Where Is Everyone Else?... Sam Harris & Brian Greene

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  • @Pangburn
    @Pangburn  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

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  • @darrengagliardi1540
    @darrengagliardi1540 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    What makes so many conclude that other living beings out there should somehow be able to bend and break the laws of physics and travel to us. Given the vastness of space, it is entirely plausible that the following 2 things are both true: 1) there is intelligent life out there, and 2) they are far too distant for us to receive any sign that they exist.

    • @brianhannon
      @brianhannon วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah dude they’re obviously way too far… like ever :/ I think it’s totally possible that there’s no other life. Could be by chance that it just so happens to be no nobody else. But if there are. They’re just so incredibly far and it would be unfathomably impressive for anything to get here.

    • @machinarum
      @machinarum วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@brianhannonunless they had a head start of millions and millions of years….

    • @starfishsystems
      @starfishsystems วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      There might also be a wise sense of caution about advertising oneself as a concentration of resources.

    • @chesterdonnelly1212
      @chesterdonnelly1212 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's what I think it is. They exist but they're so far away they can't get here. There's no reason to think travelling those enormous distances can be done.

    • @stickyrubb
      @stickyrubb วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Like 'Machinarum' said, if there are civilizations out there, they could possibly be millions of years ahead of us in terms of technological advancements. Depending on what is possible in this universe, they might be able to travel so fast that these distances start to matter less and less.

  • @adamleckius2253
    @adamleckius2253 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Beautiful conversation.

  • @chrisohare9314
    @chrisohare9314 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great discussion from back in 2018 of two great minds. Would be great to hear them chat again

  • @HansZarkovPhD
    @HansZarkovPhD 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    They are out there, just having the same problems with physics we are.

    • @lhurst9550
      @lhurst9550 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Nope, there is a timing issue. Either they have come and gone, or have not evolved yet.

    • @victorjcano
      @victorjcano วันที่ผ่านมา

      IF INTELLIGENT LIFE WAS LOOKING FOR LIFE ON EARTH OUT OF THE 4.5 BILLION YEARS OF EARTH'S HISTORY, INTELLIGENT LIFE WOULD HAVE ONLY BEEN DETECTABLE FOR A LITTLE OVER 100 YEARS. THE TIME SPAN WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BROADCAST RASIO WAVES. 100 OUT OF 4.500,000.000

    • @PhysicsGuy1000
      @PhysicsGuy1000 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@lhurst9550How do you know? Maybe they live in a planet with higher gravity than Earth so the trouble is being able to actually get off of it?

    • @lhurst9550
      @lhurst9550 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@PhysicsGuy1000 Obviously I don't "know", however this is the simplest explanation that explains the current known facts.

    • @JeddieT
      @JeddieT วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@lhurst9550…It’s either ‘this or that’ is it? How disturbingly naive.
      _”The fish is the last to know it lives in water.”_
      ~ Ancient Chinese Proverb

  • @mrkutty0
    @mrkutty0 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Love how their minds work, especially Sam's ❤

  • @LucaNova101
    @LucaNova101 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    200 years ago, flying was impossible; 100 years ago, leaving the planet was impossible, so… it’s a matter of time

  • @TerryUniGeezerPeterson
    @TerryUniGeezerPeterson วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    If there are alien civilizations that are advanced enough for space travel, it's likely that they are simply too far away.

    • @machinarum
      @machinarum วันที่ผ่านมา

      Unless their departure flight was millions of years ago.

    • @starfishsystems
      @starfishsystems วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@machinarum
      No, because they would not know to travel in this particular direction. If they were millions of light years away, then the scant information that they might have about this sparse edge of the galaxy, as it began to propagate millions of years ago, would barely suggest that life had formed here.
      Why would anyone come out on such a monumentally doubtful proposition? How long do you suppose these beings live? And what knowledge do you have about exobiological metabolism that justifies such a claim?

    • @triple1
      @triple1 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@starfishsystems You are thinking in terms of how we understand light speed works right now. It's not that plausible that they'd have to travel millions of years to reach us. It's more likely that they'd have found a way to travel faster than the speed of light, by using the properties of spacetime. And maybe they have a way to probe a galaxy without being constrained to speed of light, and that way they could check "present" time. Everything I said just now of course can be true only "if they exist".

  • @Robert-yc9ql
    @Robert-yc9ql วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Very enjoyable.
    Thank you.

  • @slangster233
    @slangster233 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Out of the darkness....
    24 divided by 1.25 = 19.2, height, upper chamber.
    19.2 divided by 1.25 = 15.36 side wall height, middle chamber.
    15.36 x 19.2 = 294.912, width squared, both chambers, (17.17300206)
    The "as built" dimensions of the chambers within the great pyramid are square roots, to eight decimals of accuracy. Encouraged at every turn to "think outside the box", perhaps it's time for a closer look at what got us into boxes in the first place.

