In Switzerland direct democracy is supported by everyone. From the left to the right. We have this system for over 100 years. Most of these votes were really helpful. This is a really one sided picture of switzerland. And why do foreign media always interview Roger Köppel? He is a maniac!
@JSavic direct democracy is unfortunately very slow but in the end also very stable. Most people in Switzerland are for a good relationship with the the EU. The far right is not Switzerland. About 30% voting for SVP but most of them are not racist or stupid. Most people in Switzerland are however conservative.
@JSavic swiss women had the right to vote in 1921, however in appenzell they did npt get the right to vote until 1991, i dont know eher u got your facts from. The reason that this took so long is because( at least so they say) it was not enough room for the women to vote. And if a swiss women marries a foreigner she does not have to give up her nationality, where do u get ur facts from??
@@xenomyr Because its not the answer to every problem. Its a good system we have, but like with anything it has its flaws. Still wouldn't want to live without it and still think its great.
Bahnstormer breaking news: due to economic constraints the flag of Switzerland will remove the vertical stripe on the flag saving millions. Now Switzerland is a minus
@@dindings yes, and after they remove the vertical line, they will also make the shape round - as a trafic sign for foreigners (but only those who don't steal money to hide them in swiss banks...those who do, will always be welcomed)
And Switzerland was correct. Their economy and currency is strong, they have trade with the rest of the EU. They maintain sovereignty and strong borders. Their rape and crime rates did not surge with refugee crisis that the EU has. They certainly did something right and are respected for it not demonized.
You are a bit wrong there on the sovereignty and strong borders part: We are a de facto member state of the EU, we just aren't represented in the EU parliament. Switzerland could join the EU tomorrow and almost nobody would notice that anything changed. Switzerland has to implement EU law, is in the Schengen Area (abolishes border control) and Switzerland is a member of EFTA (ensures free trade between EU and EFTA members). We have given up our sovereignty over our borders, trade policy with the EU and laws. Is this a bad thing? No, we prospered with the EU, the Switzerland of today wouldn't have been possible without a long-lasting, close relationship with the EU. Now we are in an akward spot, were we practically are an EU member, without actually being in the EU. In my opinion the best solutions would be the (former) "UK-style" EU-membership: being an EU member without the monetary-union. It wouldn't change much for us or Swiss businesses, but the Swiss people could finally have a say on EU law. We don't have much problems with immigrants because we have extensive welfare programms and an exeptionally well public education-system. Poor people are always a problem and immigrants are sadly mostly poor, so we try to integrate them into the workforce within at least one generation.
@david nichols I was being sarcastic. They should be worried. That's exactly what will happen. BTW, watch the Eurosong contest this week. Look who will win. Look at his race and from which country he's coming. Interesting, ha?
@@comradedyatlov2227 Lmao, love these Anglo ignorant racists, they love multinational multiethnic large-immigration (much larger than UK and U.S.) Switzerland lol
TheSpiritOfTheTimes Only fucking idiots love multiculturalism. Unless you’re talking about other native Europeans. Which works better because of our similarities.
@@More_Row Just so you know, the american culture and the european culture are almost as far apart from one another as the arab culture is from the american one.
@@trem876 I won't. I just feel that way. I find it ironic that some guy from India agreed with Steve Bannon about what we should do in Switzerland, especially when the advice is to isolate yourself from the world.
It's a confusing subject, but tyranny of the majority refers to political instances where the majority consistently votes for policy that benefits themselves without regard for the small guys. Populism is easily bred through these circumstances because it allows people to swiftly ostracize the small and weak, and creates highly emotional and often violent tendencies and stereotypes toward the minority. The whole idea of democracy was to make sure that every voice stays equal, and so putting up barriers to stop this type of tyranny is necessary, thus making the liberal components of many democracies a necessary part: check-and-balances.
_" a 'tyranny of the majority.' I take it the speaker's preference would be a tyranny of her minority?"_ Bravo, you now know what a logical fallacy is. Saying that something isn't true does not mean the opposite is.
and if you listen a few lines as she goes on to explain the way the tyranny happens is by the guy buying institutions and reducing the power and influence of these institutions and threfore the voice of the people... BUT.... the majority is the voice of the people. In a democracy the voice of the people is majoprity rules, otherwise why vote for something at all? Her stand is nonesensical. majority rules and hopefully the dont oppress minorities on the way...but whilst consideration for minorities are taken, minorities must fall inside the will of the majority on the whole. Otherwise for me it is a form of tyranny where the minority dictates what the majority wants.
