his home after the events of Replicant when his head was launched and flew far away. In his cave, Emil reconstructed Kaine 's shack to keep the memory of her. That's it :(
for new players the story is a sad..
for those who knew everything from the beginning it's a tragedy
When i look at reality nier isn't far from how real life is when civilizations culminate to reach a pantheon before their fall
down in human history.
From the beginning you mean drakengard 3 right? As that's where it all really began
@@Pinky_Piie well in terms of where NieR actually begins, that's ending E of drakengard 1.
where the established yoko taro multiverse begins, is drakengard 3. with currently only the drakengard and NieR series being part of that established multiverse. voice of cards is currently unknown in terms of whether it's part of the multiverse of yoko taro.
@@trevorveillette8415 Drakengard 3 is first. Is a prequel, a lot before d1
@@Pinky_Piie yes
I totally agree, playing Automata and Replicant after playing the first NieR killed me mentally.
automata was my game of the generation, nothing compares, the whole experience is just insane
I'm glad that I played Automata first then Nier: Replicant. You just have vague feeling of what going on in each game so it didnt spoil the mood, especially when it come to the library (and the Twin story).
For those who played Nier on ps3 when they reach the Copied library in Automata I'm sure we share the same feeling.
I personally got absorbed into the story and characters of Automata more and felt like the controls were better and easier in Replicant (PC)
I feel like Nier was the stepping stone for how Automatas story would be done. They hit super similar beats but automata takes it many steps further in streamlining the playthrough process while also giving so much context to the different routes themselves. Nier is definitely easier for someone to just pick up without much complexity in combat but Automatas system goes super deep. Its damn near a perfect game as it has an immaculate story with immaculate combat.
@@132478699 I have always had a very similar opinion.
NieR Replicant is by all means a masterpiece. It's a work of art, and a work of art of its time.
But, it's also really unpolished and a little bit shallow compared to its 2017 successor.
I remember when I claimed Replicant was like "a beta test version of automata", I offended a lot of Replicant fans whenever I said that. I am aware that putting it like that is very harsh and is actually quite incorrect since both games sport different characters, story and OST.
But there's 0 credibility for someone who wants to claim automata isn't more polished, finished, and either simply, or harshly put, automata is just the all around better of the 2 games.
Peoples opinions on the story and characters between the 2 games are their own opinions, and they are entitled to them. But automata objectively built upon what replicant did, and did so 10 fold.
Even with ver 1.22 the OST still isn't dynamic like automatas, and still reuses way too many songs; both in how many times they're played in separate moments of the game (like kaine salvation, emil sacrifice), and also how many songs are repeats on the official ost, just slightly tweaked, like all the various remixes of yonah, dispossesion, the hills of radiant winds leitmotiff gets recycled a lot, and there's some others I think too.
Here's a comparison of automata and replicant OST put simply, just from a technical standpoint.
Replicant: yonah in all its versions is just a solo instrumental (no vocals) version of ashes of dreams. Dance of the evanescent is just yonah/ashes of dreams as a waltz. Overall because of this, ashes of dreams essentially appears in the game like 6 times or more. That's 6 official songs on an ost being taken up by 1 song and it's various remixes.
Those remixes are counted as official songs. Whereas in automata, those remixes would just be considered "quiet, medium, dynamic, vocals, no vocals" and some songs Even have "become as gods, this cannot continue" remixes. Then factor in that you can mix and match which things play at once (like pairing vocals/no vocals, variously with quiet, medium, dynamic versions of the song)
So essentially what I'm getting at is, you could argue what are considered "full songs" on replicants ost, could just be considered small remixes on automata because the official automata ost includes no remixes, just the dynamic versions of the songs.
Then there's combat which I won't even need to get into. It's just obvious since you can actually do combos between weapon types and which slot the weapons are assigned to will change each weapons moveset. Meanwhile that's not present in replicant.
Then there's the fact that replicant goes through the same exact story every time in every playthrough, just with new info each time.
Route C/D could all just be fit into route B. With ending C/D being conditional endings. And E being gotten by getting all previous endings.
Automata actually has real new content by route C/D. And it's the actual meat and potatoes of the game too at that.
Then factor in that in replicant you need to collect all weapons to go beyond route B and in automata you don't, and you have 1 game with horrible pacing issues, and the other game flows like water.
