he did indicate, he did it too early and the driver was so far behind he misunderstood the speed he was coming at, and that led to it almost becoming lethal.
@@Pereux0 It's the fucking Autobahn bro. You have to be aware of the fast cars in the SPEED lane. Can't be merging into the lane going that slow. Different mindset but I know you won't understand seeing as you use "mph"
@@ynotsammyYeah bro going twice as fast as the rest of the cars around you is totally safe. If you understood anything about risk assessment when driving then you should anticipate people NOT checking for speeding cars. This guy almost demolished the back of this dude's car. Sure, that guy shouldn't have merged, but clearly he's driving way too fast to give himself enough reaction time. 🤷Sorry, I'm a believer in speeding only when there are no other cars around. You're just creating unsafe conditions for the traffic around you
@@nexus1999 damn, bro and six others really have a grudge against truckers for some reason. Guess they don't like having their local grocery stores being stocked
@@TheDennys21 Im saying this because enough accidents here happen because they actually do fall asleep or dont pay attention to the road ... many accidents happen that way and its just annoying at this Point. I know truckers and they see that shit all the time.
that initial lift off from 213 to 209 saved you. I always tend to hover the braking pedal when traffic starts merging regardless if they are in my way yet
Right, he should have been backing off more, it's hardly surprising to see someone indicate and move out when they shouldn't; it's simply not safe to pass a queue of cars like that at such a high relative speed, other drivers make errors.
yeah i always hover my foot in the brake and have cruise control on, with my left over the clutch if i’m near possible hazards to slow down slightly before fully committing to braking
For real. That’s good driving right there. Thinking way ahead. I also can see the possibility of that Golf missing the fast car in the mirror (for the other car in between).
I do the same. I actively monitor the road for potential hazards, I’ve seen enough dashcam footage to have an idea what tends to go wrong. In this case it’s not so easy because of the speed difference, it’s difficult to predict what’s going to happen so far ahead.
This is why I just assume everyone is going to do something stupid. Autobahn or not I probably would have backed off a little passing them under the assumption of something like that happening. That Golf probably still had no idea you were there.
ye if you dont check your mirrors you dont see ofc, especially if youre at phone, in description he said the driver was at phone, ofc in that type of road cause iq is high
It's Germany, mate. You check you mirrors 6x before switching lanes, especially if you're driving 100 where there is no speed limit and even after you've already changed lanes. This guy clearly wasn't paying attention at all.
Yeah.. I don’t trust them, especially when they’ve already positioned themselves too close to the truck. People who have no idea how to manage their space in front of them are usually even worse at managing the space behind them.
@@mobimaksThe speed differential was obvious they wouldn't hit the truck; and the truck is not going to brake - there is nothing in front of it to brake for, and in general drivers on the autombahn drive predictably (i.e. no sudden moves). The Golf is the exception. And better to miss a certain collision with the Golf, than a possible maybe (but clearly not) with the truck (even had the truck been closer, they could have made it across two lanes from there).
The civic is going unreasonably fast though. The autobahn isn't literally no speed limit, you still have to be able to control your vehicle and drive at a safe pace relative to other traffic
@@officerahmo Your acting like the driver of this clip was paying perfect attention as well. 0:13 the golf driver indicates and starts to merge lanes, looking at his RPM he didn't even attempt to let off or stop until 0:15.
@@alite0101dude that is 2 seconds, not a ton of time if you aren't expecting a crash. in retrospect it's easy to say what you're saying but when you're driving, those two seconds fly by as you're faced with thousands of little two second moments
@@veerravuri6210 not really. That’s why you drive defensively and cover the brake. It’s obvious the guys gonna start moving over when he’s behind a semi truck. Also Maybe don’t go 200 on a 2 lane road with traffic.
This is why, whenever I see a truck with a car behind and I'm on the left line, I automatically expect the car behind the truck to pull left at anytime, so most of the time I slow down to prevent any accidents. On the other hand, whenever I'm on the right lane, I never pull left when I see another vehicle quickly approximating
There has been a Truck, the black VW and a grey VAN. At that speed it is a matter of 5 seconds for the 200kph vehicle to appear in the mirror and to be as close as a crash. For the black VW it might have seemed like the road is free and no vehicle is approaching, when he checked. Thats why it also always at least partly is the fast drivers fault as soon as youre above 130kph
@@sparshmaheshwari4523 No judge ever will agree on that statement. If that is your approach on this, you will seriously endanger yourself and others. Pls do some training on mindful driving and decelerate - you are not alone
@@drteletubby are you insane? Honking would have achieved nothing in this situation. When travelling 200kmh you need to have your hands on the wheel to not crash
I reject the excuse that the golf driver wasn't paying attention. When I check my side mirrors to see if I can change lanes, I can always tell when someone is hauling ass in the fast lane. I wait for them to pass.
Considering that the minimum brake strength for the dutch mot is 5,2m/s². Which calculates to 75 kmph in 4 seconds, it is not even that impressive. Most modern new cars will reach above 8 m/s² which would be around 115 kmph.
@@mrcl11w31 it took the car a LONG time to slow down that little amount. Like previous commenter said, he literally JUST sappen the minimum barier for slowing down
Defensive driving 101, calculate other cars intent and assume they don't see you. A car behind a slower vehicle wanna overtake, prepare for that and don't risk your life they've seen you.
German drivers are generally quite aware of their surroundings, so it's safe to assume they're not gonna do something stupid. But as soon as the Golf started indicating, he should've stepped off the gas
@@Mirko____ Maybe, but some people are idiots, German or not, and you just need one idiot. Driving 200 km/h might be fine, or even also when overtaking someone, but not when there is intent to get in front of you. It is not going to be safe in any situation just because you follow the rules.
@@Firepipproductions I mean yeah, it's always better to slow down especially in situations like this. But if you wanna go fast, there's some risk to it and you have to rely on other people not being stupid.
And this is why I don't do 200 on the autobahn. Even if you're not at fault, the speed difference is just too large for the average goon to judge correctly. A big part of driving well is anticipating other peoples' mistakes, and there's no way you can when you approach them this quickly. Thank goodness you have quick responses, but preventing is better than curing.
When the road is empty, you can push 2oo quite safely. Hell, on the A3 you often have traffic flowing at 160 in the centre lane and faster on the left one, so going slower would hinder other drivers.
In the autobahn you have to exaggerate your braking in timing and intensity. I would have probably coasted or braked in this situation, with a very slow truck holding back faster cars. The VW would still have pulled out in front.
@@holydamien erratically? He was going a constant speed, and he avoided a crash that wouldn’t have been his fault… put all the blame on this guy who pulled out infront of someone, I don’t get people’s obsession with putting the blame on cam car
When taking an advanced drivers course in UK we had the opportunity to use Ford’s test track. Some of the tasks included doing emergency stops at various speeds. If you really ram your foot on the brake pedal it is surprising how quickly you can stop. With ABS you can drive round hazards.
@@GamiingHQ He is talking about the advanced drivers course. So if you learn something in a course, you obviously didnt learn it while doing your license
I'm not in the UK but we have a similar driving course structure. Advanced driving courses here are for emergency services (think ambulance or other EMS) I think you're supposed to be taught to do emergency brakes for standard licenses but it's not carried out often as it wears brakes too much.
@@dermuschelschluerfer You are meant to be able to know how to do an emergency stop and a third of all driving tests must include an emergency stop - that said, the speed at which you do it is usually pretty uniform (20-30 mph in city, 40-50 mph on country roads).
This is arguably the biggest danger of the Autobahn. It's not the speed in and by itself, but that drivers are driving as such incredible different speeds. I've almost caused a similar situation on the Autobahn. Looking to overtake slower vehicles, looking in my rear mirrors, seeing that there's noone even close, only to then realize that despite me already driving at 140km/h, the car behind is catching FAST. In my case I stopped my overtake and got back in lane before it was any danger, but it can be very difficult to judge just how fast people behind you are catching when there's essentially free speed.
I've been on the autobahn a number of times. You check twice when moving to the passing lane. Also, most cars flying that fast will signal their brights well before passing anyone. At least that was my experience.
@@bluemystic7501 flashing brights for overtaking is illegal. Usually people only do it if you don't move or they want to get your attention it's the same as honking.
My grandmother drives a 2015 Honda CR-V. It has insanely great brakes. When she first bought it, I was riding with her and she pushed the brake pedal down as far as she had to in her 2003 Highlander to stop. The Highlander has a bit of a mushy brake pedal compared to the CR-V and the CR-V stopped on a dime literally taking the wind out of me with the seatbelt. Both cars still run great. The CR-V has 40k miles and the Highlander has 215k miles. I will forever trust Japanese cars with safety and reliability.
This video is perfect example why we are thought in school to look at mirror 3 times.... if the vehicle is far away first time and much closer the second, you don't change lanes. Also extra caution is required on "no limit" zones where I've seen people fly past at 280+....
@@heysiri_official Its not crazy that we drive fast, its crazy that people ignore basic rules under These circumstancew and just pull out. Stuff like that would also happen at 130. No difference. People just need to watch their fucking mirror and dont act like they are the only ones on the Autobahn
Sad is that most of the people commenting here complain on guy who was driving 200 on no limit autobahn instead of roasting fu**** idiot who just change the lane without looking on damn mirror. That’s 90% of German and Dutch drivers - fu****** ignorants risking their own and others lives.