Switzerland is the country with the highest standard of living in the whole of Europe if not in the world. It's the most economically successful country in Europe. The Swiss Franc is as strong as ever and a symbol of stability (like our Deutsch Mark used to be before we adopted the doomed Euro). Finally, Switzerland is the most democratic country in Europe. And guess what? They manage to do all that without being a member of the ever so fabulous EU. Naturally the BBC is fuming mad about this because it does not play well into their globalist pro-EU narrative and so they attempt to ridicule Switzerland with this little hit piece. It is shameful what public broadcasting has become (ours is just as bad if not worse) and funding should be cut or it should be abolished altogether.
No... we in Switzerland are part of the EU in everything but name. We have access to the single market (one of the main reason for our prosperity) and we allow the freedom of movement (for the time being: we are going to vote again about that soon). We will soon negociate a framework deal to ensure that our regulations are aligned with that of the EU. The swiss franc is actually still a bit too high and it has been a problem for a while (it was especially problematic during the 2008 crisis and the years that followed). Can't export when the price of your money makes everything way more expensive... Globalism and direct democracy (which in turn provided a great political stability) made Switzerland what it is. We are a trading nation, open borders are essential to our prosperity.
Lepetit Roquet ... That was the most delusional thing I’ve ever read. Holy shit. If you think open borders are essential to prosperity you deserve exactly what will happen to you, your family (specifically the women in your family) and your country, because somewhere along the line someone failed to explain the nature of humanity to you, I’m assuming your father. Sweet Jesus, just... 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Actually I think, that this documentary was not really pro liberals. Much time was about Trump and Bannon. Köppel, Blocher and Fischer - all from one - EU-Critics-Party could talk quite freely the longest time. The opposite side, the liberal Kleiner was just a small part of this video. I guess this is called the recency bias.
@@blazetooth1 You are afraid. It's a natural phenomenon, but once that tends to cloud one's judgment. Go talk with a muslim at least once. Then you might have a chance to actually understand "the nature of humanity". ( th-cam.com/video/SSH5EY-W5oM/w-d-xo.html ) And don't worry, even if I had any illusion about the worst humanity is capable of, Trump would had given me a world class education ("grab women by the pussy", "kill their families", or on waterboarding: "I would approve it immediately, but I would also make it much worse [...] I would do much worse", not even counting the blatant constant lying). But I've also had the occasion to talk with US citizen and I know that the majority of them are also good people and don't share such horrific views or such a terrible behavior.
It does Have a high standard of living ( I used to live in Geneva ) But frankly despite a lot of referendums and a supposed high degree of local control , your average citizen is fairly powerless , and unlike other European countries you will live and die without being able to eject the confederal government
We Germans have always admired the Swiss, eventhough there are many jokes. I guess that stems from admiration. Now, more than ever, Switzerland shows how democracy works. Grüzi aus Deutschland
Danke dir vielmals für den netten Kommentar :) Witze gehören doch dazu ;) Jeder darf über jeden Witze machen, so ist es am besten :) Ich hoffe ihr Deutschen werdet euer Land befreien von all dem Bösen das euch terrorisiert und lähmt.
@@noodlyappendage6729 As much as I dislike Blocher and his entourage I think it is impertinent to compare him to Trump. I understand Blochers concerns towards the refugee crisis but I do not condone the way in which he expresses them much like with Trump, yet the crucial difference between those two and the political landscape in the States and in Switzerland.... our right wing politicians are still vivid democrats who believe in every citizens right to vote and our system not being backwards. The electoral college renders these "democratic" US elections a farce. How can someone win when loosing the popular vote? Democracy means to partake in the decisions that form your nations fate. Yet all nations except Switzerland push legislative decisions through their parliament without consulting their people. Here I get to veto if someone wants to cut down a tree, as long as I mobilize enough people who share my opinion. And then we vote about it and that' democracy. If you share this believe, you've met the first step of being Swiss. And although I disagree with our right wing politicians more often than not, I'd rather have them freely state their opinions than someone shutting them up.
@@lucaosswald1752 the difference being that Switzerland is essentially a unitary state, while the US is a union of 50 sovereign states. The Presidency is not a popularity contest, its about building a broad coalition that appeals to people across the entirety of America, instead of the centralized dense locales.
@@jebthegodemperor7301 Switzerland also has pretty sovereign districts states, and every district usually just does their own stuff (pretty annoying especially right now during the pandemic), but it is much smaller than the US, which makes it a lot easier.