@@132478699 and from narrative aspect. replicant touches lightly, and briefly on some existentialism with the whole shades reveal. but that's very small and overall not that powerful, since at the end of the day, your characters are people too, and shades have hurt you and your loved ones. so it's really not that much of a horrible existential dread moment.
replicant just dips it's toes into the depression pond. it dabbles heavily with sadness though.
automata on the other hand is both very sad, and heavily depressing. existential themes taking center stage and tying into each characters own suffering in the game really helps accomplish this.
both games feel like "NieR", like "yoko taro"
but it feels like automata is the most "NieR" of the 2 NieR games, and is the most "yoko taro" of all his games.
drakengard feels like yoko taro entering a phase of finding what he loves to make. it's like an introduction of what he began as, as a creator. then we come to NieR replicant. this is where it feels like he found his niche. he found what style he enjoys best. or simply put, he found "his style"
and in automata it feels like he fully embraced and perfected his style. because automata is styled the same way replicant is in its execution and overall presentation and format, but it's to the extreme. it's amplified.
people thought replicants camera changes were crazy? boom, automata with the seamless camera transitions, and multiple in quick succession.
replicants genre changes? boom, hack and slash, arcade hacking mini games, shoot em up sections, side scrollers, bullet hells, visual novel sections.
(oh I forgot to mention automata has an algorithm that can transfer any ost being played, into chiptune versions, so count that towards the list of things automatas OST has over replicants)
replicants got bosses with sad backstories? well welcome back, there's more now!
over half of replicants lore being hidden in a book and a play? well God diggity damn son, automata has like 80% of its lore hidden in multiple novels, stage plays, like 2 script readings, 2 world guides, a collectors edition artbook, and in crossovers with other games. there's even more actually but I'm just forgetting the other formats that yoko taro has used to spill some lore into.
replicant having 3 main/central characters? automata also has 3, but now you can play as all 3!
I really liked replicant (apart from grinding for the platinum trophy, oh God), but I REALLY loved Automata.
automata has like 2 maybe 3 flaws, and they practically don't even count because 2 of them are just technical things.
1. bushes/assets popping in and out of existence, especially in the city ruins. they should release a patch for this. it's an easy fix, especially now with next gen.
2. resolution being locked to 1080p. they should increase it to 4k. it annoys me seeing fuzzy edges on character models. would love to see a more crisp looking automata.
3. this is actually not a flaw, just would be nice to have. more side story content being included. replicant did this with ver 1.22 adding the little mermaid side story, and ending E.
automata should add 2 short stories called "memory cage" and "memory thorn". these 2 side stories are ESSENTIAL to understanding 2B and 9S as individual characters, as well as understanding their relationship.
so many replicant fans complain about automata not "characterizing" it's characters enough. well memory cage and memory thorn fixes the majority of the missing info you need to fully appreciate 2 of the 3 main characters.
they could add flashbacks for A2s past that are visuals from her side story YoRHa ver 1.5 (otherwise known as the pearl harbor descent records). this short story is actually in the game in a text section in the resistance camp, but it's just the text, and I don't believe it's word for word.
there's a manga that adapts this specific short story since it's so long of a short story, and it gives the story visuals of course. flashbacks/nightmares for A2 would help connect her to this story more since it's COMPLETELY missable in the game. you can just walk by the terminal in the resistance camp dozens of times and never know there's a whole essential character backstory just sitting there in the hub area.
automatas lore is so easy to miss and ridiculously hard to piece together that it's no wonder that replicant fans complain about automatas story being too complicated or hard to understand.
It was the other way around for me, I just couldn't care less about Automata characters (didn't do most of the sidequests, but the ones I did add something to their characters), the story was better in Automata but yeah I still prefer Emil, Nier, Kaine and WEISS (best character)
@@nicogalax I can get that as when I played replicant, which was my first time playing OG nier, I think the characters felt much more human and relatable, and I think that was the point. The androids are suppose to be more stiff until they start to figure things out.
I'd probably agree though, I love Replicants characters more in the end. Weiss, Emil, and Kaines voice actors/actress did S+ work to make them feel alive.
I played Nier Gestalt way before Automata was released and when I’ve reached the library in Automata, the feeling that I felt that time was something else. And now, Ive just started playing Replicant and going back to the Library and the town and everything is really nostalgic to me. Nier series is truly my best game of all time.
I first played Automata and currently playing Replicant. No wonder that library is so freaking familiar.
I don’t want to finish this video now as I feel there’s massive spoilers ahead. I’m gonna return to this after finishing Replicant.
So how is it? If good yet like automata, i'll buy too
I hope u got replicant, its so good
I just want to delete my memories and replay this 2 masterpieces, Automata is my fav game ever, but I think replicant story was better
Replicant story is so tragic.
Agree 100%
I just love how fast you are in both games. Also the music... It's sublime.
