Martin Philipp LOL exactly. I’ve been spoiling certain aspects to a friend who hasn’t seen it because i know they won’t understand it, even after seeing the movie.
Ah totally dont worry after all i didn't get any spoilers even after watching it the first time including the fact that protagonist name was the protagonist.
Watch Primer. Some people manage to follow Tenet but nobody gets primer without a diagram and a video like this. It's really good, watch it and comment here again :-)
Guys, let's crowdfund the full movie 3D breakdown. It's worth more than the movie ticket price because it is extending how we experience the original work of art. Who is in for it?
TENET is the kind of movie where you end up entertained and aware that you did not get to understand the full picture at first... then rewatch it to an extent where you're like "I get it now.", but, sooner or later, you go back and realize how you still don't understand much of it at all. TENET, to me, feels like a paradoxical movie. I don't get it, but I get it in a way that I don't.
@@baurerzhan6968 I like to think that line was directed to the Protagonist, not the audience. Telling the audience to try to not understand something would defeat the purpose of telling a story in the first place. Yet telling the Protagonist to try to not understand inversion would help him adapt faster to confusing situations he may end up dealing with in the future. Ignorance is the company’s ammunition, so the Protagonist is suggested to act out of blind faith. Yet it is important as an audience member to understand what is happening to understand the story. No understanding leads to no point in hearing the story, to begin with. TL;DR: That line was directed to the Protagonist, not the audience.
Its crazy how the configuration of the vault walls is the only thing that keeps them from seeing their future selves. And I thought it was just a random pentagon...
@@computerfreak4989 you can also see the forwards TP in the background when suitTP is struggling with invertedTP the very first time you see the fight. it is only a couple of frames, but forwardsTP runs past the fight and goes outside to yell GO GO!
@@JinKee Ah, sure. I was just thinking a little too complicated because I was looking for the future TP and / or future Neil somewhere hidden in the background (e.g. like Neil is watching in the corridor from behind a corner in the inverted 747 scene) while present TP and inverted TP are fighting in the corridor. But - for sure - it's very obvious that in the vault the future forwards TP is running in the room behind the present TP.
Fundamentally, tenet is really simple. Instead of going back in time at a faster pace than time itself like in every other time travel film (for example, going back 30 years in the space of a few seconds), you go back at the same pace as time itself. In practice, that is very, very hard to comprehend
I think the reason why it's so difficult to understand compared to normal time travel is that normal time travel can be thought of teleporting to another place (basically, there's some more rules, but if you go back far enough its basically just teleporting to another version of the same place just younger, think of bttf and bttf 3 terminator those movies). In TeneT, its confusing because your not only going through time in reverse instead of just appearing, you interact with the world as you go.
It's a brilliant concept and eventhough its not Nolan's finest work, I can't think of anyone else who could've even come close to pulling off what Nolan managed to convey here.
What's so messed up about it is that you cannot experience the reverse of the timeline without seeing yourself in it. But because you saw yourself in the reverse timeline, this also means you would have seen your inverted self in your original forward timeline. There is no clear beginning to it. If you show up for dinner with a dish and forget the recipe, I might invert myself, go backwards through the day and come to your house to watch you cook the recipe to understand it... However, because I made that decision I would have already been there the first time it was cooked. It is really messed up.
just focus on the blue team, they want to revert themself (turn into red team), so they went backward in time, fought with the red (themself in the past), stepped in the machine, then stepped out as red team, and got in the ambulance. Other complicated things that happened just were the results when they fuked that timeline
neil and kat go in and un invert themselves and escape as TP and Neil first get to oslo to look for the drawing and whatever else sator has, neil remarks "i think someone else is here with us". neil and kat get out and go to the ambulence to escape. TP2(future TP) runs past inverted neil and kat and says "go go go" and heads back where he is discovered by past neil and heads into the turnstyle at the begining of the fight. as past TP is fighting inverted TP this fight makes its way to the plane where TP2 is sucked out and tells inverted neil to wait here whilst he clears out sators goons not realising he is what he though was sators goon. past TP and neil head back to fake being unconcious as the medics arive, future TP neil and kat escape in the ambulence whilst inverted TP neil and kat go back into the container headed for talin where the carchase and heist is. this explaination is a bit allover the place switching back and forth between time directions and explaining some events in reverse order but i hope this is in a straight forward enough way that its easier to follow the events of both sides
I'm sure this channel is run by future Christopher Nolan, so after he watch TENET he decided to make this video as a demo, then he invert himself & back in the past to make TENET after watching his own demo. Holy shit!
Unlike "Avengers: Endgame"... Time doesn't get modified or split, there's only One timeline.... Whatever has to happen has happened already.... Meaning if someone was thinking about going back in time to kill your grandpa so that you wouldn't be born....it should've have happened already or it will never happen.
@@DJLOG74 :51 in the movie you catch them fighting in the hall as RedTP_2 runs out. 1:25 in the movie when they are driving away in the ambulance you see blue Neil and Tp/kat running backwards to the container!
Nolan said in one interview that he wrote the script so that an audience member could “feel” what was going on even without understanding what was going on.
"There's someone in here with us" Oh, my word! I always took this as foreshadowing the inverted Protagonist appearing out of the turnstile. Seeing it like this actually makes clear what he was referring to. Mindblowing.
I really wish Nolan made it a little more clear so that it would've been easier to understand. Nolan should have added an audible footstep and Neil should've said something like, "I hear footsteps, someone is in here with us"
Actually, Neil was referring to his future inverted self who, if we switch to that version's perspective, was trying to enter the turnstile to revert with Kat.