Because she wants to move Switzerland to "normalcy": aka join the other liberal, left-wing Western European anti-nation unionists , thus basically picking up all the pieces of the apple blown off Tell"s son and glue it back together again. That would be a great catastrophe, as it would end what the country has always been: neutral, independent and unique.
As an American living in Switzerland, why the critique about one of the best things - a direct democracy? Other systems have trouble guarding against corruption. The US can't even abolish lobbying bribery that most citizens want. It keeps politicians in line. It also forces people to take apart a topic and educate themselves, which they tend to do. The politicians constantly have the people as a guard rail. Do they make mistakes? Yes. But at least they have the decision.
"The Swiss system of government by referendum is unique in the democratic world." That's because Switzerland has the only democratic government in the world.
LOL no, China is actually a more democratic country. Sweden is still held back by capitalism, where it only benefits the elites and not the working class people
If populism according to BBC is: low tax, small government, individual freedoms incl. economic, rule of national law above other laws, cultural cohesion, general peace and order, political independence, freedom of speech without political correctness, no third world mass immigration ....then I AM IN!!!
kt cool lol there's a difference between social consequences and consequences given by the government, we dont want people in prison for speech, yes we know its an extreme idea but sorry its what I believe in. And yes, there's also nothing wrong with ethnostates
@@ktcool100 @kt cool freedom of speech means that unpopular ideas get to be spoken out loud, so that the People, Not the state, have the freedom to, e.g. convince the racist or the bigot of the wrongs of their ways. Imagine these people were forbidden to utter their opinions...no-one would be able to hear them and thus have no opportunity to argue against them. #FreeSpeech
What a terrible country it must be where normal civilians are allowed to have a say in how its run; you are quite right to point this out BBC, its horrible!!
The problem is not nationalism. Of course I agree with you that you can't have a country without nationalism. But I add this : In Europe you can't have nationalism without war. Historically, Europeans were the most aggressive humans on Earth. Europe has always been in war. Do the research youserlf , you will come to the same conclusion.
There will come a time in the near future where it's not about whether you're left-wing or right-wing, but whether you're a nationalist or a globalist. We often hear about how awful nationalism is. Was it awful when former colonies wanted independence and self-determination from European powers? No. Was it awful when European powers wanted freedom from Papal rule? No. Is it awful that both Palestinians and the Tibetans want a nation of their own? No. Is it awful when Europeans want to be free from globalist rule? No. Is it awful that some Scottish nationalists want independence? No. There is nothing wrong with a group of people wishing to be a majority in their own homeland and maintain their culture, traditions, customs self-determination and secure a future for the next generation. Many of the conflicts in history have been due to different groups of people wishing to establish a homeland of their own against empires with global ambitions. This globalist multicultural agenda (in mostly white countries) is doomed to fail. We are often told diversity is our strength rather than unity? Multiculturalism has turned us into a low trust society where we're constantly walking on egg shells. Multiculturalism means that different groups of people are going to compete for dominance. It will also mean that the native majority will start to feel disenfranchised. Why should we accept FGM, child marriage, polygamy and other norms from culture incompatible to our own? How does this make us stronger? We can live in a global world where people simply cooperate and trade without having open borders. In Japan, which is more or less an homogeneous society, crime is virtually none existent and you often see people wearing masks when outdoors. They wear masks when they have a cold to avoid other people catching the virus. This is a perfect example of a high trust society. Japan is hugely successful and is looking at ways to combat their low birth rate without having to import people into their country. Not to mention the fact that Tokyo is one of the world most successful global cities. Look at the recent comments made by the Dalai Lama when he said that Europe belongs to the Europeans. That's upset a lot of lefties and unfortunately they can't call him a Nazi for making that comment. Especially when he's been a hero to so many such as the likes of champagne socialists such as Russell Brand. As for liberalism, it is doomed to fail also. Liberalism brings decadence, decadence weakens societies, and weak societies get take over by stronger groups of unified people. The Persians, Greeks and Romans became decadent in the end.
To Err is Huma no, i disagree with the original poster's ideas of future demographical and intersectional lines of political and ideological dichotomy. I think its much more complicated that he makes out.