@@TH-camrChannelNL Thank god that only a small fraction of the people going 200+ are idiots, otherwise there would be a lot more crashes than there currently are😬
Although it's not legal to change lane when you're being overtaken (at least in France), it's also a good thing to watch for those situations. 2 close truckers, cars getting closer to a truck, etc...
@@after_midnight9592 they can and they have to wait until the left lane is free. Driving behind a truck is not a hazardous situation at all (at least let me say that for Germany). It doesn't matter what they want
@@DxCBuG slightly disagree with the idea of waiting “until the lane is free”. If there is sufficient traffic that could mean waiting for a long time. Ideally, you would want for the other drivers to not having to brake, but sometimes you do need to force others to slow down somewhat to be able to switch lanes. The important thing is to ensure that they have plenty of time to brake and to keep monitoring them to make sure they actually have seen you.
@@aphextwin5712 if there is a lot of traffic it's a different situation. If there's not... They can wait. If you have to force it, you're doing it wrong sorry
Thank god no one was hurt. The golf did used the indicator. But off course should have never made an attempt at getting into the fast lane with you approaching at those speeds.
Honda has excellent brakes and I can testify to that when I had to emergency break from 210km/h to 0 because of sheep on the road just after a hill top. I stopped with 20m distance margin ;) If it had been my Opel Astra there would be dead sheep all over ... (but then I would not drive that fast because of the bad breaks... never drive faster then what you know you can safely stop at)
All stock brakes are capable of doing that sort of braking if they are in decent condition and the car is at normal weight for its design. Not repeatedly, But Ebraking is the normal design requirement.
@@Schreibtisch1 i found the same to be true test driving some new vehicles, of course everyone diving out trying to get hit while i'm driving someone elses car and these systems did not react once
I don't know how you reframed from using the horn after you composed yourself. Stupid people. Almost got ran over by an idiot not checking their blind spot the other week, the horn saved me haha.
it was only two lanes for a short time. There was an "Einfahrt". I personally wouldn't drive that fast anyway, but it's not really THAT unsafe, considering what other people do on our Autobahn-
tbh it should be safe enough to go fast considering its the autobahn. if someone is driving on it, they know the rules and they know full well that there isnt a speed limit. and if the driver did want to cut out, they should also have at least put on their turn signals too.
The fault is 100% on the Golf. No excuses. He was behind the truck so driving at maximum 90 km/h, even if the car approaching at high speed was doing 150 km/h, he would have merged in front of him, making him decelerate significantly. That Golf's driver is an idiot. And he s not used to drive on the Autobahn, as I can recognize his plate being a French one.
Usually there is a speed limit of 120 on sections that have merging lanes, especially if it's only a 2-lane Autobahn. Not sure why it's different in the video.
I had this happen to me once on the autobahn. There was bad traffic due to road work so I started to slow down since I still had allot of space. Then suddenly a truck went into the left lane and I had to stand on the brakes and miss hitting it by only 30cm (about 1foot). I had been going 200km/h and about 180 when I needed to start braking hard. I have never been more relieved in my life
Happened to me multiple times during a single day here in Slovakia. The difference here isn´t as high (maximum is 130 for cars and 90 for trucks), there isn´t even much of a highway to talk about, but still - it was enough for me to start actively avoiding highways here. There are many nice, empty 1st class roads nobody uses, since the highway was built.
@@Fabio-ql5yf the traffic was good till the point where road works where ahead and I already started slowing down. There was no reason for the truck to just swerve to the left
@@Fabio-ql5yf when looking back at this video yes you van say breaking early would’ve been better. I’m my situation too but when driving at these speeds you can’t look at one car for more than a second since that’s to dangerous. And when you slow down every time a car is in the right then there’s no purpose driving on the autobahn in the first place.
@@fredpuntdroad8701 You sound exactly like my dad. I like going fast and this is one of the only legal ways to do so. And I don't do this every day and this was a one time expierence I had. Also my life moto is: I am here for a good time not a boring long time.
I had a close experience last week in autobahn. It was the first time i had to drive in free speed limit road ( im from France and our highway are limited 130kph max ). I was at 170 in autobahn then a guy with something like Mercedes just merged into my way at 90 kph. Losing from 170 from 90 was intense in no time. Edit : no turn light for my case, so i was surprised
Always consider, close to the border in European Countries driving is often worse than further inland as there is a lot of mobility across the border meaning a lot of drivers you encounter there are not used to the kinks and quirks of driving in that specific country.
That's why you always indicate well in advance of switching lanes to let everyone else know that you intend to switch lanes. Least if you fail to spot the other vehicle/misjudge the speed, then the driver of that vehicle has a few extra seconds to get out of the way/drive accordingly. It is bizarre that a large amount of motorists fail to do this and then go on to cause a very dangerous situation
They did. If you watch the video again, look at when that driver indicates a lane change compared to when the driver who took the video decides it's a good idea to hit the brakes. They're both somewhat at fault for this near miss imo
@@XavierVelez-xq2wc yeah, I went through a few times to check the turn signal. The video guy was wayyy behind golf, and golf used turn signals, so in normal circumstances that would have been a safe enough lane change (but of course I've only driven in places with at most a 70 speed limit). Guy really should have started braking when he saw the turn signal to let people in.
@@real_dddf no. you have the right of way on the left lane. and its unlimited. slower cars need to be on the right and if they want to overtake (the truck in this case) they need to make sure that there is absolutely nobody. and if someone is coming fast, you dont overtake. forcing people to brake because you overtake is extremly dangerous.
That's why you should ALWAYS be alert when someone is driving behind a truck, because there's a good chance they're just going to drive into your lane going 100kph, even though they see you coming at 190kph.
Even though tailgaters have 70IQ and quite literally are too stupid to use mirrors correctly, probably don't even recognize themselves in a mirror, and definitely don't see you coming at 190kph...
This is why you should match your speed to be close to the surrounding traffic. It's not simply a matter of "too fast", it's too fast relative to the other traffic, where everyone's expecting the traffic around them to be moving at a similar speed. People that speed like this think they won't get into an accident because they're good drivers, but the reality is you can't expect other road users to notice you or react to you in time.
In Germany, there's a target speed recommendation of 130 km/h (80 mph). If you drive faster and an accident appears, you have a partial liability even your behaviour was fully correct.
Stepping fully on the brakes at 200+ is a special feeling. Everyone who drives that fast should have done it once (on an empty Autobahn) before a dangerous situation occurs.
What you wrote is so real. Unfortunately I had to try it because of similar situation as in the video. Everything fine but still. It was very special feeling when I hit full on the brakes with 220+ Crazy...
This is a very good advice. In general, people should practice emergency braking at different speeds, and learn to correct under and oversteer. It's a good thing to learn the limits of what your car can do and how you can react
I guess unpopular opinion, but this wouldn't have happened if there was a speed limit of say 130kmh. Driving at these high speeds is super risky, bad for fuel consumption, wears out your car much faster and doesn't even save much time, as you almost never can maintain these speeds for a long time. If people want to drive fast they should go on a race track and not endanger people with their driving. After reading some of the other comments I want to add. Driving fast is not s privilege, so you can't expect someone to not make you brake at especially at high speeds. Imagine a car with low hp wants to overtake a semi truck, it can take them minutes if they only drive a few kmh more and still they are not assholes for not going fast on the left lane. Still what is seen on this video is risky driving from the person recorded and mistakes from the golf... Glad nothing happened
This is Bullshit, less than 0.03% of accident deaths are due to excessive speed. The German driving license is the strictest and most demanding in the world, you have to complete several months of training before you can take the test.
That happened to me recently, only that I was the idiot not seeing the incoming car. It was in the evening and the sun was in my back and then the truck driver on the right lane startet switching to the middle on where I was. I had to switch quite fast and I didn’t see the Mercedes coming on the left lane with high speed because the sun completely covered the Mercedes. Nothing happened luckily, but it was a big shock for everyone. I’m still feeling sorry that this happened
Bad driver who admits his fault publicly. Here is a tip, Anytime I am driving, I always keep checking my mirrors all the time (both side mirrors and the rear view mirror). This helps me b3 aware of my sorroundings so in times of obscured view like you described, I will naturally slow down because I feel the disconnection from my sorroundings and I will naturally become cautious or changing lanes because humans will naturally slow down on something they are not certain about therefore, in a case like yours, you would have not merged blindly
@@BadThrusher I wouldn’t consider myself a bad driver. In almost 9 years of driving that was the first time something like this happened. Again, it was a dumb situation but it still shouldn’t have happened. The thing is, this won’t happen again. Human error doesn’t make someone bad at something.
@@CptUhudiniWell, thankfully this situation never happened to myself, but I usually check my side mirrors (no middle mirror because van with middle wall) to be able to react to police/ambulance rather quickly. Sometimes I even had to go 20 km/h over the speed limit (on certain parts, where there is a posted speed limit) just to find room to merge right, so that I don't hold them up. One ambulance even thanked me for that. Also, when I have the sun in my mirrors blinding me, I always slow down somewhat when approaching trucks to give myself more time to check for faster cars in the left lane before passing.
