Interesting stuff Elin.. That door mirror design makes life so much simpler .. Additional brake light eh ! During my ownership of a TR-2, 3A & 4 I fitted an on-off switch to my brake lights.. Why , I hear you ask ? When you find a Police car in your rear view mirror and you're breaking the speed limit ( which was all the time with me !), I could do some heavy braking to slow me down to the legal speed limit without the 'old Bill' knowing by seeing my bright red brake light illuminate .. They never figured it out and it saved me several quid in speeding fines over the years. Great days.. Everything was analogue..
I have similar bullet mirrors on my Spit. They have concave glass to improve visibility as the flat glass ones are almost useless. As for the extra brake light. Well, it doesn't look great but makes a lot of sense. The tail lights are so low on these cars I worry about being rear-ended by some giant SUV who doesn't see me! 😊
The redesign from the TR4/5 to TR6 was outsourced to Karmann in (West !) Germany therefore differences and upgrades in doors etc. They even supplied all the new tooling to the Triumph factory.
A tip for drilling something like the mirror mount is to put a piece of rubber hose (fuel line is perfect) over the drill bit, with only about 1/4 inch of the drill bit protruding. Then when the drill goes through the hose stops it from going too far. Also put some masking tape on the door to be drilled to minimize the bit skating.
I believe when you drive a car as low as a Triumph or MG or anything else, you need something high mounted, because drivers of vehicles like SUVs cannot see your tail lights if they get close, I plan on mounting one on the roll bar. I don't know about guys who think it is a bad idea, I have had several run-ins with the SUV crowd, even with a guy who said, "nice car" then, cut me off within one block as he did not see my red TR6 in his side mirror. For front protection, I drive with headlights on and installed a louder horn.
Elin, nice to see all the loose ends being taken care of. If the owner is going to have a repaint, I wonder if the 3D printed brake light housing will take paint to make it blend into the body work?
Hi Elin, I have learned a whole lot from this 1964 TR4 series. I noticed that at the beginning of the series you noted the car had a door alignment problem, however, I don’t remember seeing any thing about it being resolved. The reason I am asking is my 65 TR4A has a drivers side door slight misalignment. Do you think if I sent you an image you might know how it could be corrected? Thanks James
Regarding the mirrors. Convex glass is an option from the manufacturer. For the mounting use nuts and bolts. The self tappers eventually pull out. I have always liked the look of those.
I'm moving away from installing a new radio in my '74 Alfa Spider. Instead I'm just going to have a power outlet for a portable unit with speakers. I find I very rarely actually listen to the radio over the sound of the Alfa at any speed.
If you connect the speakers out of phase i.e. with reversed polarity then the sound will tend to be cancelled by the speakers having out of phase waveforms.
I don't know about Canada, but in many (most? all?) US states a driver door mirror is mandatory. Passenger door mirror used to be optional... Don't know if that's still the case, but all cars cone with both door mirrors now, anyway. I suspect the reason the TR mirrors were dealer installed was to prevent damage during shipping. The TR4 parts manual offers three type of door mirror: the more common "flag" type (round mirror head on a stalk, the bullet racing type like you installed here, and a "Raydot" style. FWIW, whenever I work on a TR door window mechanism, I like to modify the stop at the bottom so the window can only be wound down to the point it's about flush with the outside rubber seal. This helps keep that seal from getting damaged when driving with the window down and my elbow resting in the top of the door (Joe Cool style 😎).
thanks Elin. I always learn something from your videos. Do you have " Competition Preparation TR-4-4A " by RW Kastner in your library ? It is an official Standard Triumph publication. Kastner ran TR4 racing in the US in the early '60s under Group 44 with Bob Tullius and others driving. He has a couple of paragraphs for the private owner as well as the full race stuff. Available for download and I think anyone working on a TR 4 would find it interesting. He did a lot of testing to come up with his recommendations. John in Manitoba.
Elin, what brand/model are the mirrors you installed? I purchased some a while back in that style but the mounting method was nowhere near that simple and I returned them. I'd like to pick those up if you still remember the brand/model.
i remember back in 1970 my TR4 had mirrors mounted on the fenders around near the wheel arch and i really don't recall anyone saying they didn't belong and where out of place and if they did i can not recall , i use to have photos of that car but i can no longer find them
Inside the doors? Yes, there was that sheet of plastic in there to protect the back of the door trim ("card" as Elin calls it), which is little more than fibre board. The plastic keeps away any water that gets past the window seal, directing it to the bottom of the door where there are drains.
Look forward to seeing if the new sender and regulator sort out the temperature gauge problem, I'm sure they will. A couple of polished carbs as well👌👌👌 That's an interesting brake light pod, amazing what can be made by 3D printing these days. With the magnets then it won't be too hard to return to the original if someone wants to. What you really need is a snow plough attachment😅😅 Great video, it's coming on step by step. Good luck from Spain!!
Interesting stuff Elin.. That door mirror design makes life so much simpler .. Additional brake light eh ! During my ownership of a TR-2, 3A & 4 I fitted an on-off switch to my brake lights.. Why , I hear you ask ? When you find a Police car in your rear view mirror and you're breaking the speed limit ( which was all the time with me !), I could do some heavy braking to slow me down to the legal speed limit without the 'old Bill' knowing by seeing my bright red brake light illuminate .. They never figured it out and it saved me several quid in speeding fines over the years. Great days.. Everything was analogue..