    • @trentp8035
      @trentp8035 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That's nice buddy we will put that on the fridge good job.

    • @generichuman_
      @generichuman_ วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ya, that's not how error margins work... unless your starting figures are also to 8 decimal places of accuracy. You're telling me that in old crumbing rock, that they measured a chamber to be 24.00000000 m? That's an accuracy of 10 nanometers... A red blood cell is 6000 nanometers for reference. Get real...

  • @libraryofpangea7018
    @libraryofpangea7018 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I think any organism that became highly developed would ultimately want to microscale, as being macroscopic ultimately puts you at greater risk of extinction. Using quantum computing or something approximate to keep their intelligence or "identity" while ultimately inhabiting the world at the scale of microbes. Microbes live in an infinitely larger state of existence to macroscopic organisms such as us, the surface area of a tree is the size of an entire continent to fungal mycelium.
    This is my hypothesis to answer the Fermi Paradox, it would explain why we don't see macro scale activity out in the wider universe and fits in line with our limitations on testing.

    • @TheDaddyBonglegs
      @TheDaddyBonglegs 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Fascinating idea

  • @convinceme6676
    @convinceme6676 วันที่ผ่านมา

    listening to these two gentlemen makes me feel like I have a 20,000 year cognitive mismatch. But somehow I do love listening to them.

    • @christelwilk6166
      @christelwilk6166 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      To love listings to conversations is more important than understanding them, because you learn because of your interest in it.

  • @vicp7124
    @vicp7124 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    8:20 Brian Greene proves how Italian he really is.
    Note the movement of the hands.

  • @Jeremy-Ai
    @Jeremy-Ai 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    3:08
    Ah yes the dogs
    I have not forgotten about the dogs.
    They are not mine to control they just hang around, In a wider space?
    It is not wise to approach without the dogs finding you first.
    They will heal or bite depending on the demeanour for which they have known to be raised.
    It is naive to speculate about life that we did not create, its best to focus on the life we have been given.
    If so or not so, approach and the dogs will sort you out before you arrive.

  • @karlschmied6218
    @karlschmied6218 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One could respond to arguments like those made by Wigner in his article "The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Mathematics in the Natural Sciences" by pointing out that the way our brain understands the world is based on the same basic rules that it can represent. After all, the brain itself follows the "laws of nature." We know that complex and organized systems can arise from very simple rules, which can be described mathematically (a concept known as emergence). So, this isn't unreasonable at all.

  • @TRUECRIMEADDICTTT
    @TRUECRIMEADDICTTT 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Brilliant!

  • @gerardgauthier4876
    @gerardgauthier4876 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The physicist acts like theorical physics is never wrong with their mathematical journeys.

  • @thomaspeterson8357
    @thomaspeterson8357 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    It looks like even our solar system structure might be one in a million/billion. I might be wrong but out of the thousands of other solar systems they've looked at, haven't they all been gas giants orbiting close to the star? I think they found one possible rocky planet close to a goldy locks zone, and it was 4 or more times the Earth's gravity. Like it was bordering on being a small gas giant itself

  • @alex79suited
    @alex79suited 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hidden in plain sight. Peace ✌️ 😎.

  • @SteveMG500
    @SteveMG500 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ludwig Wittgenstein famously argued that if a lion could talk that we wouldn't be able to understand it. That is to say that although we had a shared language the experiences of that lion (and of us) would be impossible for us and the lion to understand. His speech fails to convey meanings to us, at least meaning we understand. Would math, then, be one of those cases where although we have a shared math with aliens their understanding or usage of it is so different that we and they could not understand each other?

  • @Paffi135
    @Paffi135 วันที่ผ่านมา

    AI stopped playing Tetris, put it on pause I think, once it figured out there's no winning. There's no winning in life; suffering (in some form) is guaranteed. To keep this going indefinitely is stupidity more than anything.

  • @ginofactap
    @ginofactap 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this is 2160p done wrong 😵

    • @thesphinxfactor
      @thesphinxfactor วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah. Two uber pixelated talking blobs would have worked just as well.

  • @Paffi135
    @Paffi135 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Brian's excess use of the language of hand gesturing 😃

  • @drumsticksusa
    @drumsticksusa วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    They’re not here, they’re not coming. These gentlemen are smart enough to understand interstellar distances. It’s disappointing to see them “debate” this topic. There must be a good payday in it, but it’s as irresponsible to lend credence to an idea as distracting as the idea that we’re going to “colonize” Mars.