I would say that in Germany on some days it is much safer to drive 150-170 km/h than 100-120 km/h. 170 km/h is often the flow of traffic on the left, 150 km/h in the middle and 80-100 km/h on the right. If you're traveling at 110km/h on the right, you have to be extremely careful at all times if you just want to overtake a truck. You either constantly slow people down or wait forever until you can overtake without slowing down others. Your “mistake” would not have happened in this form at 150 km/h. Experience has shown that usually a truck doesn't drive in front of you - the Mercedes wouldn't have had to brake so hard or - the best option - you would have accelerated 300 meters beforehand - and pulled over to the far left at 180 km/h. Some people think this is a specifically German problem. My experience is that things run extremely smoothly and safely here, even without a speed limit, and most people are safe drivers. In France or Switzerland, despite the limit, you have at least the same problems and more ruthlessness. Things are really bad in Italy.
@@ylzerb6188 bro what nah if you cut infront of someone it's your fault. You're 100% allowed to go 300 on the autobahn if you want, that's what it's for, if you hit someone that's been in the left lane the whole time it's your fault, but not if they just changed lanes into you
@@aribeauchamp899 yeah i know i live there, but you also need to be driving responsibly. If youre going 130 you might not even see someone going 300 because they just appear too fast ;) fast going driver should adjust their speed if he sees slow traffic
@@aribeauchamp899 No. Eventhough you are generally allowed to drive as fast as you want, going significantly faster than the "suggested speed" of 130km/h can result in a partial blame. Basically, it is "legal but on your own risk". So the fact that he was going 200km/h, and therefore had a lot less time to react than if he was going 130km/h and the Golf pulling out with 110km/h, might result in a partial blame.
As an owner of a sport+ 1.5 vtec i know how good the brakes are, they are absolutely amazing probably just as well! I have driven for 4 years on the autobahns and the one thing I always always checked when pulling out was for high speed motors! Very lucky escape.
This is my #1 fear when on the Autobahn. I keep a hawk's eye out for blinkers and always show down around obscure turns because I had a close call similar to this
No Honking, No HighBeam, No Swearing, No Middle Fingers , No Hand Gestures. Peacefully focusing on the rood while slamming on the brakes, that what probably saved him. Learn a thing or two from this video ( to every other nation)
yep that's why on the autobahn i never go full out on a 2 lane. the problem is trucks in the right lane driving 90/100 and cars overtake them at 110/120
Driving should always be done with a defensive mindset because you HAVE to assume that the other drivers are idiots (they ignore road rules, don't look when merging, use their phone, etc). The principle of who's right/who's to blame doesn't matter if you crash. At the end of the day, you'll still (almost certainly) be paralysed/dead. Is knowing that you had the moral high ground still worth it then? At a 200km/h speed you have a braking distance of ~25 feet given a normal reaction time. This makes you an idiot because that doesn't offer you enough time to react to other idiots. Slow and steady wins the race. Nowhere is worth the risks of driving at that speed. Doesn't matter if this speed is legal or if many other drivers do the same. None of that matters the moment you hit some willfully ignorant idiot that pulls out without looking and you spend the rest of your life eating dinner through straws.
this is a big reason electric cars also lose huge economy the faster they go, the main thing that makes them lose power is just the drag so even at just 120 km/h you're getting way less fuel (electricity?) economy than if you were driving at say 90 km/h
its accelerating that eats up fuel once you're at cruising speed (like 200km/h) its not that much when i just got my license ive driven my fathers car (V10 5l TDI) for thousands of km on the autobahn to take him to meetings and i drove 200km/h+ whenever possible on those trips it used like 9-11l/100km not bad for a 20~ year old car
@@TheRolemodel1337 That's a diesel car which was made to drive at high speed. Now put a 1.5 liter gas engine to go 200 km/h and you will see it's burning way more than 10 liters per 100km as it's struggling to even keep up with that speed.
@@TheRolemodel1337 200km/h is not cruising speed, cars are efficient at 100 to 120km/h, even at 130km/h you get a significant efficiency loss on most cars.
I hope when you drive 120 km/h on the left lane that some one changes lane last second going 40 km/h. Then I will say the same “That happens when you drive 120km/h”
No he did. But the driver is 500m far away 2 second before ... That's why the speed is the first reason of car crash.
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@@photographemodeparis you’re actually supposed to look in your mirror for at least a second, not take a screenshot. But I agree speed is part of the cause. I just guarantee you this person did not look. Watching your mirror for a split second is not looking.
@@photographemodeparis if they got their drivers license in germany they should know that cars in the left lane could be moving at much higher speeds than they do... its just careless drving from the driver of the vw
You know I went through this alot, and also on speeds not as high as 210kmh, but like 150/160. Most of the time it's elderly people not able to drive properly anymore. And I think it's sad for those people, but take the train or bus. Even in the city, they're massively dangerous. They wouldnt see a small child, probably not even notice running over one. In my opinion old people are more dangerous than 20 year olds.
If everyone drove like elderly people, the roads would be a safe place. If everyone drove like a youngster, the roads would be a safe place. If everyone drove like a woman, the roads would be a safe place. But there are different kinds of people and people drive differently. What you find a proper driving, somebody else calls an unpredictable driving behaviour. For example in this video, the Golf driver did not expect somebody behind him to go 200+ km/h, because he couldn't imagine anybody could drive so dangerously fast.
@@pokineusz3501 The Golf driver is still the one driving unsafely. When driving, you should expect the worst, and especially on the Autobahn you should expect people driving fast. 200 km/h is completely legal there, so you should expect someone driving that fast any time.
@@pokineusz3501 if everyone drove like elderly people, which means very slow ability to react, a lot of deaths would be the result. I'm absolutely not talking about 60+, nor am I trying to say that every old person drives like that. I'm saying that it occured to me way too often, in town or out, that an old person that is actually not able to drive safely anymore, still is out on the road. Ive seen too many occasions where very old people dont see and hear whats coming and almost cause a crash. Although yes, youngsters can be dangerous, but it's a percentage of young people that actually drives recklessly, not everyone.
the other car was moving away at 120km/h, so we must not draw a wrong conclusion, it is actually impossible to avoid colliding from a 200km/h speed, except this special case.
@@Fabio-ql5yf it is because when something enter your lane suddenly from left or right, in front of your eyes, it is already within approximately ~100m, and that is within the "reaction & braking distance limit" for a 112km/h vehicle. If at 200km/h then it won't help, it will be worse. However in this video the other vehicle is moving away at 120km/h, so effectively the relative speed between vehicle is only 200km/h - 120km/h = 80km/h.
Even on limited speed sections, always watch closely in your left mirror. Anticipate everything. A vehicle far away could get closer very quickly if it's fast enough.
Not in this situation it isn’t! Golf driver was a woman and she was on her phone (according to OP), in this situation it was just a really bad driver..
@@sayven Yep, from my experience, the worst drivers you'll ever meet are going to be almost always women. I thought it's common knowledge amongst experienced drivers.
@@suspendedtwice4sayingrasis261 Personal experience is a tricky thing. There's a number of cognitive biases, like Confirmation, Negativity and Recency bias, that could distort our memory of how many bad drivers are women. That's why I try as much as I can to ignore these impressions, unless I can find empirical evidence that supports my view.
This is exactly why we need the 130km/h limit. There will always be people who make mistakes like this.. these huge speed differences are way too dangerous
Wird sich politisch nie durchsetzen. Dafür bräuchten SPD und Grüne ne Mehrheit was sie nicht haben und in der Zukunft wohl weit nicht erreichen werden.
Dutch drivers are a real problem in Germany. They drive veeeery slowly in NL and then try to change lanes at 100km/h using the left lane. I had two close shaves recently and in both cases the drivers were Dutch.
As a Dutch person, true. I just came from vacation in Kroatia and having to cross the entirety of Germany we passed hundreds of Dutch people going slow while we were only going like 140km/h
Right at the end, I think I hear a horn. If that Golf driver really was the one honking, I have officially lost all remaining hope and faith in humanity.
@@Schreibtisch1 Ah okei, that's what I thought. I did the same when I accidentally cut someone off when turning left 😅 I had just gotten my license, luckily there was no danger
I mean this was obviously the Golf's fault, but I do hope the camera learned a lesson here as well: Always expect other drivers mistakes. Especially here where there are cars following a truck, just slow down when approaching these situations, if nothing happens you lost like 10s of going 200+ and you can just speed up again. IF an accident happens here you'd be lucky to even be able to think about who is at fault. Going 200+ is perfectly fine, but always consider the situation and adjust your speed to it.
In the right lane I think you should always do a double check of the left lane. The first check to make sure that there is nobody there, and the second check to confirm the speed of anyone who was there in the first check
@HelloWorld-zg3gs it is actually not even a "you should" but you must bcs any car in the left lane ofc has right of way over any car from right lane that wants to switch lanes so simply indicating to switch lanes by turn signal and then switching lanes immediately is illegal. That's like turn signal at traffic lights and simply driving left crossing the others passage...illegal..
Even if you do all of these, if the car behind you is coming with 200 km/h, you literally don't see it BEHIND you because it's way too fast to notice that the car is closer to you than you think. This is why you should not speed, speeding makes you harder to be noticed by others.
@@vbw4501 yeah but there is no speed limit on the autobahn so there’s no such thing as speeding. I would expect a driver on that road to have a different level of skill. Also that driver got over in the left lane only 100-200 feet in front of the other guy.
exactly, people are completely confusing 2 things: skilled driving and safe driving.This is the kind of person who makes me wish for a speed limit, you need to use common sense if you want to drive that fast unless you want to slam the brakes every 30 seconds and die around the 20th time
And that's why we have speed limits in more sensible countries. Being on a road where two vehicles can be traveling at speeds which are more than 100 km/h apart is just asking for trouble
That happens daily to me. After a while you get used to it and slow down earlier. And always have Plan B. If you can't anticipate situations like this, drive slowly!