To Err is Huma for one multiculturalism isn't going anywhere like it or not as mass movement of peoples has already taken place. technology and globalisation are simply not and cannot be controlled by governments alone and nationalism isn't automatically the default opposed counterpart to multiculturalism in the present let alone in the future. technology is far too disruptive to make any concrete assumptions on this matter. also nationalism takes many forms good and bad, though most often bad due to, as i said earlier, all too often lack of nuance in its it overly simplistic answers to complex issues of economic relations, identity and migration and how such thing relate and intersect with eachother. these are but a few things and my wrist aches from typing
"Protecting their own" would seem to mean resentful scaremongering of ethnic groups and glorifying fictional myths to you. There's something VERY wrong with that.
Prairie Dog How is that in any way "Like Japan"? They're not resentfully scaremongering different ethnic groups, and they're certainly not glorifying any fictional myths. If you want to use Japan as the best example of what you think is best for society, then you need to also understand how their society actually functions. I could EASILY pick apart what's wrong with Japanese society today, and also point out many things in their culture which would completely contradict your pathetic fantasy of how an all-white ethnostate would actually function. Here's a clue for ya, it wouldn't work out very well after 50+ years.
Jetpack Rorschach Jesus Christ man - they (Japan) are a mono-culture (98.5%), they do not accept outsiders easily, and they reject multiculturalism. BTW, I'm not white, so I'm not for any kind of white ethno state, you're going way off saying I am supporting a white ethno state when I have not even mentioned skin colour, just assuming I must be some kind of white nationalist because I don't have a problem with a 'white' culture wanting to preserve it's heritage and history. Try not to break your keyboard as you respond.
That's the truth though, 100% democracy is very dangerous. If the majority rule then imagine the situation if the majority were to say, commit gennoacide on the minority? That's why it's important to have a constitution put in place which guards against any such actions. Democracy is not ideal in that sense, since the minority don't have a say., but with a good constitution in place their rights will be protected.
"Tyranny of the majority" was a phrase coined by John Major to describe the Brexit referendum result (he is a remainer). He also described the Social Chapter of the Maastricht Treaty that guarded the rights of workers across Europe as "immoral", and he made sure that Britain was the only nation within the E.U not to benefit from this clause. Btw, John Major was the protege of Margaret Thatcher, who came up with that other marvellous example of Orwellian doublespeak; "There is no such thing as society". (...So much for society and democracy then!) As this is a B.B.C production I think the young woman in question would have been fed that line by the B.B.C interviewer.
This service is incredibly inaccurate about Switzerland. The number of mistakes made in the analysis is appalling. The journalist clearly knows nothing of the Swiss political system.
holly crap is that for real? you gave my patriotic shivers ^^ let's hope we get it right next month the SBI (Selbstbestimmungsinitiative) goes up for vote ... if accepted it will stop all back-door deals that changed swiss law on the quiet to "conform to european norms" and make the swiss constitution the highest autority in switzerland ... as it should be .. wish us luck
There is no danger on playgrounds in Switzerland. I live in a town with many foreigners from all over the planet. We are living happily together. No loss. Just gains.
The svp is switzerlands biggest party, however in most referendums it ends up being the svp vs everyone else which leads to them not being nearly as dangerous as other populist movements around the world right now.
She said she doesn't feel its safe for her daughter to leave her house anymore but the crime rate in Switzerland has been consistently falling, sound brainwashed to me.
It depends on how these statistics are counted. Besides, she was speaking out of her own subjective personal experience which might be different to what is generally happening. Imagine my shock...
@@martinledermann1862 I understand it's going to be skewed by her subjective experience, but what I'm interested in is the seeming mismatch between what the objective facts say and what she perceives
What a concept--Swiss laws over international laws in Switzerland! Amazing that anyone thinks it should be any other way!!! I hope they protect their country by preserving their laws. In my country, and in the state I live in (California), some states are actually ignoring our country's laws, and we are seeing huge problems. Good on Switzerland! We could use Direct Democracy in California. Our "elected" officials are passing INSANE laws all the time, without any input from Californians.
Sounds simple and convincing, doesn't it? But maybe you should consider the following: 1. We entered all of our international agreements willingly and by popular vote. So there is no international law overturning the will of the swiss people. We actually voted for it! 2. With a few exceptions (for example the human rights convention) most international laws only apply to international interactions (mostly our trade deals). So we as citizens aren't really affected by international law if we don't do business with other countries. 3. Nobody would ever sign another treaty with us if we just end up ignoring it, because we have a different law in Switzerland. For a country with no natural ressources except water and an economy dependent on exports (63% of gdp), this initiative wasn't just stupid, it was dangerous.