This is incredible. An underappreciated feature is Neil's timing. When inverted, he gets in and waits, since the past self and TP are examining the inverting room (and before that, opening the doors). When he sees them reverse-catching their breath, he goes in. Then, after inverting, he gets out and waits again: from his point of view, not only TP still has to enter, actually TP has not even inverted to the normal flow yet. It would have been nice by Nolan to show some of this waiting.
It took me a while to wrap my head around how inverted Neil was able to enter the vault door from his point of view, since he arrives at 0:26 (before Neil1 and TP1 unlock the door at 0:33) and BOTH doors require keypads. But this video perfectly explains it - the door is already unlocked because he, traveling backwards through time, WILL unlock it from the inside a few seconds later(!!!) which, from his perspective, will be closing the door behind him) From Neil's point of view, he is entering the blue side (which unlocks to his touch since to someone who's inverted, a door that automatically locks behind you when closed will instead automatically OPEN for you just before you start pushing it open). From a forward-moving camera's POV (0:12-0:26), both Inverted Neil and Neil 2 are "spawning" inside of the turnstile inside of the vault and opening the doors from the inside as they leave (no need to use keypads) If you were to have someone take a video of you locking yourself out of your house (i.e., locking the front door, leaving your keys INSIDE, then leaving through the front door and closing it behind you), when played backwards it will absolutely look like you're 'magically' entering a locked door :D
Yea, I'd like to understand even the minutest details like the building that got blown up, stood back up, its roof blown up and then came crashing down again with the roof intact :D
Nobody gives the creator of these videos enough credit. I’ve watched tenet nearly 30 times and I credit my depth of understanding to these breakdowns. It’s difficult to even visualize these concepts
It's so trippy the way both the inverted and forward versions go into the turnstile and then just seem to disappear. Even though I understand what's happening, it's still always trips me out.
Yeah it really gets me. Its very hard to wrap your head around, although for me their seeming 'spawning' into existence from the turnstile is even more wild. It makes more sense to me to visualise it like this. Think about the forward-flowing timeline represented as a line, and then visualise a sideways U parallel to it, with each tail of the U continuing to follow the direction of the timeline. That represents how an inverted character who uses the turnstile effectively does a U turn on the timeline. One tail of the U being their forward self and the other tail their inverted self. Now when you look at your timeline going merrily along, the U suddenly appears and now it helps to visualise how 2 of the same person spawn into existence from the turnstile. Of course you can also visualise how forward-moving characters vanish in the turnstile the same way, just turn the U 180 degrees on your timeline so the tails are facing into the past. Now the tails of your sideways U start off alongside your forward timeline, and then when you reach the bend of the U, the U is suddenly gone. Each tail of the U again is the forward moving and inverted moving character. If this all sounds very complicated, just try drawing it in Paint and for anyone struggling with it you'll see how it can help to make sense of this wild visual phenomonon.
This is why I love his work, if a movie doesn't have you this engaged I don't want to watch it. All the threads, video breakdowns, and conversations are what make each of his films worth the watch.
My friend: how many movies did you watch in 2020 ? Me: 10 movies My friend: what are they ? Me: Tenet Tenet Tenet Tenet .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... & Tenet
Listen man; these breakdowns are effing amazing, but the thing that gets me is HOW DAMN ACCURATE and how much attention to detail there is. Little things like TP_2 flipping TP and the gun flinging off at 0:53 is just spot on. It's a lot of extra effort on your behalf, but it really helps keep us grounded in where and what is happening from the movie. I absolutely love it.
Imagine you're playing a video game with a friend. You play the game from the start to the end (moving forward through time). Your friend, though, starts from the end of the game and plays backward to the beginning (inverted through time). Because your friend has already "seen" what happens, they can help you by giving hints about what's coming next. Together, you can tackle challenges better, since you're both covering different parts of the game-one from the past, one from the future. So in the movie, one team is doing things in normal time, and the other team is working backwards.
the thing that breaks my skull is the fact that the reason why they magically appear at the forward moving time is because they dissappear in backards at the exact same time . meaning to say ts almost like a double world. this also then creates a loophole to manufecture infinite numbers of you.
I don’t see where you’re infinite numbers come from. The best way I found to visualise inversion was, imagine you’re going forward in time and want to invert. Let’s say you enter the turnstile room at 1:55pm and then invert at 2pm exactly. Now you’re inverted, going backwards in time. Your body never went beyond 2pm. You then leave the turnstile room, inverted, at 1:55pm. From a bystanders perspective, you “disappear” at 2pm, when really they’re just watching the two halves of your 10 minute journey in 5 minutes. Two half’s enter at 1:55pm, enter the turnstile at 2pm, and disappear. Now imagine a bystander who is inverted at 2:05pm. 5 minutes later at 2:00pm, they would see two people “magically” appear from the turnstile and leave the room at 1:55pm. This is just the inverse of the first bystander and only occurs when the bystander is going in the opposite direction from the subject using the turnstile. What makes this interaction really special though is that the first time we are introduced to it, not only are we the bystander but we are also seeing it from an inverted perspective. Although we are going forwards in time, the subject using the turnstile is going backwards, giving us the inverted bystander perspective. It seems like nonsense until the Freeport scene where we follow Sator through the turnstile and see the interaction from his perspective. This is when everything falls into place for the audience.
Lets say there are 2 turnstyles, A and B. Lets say Mike go into turnstyle A at 9pm, time go backward and he move to turnstyle B at 8pm and revert himself. If u at turnstyle B at 8pm, u will observe Mike magically appear because Mike does not exist at turnstyle B before 8pm. (This is what happen when suddenly inverted TP2 and TP3 magically appear, because TP2 and TP3 do not exist at airport before 8pm for example) If u at turnstyle A at 9pm, u will observe Mike disappear, because Mike do not exist at turnstyle A after 9pm (unless the reverted Mike at 8pm comeback to turnstyle A at 9pm, and he too can watch himself disappear)
@@cinematics.official see that's what amazes and pisses me off about this film. Cause it's basically a film where they tricked us into thinking that there are huge stakes at play when in reality there isn't and is at the same time.