@@VonkieTonkie That's not what Hias has said. If you don't want to drive fast on the Autobahn, then don't get in the way of people who do. Driving on the Autobahn is safer than driving rural or in cities, it's just that there are idiots who think that nobody should drive fast and want to lecture everyone.
Motorway with 2 lanes is not motorway for me!!Every couple of minutes someone will be switching lanes or lorries overtaking each other!!Driving with 200 on this road is risk for everyone!!
I see so many of these videos and usually they aren’t really braking that hard. This might be the first video where I wasn’t sure whether or not the car would slow in time.
Never blast by with such a speed difference to middle lane, always count on others making mistakes that you can still correct, rookie mistake and risky
@@Schreibtisch1 True just the upcoming traffic lane after all, with two lanes only it gets even more risky as the right lane vehicles mostly have low speed sitting behind trucks, always good to count in margin of error :)
@@LiveLifeLasting It's normal to drive at that speed past traffic in the right lane. If you want to come left you know that your going to cause an accident if you don't check properly. This is an abnormal driver.
@@iwonder1216 Of course he needs to check, that not the point at all, that’s a given. Generally, you have to still be able to react if the driver like here makes a mistake. Won’t help you if you were in the right but die because the other made the mistake ;) Greets from Germany
These folks going 110 in the left lane are usually those who tell others to obey the speed limit of 100. There not just so annoying, but their also super dangerous.
You know its bad when you have 0% focus on honking and 100% focus on surviving.
True
A lot of accidents could be prevented if people try to avoid a crash in the first place instead of honking
@@krorook9221 i'll one up you. Alot of accidents can be avoided with sufficient attention and coordination.
are we gonna ignore the fastest hazard light activation my eyes had ever seen?
@@BRP-Moto-Tips hazard lights are automatic if u brake hard enough
I‘m astonished by how well those brakes worked
Might have also been a system breaking automatically from the warning sound but I might be wrong
@@jbmntx8647 same brakes though.
@@jbmntx8647 I think when ABS engage under heavy braking it starts flashing the emergency lights to notify people behind
Honda.
And that is why people don't keep a safe distance to the car at front.
Holy crap- that was close.
@@mysterymachine9843 yes it was, why should it not be close?
@@mysterymachine9843 it definetly was close
@@mysterymachine9843 you should probably rewatch or it could just be your 2$ screen not showing it correctly
Its a troll guys.
@@makke08 don't mind a troll lmao
No indication, no mirror check. Some people just shouldn't drive.
he did indicate, he did it too early and the driver was so far behind he misunderstood the speed he was coming at, and that led to it almost becoming lethal.
@@BigScythez
Still shouldn’t be driving lol
@@Pereux0 It's the fucking Autobahn bro. You have to be aware of the fast cars in the SPEED lane. Can't be merging into the lane going that slow. Different mindset but I know you won't understand seeing as you use "mph"
@@BigScythez You must not know how to drive if you think that you should turn off the indication before finishing the manoeuvre.
@@ynotsammyYeah bro going twice as fast as the rest of the cars around you is totally safe. If you understood anything about risk assessment when driving then you should anticipate people NOT checking for speeding cars. This guy almost demolished the back of this dude's car. Sure, that guy shouldn't have merged, but clearly he's driving way too fast to give himself enough reaction time.
🤷Sorry, I'm a believer in speeding only when there are no other cars around. You're just creating unsafe conditions for the traffic around you
Guaranteed that trucker was staring in his mirror watching that go down. Incredible that you were able to avoid an accident.
Guaranteed that the trucker was on his phone or asleep so he didnt notice shit
@@nexus1999 ?
@@nexus1999 yeah ok buddy, hahaha asleep? He wouldn't get far if he was asleep. Truckers constantly check their mirrors.
@@nexus1999 damn, bro and six others really have a grudge against truckers for some reason. Guess they don't like having their local grocery stores being stocked
@@TheDennys21 Im saying this because enough accidents here happen because they actually do fall asleep or dont pay attention to the road ... many accidents happen that way and its just annoying at this Point. I know truckers and they see that shit all the time.
You know those brakes were glowing after that
brakes
@@712erik grammar nazi
@@712erik thank you i was gonna do that 😂😂
@@712erik Well I dont want to admit that Im stupid and illiterate sooo Im just going to blame it on auto correct.
@@JoePez I love you, legend XD
That's insane. Merging from 80/100 when someone is flying down 210 is insane
You said it the wrong way around. Flying down 210 when people are merging at normal speeds is insane
@@nimton1758the car could’ve looked in his mirrors and waited then switched lanes. It’s the autobahn a lot of people drive fast in the left lane
@@nimton1758 People driving fast on the autobahn somehow justifies not safely merging?
@@nimton1758 and when ur merging. dont drive behind the truck, catch up the speed before and merge 200 300 meters before.
@@Dankes-rt5gt It's too far away and you can't see that it's coming at 210 when looking in your mirror.
that initial lift off from 213 to 209 saved you. I always tend to hover the braking pedal when traffic starts merging regardless if they are in my way yet
Exactly
Right, he should have been backing off more, it's hardly surprising to see someone indicate and move out when they shouldn't; it's simply not safe to pass a queue of cars like that at such a high relative speed, other drivers make errors.
yeah i always hover my foot in the brake and have cruise control on, with my left over the clutch if i’m near possible hazards to slow down slightly before fully committing to braking
For real. That’s good driving right there. Thinking way ahead. I also can see the possibility of that Golf missing the fast car in the mirror (for the other car in between).
I do the same. I actively monitor the road for potential hazards, I’ve seen enough dashcam footage to have an idea what tends to go wrong. In this case it’s not so easy because of the speed difference, it’s difficult to predict what’s going to happen so far ahead.
Massive respect for the tyres and the braking assembly..
You mean "Tires"...
@@deadcell1 bro I am an Indian, which has influence of Britain, so tyre..
@maruti_rakshit9867 you mean... "tire"
@@bigman5659no, he means tyre
@@stefanalecu9532 you sure? I think he meant "tire" (4920616d206a6f6b696e67)
My dad the other day went from 167 km/h to 40 after a guy did the same. My soul left my body.
Why was he going 167?
@@Zylink2point0 he should be old enough to know better. Smh
@@FG-bu3jpAre u degenerated?
@@FG-bu3jpMore like the other guy should watch his fucking mirrors - but I digress.
@@FG-bu3jpwhy not go 167?
This is why I just assume everyone is going to do something stupid. Autobahn or not I probably would have backed off a little passing them under the assumption of something like that happening. That Golf probably still had no idea you were there.
ye if you dont check your mirrors you dont see ofc, especially if youre at phone, in description he said the driver was at phone, ofc in that type of road cause iq is high
It's Germany, mate. You check you mirrors 6x before switching lanes, especially if you're driving 100 where there is no speed limit and even after you've already changed lanes. This guy clearly wasn't paying attention at all.
The Golf should have actually looked. It's his/her fault.
Funny thing is he did, look at the blue bar 😂
@@tradenoob4738 this video literally proved you wrong.
Always be careful when someone's behind a truck.
Yeah.. I don’t trust them, especially when they’ve already positioned themselves too close to the truck. People who have no idea how to manage their space in front of them are usually even worse at managing the space behind them.
Incredible braking and good use of the steering to avoid the crash.
@@tahsin28 Watch towards the end how he steers the car to the right to avoid crashing.
Yup and calmly moved slight right, not oversteering and losing control
@@BrianBadondebowl If you want to drive slow, then avoid the Autobahn.
@@subhodipbanerjee6699 I don't think steering was a good idea. He could have crashed into a truck. He was just lucky the truck didn't start braking.
@@mobimaksThe speed differential was obvious they wouldn't hit the truck; and the truck is not going to brake - there is nothing in front of it to brake for, and in general drivers on the autombahn drive predictably (i.e. no sudden moves). The Golf is the exception. And better to miss a certain collision with the Golf, than a possible maybe (but clearly not) with the truck (even had the truck been closer, they could have made it across two lanes from there).
Wow, that's next level of "don't give a dolly, I'm pulling over..."
You see them every day on the autobahn
@@LorenzJahn Doesnt give him way...
Sounded like McDonald’s when the beeper sounded
The civic is going unreasonably fast though. The autobahn isn't literally no speed limit, you still have to be able to control your vehicle and drive at a safe pace relative to other traffic
@@zed625 but that also includes NOT taking over a truck with 115kmh
It's insane how often this sort of close call happens on the road.
And surprising, that each one does not end up as an accident.
Alert defensive driving does the trick. Why do people get in crashes when they're going wayy slower that 200? They don't pay attention.
@@officerahmo Your acting like the driver of this clip was paying perfect attention as well. 0:13 the golf driver indicates and starts to merge lanes, looking at his RPM he didn't even attempt to let off or stop until 0:15.
@@alite0101dude that is 2 seconds, not a ton of time if you aren't expecting a crash. in retrospect it's easy to say what you're saying but when you're driving, those two seconds fly by as you're faced with thousands of little two second moments
@@veerravuri6210 not really. That’s why you drive defensively and cover the brake. It’s obvious the guys gonna start moving over when he’s behind a semi truck. Also
Maybe don’t go 200 on a 2 lane road with traffic.