Just for you to know, Iam a swiss citizen and at 4:37 this woman was talking shit, you can look in all of switzerlands statistics, that she's talking nonsens. And this man's party is not just conservative, but it's the extremist right-wing party of switzerland. Ps. If you listen to Blocher in a debate, you'll notice how stutip he actually is. He won't tell you any arguments but he tells you a boring story. pps. Nice to see something about switzerland here :^)
@@zososierp I doubt Free Palestine would look democratic. Rather it would end up like Pakistan where islamist mob populism has practically taken over any democratic institutions.
I am Swiss and I can assure you that the SVP (the party you are talking about) does not represent the entire population of Switzerland. In the big cities and among the youth, they are seen as ridiculous.
I am Swiss since 1995 and by ancestry, since back in the 1600's, they left the country in 1650 - Anabaptists forced out by soldiers from Bern. The Swiss have the right to change any law, even the constitution, by popular vote. This "right" is not used often but the politicians know that if they pass a law without popular support it may be challenged and changed. Therefore, they keep in check their political ambitions to keep in line with what "the people" decide. Switzerland has very low external debt (much higher than I would like), universal healthcare that is expensive but it works, and sustainable development where farming land is maintained and prospers. Switzerland is a near perfect example of true democracy - other countries should "take down" their respective populations where 1. they will no longer pose a threat to their neighbors and 2. the people remain in control. Switzerland went through many wars and conflicts to establish cultural and linguistic boundaries within the country. Our experience can be shared with others in this difficult world of ours.
Ill explain it to you: In Switzerland we can vote on anything thus means Tyranny of the majority is abuse of democracy. If the only norm is majority will, then a majority can enslave a minority. Thus, democracy according to liberals need to be counterbalanced by protection of individual and minority rights. And these rights are currently secured by the Human Rights etc. but with the upcoming initiative there will be a vote against this security against the tyranny....next time research your stuff
@@galaxystar8232 Sure but first...... "In Switzerland WE" who is we? Do you live there? Second if the minority has "Human Rights ETC...." please cite which "human rights" exactly stop a democratic majority from inacting their political will. I will wait patiently for you to list something that even America doesn't have. BTW vetos only exist if a majority is not large enough to be veto proof. Well.... I'll be waiting for your "research"😚
@@johoward5816 Yes i live in Switzerland im born here and i went to School here but im a foreigner in 4th Generation.... Ill explain you the Swiss system.. soo Swiss political chamber system is equal to the american senate and house but our president is formed of 7 people who all have to be diffrent parties and there has to be a representation of left to right and these 7 people all have to agree if they want to do a contract for example or present a new law if they dont all agree the thing they wanted to do is not happening. So to the Swiss citizen.. as a Swiss citizen i vote on every new law that gets presented and every contract or law change etc. that means that no politcian can introduce a law if its not been voted on by the people. What we can also vote on is existing laws and contracts. Or as a Citizen start a vote on a law withoug being politician in the chambers . In the Swiss Constitution Human Rights are secured and nearly the same as Americas and Europes but.. Swiss Citizen can also vote on these Rights they can vote on everything . At the moment doe there are contracts and the emrk which is the european court for human laws is put above swiss right which means if there would be a law which for example be against he minorities or for example the deportation law that got voted on and got a yes. Cant be institued like it is written in the Intiative text because the EMRK says its going against human rights. So Swiss Citizen are soon voting on putting Swiss Right above foreign right which will also trigger the need for new agreements with the eu and if they vote yes they majority has the ability to vote against a minority " the tyranny of the majority" because if 51 percent vote yes the law is institutued sorry fort this long and confusing text but the swiss politcal system is complicated and i cant really explain it well in english
I am from Poland and I support Swiss Nationalists. EU have done some good but at the same time far more bad.I have been to Switzerland twice this year. Beautiful land and beautiful people.
PascalFL I’m Swiss and we all know that in Poland, nationalist are raising. We don’t need the left or nationalists in Switzerland, we are doing great because there isn’t one party who’s ruling the country. We have maybe 6/7 major parties (UDC, PLR, PDC, Verts libéraux etc...)
Switzerland is exactly a good country because there are a lot of parties and views and everyone has to say something so there is always equality between left and right
With this short movie, the BBC gave an increasingly unpopular Swiss political party the platform to present themselves. This group of people clearly doesn't represent the country. Just one week ago, the initiave "‘Swiss law, not foreign judges" brought forward by this political party (which is the one discussed by this charming farme's family) was rejected by the Swiss population by almost 68%. I guess the BBC got their answer: Switzerland is not the cradle of populism.