Name of what?
don’t care both games are a 10/10. I love both stories, gameplay, characters and themes within them
Its funny how a "side project" of Square Enix manages to be a better game than FFXV where they spend most of their time. It is gotten to a point that it receives a well deserve sequels and anime too.
Very cool comparisons between the Nier games.
Woah I didn't know that the white areas in NieR were direct counterparts for Replicant areas... Amazing!
My jaw dropped when I saw the library in Automata
Replicant is the superior game,characters and soundtrack,I played automata 1st didn't think Replicant,so no nostalgic factor.
I did the same but feel the opposite. Replicant was so good but Automata is quite a bit deeper than Replicant and delves into more themes and philosophies. Music was about equal to me. When I played Replicant I missed a few tracks from Automata and vice versa. Characters is about equal as well though replicant does have a bit more development, again Automata just goes a bit deeper. Story is where I think Automata takes the biggest edge though, it had that vagueness in details that I love in stories while still having a good direct plot. I think I'm gonna have to go replay both of them now.
@@MrKing-qd7gi agreed on everything but the characters, replicant's are far better
9s feels like a dummy npc untill you start his story, A2 is nearly non existent most of the game and B2's story cant be compared to any of the 3 main characters in replicant
@@iR4ng3z I just think that Replicant was more personal with it's characters while Automata was more nuanced with them. Easier to get attached to replicant's, but there's more to look into with Automata's. That's how it feels for me anyways.
Its SAD yet so TRUE. Our Own World years if not eons from now... Someone would see the empty memories of the past. And by then we WiLL be long gone.
Interesting to note that the library is the exact same mesh used in Replicant except for the window molding in the main area and the books in Popola's office. Kinda makes me wonder if they had intentions to use it more or in a different context.
I really like the nier replicant better than automata ngl
Same here
music in nier game is awesome ❤😍
Agreed
Hopefully it will be the same for the Automata anime 🤞
Animations are in the same situation. It has the same CHARACTER as music - refined, smooth, majestic, detailed and harmonious.
Idk i just love Replicant more. Its just my fav game of all time
Yes I love Nier I was lucky to play it on my Xbox 360
Same
not a true 1 to 1 comparison but still a great video all the same, just wished more replicant representation was preserved in automata too bad Adam only remade the library and not the entire village that would've been trippy.
Empecé a jugar Nier Replicant y lo estoy disfrutando más que Automata.
This soundtrack's game is actually rly good
I feel bad for those people who still haven't played these two masterpieces
@Liquid Schwartz I mean, if you are not able to actually play it cause you feel bad or similar, you don't have to. Put your health and mental health first, always
since I liked Automata, I got the chance to rent the original Nier. To be honest, I didn't find the game appealing between the low ps3 graphics, slow gameplay and english voice work (most of them were OK, except the main character's voice). Which is why I'm glad they remastered the game and even got a different developer to make the gameplay as good as Platinum's Automata. I was really glad they added japanese dub and free black costumes to download, similar to 2B and 9S's wear. Even the extra ending connecting to Automata was mind blowing to the very end.
0:20 Isn't that weapon an Engine Blade from FFXV?
OH MY GOD IT IS!!!! LOOKS EXACTLY THE SAME WOAH
Because it is! :)
It is! When you use it in NieR Atuomata it also changes your dash animation and the HUD to make it more like final fantasy's style
2 of the greatest action rpgs of all time
I played NieR Gestalt (2010) before NieR Automata and then I played the remake version of NieR Replicant. I much rather prefer NieR Gestalt/Replicant over NieR Automata solely because of the story and music and the fact it is criminally underrated. I didn't really enjoy playing Automata because it got boring and slow at times for me and I didn't apreciate playing part A twice instead of going to part B after beating the first part. It sucks that people like Automata more and played Automata before NieR Gestalt/Replicant. I really wish NieR Gestalt/Replicant was apreciated more but sadly it isn't.
NieR Replicants Library theme makes me feel cold.
replicant definitely has better storyline and music (automata is a real close second), but in every other aspect automata is still the better game
0:50 anyone know the name of the song that plays?
Song of the ancients - Popola ver.
@@Cherno_editz thank you man
Am I the only one who played nier repliclant before nier automata?
No
How did you get that costume bro (automata)
0:56 Even the cracks and the sunlight is identical.
Very good haul thank you a lot for sharing, Happy Friday dear ! Hugs and big like🤗💕
Would it be possible to see a comparison between Nier replicant and Drakengard 3? Just to see how far the remake has improved compared to its direct successor
2 Beautiful worlds. 2 Beautiful games.
I just wish these games were optimized.