Waitttt I didn’t even notice! I was wondering how Neil knew someone was in there if the protagonist hadn’t come out the turnstile yet. I didn’t even realize the inverted neil was in there. This movie just ages like wine!
You mean when he goes to check if TP is still in the Turnstile room? lol. Yeah.,. the way the movie is edited it takes Neil too long to realistically run back to find them. So I had to think of a way to delay him a little bit. I figured he can waste time checking the room, not see him , then continue down the hallway looking for them. Thanks!!
when I saw that I actually thought of going back to that part of the movie and see if neil actually does something while the 2 TP's fight very well made and detailed visualization along with his visualizations for the other scenes
Finally understand why two enter the machine would disappear(only exist in the past), or appear(only exist in the future), because of how inversion works
@@eshwar6969 yeah I think the red room/blue room interrogation scene especially was the most complicated part, I still don't understand it entirely but I think I need to watch the film a few more times
i saw the movie and now im reading the screenplay, still hard to grasp, time inversion is such a great concept, rarely does a movie give you so much to think about
Simply amazed on the accuracy exhibited by Red and Blue Niel_2 to understand when to wait, when to move, while all that mess is going on in there, and still sneak in/out without being noticed. Great work on this explanation man !!
This movie is just brilliant. I need to watch it again. And thanks for this video. It made it easier to understand but also more complicated to understand how it happened. Jesus this movie is a trip
I remember seeing a comment or a diagram suggesting Neil_2 actually helped past Neil and TP open the door leading to the turnstiles when TP's lockpick breaks
Has anyone else watched this movie like 20 times trying to figure this stuff out? Tenet is invading my dreams. I've never been this frustrated AND fascinated by a movie. Anyway, two things to mention: Neil doesn't exactly enter the turnstyle room at the exact same time as himself going the other way, but it's close. Neil was probably like "'Sup" to his other self as they passed in time. And two, if you rewatch the scene where Inverted Neil/TP leave the cargo container, I think you can see normal TP sitting in the van as they pass him.
Best revealing. Here we can see that Neil_2 intercept TP and Neil at 0:24. Otherwise if TP and Neil have opened the door earlier then they would see Neil_2 with Kat
if he does the final battle scene, I hope when it gets to the end of the inverted perspective it fast forwards backwards through time until the time the destroyed building pops back as a normal building to clear up confusion about when the building was appeared as destroyed.
@@cypher1133 Shutter island is: Spoiler: The true order: Is a psycholgical movie about a person who have schizophrenia..... (And I realize this after learning neuropsychiatry in preclinic🤣🤣. Previously, i still doubt about the ending, but then i realize that the bold ending is he is the patient). The way martin scorsese tell the audience is actually to prove that this protagonist is sick. The signs of movie that tell us of many dreams, delusion, no chronogical order, etc is the clear sign that this person is sick😅. It's beautiful actually. This movie wanted you to feel *how exactly a schizophrenia like* . You experience as Andrew Laeddis that in this movie he thought himself as Teddy. The audience shock at the ending is exactly how a schizophrenic person feel after they realize they are wrong the whole time.... One of my favorite movie👍
Awesome work , this 3D is the best way to understand all the sequences.. I was waiting for this now more than 2 weeks , thanks again.. hope to see the final battle scene in similar fashion which could help me understand the nitty gritty details of the climax.. Kudos again 👍
It's not difficult. Neil inverts in the future, stays so until he saves the protagonist at the Opera, and reverts again. Then, he follows the Protagonist forwards until the day of Tallinn (let's say the 24th). On that day, he inverts again, returns to to the day of Oslo (imagine the 17th) and reverts again. However, in order to get back to Stalsk, who also happened on the 14th, he has to invert a final time. On the day of Stalsk, he inverts at - say - 12, after the battle is over, to fight it backwards. However, at 11:45, he sees Volkov planting the trap. Thus, he un-inverts and moves forwards to save P and Ives. Finally, at 12:02 (a few minutes after the battle has ended) inverts again to go open the gate, and thus dies at 11:58. All of his iterations can be placed in chronological order. There is only one we haven't see: the "original" him who is growing up on his own, will be recruited by TP in the future, and will invert to go save him at the Opera, leading us back to the start .
I thought Inception was difficult until I saw this movie. After lots of research I'm happy to say that understand the movie a lot better now and yet each time I watch one of these videos, I realize that there are still gaps that need filling. I love it! 😁
These models were a big help in understanding the pincer movements in the film. I always somewhat understood this scene at the first two viewings, but the i watched this model and was lost lol! But then watching other videos that detail the plot, the science behind entropy etc, and multiple rewatches of reviews etc, it started to clear up. I was totally lost for years for the Stalsk 12 battle, but recently that became clear as day thanks to the model, and it's fucking awesome! The only pincer movement scene where there's a slight murkiness is with the Sab, but very slight, because i get distracted with the minor details of the chase both forward and inverted, but I'll aoon be on the same page as the script writers. These movie is like the gift that keeps giving. The more you understand it, the more you're rewarded on the next rewatch. I just watched this 3D model and understood literally everything that was displayed. This is one of the rare instances where the inverted point of view makes sense, because from there, we get to see the main characters use knowledge of what came before to infiltrate and extract. The paradox however is that some of what came before happened because of interference from their inverted selves... 🤣🤯
you can for like a couple of frames when we follow the protagonist #1 fighting inverted protagonist #2, neil #1 and forward protagonist #2 are in the background
There was a split second shot in the movie, when it returns to the Oslo Freeport, when Protagonist 2 in the tactical suit goes to run outside after the original Neil leaves him to escape, we actually see the original Protagonist fighting his inverted self behind Protagonist 2.