A Swiss here trying to moderate: The problem, judging form some of the comments, is that the issue is looked at from an American point of view: in CH we have many parties, not just two, in other words we always have many options and we decide in each individual vote, which occurs every 3 months on a national basis and even more regularly on a regional or even neighborhood (Gemeinden maybe county is a good translation) basis, in whom we put our trust. We are not red, black, green or yellow (which are just some of the party colors, we are able to vote in). The verity of choices leads to Parlaments which are almost never held by one single majority but a mix of politicians with different values, who need to compromise to accomplish anything. And her-in lys the success story: we are always compromising with one an other. We don’t hate each other for our believes but try to work differences out and find common ground, listen and at the end we take a vote..
This video while very well made with tax dollars, as a part of their populism in Europe series, begs the question. Is the BBC being fair and balanced and/ or are they expressing a bias 🤔?
The BBC is bias by ommission you cant know what you are not told the globalists own the MSM The real Traitor is The BBC who are supposed to be owned by us the people through our compulsary licence fee each year only to be fed a daily diet of globalist propaganda
@@homosexualpanic Below this video, there is a message it says "BBC is a British broadcast service" though you say it's "paid" for by "licence fee" and not a tax, that technicality seems not important to people. Your implication is that the BBC, pays it's costs the same way Fox News does, not many people would agree with you. Lastly Fox News is right wing bias while BBC is neo liberal NATO bias in my subjective opinion
Populists love direct democracy is such a weird way of putting it. everybody should and everybody is loving direct democracy. I don't get what you get from putting such a negativ connotation next to direct democracy.
Fully agree with you. On top of this this assertion is wrong unless we refer to the late 19th century populist party which indeed bolstered direct democracy. Modern days “populists” do not especially love direct democracy: “Steve Bannon loves using direct democracy as a campaign argument” would be more valid. What democratic reforms did Trump pushed in the US? To my knowledge absolutely nothing.
"Populism" is not only not a bug of democracy. Not even a feature. It is a KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATOR of democracy. A non-"populist" democracy is a broken democracy.
You know what's great? A country who doesn't have one leading person and who listens to the citizens. It's not just the bank all alone which helps Switzerland as a country.. it's the system we have build up within years. There's nothing wrong being proud of your country and keeping your culture. Solve your problems in your own country and leave other countries alone.
Seriously I can't believe there are still people who are defending the European Union. I can understand that the origins of EU were noble and useful, but right now its a corrupted bureaucratic nightmare.
if anyone's interested: the initiative that they talked about (Selbstbestimmungsinitiative) did not get accepted. more than 66% of the voting people voted no. (that's a lot)
i am swiss🇨🇭 so -> we just want to be on our own. we also respect other nations will . whats the problem? perhaps the world would be better if everyone chills.... like we😁
Anyone noticed that the Swiss just voted down with a large majority that initiative to “take back control of our laws”. They understood that international law is not a threat to sovereignty for a small nation but rather the opposite. Perhaps a third of the Swiss support conservative populists and the system of requiring a majority of cantons in every vote as well as the overrepresentation of tiny rural (and thus conservative) cantons favour them, yet they have lost the vast majority of popular votes in the last years.
@@johngalt5166 Switzerland is a utopic land in most regards, and it's great that you intend to learn the language (assuming you mean Schweizerdeutsch), but don't expect too much conversation.
@@AABB-zb6dv I think Norway, especially the suburbs and the countryside are so safe that people go to bed at night without locking their doors. I don't think the center of big cities such as Oslo is at that high level of safety that the residents would feel safe enough not to lock their doors when they go to bed at night.
And now the people in Switzerland voted against the initiative „Selbstbestimmung“ and for the international agreements. 66% voted against this populistic bullshit. So where is the video about that?
Hi there, you're right we did remove the earlier report. This is because there was an issue with the audio, it was only coming out of one earphone and not both. This version is correct. Thanks, the Newsnight team
unlike the rest of the world we swiss can sit together (from liberal to conservatives), discuss, argue and fight, but we always find a solution wich is best for our country. so, please open your mind and know your real enemies. it’s not your countrymen that have a different oppinion than you do.
Oh lol they took the svp. One of the most unliked party in Switzerland among young and open minded people. come on... why is the english of all people so bad?
Check out the work of Patrick Deneen from Notre Damn University on his thoughts on Western culture and why liberalism is dead. It's a great read. He also has videos on TH-cam.