This is why, whenever I see a truck with a car behind and I'm on the left line, I automatically expect the car behind the truck to pull left at anytime, so most of the time I slow down to prevent any accidents. On the other hand, whenever I'm on the right lane, I never pull left when I see another vehicle quickly approximating
Exactly, people don't watch their mirrors, and are too impatient
There has been a Truck, the black VW and a grey VAN.
At that speed it is a matter of 5 seconds for the 200kph vehicle to appear in the mirror and to be as close as a crash.
For the black VW it might have seemed like the road is free and no vehicle is approaching, when he checked.
Thats why it also always at least partly is the fast drivers fault as soon as youre above 130kph
Its not the fast drivers fault. Left is supposed to be speed lane. If you drive slow you are supposed to drive right.
@@sparshmaheshwari4523 No judge ever will agree on that statement. If that is your approach on this, you will seriously endanger yourself and others.
Pls do some training on mindful driving and decelerate - you are not alone
@@Grimmiges_Ranarrkraut bud its autobahn, there are speed limits defined for each lane.
Good on you for actually braking instead of just honking. That's already better than 90% of drivers out there.
So 90% drivers would’ve honked and crashed into the Golf?
@@alexanderfrankenberger1118
Yes
Ideally honking AND braking would've been the play, just in case the other driver wasn't paying attention
@@alexanderfrankenberger1118 definitely.
@@drteletubby are you insane? Honking would have achieved nothing in this situation. When travelling 200kmh you need to have your hands on the wheel to not crash
I reject the excuse that the golf driver wasn't paying attention. When I check my side mirrors to see if I can change lanes, I can always tell when someone is hauling ass in the fast lane. I wait for them to pass.
Fax also W driveclub pfp
@@miepmaster25 Golf driver was on their phone (refer to desc.) so yeah they were distracted
I do the same...i prefer to wait and then, when nobody is comming accelarate kind of hard and overtake
Not many people have brains like you.
There is no "fast lane" just passing lane lmao. Bad driver detected
More than one flash of a turn signal tends to be nice in high-speed situations
the car made that signal, not the driver
People in Germany tend not to use turn signals on Autobahn at all.
In most cars (at least in Europe) when your ABS activates, it also activates the hazard lights
@@pedromartinez1 Everyone knows the Autobahn is a race track
du weißt doch nicht mal wovon du redest
He slowed by 95kph in four seconds. Those are some good brakes.
Considering that the minimum brake strength for the dutch mot is 5,2m/s². Which calculates to 75 kmph in 4 seconds, it is not even that impressive.
Most modern new cars will reach above 8 m/s² which would be around 115 kmph.
Shows more how incredibly HEAVY this car is....
@@wildwilco Shouldn't heavier cars take longer to brake?
@@mrcl11w31 it took the car a LONG time to slow down that little amount. Like previous commenter said, he literally JUST sappen the minimum barier for slowing down
Bet he's got a harness bruise!
28l/100km... Eco friendly
yolo
At that consumption you have to refill the tank every 200 km 🤣
28l... but for 1.5 km at high speed...
my parents have this civic, at 130kph it does 5.7 to 6, depending on passengers and whatnot, on American 87 octane fuel ("regular" not premium)
Time at home is finite, fast driving makes more time with family.
Defensive driving 101, calculate other cars intent and assume they don't see you. A car behind a slower vehicle wanna overtake, prepare for that and don't risk your life they've seen you.
When you see that the first reflex is to slow down I agree, that was logic.
German drivers are generally quite aware of their surroundings, so it's safe to assume they're not gonna do something stupid. But as soon as the Golf started indicating, he should've stepped off the gas
@@Mirko____ Maybe, but some people are idiots, German or not, and you just need one idiot.
Driving 200 km/h might be fine, or even also when overtaking someone, but not when there is intent to get in front of you. It is not going to be safe in any situation just because you follow the rules.
@@Firepipproductions I mean yeah, it's always better to slow down especially in situations like this. But if you wanna go fast, there's some risk to it and you have to rely on other people not being stupid.
@@Mirko____ You right but as a french i'm allways looking for a stupid action
10th gen looks mighty composed with that braking. The chassis is so underrated.
The 10th gen chassis is very stiff, therefore really good.
Which is a variation of the 9th gen chassis
What 10th gen Benz is this
@@stiffg1443 bro it's a civic
@@stiffg1443It’s a Honda 🤣
For us American dudes:
210 km/h = 130 mph
Fuck freedom units
@aintnoway686 yeah sure
And this is why I don't do 200 on the autobahn. Even if you're not at fault, the speed difference is just too large for the average goon to judge correctly.
A big part of driving well is anticipating other peoples' mistakes, and there's no way you can when you approach them this quickly. Thank goodness you have quick responses, but preventing is better than curing.
When the road is empty, you can push 2oo quite safely. Hell, on the A3 you often have traffic flowing at 160 in the centre lane and faster on the left one, so going slower would hinder other drivers.
In the autobahn you have to exaggerate your braking in timing and intensity. I would have probably coasted or braked in this situation, with a very slow truck holding back faster cars. The VW would still have pulled out in front.
@@holydamieni see ZERO signaling from VW
@@holydamienhe can drive properly??
@@holydamien erratically? He was going a constant speed, and he avoided a crash that wouldn’t have been his fault… put all the blame on this guy who pulled out infront of someone, I don’t get people’s obsession with putting the blame on cam car
When taking an advanced drivers course in UK we had the opportunity to use Ford’s test track. Some of the tasks included doing emergency stops at various speeds. If you really ram your foot on the brake pedal it is surprising how quickly you can stop. With ABS you can drive round hazards.
You dont learn that while doing your license in the uk?
@@dermuschelschluerfer Where in the comment does it say anything about getting your license?
@@GamiingHQ He is talking about the advanced drivers course. So if you learn something in a course, you obviously didnt learn it while doing your license
I'm not in the UK but we have a similar driving course structure. Advanced driving courses here are for emergency services (think ambulance or other EMS)
I think you're supposed to be taught to do emergency brakes for standard licenses but it's not carried out often as it wears brakes too much.
@@dermuschelschluerfer You are meant to be able to know how to do an emergency stop and a third of all driving tests must include an emergency stop - that said, the speed at which you do it is usually pretty uniform (20-30 mph in city, 40-50 mph on country roads).
This is arguably the biggest danger of the Autobahn.
It's not the speed in and by itself, but that drivers are driving as such incredible different speeds.
I've almost caused a similar situation on the Autobahn. Looking to overtake slower vehicles, looking in my rear mirrors, seeing that there's noone even close, only to then realize that despite me already driving at 140km/h, the car behind is catching FAST.
In my case I stopped my overtake and got back in lane before it was any danger, but it can be very difficult to judge just how fast people behind you are catching when there's essentially free speed.
that´s why you need to check the mirror twice before merging, so you can judge the speed
@@kubeek unfortunately you don't get taught in school how to measure speed in the mirror and and top of that most people are like zombies driving.
I've been on the autobahn a number of times. You check twice when moving to the passing lane. Also, most cars flying that fast will signal their brights well before passing anyone. At least that was my experience.
@@bluemystic7501 flashing brights for overtaking is illegal. Usually people only do it if you don't move or they want to get your attention it's the same as honking.
@@philc6327 It's illegal in Germany??
My grandmother drives a 2015 Honda CR-V. It has insanely great brakes. When she first bought it, I was riding with her and she pushed the brake pedal down as far as she had to in her 2003 Highlander to stop. The Highlander has a bit of a mushy brake pedal compared to the CR-V and the CR-V stopped on a dime literally taking the wind out of me with the seatbelt. Both cars still run great. The CR-V has 40k miles and the Highlander has 215k miles. I will forever trust Japanese cars with safety and reliability.
@snackler6102 Probably. It's my cousin's now and it's starting to rot out. He says he will be driving it into the ground and I don't doubt it.
You know, it not only about the brakes, tires plays a big role in breaking and handling.
@yahyoh91 True but not the case here
In my experience they’ve always been tin cans which break after 150k miles, except for Toyotas which are tin cans that keep going
@@xx-----------xx873that may have been a nissan or subaru then, i would trust my life with any honda or toyota.
This video is perfect example why we are thought in school to look at mirror 3 times.... if the vehicle is far away first time and much closer the second, you don't change lanes. Also extra caution is required on "no limit" zones where I've seen people fly past at 280+....
Most of these idiots don´t look into their mirrors even ONCE. They also don´t understand simple physics.
And I thought I was driving fast on Germany when I was driving 160km/h on autobahn :D
They are crazy to drive at those speeds in Germany. In Italy the limit for everyone is 130 km/h
@@heysiri_official Its not crazy that we drive fast, its crazy that people ignore basic rules under These circumstancew and just pull out. Stuff like that would also happen at 130. No difference. People just need to watch their fucking mirror and dont act like they are the only ones on the Autobahn
Sad is that most of the people commenting here complain on guy who was driving 200 on no limit autobahn instead of roasting fu**** idiot who just change the lane without looking on damn mirror. That’s 90% of German and Dutch drivers - fu****** ignorants risking their own and others lives.
This is no ordinary motorway, THIS IS THE AUTOBAHN
@@TH-camrChannelNL Thank god that only a small fraction of the people going 200+ are idiots, otherwise there would be a lot more crashes than there currently are😬
It's legal to drive 200 so so guess that counts as normal
@@TH-camrChannelNLyou mean idiots that change line with 90km/h without checking their mirrors?