I love the detail of Neil Red 1 throwing his arms up in panic when the Protagonist can't open the door fast enough at 0:28 and again at 2:36. Nice touch 😄
![Tenet || Inversion Visualized || Inverted Objects and World Lines #4 [SPOILERS]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/FVdBLjNR5TU/mqdefault.jpg)
![Tenet || Inversion Visualized || Inverted Objects and World Lines #4 [SPOILERS]](/img/tr.png)
Like someone before me said: Tenet is the only movie in history, which is not possible to spoil to someone who hasn‘t seen ist yet.
Martin Philipp LOL exactly. I’ve been spoiling certain aspects to a friend who hasn’t seen it because i know they won’t understand it, even after seeing the movie.
Was that person an inverted you?
Ah totally dont worry after all i didn't get any spoilers even after watching it the first time including the fact that protagonist name was the protagonist.
They understand it, but not yet.
Truth
The only movie that I have to watch 3D models to understand
Watch Primer. Some people manage to follow Tenet but nobody gets primer without a diagram and a video like this. It's really good, watch it and comment here again :-)
@@DaneelFoyer GOING TO RENT IT BASED ON YOUR COMMENT.
I didn't watch the movie and have no clue what is going on. Even though I have seen most of these clips.
@@Jimmy_Jones rent it & you’ll see
It means the movie is bad
People: We dont understand Tenet.
Nolan: Wait for my youtube secret chanel.
for real though, the modeling is quite detailed. maybe he's secretly is.
@@perrypereyra6671 Or, I just use 3D software for a living and did alot of nerdy research on the layout, etc,.. :)
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill Both is good.
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill dang dude, sorry for disparaging you. I've said that without even checking out your channel, now I see. hats off.
@@perrypereyra6671 no worries. I'm just a normal youtuber, doing silly things to be creative and do stuff that isn't "Work". :) enjoy!
Hey man if you don't mind, can u do this for the entire movie? 😂
LOL
IMAGINE
😂😂😂😂
Welby CoffeeSpill: it's not possible.
The Audience: No, it's necessary!
Guys, let's crowdfund the full movie 3D breakdown. It's worth more than the movie ticket price because it is extending how we experience the original work of art. Who is in for it?
Vfx artist: it's not possible.
Nolan: No, it's necessary.
I've seen this unoriginal comment on EVERY damn Tenet video... Stop. Just stop.
@@tlf361 Well, this hasn't started from the comments, it's all cuz of Interstellar
@@GoofyRiderFilms I know... doesn't make it any funnier when there's 10 of the same comments on every video
@@tlf361 yeah I get you
@@tlf361 Tim: it’s not possible don’t make the joke
People: no, it’s necessary
TENET is the kind of movie where you end up entertained and aware that you did not get to understand the full picture at first... then rewatch it to an extent where you're like "I get it now.", but, sooner or later, you go back and realize how you still don't understand much of it at all. TENET, to me, feels like a paradoxical movie. I don't get it, but I get it in a way that I don't.
don't try to understand, feel it
))
@@baurerzhan6968 I like to think that line was directed to the Protagonist, not the audience. Telling the audience to try to not understand something would defeat the purpose of telling a story in the first place. Yet telling the Protagonist to try to not understand inversion would help him adapt faster to confusing situations he may end up dealing with in the future. Ignorance is the company’s ammunition, so the Protagonist is suggested to act out of blind faith. Yet it is important as an audience member to understand what is happening to understand the story. No understanding leads to no point in hearing the story, to begin with.
TL;DR: That line was directed to the Protagonist, not the audience.
@@TheWelchProductions I know) it's just a joke)
Schrödinger’s movie
well said mate, feeling exactly the same with this film.
Its crazy how the configuration of the vault walls is the only thing that keeps them from seeing their future selves. And I thought it was just a random pentagon...
oh yeah i didn't think about this😅...it is so confusing i just enjoyed watching this 😅
And you can actually see their future selves in the background in the first time we see this scene!
@@JinKee Where exactly? I haven't seen something at the first 747 scene ecxept for the ambulance with future TP, Neil and Kat driving away.
@@computerfreak4989 you can also see the forwards TP in the background when suitTP is struggling with invertedTP the very first time you see the fight. it is only a couple of frames, but forwardsTP runs past the fight and goes outside to yell GO GO!
@@JinKee Ah, sure. I was just thinking a little too complicated because I was looking for the future TP and / or future Neil somewhere hidden in the background (e.g. like Neil is watching in the corridor from behind a corner in the inverted 747 scene) while present TP and inverted TP are fighting in the corridor. But - for sure - it's very obvious that in the vault the future forwards TP is running in the room behind the present TP.
Fundamentally, tenet is really simple. Instead of going back in time at a faster pace than time itself like in every other time travel film (for example, going back 30 years in the space of a few seconds), you go back at the same pace as time itself. In practice, that is very, very hard to comprehend
Yes,..especially when they start interacting with each other!
I think of it as rewinding a movie at 1x.
The ones who are rewinded are as conscience as the people going forward 1x.
I think the reason why it's so difficult to understand compared to normal time travel is that normal time travel can be thought of teleporting to another place (basically, there's some more rules, but if you go back far enough its basically just teleporting to another version of the same place just younger, think of bttf and bttf 3 terminator those movies). In TeneT, its confusing because your not only going through time in reverse instead of just appearing, you interact with the world as you go.
It's a brilliant concept and eventhough its not Nolan's finest work, I can't think of anyone else who could've even come close to pulling off what Nolan managed to convey here.