Great video 👍Keep up the great work.Have a great weekend
se ve mejor¡ Gracias por la comparación¡¡😃
love replicants music so much
Hey, is the original game still recommended in 2022? I just got a playstation 3.
2010 nier is dogshit, it’s nier replicant but shitty everything and nier is the father of yonah instead.
I hope Automata will get the Replicant 2021 treatment for its 10th anniversary. Not a remake, not a remaster, as I always say: something truly magical in between.
Not sure why but Nier world feel so full of existential dreads and memory compared to Automata that feel like peaceful apocalyptic world. Both very amazing game I just prefer Automata combat because it made by platinum
Ambos son increibles juegos, tal vez Automata sea mejor en su gameplay pero hay que admitir que en su nueva version Replicant mejoro mucho la jugabilidad
No lo pude jugar al no tener play3 pero vi un video y se ve claramente la mejora. Pudo haberse mejorado aun más pero quitaria esencia en la historia que personalmente me atrapo más que el automata.
Automata tiene mejor gameplay y graficos, en lo demas el replicant se lo come
@@iR4ng3z totalmente
Won’t be better than automata, legends never die
Replicant actually looks better than Auto
Are the stories connected at all?
Replicant is the prequel and is heavily connected with automata
@@suave605Not a prequel. Automata is the sequel of the original Replicant/Gestalt.
Should I first play Replicant or Automata?
Replicant
Both games are just SO GOOD.
I need to play replicant and after finishing Automata I can’t wait to get my hands on it
SPOILER ALERT:
The stage of final boss in Replicant its the same place where 2B and 9s drops at the beginning of nier Automata
Which final boss tho? Replicant got like three of em
Funny thing: Neir Replicant is a remake of Neir back in 2010. Replicant basically means copy and remakes are copies of older things. lol
What are you talking about? First Replicant ver. 1.22... is a remastered and not a remake. Second it is a remastered of the original NieR Replicant which was only released in japan since we got NieR Gestalt in the west.
@@tuikyo Its a remake
So I played neir atomania first then the replicant so when I went to the library in replicant I had chills run down my spine
Great video and interesting to watch. Thanks for sharing!
I wish they would’ve done something with the combat in Replicant but I understand it wasn’t a Platinum games job
So is it the same place and the people in replicant got civilised and built all the buildings?
idk if you're cracking a joke or not. but no. They're both set in japan. automatas city is Tokyo, the beginning of replicant in the snowing city, is Tokyo I believe. specifically shinjuku.
the people alive during replicant are not alive during automata since there's over 8000 years of gap time between the 2 games. automatas city is just the ruins of Tokyo, it's not something that people from replicant built over time.
@@trevorveillette8415 Thank you for the clarification.
@@afnannazri1691 the desert areas are the same though, to an extent
But my question is why? What is the significance of Popola’s library returning? Is YorHa descended from the project gestalt androids from 8 thousand years prior?
Also why is there no magic from Drakengard in Automata? Did Shades vanish? Why are there skyscrapers in Automata when civilization was reduced to medieval tier in Gestalt/Replicant. Did android civilization advance just like human civilization?
At the end of Replicant all humans died.For this androids continue to build and maintain civilization so that humans can return from the moon.
"What is the significance of Popola’s library returning?" If you're talking about the scene in the Tower, N2 (the little girl representing the machines) has access to old human data, and they found that libraries were how humans stored data. It just so happened to resemble Popola's library.
"Is YorHa descended from the project gestalt androids from 8 thousand years prior?" No, just other models of androids (there were more other than the Devola and Popola ones, think like the ones at the resistance camp). They were losing morale fighting for Earth after humanity went extinct so they created YoRHa.
"Why is there no magic from Drakengard in Automata?" The magic from Drakengard, or what they call maso, is what causes the white chlorination syndrome, effectively being a disease to people in the Nier world. However there is magic, in a way, but only because of Emil and Halua, as they were experimented on with maso particles to become weapons.
"Did Shades vanish?" Not instantly, the last Shade died a few hundred years after Nier killed the Shadowlord.
"Why are there skyscrapers in Automata when civilization was reduced to medieval tier in Gestalt/Replicant." Gestalt/Replicant had modern decrepit architecture as well. It's noticeable at the temple and Seafront. I don't recall if there was lore reasons for them going medieval, it's just how Replicants thought they should live like now, I guess.
"Did android civilization advance just like human civilization?" No, but they maintained civilization in the event that they'll one day find a way to bring back humanity
The only reason both games have parity is history and storytelling.
wtf was that blue dash on a2? i only remember redish black ghost when dash
Is the lore connected?