  • @Henri-y8t
    @Henri-y8t วันที่ผ่านมา

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  • @BusterDarcy
    @BusterDarcy วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don’t know what anyone is surprised that math describes reality. That’s been its function since its earliest usage. If I have two apples and I pick two more, I will have four apples. That is just describing reality so there’s no reason to believe that math’s ability to do so would hit some sort of cosmic wall the deeper it delves into the makings of the universe.

    • @Henri-y8t
      @Henri-y8t วันที่ผ่านมา

      Look why talking about appels and bring reality , and cosmic what ever that is false informations Philippe 😎

  • @jasonantigua6825
    @jasonantigua6825 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Could be that everything is hiding

  • @Titurel
    @Titurel วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dark Forest

  • @knowme4iam326
    @knowme4iam326 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "I am constantly amazed at the total destruction of ecosystems". Charles Darwin. Ask yourself where are the dinosaurs? Hint: gone. Were next.

  • @tTtt-ho3tq
    @tTtt-ho3tq วันที่ผ่านมา

    Pattern recognition is it all there is, nothing more, nothing less.
    How do we understand it? What is it to understand? In big words, epistemology and oncology or something, i guess. I'm simply and stupid so let me put it in simple and stupid.
    It's a question of Truth or the truth of reality. When we're talking about Truth or the ultimate truth of reality, ultimate it's up to our consciousness to understand it or not. Consciousness, it's a brain in a vat. My consciousness is mine and mine only. So is yours, his, hers. It's a solitiscism. But then we won't go nowhere, logically so let's jump to next assuming i exist, you exist, he, she, and so do others, although keep in mind it is ultimately what it is logically, so keep in mind.
    Mature seems orderly when we look around us. Meaning things happen in nature repeatedly in orderly fashion. We wonder why do they happen that way. We try to reason. We try to figure out what is it all about. What does that mean? So on and so forth. But, if we could find the order they repeat, then we could predict the future outcomes. Practical reality. What do we do? We correlate patterns, connecting the dots hoping we'd get it right so that we could predict the future outcomes of things happen in nature for our benefit.
    So we study the patterns in nature, hypothesis, theories, try to connect the dots and test it. Try to see the order of the patterns and try to figure out the underlying causality, what causes what to make it a pattern.
    But correlation is not causality.
    Correation is correct until it ain't so. But if it's correct close enough it's close enough for the practical reality. That's science. That's logic.
    Pattern recognition is it al there is, nothing more, nothing less.
    Something like that.

  • @جمهوریبییخدایاندوست
    @جمهوریبییخدایاندوست วันที่ผ่านมา

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    • @hmdshokri
      @hmdshokri วันที่ผ่านมา

      Are you OK man?!

  • @N.Y.C.FreddyBling-z9u
    @N.Y.C.FreddyBling-z9u วันที่ผ่านมา

    Pangburn :: CHECK MARK :: ''Intelligence'' remains ''intelligible'' - when a ''ratio'' assessment is arrived at. FACT. Do THE MATH! [ Sum it up! ] .,. (* Joking around here but truth is applicable!* No?*) .,

  • @atmoo3447
    @atmoo3447 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Knowledge is to delude you into thinking you know something worthwhile

    • @ransakreject5221
      @ransakreject5221 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Do you know that?

    • @simplylethul
      @simplylethul วันที่ผ่านมา

      Word salad.

    • @generichuman_
      @generichuman_ วันที่ผ่านมา

      Reading quote a day calendars is to delude idiots into thinking they can make up their own quotes, and that they'll be coherent and meaningful...

    • @ransakreject5221
      @ransakreject5221 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@generichuman_ yeah it’s a waste of time. And as a great man once said
      You don’t waste time, time wastes you

  • @Prometheus4096
    @Prometheus4096 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Brian Greene doesn't understand the Fermi Paradox.

  • @d-darkness-within
    @d-darkness-within วันที่ผ่านมา

    First!

  • @fouraces9137
    @fouraces9137 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Change the name of your channel from what I saw it should be Christmas Goose. How many words can I use to make myself look smart LMAO you could see that going through your mind.

  • @kevincasson9848
    @kevincasson9848 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can't understand why people like Sam Harris. He could send a * glass eye" to sleep 😂. His voice grates on you aswell!

    • @generichuman_
      @generichuman_ วันที่ผ่านมา

      He's not for everyone. Just people who read...

    • @paulfromt.o.7384
      @paulfromt.o.7384 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      "I DONT LIKE SAM HARRIS AND WOULD LIKE EVERYONE TO KNOW I DONT LIKE SAM HARRIS!"
      Lol then move on and watch something else fella.