What's so messed up about it is that you cannot experience the reverse of the timeline without seeing yourself in it. But because you saw yourself in the reverse timeline, this also means you would have seen your inverted self in your original forward timeline. There is no clear beginning to it.
If you show up for dinner with a dish and forget the recipe, I might invert myself, go backwards through the day and come to your house to watch you cook the recipe to understand it... However, because I made that decision I would have already been there the first time it was cooked. It is really messed up.
I still have no fucking idea what's going on
pepelaugh it's simple really..
just focus on the blue team, they want to revert themself (turn into red team), so they went backward in time, fought with the red (themself in the past), stepped in the machine, then stepped out as red team, and got in the ambulance. Other complicated things that happened just were the results when they fuked that timeline
neil and kat go in and un invert themselves and escape as TP and Neil first get to oslo to look for the drawing and whatever else sator has, neil remarks "i think someone else is here with us". neil and kat get out and go to the ambulence to escape. TP2(future TP) runs past inverted neil and kat and says "go go go" and heads back where he is discovered by past neil and heads into the turnstyle at the begining of the fight. as past TP is fighting inverted TP this fight makes its way to the plane where TP2 is sucked out and tells inverted neil to wait here whilst he clears out sators goons not realising he is what he though was sators goon. past TP and neil head back to fake being unconcious as the medics arive, future TP neil and kat escape in the ambulence whilst inverted TP neil and kat go back into the container headed for talin where the carchase and heist is.
this explaination is a bit allover the place switching back and forth between time directions and explaining some events in reverse order but i hope this is in a straight forward enough way that its easier to follow the events of both sides
@@Queue3612 spot on, well done
Me too
Inception: "you fuckers ready for me to spin your brains?!?!"
Tenet: "Here, hold my beer."
catch my beer thats going backwards in time
It would be better saying "reeb ym dloh ,ereH"
Yeah , Inception is a lot more easier to understand compared to TENET.
@@Masashiwithlasers interstellar is simpler
more like
ɹǝǝq ʎɯ ploɥ'ǝɹǝɥ
Theory of blackhole is much more easier than this.
Absolutely 💯
What is theory of blackhole??
Nonsense. This 3D graphic makes things so much easier to understand. It's all on you if you still don't get it.
Lol😂😂
yeah but without equations.
I'm sure this channel is run by future Christopher Nolan, so after he watch TENET he decided to make this video as a demo, then he invert himself & back in the past to make TENET after watching his own demo.
Holy shit!
...CITSATNAF
Soyeon what are you doing on a Tenet Explained video go back to writing songs for (G)I-DLE smh
@@MissMartianDCAU I just finished writing a new EP, let me breath!
OH WOW.
Hi, I wrote this comment 3 years ago
You're actually the goat. This is like the 3rd one you've done and they've all been super effective at explaining what's going on
Great
Fucking legend
Can you .... can you explain it to me?
@@joefrank1982 it’s a temporal pincer
@@joefrank1982 ok but fr I can go through it if you need me to lol I’m becoming a fanatic for this movie
Unlike "Avengers: Endgame"... Time doesn't get modified or split, there's only One timeline.... Whatever has to happen has happened already.... Meaning if someone was thinking about going back in time to kill your grandpa so that you wouldn't be born....it should've have happened already or it will never happen.
Its beautiful
But it's still possible you have to go back in time and save your grandpa anyway. You will win but what if you don't?
@@carteor You will. Whatever mistakes you made would've happened already, and it will culminate into you saving your grandfather.
@@ZearthGJL exactly!! Whatever changes have happened have already happened or they'd never happen.....
And the only way for the heroes to win was to make the villain think that he won
Yup. It's crazy when you notice in the movie you can see the future version of them in the background
yeah,..I loved that stuff. Really helps place where they are and at what time too.
You see it in the movie ?😮
@@DJLOG74
:51 in the movie you catch them fighting in the hall as RedTP_2 runs out.
1:25 in the movie when they are driving away in the ambulance you see blue Neil and Tp/kat running backwards to the container!
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill thanks I will look for that!
You can see Neil putting kat into ambulance when they are running inverted to entrance too
Interstellar: are you kids ready for brain melting plot twist
Tenet: reeb ym dloh, ereh
tnemmoC detarrednU
Yzarc era syug uoy
@@tafadzwagonera
Yaw taht skrow tnod ti kniht i
Elitsnrut eht retne em tel , emit emos ni tnemmoc annog m i
@@tafadzwagonera i dont think it works that way
I m gonna comment in some time , let me enter the turnstile
@@helloitsokyrago ereht did uoy tahw ees I. ahahA
Nolan said in one interview that he wrote the script so that an audience member could “feel” what was going on even without understanding what was going on.
The use of the *PROPER MUSIC TRACKS* and the *DIALOGUE CHUNKS* are *AMAZING* you are literally my favorite fellow TENET fan on the internet
"There's someone in here with us"
Oh, my word! I always took this as foreshadowing the inverted Protagonist appearing out of the turnstile. Seeing it like this actually makes clear what he was referring to. Mindblowing.
I really wish Nolan made it a little more clear so that it would've been easier to understand. Nolan should have added an audible footstep and Neil should've said something like, "I hear footsteps, someone is in here with us"
Neil was referring to future Neil lol
Actually, Neil was referring to his future inverted self who, if we switch to that version's perspective, was trying to enter the turnstile to revert with Kat.
This is incredible. An underappreciated feature is Neil's timing. When inverted, he gets in and waits, since the past self and TP are examining the inverting room (and before that, opening the doors). When he sees them reverse-catching their breath, he goes in. Then, after inverting, he gets out and waits again: from his point of view, not only TP still has to enter, actually TP has not even inverted to the normal flow yet. It would have been nice by Nolan to show some of this waiting.