Yes 100%. You don't NEED to play both to enjoy one of them alone as they have different characters but to fully understand and appreciate the story you definitely want to as they tie directly to eachother. Plus they are both amazing anyways.
Nier Replicant might not have the same polish as Automata but imo it's way more charming. But anyways, both games are great
Music is better in Automata - there it is much more majestic, more restrained, more valuable, more beautiful.
Nope. Every song in the original Nier is incredible right off the bat. Automata has an impressive OST, but it never reaches the emotional heights of the OG soundtrack and almost the entire time in game is spent with the extremely minimalist versions of songs.
@@radicalstanza3614 Did you see video? It isn't OG!!!!!!! Its a REMAKE, with SHITTY music. OG have a gorgeous soundtrack, Automata is beautiful soundtrack, REMAKE VER -1.990... - DAMN AWFUL soundtrack, and you agree with this, if you have EAR on your head, lmao.
@@Le_Rappel_des_oiseaux I love these two games and I don't want to start seeing Automata ugly because of people as undesirable as you, but RepliCant's music is much better, only songs like Shadowlord, Snow in Summer, Song of the ancients, they already beat it very easy to any of Automata
@@Cherno_editz
Are you drunk? I wrote that the music in the video is not from the Replicant, but from the remake, since you did not watch the video itself. The music in the remake is HORRIBLE. You, apparently, only listen to all sorts of shit like rap and noise, so you can’t understand this.
@@Le_Rappel_des_oiseaux To begin with, calm down your arrogance, you can't know anything, just suspect, the remake's music isn't all bad but the original's is good, one question I have is how you can play these beautiful games if your behavior is equal to or worse than that of a monkey, you cannot designate what people's tastes are, after all you do not know me nor I know you and I am not interested in doing so, after all your behavior here defines what you are a totally imbecile and conceited being, and if it is not, well, you see how stupid it is to designate the personality of someone who you will surely meet in your life
Both games are equally awesome, they need to release the third non-gacha game now!
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*fourth game
AUTOMATA is untouchable.
Replicant >>> it was truly a masterpiece
anyone else at some point just buy max level speed chips in automata and zoom around the map
These games are so special
Nier Replicant Vs Nier Automata : Nice Comparison
isn’t the forest kingdom also the shadowlord’s castle?
I guess it's not, although automata and replicant took place in kingdom of day, they are in different region. And shadowlord's castle was a apartment looking building, not a real castle like forest kingdom
@@iyaajadah8703 there are big doors in the forest kingdom, it’s not the actual castle but it’s before you go in it. it’s hard to explain, but it looks like the hallways when you’re fighting the final bosses in replicant
this feels kinda similar to grief for me
The gameplay in the Automata is also an order of magnitude higher.
NieR Series ❤️🎮
In automata where can I find out the popola library!? In copy city!? ... In my case I don't have played replicant yet but I hope someday
You better play Replicant first if you really want to blow your mind.
Play replicant first as it takes place before automata and you'll understand some references more
your best chance at falling in love with these games is by playing Automata first since it's the better of the 2 games.
I never would've played replicant if i didn't played automata first.
also in automata, popolas library is in route C/D where you enter the tower.
@@trevorveillette8415 Thanks
@@saltysgene584 I have already read the lore from drakengard until automata in some reviews and I can confirm that xD Although I want to get the original released games in it both versions also... (^^)/
Kaine are prettier than 2B
How he can have a different characters in outomatA??
Never played either game but I’m guess replicant takes place before automata buy 100 years? Maybe more?
Thousands of years actually
Replicant should take place somewhere around the 3000s and Automata is in the 11000s
lmao i couldn't bjgbbgaj Emil is amazing xD
Good comparation
Is this new DLC?
no these are separate games. A remaster of the original and the sequel
@@cajunseasoning1846 oh really? What is the title?? Is it out now o.o
@@vayorilillubi Did you watch the video? the titles are both on screen.
Nier Replicant is the original remake/remaster
Nier Automata is the sequel
Original Nier Replicant has been out for about a decade, the remaster came out last year. Nier Automata has been out since 2017 and also has dlc.
Who is that character in automata that don't look like 2b
reskinned a2
@@cajunseasoning1846 cool thanks
I got automata for sale and love it. Now I have to get replicant to get the full story
Greatest games ever.
Nier Automata is better and ase more beautiful music
One has Color while the other is just.. White
an imperfect replica of the original
Wait those are the same spells
Perfect👍