Although it's not legal to change lane when you're being overtaken (at least in France), it's also a good thing to watch for those situations. 2 close truckers, cars getting closer to a truck, etc...
*ZIS IZ ZE AUTOBAHN (HARD TECHNOBEATS)
When you see a car tailgating a truck chances are pretty high that it's going to change lanes any second. Your life is literally in their hands.
True, it's never recommended to drive behind trucks, because you can't see anything in front. Mostly everyone want's to get past as soon as possible.
@@after_midnight9592 they can and they have to wait until the left lane is free. Driving behind a truck is not a hazardous situation at all (at least let me say that for Germany). It doesn't matter what they want
Meanwhile im being tailgated by trucks while staying on the speed limitb😢
@@DxCBuG slightly disagree with the idea of waiting “until the lane is free”. If there is sufficient traffic that could mean waiting for a long time. Ideally, you would want for the other drivers to not having to brake, but sometimes you do need to force others to slow down somewhat to be able to switch lanes. The important thing is to ensure that they have plenty of time to brake and to keep monitoring them to make sure they actually have seen you.
@@aphextwin5712 if there is a lot of traffic it's a different situation. If there's not... They can wait. If you have to force it, you're doing it wrong sorry
What a surprise, a golf driver...
Thank god no one was hurt. The golf did used the indicator. But off course should have never made an attempt at getting into the fast lane with you approaching at those speeds.
if that was a bmw. it would never use the indicator!
Ehm… Wtf? Indicator doesn’t mean precedence!
@@1990Thunderbolt i drive a bmw. And i always use indicators. Grow up
@@Gtehnic yeah sure….
@@123456987john Americans don’t understand the concept of a fast lane
Actually this model of Honda has one fo the best brakes system among modern hatchbacks. + Good reaction of the driver.
Hi CyBorekPL, you're absolutely right. This was a Civic sedan model year 2017. Stock brakes and all-season tires.
all modern cars have enough good brakes to exceed tire limits, its all about tires and how abs is set
As a motorcyclist I saw this coming from a mile away. Drive with some discipline
You watched a TH-cam video. He was actually in the situation.
You could tell, they did the wiggle before moving out.
That was a Honda civic stock brakes?? I'm insanely impressed
stock brakes on any modern car can lock the wheels
@@foojub6907 modularity of the hydraulics and abs programming makes a good difference still
Honda has excellent brakes and I can testify to that when I had to emergency break from 210km/h to 0 because of sheep on the road just after a hill top. I stopped with 20m distance margin ;) If it had been my Opel Astra there would be dead sheep all over ... (but then I would not drive that fast because of the bad breaks... never drive faster then what you know you can safely stop at)
All stock brakes are capable of doing that sort of braking if they are in decent condition and the car is at normal weight for its design. Not repeatedly, But Ebraking is the normal design requirement.
They learned from the CRX :D.
And that is why you lift when approaching denser traffic. Always drive while keeping in mind that people don’t see you and can act unpredictably.
Your Honda emergency braking system is very reliable actually.
@@Schreibtisch1 i found the same to be true test driving some new vehicles, of course everyone diving out trying to get hit while i'm driving someone elses car and these systems did not react once
No system will help you at that speed.
Most AEB systems have minimum and maximum engagement speed and I dont think 200kmh is anywhere close 😂
@@ReviewApaHariIni iya bang bener 😂
If you're going that much faster than the cars you're passing, you're the liability
That logic only works if there's a speed limit. Not in this case.
@@Luggi83legal != fine
I don't know how you reframed from using the horn after you composed yourself. Stupid people. Almost got ran over by an idiot not checking their blind spot the other week, the horn saved me haha.
I think his brain is worried about controlling the situation, if the video was longer, I'm sure he's laying on the horn 🤣
Brakes work better then horn
@@dnbeuf72 or you could use both.
Germans :)
Usually when people hear horn they tend to step on brake pedal automatically without thinking, in this case that would be a disaster
You got to be pretty confident to cruise around at 210 on 2 lanes with trucks milling about
it was only two lanes for a short time. There was an "Einfahrt". I personally wouldn't drive that fast anyway, but it's not really THAT unsafe, considering what other people do on our Autobahn-
tbh it should be safe enough to go fast considering its the autobahn. if someone is driving on it, they know the rules and they know full well that there isnt a speed limit. and if the driver did want to cut out, they should also have at least put on their turn signals too.
@@thetruth9803 im not sure if its just me but i cant see the golf indicate at all, even when slowing it down and zooming right in..
The fault is 100% on the Golf. No excuses. He was behind the truck so driving at maximum 90 km/h, even if the car approaching at high speed was doing 150 km/h, he would have merged in front of him, making him decelerate significantly. That Golf's driver is an idiot. And he s not used to drive on the Autobahn, as I can recognize his plate being a French one.
Usually there is a speed limit of 120 on sections that have merging lanes, especially if it's only a 2-lane Autobahn. Not sure why it's different in the video.
Insane stopping power from those brakes and kudos to this guys awareness.
Awereness is for things beside or behind you, you can't not notice a car right in fucking front of you
@@Lilian040210tell me you've never driven on any public road, without telling me
For my American brothers and sisters, 209kph is equal to about 34mph
No its just around 20
Well done for actually avoiding the crash and not sitting on your horn instead (and having the crash) like most people seem to do
He’s an asshole. He had plenty of time to see the situation and adjust. Just another rude punk with a fast car.
Well at that speed it would be the last honking he ever gave
I had this happen to me once on the autobahn. There was bad traffic due to road work so I started to slow down since I still had allot of space. Then suddenly a truck went into the left lane and I had to stand on the brakes and miss hitting it by only 30cm (about 1foot).
I had been going 200km/h and about 180 when I needed to start braking hard.
I have never been more relieved in my life
Happened to me multiple times during a single day here in Slovakia. The difference here isn´t as high (maximum is 130 for cars and 90 for trucks), there isn´t even much of a highway to talk about, but still - it was enough for me to start actively avoiding highways here. There are many nice, empty 1st class roads nobody uses, since the highway was built.
@@Fabio-ql5yf the traffic was good till the point where road works where ahead and I already started slowing down. There was no reason for the truck to just swerve to the left
@@Fabio-ql5yf when looking back at this video yes you van say breaking early would’ve been better. I’m my situation too but when driving at these speeds you can’t look at one car for more than a second since that’s to dangerous.
And when you slow down every time a car is in the right then there’s no purpose driving on the autobahn in the first place.
@@fredpuntdroad8701 You sound exactly like my dad. I like going fast and this is one of the only legal ways to do so.
And I don't do this every day and this was a one time expierence I had.
Also my life moto is: I am here for a good time not a boring long time.
@@Morpheus-pt3wq40 km/h difference is still a lot. I don't blame you one bit for not wanting to be on highways
I had a close experience last week in autobahn.
It was the first time i had to drive in free speed limit road ( im from France and our highway are limited 130kph max ).
I was at 170 in autobahn then a guy with something like Mercedes just merged into my way at 90 kph.
Losing from 170 from 90 was intense in no time.
Edit : no turn light for my case, so i was surprised
Literaly i feel like this happens to me way too much on the autobahn when i go do some shoping in germany (from france, elsass)
next time assume the other driver is a moron so you need to be able to predict too
whenever this happens to me i wish i had a turret on my car so i could light them up. shit pisses me off more than anything. people are so dumb
Finland has only 120 km/h...
Always consider, close to the border in European Countries driving is often worse than further inland as there is a lot of mobility across the border meaning a lot of drivers you encounter there are not used to the kinks and quirks of driving in that specific country.
They are not just brakes..it is a demonstration of engineering
Wow Honda’s braking system is quite good
Absolutely. Those are stock brakes on all season tires.
honestly i can't believe he made that, when he was just a few meters away from the other car - still driving 159 km/h and actually pulls it of??
Yes it was extremely close
That's why you always indicate well in advance of switching lanes to let everyone else know that you intend to switch lanes. Least if you fail to spot the other vehicle/misjudge the speed, then the driver of that vehicle has a few extra seconds to get out of the way/drive accordingly. It is bizarre that a large amount of motorists fail to do this and then go on to cause a very dangerous situation
They did. If you watch the video again, look at when that driver indicates a lane change compared to when the driver who took the video decides it's a good idea to hit the brakes. They're both somewhat at fault for this near miss imo
@@XavierVelez-xq2wc yeah, I went through a few times to check the turn signal. The video guy was wayyy behind golf, and golf used turn signals, so in normal circumstances that would have been a safe enough lane change (but of course I've only driven in places with at most a 70 speed limit). Guy really should have started braking when he saw the turn signal to let people in.
@@real_dddf no. you have the right of way on the left lane. and its unlimited. slower cars need to be on the right and if they want to overtake (the truck in this case) they need to make sure that there is absolutely nobody. and if someone is coming fast, you dont overtake. forcing people to brake because you overtake is extremly dangerous.
@@potzysk2 They put the indicator on as they were moving into the next lane, which you should not do.
@@com34234That is factually incorrect.
Anyone who changes to fast lane (especially on autobahn), without properly checking their mirrors shouldn't be allowed to drive.
That's why you should ALWAYS be alert when someone is driving behind a truck, because there's a good chance they're just going to drive into your lane going 100kph, even though they see you coming at 190kph.
Even though tailgaters have 70IQ and quite literally are too stupid to use mirrors correctly, probably don't even recognize themselves in a mirror, and definitely don't see you coming at 190kph...