It took me a while to wrap my head around how inverted Neil was able to enter the vault door from his point of view, since he arrives at 0:26 (before Neil1 and TP1 unlock the door at 0:33) and BOTH doors require keypads. But this video perfectly explains it - the door is already unlocked because he, traveling backwards through time, WILL unlock it from the inside a few seconds later(!!!) which, from his perspective, will be closing the door behind him) From Neil's point of view, he is entering the blue side (which unlocks to his touch since to someone who's inverted, a door that automatically locks behind you when closed will instead automatically OPEN for you just before you start pushing it open). From a forward-moving camera's POV (0:12-0:26), both Inverted Neil and Neil 2 are "spawning" inside of the turnstile inside of the vault and opening the doors from the inside as they leave (no need to use keypads)
If you were to have someone take a video of you locking yourself out of your house (i.e., locking the front door, leaving your keys INSIDE, then leaving through the front door and closing it behind you), when played backwards it will absolutely look like you're 'magically' entering a locked door :D
Awesome job with this! I'm ready to see the battle at Stalsk-12!
@Param Shah that was the bomb scene
Yea, I'd like to understand even the minutest details like the building that got blown up, stood back up, its roof blown up and then came crashing down again with the roof intact :D
@@jb5416 dont try to understand it. Feel it..
@Param Shah indeed 👍
Nobody gives the creator of these videos enough credit. I’ve watched tenet nearly 30 times and I credit my depth of understanding to these breakdowns.
It’s difficult to even visualize these concepts
It's so trippy the way both the inverted and forward versions go into the turnstile and then just seem to disappear. Even though I understand what's happening, it's still always trips me out.
Yeah it really gets me. Its very hard to wrap your head around, although for me their seeming 'spawning' into existence from the turnstile is even more wild. It makes more sense to me to visualise it like this. Think about the forward-flowing timeline represented as a line, and then visualise a sideways U parallel to it, with each tail of the U continuing to follow the direction of the timeline. That represents how an inverted character who uses the turnstile effectively does a U turn on the timeline. One tail of the U being their forward self and the other tail their inverted self. Now when you look at your timeline going merrily along, the U suddenly appears and now it helps to visualise how 2 of the same person spawn into existence from the turnstile.
Of course you can also visualise how forward-moving characters vanish in the turnstile the same way, just turn the U 180 degrees on your timeline so the tails are facing into the past. Now the tails of your sideways U start off alongside your forward timeline, and then when you reach the bend of the U, the U is suddenly gone. Each tail of the U again is the forward moving and inverted moving character. If this all sounds very complicated, just try drawing it in Paint and for anyone struggling with it you'll see how it can help to make sense of this wild visual phenomonon.
Teacher: “the test isn’t that hard”
The test:
This is why I love his work, if a movie doesn't have you this engaged I don't want to watch it. All the threads, video breakdowns, and conversations are what make each of his films worth the watch.
My friend: how many movies did you watch in 2020 ?
Me: 10 movies
My friend: what are they ?
Me: Tenet
Tenet
Tenet
Tenet
..........
..........
..........
..........
.......... &
Tenet
Listen man; these breakdowns are effing amazing, but the thing that gets me is HOW DAMN ACCURATE and how much attention to detail there is. Little things like TP_2 flipping TP and the gun flinging off at 0:53 is just spot on. It's a lot of extra effort on your behalf, but it really helps keep us grounded in where and what is happening from the movie. I absolutely love it.
Imagine you're playing a video game with a friend. You play the game from the start to the end (moving forward through time). Your friend, though, starts from the end of the game and plays backward to the beginning (inverted through time).
Because your friend has already "seen" what happens, they can help you by giving hints about what's coming next. Together, you can tackle challenges better, since you're both covering different parts of the game-one from the past, one from the future.
So in the movie, one team is doing things in normal time, and the other team is working backwards.
the thing that breaks my skull is the fact that the reason why they magically appear at the forward moving time is because they dissappear in backards at the exact same time . meaning to say ts almost like a double world. this also then creates a loophole to manufecture infinite numbers of you.
I don’t see where you’re infinite numbers come from.
The best way I found to visualise inversion was, imagine you’re going forward in time and want to invert. Let’s say you enter the turnstile room at 1:55pm and then invert at 2pm exactly. Now you’re inverted, going backwards in time. Your body never went beyond 2pm. You then leave the turnstile room, inverted, at 1:55pm. From a bystanders perspective, you “disappear” at 2pm, when really they’re just watching the two halves of your 10 minute journey in 5 minutes. Two half’s enter at 1:55pm, enter the turnstile at 2pm, and disappear.
Now imagine a bystander who is inverted at 2:05pm. 5 minutes later at 2:00pm, they would see two people “magically” appear from the turnstile and leave the room at 1:55pm. This is just the inverse of the first bystander and only occurs when the bystander is going in the opposite direction from the subject using the turnstile.
What makes this interaction really special though is that the first time we are introduced to it, not only are we the bystander but we are also seeing it from an inverted perspective. Although we are going forwards in time, the subject using the turnstile is going backwards, giving us the inverted bystander perspective.
It seems like nonsense until the Freeport scene where we follow Sator through the turnstile and see the interaction from his perspective. This is when everything falls into place for the audience.
Lets say there are 2 turnstyles, A and B.
Lets say Mike go into turnstyle A at 9pm, time go backward and he move to turnstyle B at 8pm and revert himself.