So... The BBC now is making ad-campaigns for political parties? One-sided, not critical, faulty contextualisation, etc. This is terrible piece of journalism...
As Mark Twain put it: „Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.” Some guys in this commentary section certainly should try it some day.
The question about if they have a lot of crime around here is stupid because in that context it implies that you dont have to care if its fine and it will stay like that. Why do you think Switzerland still has such a low crime rate compared to other country's? Holding your standarts high is not a bad thing.....
@@galaxystar8232 No she is not. In Switzerland, she somehow represent the populist's nightmare. Operation Libero showed the other parties, how to beat the populist in votes and elections.
Direct democracy is wonderful, assuming that citizens can not vote to take away the rights or freedoms of others. And they cannot vote themselves the money or property of others, either. Switzerland: what a beautiful country!
The uk must preserve its sovereignty. It’s culture is a world monument. Sovereignty is more important than most things 1) food 2) shelter 3) sovereignty 4,5, 6 etc everything else
@@galaxystar8232 The following cars are made in the uk: jaguar Land rover Aston martin Nissan Ford London is the worlds financial capital. Pinewood film studios (New star wars movies) Just a few things on the top of my head that "none cares about"
@@galaxystar8232 Italians - give me a break. Other than over priced clothes new yorkers drool after, and ferraris, there really isn't much to sing about
Equating the rise of populism, championed by people like Steve Bannon and the US president, with the Swiss political system is a reach. In the very video you show two very different ideologies with active supporters within Switzerland, and the solution is not alt-right fisticuffs in the street as is popular in the US, but both sides working towards their vision of a better Switzerland...in the polls where it belongs. Ultimately, the people will decide what WE want. I see this as the natural law of self determination of a free people, not a tyranny of the majority. Those who don't like the current laws can have a referendum and change them if they can get enough support. The minority dictating the rules to the unsupportive majority is tyranny. I don't support the Swiss SVP or their vision, but I do support our democracy. The Swiss people have managed to steer the nation in a (mostly) positive direction where people are happy, prosperous, healthy, and so on. I'm quite sorry if the concept of democracy is difficult for you. Why does our direct democracy scare the EU and the BBC so much anyway? Why must your video twist our peaceful and stable nation to some disruptive force that will somehow destroy the much larger European Union? We have been here since 1291 doing the same thing. We haven't invaded anyone, started wars, built an overseas empire, spent our time undermining foreign nations, or threatened the EU. Just leave us to our cheese and wine and solve YOUR problems without invoking the spectre of Switzerland. If EU member states or the USA suddenly embrace populism, it isn't the fault of the Swiss. Go pick on the UK for leaving, or the French for supporting populist candidates, or, well, any of your member nations where this trend is happening.
switzerland has 2 sides. the farmers which care about the schweizer volks partei (conservatives) and us, the urban city people, which want tonjoib the eu.
@@ojberrettaberretta5314 I live in zurich, I know nobody who votes on the right side, well except my grandmother, but she grew up on the landside. All people I know vote either left or center.
@@AqierDesigns ich kenn paar wo svp wählet und di meiste davo sind migrantechinder vili segeds eim efach nd wil me si grad als rassiste bezeichned darum schwigeds lieber
This bbc report is extremely focused on one political party. We have a huge plethora of parties. From the right wing extreme pnos to the communist pda. We got it all. Next time, bbc, show some more of our parties. You always support diversity, except in politics.
15:40 I have a slight suspicion that that woman would not recognise a despotic construct, if it were already established and curently endangering her, and her people's, freedom...cough* EU cough*
EU has nothing to do with despotism. Despotism is an irrational, totalist version of tyranny. Idi Amin´s Uganda or current Equatorial Guinea would be examples of despotism. EU is not despotic, tyrannical or even authoritarian establishment although it is way more bureaucratic and less democratic than I would wish it to be. Switzerland is also not in EU so EU structures wouldn´t touch them.
Saying "Globalism" is an evil word is just as loaded as feeling that "patriotism" is an evil word. The concept that both can be evil is the two headed coin of modern politics; the crux upon which civilization will continue or not.