This is why you should match your speed to be close to the surrounding traffic. It's not simply a matter of "too fast", it's too fast relative to the other traffic, where everyone's expecting the traffic around them to be moving at a similar speed. People that speed like this think they won't get into an accident because they're good drivers, but the reality is you can't expect other road users to notice you or react to you in time.
In Germany, there's a target speed recommendation of 130 km/h (80 mph). If you drive faster and an accident appears, you have a partial liability even your behaviour was fully correct.
Not necessarily. The court would decide on partial liability on a case by case basis.
And this kids is why, just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
Stepping fully on the brakes at 200+ is a special feeling. Everyone who drives that fast should have done it once (on an empty Autobahn) before a dangerous situation occurs.
I did it at 180 on italian higway for a similar moron. That was... exciting.
Hearing the tyres scream at 200 was indeed a frightening feeling. My heart was pounding for a good 5 minutes
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What you wrote is so real. Unfortunately I had to try it because of similar situation as in the video. Everything fine but still.
It was very special feeling when I hit full on the brakes with 220+
Crazy...
This is a very good advice. In general, people should practice emergency braking at different speeds, and learn to correct under and oversteer. It's a good thing to learn the limits of what your car can do and how you can react
Damn fine car. You slammed the brakes and it obeyed. 10/10.
Germany is full of this kind of drives that just change the lane and then slowly overtaking without consideration of traffic behind.
that is why they need to be out of the traffic. They don't deserve to drive
every country is full of those. look at videos of the american highway, thats pure insanity
See this why you always honk AFTER the incident instead of BEFORE
I guess unpopular opinion, but this wouldn't have happened if there was a speed limit of say 130kmh. Driving at these high speeds is super risky, bad for fuel consumption, wears out your car much faster and doesn't even save much time, as you almost never can maintain these speeds for a long time.
If people want to drive fast they should go on a race track and not endanger people with their driving.
After reading some of the other comments I want to add. Driving fast is not s privilege, so you can't expect someone to not make you brake at especially at high speeds. Imagine a car with low hp wants to overtake a semi truck, it can take them minutes if they only drive a few kmh more and still they are not assholes for not going fast on the left lane. Still what is seen on this video is risky driving from the person recorded and mistakes from the golf... Glad nothing happened
This is Bullshit, less than 0.03% of accident deaths are due to excessive speed. The German driving license is the strictest and most demanding in the world, you have to complete several months of training before you can take the test.
That happened to me recently, only that I was the idiot not seeing the incoming car. It was in the evening and the sun was in my back and then the truck driver on the right lane startet switching to the middle on where I was. I had to switch quite fast and I didn’t see the Mercedes coming on the left lane with high speed because the sun completely covered the Mercedes. Nothing happened luckily, but it was a big shock for everyone. I’m still feeling sorry that this happened
Bad driver who admits his fault publicly. Here is a tip,
Anytime I am driving, I always keep checking my mirrors all the time (both side mirrors and the rear view mirror). This helps me b3 aware of my sorroundings so in times of obscured view like you described, I will naturally slow down because I feel the disconnection from my sorroundings and I will naturally become cautious or changing lanes because humans will naturally slow down on something they are not certain about therefore, in a case like yours, you would have not merged blindly
@@BadThrusher I wouldn’t consider myself a bad driver. In almost 9 years of driving that was the first time something like this happened. Again, it was a dumb situation but it still shouldn’t have happened. The thing is, this won’t happen again. Human error doesn’t make someone bad at something.
@@CptUhudiniWell, thankfully this situation never happened to myself, but I usually check my side mirrors (no middle mirror because van with middle wall) to be able to react to police/ambulance rather quickly. Sometimes I even had to go 20 km/h over the speed limit (on certain parts, where there is a posted speed limit) just to find room to merge right, so that I don't hold them up. One ambulance even thanked me for that.
Also, when I have the sun in my mirrors blinding me, I always slow down somewhat when approaching trucks to give myself more time to check for faster cars in the left lane before passing.
I would say that in Germany on some days it is much safer to drive 150-170 km/h than 100-120 km/h.
170 km/h is often the flow of traffic on the left, 150 km/h in the middle and 80-100 km/h on the right.
If you're traveling at 110km/h on the right, you have to be extremely careful at all times if you just want to overtake a truck. You either constantly slow people down or wait forever until you can overtake without slowing down others.
Your “mistake” would not have happened in this form at 150 km/h. Experience has shown that usually a truck doesn't drive in front of you - the Mercedes wouldn't have had to brake so hard or - the best option - you would have accelerated 300 meters beforehand - and pulled over to the far left at 180 km/h.
Some people think this is a specifically German problem.
My experience is that things run extremely smoothly and safely here, even without a speed limit, and most people are safe drivers.
In France or Switzerland, despite the limit, you have at least the same problems and more ruthlessness. Things are really bad in Italy.
@@olliGPL150 is never safer than 130.
Ekin=0.5mv^2
The higher the speed the bigger the mess
Now imagine if he was going 250 kph, which is the limited top speed of a lot of cars in Europe 😲
That is a deathwish xD, even though it technically not illegal
well then if he crashed into him, it would have been his fault
@@ylzerb6188 bro what nah if you cut infront of someone it's your fault. You're 100% allowed to go 300 on the autobahn if you want, that's what it's for, if you hit someone that's been in the left lane the whole time it's your fault, but not if they just changed lanes into you
@@aribeauchamp899 yeah i know i live there, but you also need to be driving responsibly. If youre going 130 you might not even see someone going 300 because they just appear too fast ;) fast going driver should adjust their speed if he sees slow traffic
@@aribeauchamp899 No. Eventhough you are generally allowed to drive as fast as you want, going significantly faster than the "suggested speed" of 130km/h can result in a partial blame. Basically, it is "legal but on your own risk". So the fact that he was going 200km/h, and therefore had a lot less time to react than if he was going 130km/h and the Golf pulling out with 110km/h, might result in a partial blame.
This was almost a certified "i drive" moment for the other people driving and watching him almost crash.
Imagine he was going 300km/h in an Audi RS6 avant 💀💀
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That golf would've never driven again, possibly driver included.
Most probably couldn't@@shinobuoshino5066
As an owner of a sport+ 1.5 vtec i know how good the brakes are, they are absolutely amazing probably just as well! I have driven for 4 years on the autobahns and the one thing I always always checked when pulling out was for high speed motors! Very lucky escape.
This is my #1 fear when on the Autobahn. I keep a hawk's eye out for blinkers and always show down around obscure turns because I had a close call similar to this
If this is your fear: slow down a little.
Modern cars have sensors which will warn you...
No Honking, No HighBeam, No Swearing, No Middle Fingers , No Hand Gestures.
Peacefully focusing on the rood while slamming on the brakes, that what probably saved him.
Learn a thing or two from this video ( to every other nation)
Driving that much faster than the other traffic is always going to be super risky.
yes as I said and some manage to fly with 300km/h such a situation is crazy
yep that's why on the autobahn i never go full out on a 2 lane. the problem is trucks in the right lane driving 90/100 and cars overtake them at 110/120
Great brakes on this Civic!
Driving should always be done with a defensive mindset because you HAVE to assume that the other drivers are idiots (they ignore road rules, don't look when merging, use their phone, etc). The principle of who's right/who's to blame doesn't matter if you crash. At the end of the day, you'll still (almost certainly) be paralysed/dead. Is knowing that you had the moral high ground still worth it then? At a 200km/h speed you have a braking distance of ~25 feet given a normal reaction time. This makes you an idiot because that doesn't offer you enough time to react to other idiots. Slow and steady wins the race. Nowhere is worth the risks of driving at that speed. Doesn't matter if this speed is legal or if many other drivers do the same. None of that matters the moment you hit some willfully ignorant idiot that pulls out without looking and you spend the rest of your life eating dinner through straws.
so many crashes could be avoided if people were this smart to actually do something instead of just honking
Ah yes, solid 28l / 100km, or 8.4 mpg. Crazy how drag becomes the main factor in fuel economy at these speeds
this is a big reason electric cars also lose huge economy the faster they go, the main thing that makes them lose power is just the drag so even at just 120 km/h you're getting way less fuel (electricity?) economy than if you were driving at say 90 km/h
its accelerating that eats up fuel once you're at cruising speed (like 200km/h) its not that much
when i just got my license ive driven my fathers car (V10 5l TDI) for thousands of km on the autobahn to take him to meetings and i drove 200km/h+ whenever possible
on those trips it used like 9-11l/100km not bad for a 20~ year old car
I like how eco mode was on. 🍃
@@TheRolemodel1337 That's a diesel car which was made to drive at high speed. Now put a 1.5 liter gas engine to go 200 km/h and you will see it's burning way more than 10 liters per 100km as it's struggling to even keep up with that speed.
@@TheRolemodel1337 200km/h is not cruising speed, cars are efficient at 100 to 120km/h, even at 130km/h you get a significant efficiency loss on most cars.
For those wondering that live in the country with a flag on the moon, he was doing about 129 mph, the other driver 90 mph.
The other driver wasn't going on 90mph more like 70 mph maybe 75mph
@@sk-sm9sh Well, if you look at the speed the driver was doing when the space between them no longer changed, it was 90 mph
@@IAmTheGlovenor Maybe at the end, sure, but before he couldn't be doing 90 mph. That truck can't go more than 80 kmh.
That happens when you drive 200km./h At least he learned his lesson.