If u at turnstyle B at 8pm, u will observe Mike magically appear because Mike does not exist at turnstyle B before 8pm. (This is what happen when suddenly inverted TP2 and TP3 magically appear, because TP2 and TP3 do not exist at airport before 8pm for example)
If u at turnstyle A at 9pm, u will observe Mike disappear, because Mike do not exist at turnstyle A after 9pm (unless the reverted Mike at 8pm comeback to turnstyle A at 9pm, and he too can watch himself disappear)
@LIVEESH Schrodinger's cat or the many world's theory so slightly applies to that. I even think there was a subtle mention of that in the movie.
@@matthall2860 yes yes there was. thats what triggered my thought
@@cinematics.official see that's what amazes and pisses me off about this film. Cause it's basically a film where they tricked us into thinking that there are huge stakes at play when in reality there isn't and is at the same time.
There is so much happening in this scene, it's insane! Really good animation btw, explains perfectly.
I dont get a single thing
"We're going to check this is real"
-Sator
Who wants more?🤷♂️🤷♂️
Meeee! !
Meeeeeeeeeee
✋
Blows my mind that there are 3 of both neil and the protagonist.
You have a future in the past.
I'll see you at the beginning, friend.
Marvelous. Well done, my friend.
Glad to be of help for this development :D
It's alarming how many people are offended by having to think about this movie.
Waitttt I didn’t even notice! I was wondering how Neil knew someone was in there if the protagonist hadn’t come out the turnstile yet. I didn’t even realize the inverted neil was in there. This movie just ages like wine!
Totally true. It really ages like wine.
Actually you could see Neil looking at past TP and himself in the movie. It made sense then
I love the music that plays when we find out that Neil was actually chasing the protagonist!
the only channel that explain TENET without clickbait...well done mate
0:58 That Neil move!!! so detail
You mean when he goes to check if TP is still in the Turnstile room? lol.
Yeah.,. the way the movie is edited it takes Neil too long to realistically run back to find them.
So I had to think of a way to delay him a little bit. I figured he can waste time checking the room, not see him , then continue down the hallway looking for them.
Thanks!!
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill you must have watch tenet thousand time, so awesome
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill You have a future in Nolan's 3D team :-)
@@rebpalma or.. a past?
when I saw that I actually thought of going back to that part of the movie and see if neil actually does something while the 2 TP's fight
very well made and detailed visualization along with his visualizations for the other scenes
Finally understand why two enter the machine would disappear(only exist in the past), or appear(only exist in the future), because of how inversion works
What’s crazy is how close Neil was to creating a time paradox. There is 3 Neils and at 2:36 they are all almost in the same room at the same time
Omg
technically theres another one too which is max
explain whats a time paradox please?
@@airrose3000If you prevent something in your past from happening, so you in the present wouldn’t be the same you anymore!
The most complicated scene. Great job man
For me the Highway scene was very confusing but after my 5th time watching the movie I'm starting to understand everything
@@eshwar6969 yeah I think the red room/blue room interrogation scene especially was the most complicated part, I still don't understand it entirely but I think I need to watch the film a few more times
@@ottohartmann7444 lol this film's like a video game. You can watch it multiple times and notice things you didn't the first time.
just when i tought i was understanding this movie
i saw the movie and now im reading the screenplay, still hard to grasp, time inversion is such a great concept, rarely does a movie give you so much to think about
Simply amazed on the accuracy exhibited by Red and Blue Niel_2 to understand when to wait, when to move, while all that mess is going on in there, and still sneak in/out without being noticed.
Great work on this explanation man !!
The concept of the film tied in with the story makes it beautiful in it's symmetry.
Now only the Opera pincer remains to solve only 5% of mystery
i agree, please do Opera!!
I totally forgot about the part where they said someone was in there with them, holy SHIT!!!!
This is amazing! I both know exactly what's going on and at the same time know even less and I love it
This movie is just brilliant. I need to watch it again. And thanks for this video. It made it easier to understand but also more complicated to understand how it happened. Jesus this movie is a trip
Thanks! I got another video on the logistics of the Icebreaker ship journey back to Stalsk-12 next!
This is so insanely addictive
the level of attention to detail in this movie is insane.
Thanks man for taking the time to do this. Excellent job as usual!
I remember seeing a comment or a diagram suggesting Neil_2 actually helped past Neil and TP open the door leading to the turnstiles when TP's lockpick breaks
Wouldn’t that be a paradox?
No he was on the other side of the door.
Nolan should hire you for pre viz for his next flick.
You know this channel is amazing when the creator published videos with readme and references. academic level work! Good job!
Has anyone else watched this movie like 20 times trying to figure this stuff out? Tenet is invading my dreams. I've never been this frustrated AND fascinated by a movie. Anyway, two things to mention: Neil doesn't exactly enter the turnstyle room at the exact same time as himself going the other way, but it's close. Neil was probably like "'Sup" to his other self as they passed in time. And two, if you rewatch the scene where Inverted Neil/TP leave the cargo container, I think you can see normal TP sitting in the van as they pass him.
LmAoo
Best revealing. Here we can see that Neil_2 intercept TP and Neil at 0:24. Otherwise if TP and Neil have opened the door earlier then they would see Neil_2 with Kat
Before seeing this explanation i could not understand the deepness of this scene.
I've watched tenet 400+ times, i love it, and im still studying it
Now we need the 3d breakdown of stalks 12 :D , excellent work!
Welby you've done it again!!! This is incredible and I think everyone who liked the movie can appreciate this breakdown. Well done
Thank you so much for the time and effort you've put into these.
Really helps to understand the film.
Ah that's why the protagonist having hard time picking the lock, it's bcuz Neil already pick it
Man you are a Legend !! Can't wait for the final battle specially the building scene 🥴
if he does the final battle scene, I hope when it gets to the end of the inverted perspective it fast forwards backwards through time until the time the destroyed building pops back as a normal building to clear up confusion about when the building was appeared as destroyed.