I have similar bullet mirrors on my Spit. They have concave glass to improve visibility as the flat glass ones are almost useless.
As for the extra brake light. Well, it doesn't look great but makes a lot of sense. The tail lights are so low on these cars I worry about being rear-ended by some giant SUV who doesn't see me! 😊
The redesign from the TR4/5 to TR6 was outsourced to Karmann in (West !) Germany therefore differences and upgrades in doors etc. They even supplied all the new tooling to the Triumph factory.
A tip for drilling something like the mirror mount is to put a piece of rubber hose (fuel line is perfect) over the drill bit, with only about 1/4 inch of the drill bit protruding. Then when the drill goes through the hose stops it from going too far.
Also put some masking tape on the door to be drilled to minimize the bit skating.
I believe when you drive a car as low as a Triumph or MG or anything else, you need something high mounted, because drivers of vehicles like SUVs cannot see your tail lights if they get close, I plan on mounting one on the roll bar. I don't know about guys who think it is a bad idea, I have had several run-ins with the SUV crowd, even with a guy who said, "nice car" then, cut me off within one block as he did not see my red TR6 in his side mirror. For front protection, I drive with headlights on and installed a louder horn.
Elin, nice to see all the loose ends being taken care of.
If the owner is going to have a repaint, I wonder if the 3D printed brake light housing will take paint to make it blend into the body work?
Hi Elin, I have learned a whole lot from this 1964 TR4 series. I noticed that at the beginning of the series you noted the car had a door alignment problem, however, I don’t remember seeing any thing about it being resolved. The reason I am asking is my 65 TR4A has a drivers side door slight misalignment. Do you think if I sent you an image you might know how it could be corrected? Thanks James
I think that the mirrors look great actually!
Regarding the mirrors. Convex glass is an option from the manufacturer. For the mounting use nuts and bolts. The self tappers eventually pull out. I have always liked the look of those.
Excellent as usual.
I'm moving away from installing a new radio in my '74 Alfa Spider. Instead I'm just going to have a power outlet for a portable unit with speakers. I find I very rarely actually listen to the radio over the sound of the Alfa at any speed.
If you connect the speakers out of phase i.e. with reversed polarity then the sound will tend to be cancelled by the speakers having out of phase waveforms.
I don't know about Canada, but in many (most? all?) US states a driver door mirror is mandatory. Passenger door mirror used to be optional... Don't know if that's still the case, but all cars cone with both door mirrors now, anyway.
I suspect the reason the TR mirrors were dealer installed was to prevent damage during shipping. The TR4 parts manual offers three type of door mirror: the more common "flag" type (round mirror head on a stalk, the bullet racing type like you installed here, and a "Raydot" style.
FWIW, whenever I work on a TR door window mechanism, I like to modify the stop at the bottom so the window can only be wound down to the point it's about flush with the outside rubber seal. This helps keep that seal from getting damaged when driving with the window down and my elbow resting in the top of the door (Joe Cool style 😎).
The same in the UK too
thanks Elin. I always learn something from your videos. Do you have " Competition Preparation TR-4-4A " by RW Kastner in your library ? It is an official Standard Triumph publication. Kastner ran TR4 racing in the US in the early '60s under Group 44 with Bob Tullius and others driving. He has a couple of paragraphs for the private owner as well as the full race stuff. Available for download and I think anyone working on a TR 4 would find it interesting. He did a lot of testing to come up with his recommendations. John in Manitoba.
Elin, what brand/model are the mirrors you installed? I purchased some a while back in that style but the mounting method was nowhere near that simple and I returned them. I'd like to pick those up if you still remember the brand/model.
@27:05 sorry for laughing
i remember back in 1970 my TR4 had mirrors mounted on the fenders around near the wheel arch and i really don't recall anyone saying they didn't belong and where out of place and if they did i can not recall , i use to have photos of that car but i can no longer find them
I've been waiting for another one finally.
Hope the owner is pay attention to comments .
oui il faut metre des led sur tous les ampoules les vieux ca ne eclaire pas bien la nuit meme sur les avant c'est plus beau
Mirror looks great. A big no on the brake light. Sorry.
I’ve never seen plastic on the inside before! Is that original?
Regards,
Sandy 🔧🏴
Inside the doors? Yes, there was that sheet of plastic in there to protect the back of the door trim ("card" as Elin calls it), which is little more than fibre board. The plastic keeps away any water that gets past the window seal, directing it to the bottom of the door where there are drains.
Look forward to seeing if the new sender and regulator sort out the temperature gauge problem, I'm sure they will.
A couple of polished carbs as well👌👌👌
That's an interesting brake light pod, amazing what can be made by 3D printing these days. With the magnets then it won't be too hard to return to the original if someone wants to. What you really need is a snow plough attachment😅😅
Great video, it's coming on step by step.
Good luck from Spain!!
I hope he wait after paint the car before he put the clear sheet on the car, than if he want to remove the clear sheet, he will destroy the paint too.
Why not stick the sheet to the magnets instead of the paint?