I hope when you drive 120 km/h on the left lane that some one changes lane last second going 40 km/h. Then I will say the same “That happens when you drive 120km/h”
@@24hhhhours Driving 200 km/h on a busy two-line autobahn is a big no, no he should have slowed down to 150 km/h when he saw the traffic.
On German Autobahns you get every time a surprise.
This person didn’t even check his mirrors guaranteed.
No he did. But the driver is 500m far away 2 second before ... That's why the speed is the first reason of car crash.
@@photographemodeparis you’re actually supposed to look in your mirror for at least a second, not take a screenshot.
But I agree speed is part of the cause.
I just guarantee you this person did not look.
Watching your mirror for a split second is not looking.
@@photographemodeparis if they got their drivers license in germany they should know that cars in the left lane could be moving at much higher speeds than they do... its just careless drving from the driver of the vw
You know I went through this alot, and also on speeds not as high as 210kmh, but like 150/160. Most of the time it's elderly people not able to drive properly anymore. And I think it's sad for those people, but take the train or bus. Even in the city, they're massively dangerous. They wouldnt see a small child, probably not even notice running over one. In my opinion old people are more dangerous than 20 year olds.
If everyone drove like elderly people, the roads would be a safe place. If everyone drove like a youngster, the roads would be a safe place. If everyone drove like a woman, the roads would be a safe place. But there are different kinds of people and people drive differently. What you find a proper driving, somebody else calls an unpredictable driving behaviour.
For example in this video, the Golf driver did not expect somebody behind him to go 200+ km/h, because he couldn't imagine anybody could drive so dangerously fast.
@@pokineusz3501 The Golf driver is still the one driving unsafely. When driving, you should expect the worst, and especially on the Autobahn you should expect people driving fast. 200 km/h is completely legal there, so you should expect someone driving that fast any time.
@@pokineusz3501 if everyone drove like elderly people, which means very slow ability to react, a lot of deaths would be the result. I'm absolutely not talking about 60+, nor am I trying to say that every old person drives like that. I'm saying that it occured to me way too often, in town or out, that an old person that is actually not able to drive safely anymore, still is out on the road. Ive seen too many occasions where very old people dont see and hear whats coming and almost cause a crash.
Although yes, youngsters can be dangerous, but it's a percentage of young people that actually drives recklessly, not everyone.
@@pokineusz3501 dude that is Germany u expect ppl to drive even faster than that 200 kph is moms speed
@@obamart I'm not saying how it should be, I'm saying how it is (and it won''t change)
It's astounding that he didn't even touch ....braking from that speed
the other car was moving away at 120km/h, so we must not draw a wrong conclusion, it is actually impossible to avoid colliding from a 200km/h speed, except this special case.
@@Fabio-ql5yf it is because when something enter your lane suddenly from left or right, in front of your eyes, it is already within approximately ~100m, and that is within the "reaction & braking distance limit" for a 112km/h vehicle. If at 200km/h then it won't help, it will be worse. However in this video the other vehicle is moving away at 120km/h, so effectively the relative speed between vehicle is only 200km/h - 120km/h = 80km/h.
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Even on limited speed sections, always watch closely in your left mirror. Anticipate everything. A vehicle far away could get closer very quickly if it's fast enough.
i'm fast enough, i'm fast af boiii
@@penclaw Golf VII TDI : "so you have chosen... death."
This civic driver almost learned a deadly lesson: physics does not care about right-of-way
It's really hard to tell someone's speed in the rear view. Autobahn is madness.
Not in this situation it isn’t! Golf driver was a woman and she was on her phone (according to OP), in this situation it was just a really bad driver..
@@suspendedtwice4sayingrasis261 Did you just argue that it must have been her fault because she's woman lol? Or why did you bring it up
@@sayven Yep, from my experience, the worst drivers you'll ever meet are going to be almost always women. I thought it's common knowledge amongst experienced drivers.
@@suspendedtwice4sayingrasis261 Personal experience is a tricky thing. There's a number of cognitive biases, like Confirmation, Negativity and Recency bias, that could distort our memory of how many bad drivers are women. That's why I try as much as I can to ignore these impressions, unless I can find empirical evidence that supports my view.
@@sayven women have literally 15% smaller brains just stop man
This is exactly why we need the 130km/h limit. There will always be people who make mistakes like this.. these huge speed differences are way too dangerous
Wird sich politisch nie durchsetzen. Dafür bräuchten SPD und Grüne ne Mehrheit was sie nicht haben und in der Zukunft wohl weit nicht erreichen werden.
Dutch drivers are a real problem in Germany.
They drive veeeery slowly in NL and then try to change lanes at 100km/h using the left lane. I had two close shaves recently and in both cases the drivers were Dutch.
As a Dutch person, true. I just came from vacation in Kroatia and having to cross the entirety of Germany we passed hundreds of Dutch people going slow while we were only going like 140km/h
That's a german license plate though...
Right at the end, I think I hear a horn. If that Golf driver really was the one honking, I have officially lost all remaining hope and faith in humanity.
Hi Matze, Golf driver wasn't honking. She apologized with a hand gesture after that.
@@Schreibtisch1 Unrelated but I'm interested, which Hand gesture specifically? :D
@@teppopierune5520 Showed me her palm of the hand, it was a definite apology.
@@Schreibtisch1 Ah okei, that's what I thought. I did the same when I accidentally cut someone off when turning left 😅 I had just gotten my license, luckily there was no danger
You know it‘s bad when you have me here pressing the imaginary brakes
I mean this was obviously the Golf's fault, but I do hope the camera learned a lesson here as well: Always expect other drivers mistakes. Especially here where there are cars following a truck, just slow down when approaching these situations, if nothing happens you lost like 10s of going 200+ and you can just speed up again. IF an accident happens here you'd be lucky to even be able to think about who is at fault. Going 200+ is perfectly fine, but always consider the situation and adjust your speed to it.
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In the right lane I think you should always do a double check of the left lane. The first check to make sure that there is nobody there, and the second check to confirm the speed of anyone who was there in the first check
@HelloWorld-zg3gs it is actually not even a "you should" but you must bcs any car in the left lane ofc has right of way over any car from right lane that wants to switch lanes so simply indicating to switch lanes by turn signal and then switching lanes immediately is illegal. That's like turn signal at traffic lights and simply driving left crossing the others passage...illegal..
Even if you do all of these, if the car behind you is coming with 200 km/h, you literally don't see it BEHIND you because it's way too fast to notice that the car is closer to you than you think. This is why you should not speed, speeding makes you harder to be noticed by others.
@@vbw4501 yeah but there is no speed limit on the autobahn so there’s no such thing as speeding. I would expect a driver on that road to have a different level of skill. Also that driver got over in the left lane only 100-200 feet in front of the other guy.
And if you spotted someone in your mirror look around and find them before changing lanes.
You are supposed to use the left lane only to pass slower vehicles, is not a lane exclusively for faster vehicles you are not supposed to stay on them
Should have seen that coming the moment the box truck came into the equation. Easy to not even have to get that close to a problem.
exactly, people are completely confusing 2 things: skilled driving and safe driving.This is the kind of person who makes me wish for a speed limit, you need to use common sense if you want to drive that fast unless you want to slam the brakes every 30 seconds and die around the 20th time
It's amazing how you can avoid accidents if you brake instead of honk
I didn't realize pressing the brakes in Germany required reaching down with your hands. Interesting.
And that's why we have speed limits in more sensible countries.
Being on a road where two vehicles can be traveling at speeds which are more than 100 km/h apart is just asking for trouble
That happens daily to me. After a while you get used to it and slow down earlier. And always have Plan B. If you can't anticipate situations like this, drive slowly!
This man gets it, just like Sebastian Vettel says, “200km/h speeds are better saved for the track”
@@VonkieTonkie That's not what Hias has said. If you don't want to drive fast on the Autobahn, then don't get in the way of people who do. Driving on the Autobahn is safer than driving rural or in cities, it's just that there are idiots who think that nobody should drive fast and want to lecture everyone.
The speed doesn't kill...; the difference of speed is the killer.
Motorway with 2 lanes is not motorway for me!!Every couple of minutes someone will be switching lanes or lorries overtaking each other!!Driving with 200 on this road is risk for everyone!!
I see so many of these videos and usually they aren’t really braking that hard. This might be the first video where I wasn’t sure whether or not the car would slow in time.
Especially the American videos always look like the car filming isn't breaking at all lol
Never blast by with such a speed difference to middle lane, always count on others making mistakes that you can still correct, rookie mistake and risky
There is no middle lane in this video, on the right lane is just an on-ramp.
@@Schreibtisch1 True just the upcoming traffic lane after all, with two lanes only it gets even more risky as the right lane vehicles mostly have low speed sitting behind trucks, always good to count in margin of error :)
@@LiveLifeLasting It's normal to drive at that speed past traffic in the right lane. If you want to come left you know that your going to cause an accident if you don't check properly. This is an abnormal driver.
@@iwonder1216 Of course he needs to check, that not the point at all, that’s a given. Generally, you have to still be able to react if the driver like here makes a mistake. Won’t help you if you were in the right but die because the other made the mistake ;) Greets from Germany
When I clicked on the video I was worried they put a speed cap in the car and it automatically slowed down at 200 km/h
I get mad at people here in Canada who move into the left lane going 110, can't imagine how frustrating this is lol
These folks going 110 in the left lane are usually those who tell others to obey the speed limit of 100. There not just so annoying, but their also super dangerous.