0:47 that giving back the helmet 😂
Thanks!! Finally I managed to understand the "!oG" scene at 2:07..
You gave me hope to understand the movie. Now I understand 1/3rd of the film.
you're 1/3 of the way my friend
Inception and interstellar is fucking easy peasy compared to TENET
i understood both including shutter island in my first watch but this, this does put a frown(actually too many frowns) on my temple
@@cypher1133 Shutter island is:
Spoiler:
The true order:
Is a psycholgical movie about a person who have schizophrenia..... (And I realize this after learning neuropsychiatry in preclinic🤣🤣. Previously, i still doubt about the ending, but then i realize that the bold ending is he is the patient). The way martin scorsese tell the audience is actually to prove that this protagonist is sick. The signs of movie that tell us of many dreams, delusion, no chronogical order, etc is the clear sign that this person is sick😅.
It's beautiful actually. This movie wanted you to feel *how exactly a schizophrenia like* . You experience as Andrew Laeddis that in this movie he thought himself as Teddy. The audience shock at the ending is exactly how a schizophrenic person feel after they realize they are wrong the whole time.... One of my favorite movie👍
I think i understand but also dont understand conpletly, im stunned by how amazing this is
I can loop the video forever
Jesus Christ, man, that was so brilliantly visualised. You're a genius!
You deserve much respect. Awsome work.
I dont think there is no other movie that needed breakdown like this out there.
I'm not wearing a hat...but still a hatsoff to you❤️
after 2 years of watching this, its still so hard to understand, we need more movies like this
This is a masterpiece!
This guy deserves salute for doing this
I subscribed to his channel only for this!
Awesome work , this 3D is the best way to understand all the sequences.. I was waiting for this now more than 2 weeks , thanks again.. hope to see the final battle scene in similar fashion which could help me understand the nitty gritty details of the climax.. Kudos again 👍
Can you do a complete Neil timeline (seeing how there was six or seven versions of him on the 14th) IM SO CONFUSED
It's not difficult. Neil inverts in the future, stays so until he saves the protagonist at the Opera, and reverts again.
Then, he follows the Protagonist forwards until the day of Tallinn (let's say the 24th). On that day, he inverts again, returns to to the day of Oslo (imagine the 17th) and reverts again. However, in order to get back to Stalsk, who also happened on the 14th, he has to invert a final time.
On the day of Stalsk, he inverts at - say - 12, after the battle is over, to fight it backwards. However, at 11:45, he sees Volkov planting the trap. Thus, he un-inverts and moves forwards to save P and Ives. Finally, at 12:02 (a few minutes after the battle has ended) inverts again to go open the gate, and thus dies at 11:58.
All of his iterations can be placed in chronological order.
There is only one we haven't see: the "original" him who is growing up on his own, will be recruited by TP in the future, and will invert to go save him at the Opera, leading us back to the start .
@@francescorobustelli4775 but we have seen a little bit of the original him in the movie... every time you see Max!
You are doing great with the TENET breakdown.
You have done an excellent, excellent job. It's purely on me that I still don't understand anything. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I knew there's somebody out there who does tenet in illustrations. This world is full of amazing people!
You're the absolute GOAT 🐐
you are BEAST! :D well done
I wish Nolan had used this trick to show 100 feet overview of what's exactly going on..
I thought Inception was difficult until I saw this movie. After lots of research I'm happy to say that understand the movie a lot better now and yet each time I watch one of these videos, I realize that there are still gaps that need filling. I love it! 😁
Nolan did all this in his head. Mans a madlad
His brother Jonathan is his writing partner and has been for most of his movies I think.
No, I’m sure he drew out his plot in detail and mapped it together.
My Man! You Did it! I love it
WELL DONE SIR👏 Your videos help me understand the movie well ... although my head is aching now😣
These models were a big help in understanding the pincer movements in the film.
I always somewhat understood this scene at the first two viewings, but the i watched this model and was lost lol!
But then watching other videos that detail the plot, the science behind entropy etc, and multiple rewatches of reviews etc, it started to clear up.
I was totally lost for years for the Stalsk 12 battle, but recently that became clear as day thanks to the model, and it's fucking awesome!
The only pincer movement scene where there's a slight murkiness is with the Sab, but very slight, because i get distracted with the minor details of the chase both forward and inverted, but I'll aoon be on the same page as the script writers.
These movie is like the gift that keeps giving. The more you understand it, the more you're rewarded on the next rewatch.
I just watched this 3D model and understood literally everything that was displayed. This is one of the rare instances where the inverted point of view makes sense, because from there, we get to see the main characters use knowledge of what came before to infiltrate and extract.
The paradox however is that some of what came before happened because of interference from their inverted selves... 🤣🤯
0:51 there are 3x The Protagonist in a single hallway, and I think you could find them all in a single shot in the actual film.
you can for like a couple of frames when we follow the protagonist #1 fighting inverted protagonist #2, neil #1 and forward protagonist #2 are in the background
Wtf!
There was a split second shot in the movie, when it returns to the Oslo Freeport, when Protagonist 2 in the tactical suit goes to run outside after the original Neil leaves him to escape, we actually see the original Protagonist fighting his inverted self behind Protagonist 2.
Wow, you're incredible. massive props...
I love the detail of Neil Red 1 throwing his arms up in panic when the Protagonist can't open the door fast enough at 0:28 and again at 2:36. Nice touch 😄
When I animate for real I hear sound in my head, and all I could "hear " at this part was. "Ahhhhh..!" ;p
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill waooow
Brah this movie off the chain after seeing this I'm smiling mang lol
I feel like all this "explained" animations should be after credits scenes.....
That's why I love Nolan, his movies are out of this world
And the painful part is that I don’t still understand
same lol
Dude, this is amazing! Well done!