Let say that there is no single immigrant living in any country in Europe. Do you really think Europe wouldn't have problems they are having now? Like, decline of population, loss of jobs due to automation, general feeling of decline. After WWII the only direction for Europe could be up, since the situation was so horrendous for most of the European countries. Maybe all the Europeans who dislike their current life should talk to someone who lived through WWII. Studies show that people are usually not unhappy with their life situation, bad or good, but with the perception if the life will get better. And we have to admit, for most of the Europians, like ones in the clip, life has been rather good so far and it is hard to top it. All that doesn't mean there are no challenges, that globalization hasn't made a wrong turn, that it works better for some than the others. But lets think about the problems clearly, instead of blindly following Steve Bannon-like characters.
This is all true but you have to acknowledge that migration is another factor adding to the downward race to the bottom for wages, along with outsourcing and globalisation. To ignore this is to help the fascists. Just replace Immigrants with AI and automation and you can make the economic case that not everyone who voted Brexit or Trump is racist. We need more nuance or the simpletons and hatemongers win.
@@TrevKen Let's consider this statement: "Immigrants are the reason that wages are going down". I would argue that the reason wages are going down is decline of Unions. Why don't you blame powerful that have been destroying Unions so they can pay people low wages? And let's be honest, you think any native Europian would take a job of caring for an elderly person, or work as a farm worker, for example? But it is easy to beat on powerless. And I agree, immigrants are huge problem in the Europe right now, but not because they are inherently bad, but because they are perfect scape goats and ultimately will be cause for the rise of Nationalists, and not a good kind. My point, there is reason to be bitter, to debate the situation, but let's think through the problems first.
It seems we agree. But the Left is desperately missing pragmatic voices that understand supply/demand economics like Varoufakis/Chomsky et al. that can help explain the main things that are unfair other than just immigrants. But you can't ignore that supply and demand also applies to the workforce and with no unions or social support to redress the balance of growing inequality, the fascists easily win.
@@TrevKen Hungary and Poland are sliding into fascism and they don't even have immigrants! As a matter of fact many Polish people are working abroad practically as immigrants. Hungary has a highest suicide rates and again no immigrants. So something is going on, but obviously has nothing to do with immigration, or supply and demand.
@@TrevKen One more point. In US there is very low unemployment rate. Companies like Walmart can't find workers. But regardles of demand, as a worker you'll be paid below living wages in any Company similar to Walmart or not work at all.
The far right LOVES hating on the BBC but this video was very much made from the far right perspective and paints them as the "good guys". First, equating Switzerland as a model of the far right and presenting Switzerland as a paradise. Switzerland is a wild mix of things, in part due to their direct democracy. Second, equating direct democracy with the far right when historically, the far right has been authoritarian. Direct democracy is just a system of voting and is not inherently "populist". Populism is simplified politics appealing to voters emotions and can be right or left, the common theme being the good people versus some sort of bad elite. Third, presenting the far right as simply down to earth farmers and those they oppose as the corporate "elite", as if they're socialists. Unlike the socialist left who oppose all capitalists and capitalism (not to be confused with social democrats), the far right actually is not consistent with their opposition to the rich and who they consider an evil "globalist", they pick a few and make up others, then ignore the rest. Their economic policies almost always include tax cuts and other gifts to the very rich. Often, the common thread to their "globalist elite" is the rich they think are Jewish or who oppose the far right and Russia (like Soros, who also has Jewish ancestry but doesn't identify as Jewish) as well as pretty much anyone that works for an international organization and any part of the government that opposes their parties and leaders. Many far right figures are very wealthy themselves, including Bannon and Trump. The world used to be very nationalist and it was far from a utopia, countries were constantly at war with each other, world wars, and the global rich were just as powerful. Often times those wars were motivated by the interests of the wealthiest. Nationalism doesn't hurt them as they always find ways to profit and corrupt.
With direct democracy bribery through big corporations and similar powers is much more difficult to succeed than in a parlamentarian democracy. In a parlamentarian democracy only a couple of politicians have to be bought to inflict change. In a direct democracy the people votes are way more difficult to be bought.
In Switzerland direct democracy is supported by everyone. From the left to the right. We have this system for over 100 years. Most of these votes were really helpful. This is a really one sided picture of switzerland. And why do foreign media always interview Roger Köppel? He is a maniac!
@JSavic direct democracy is unfortunately very slow but in the end also very stable. Most people in Switzerland are for a good relationship with the the EU. The far right is not Switzerland. About 30% voting for SVP but most of them are not racist or stupid. Most people in Switzerland are however conservative.
Alex racist Switzerland
@@dindings
Nah, more like conservative
If they are racist then it would lead to tyranny
If it is tyranny then war is inevitable in some curcumstances
K Sprout great answer
@JSavic swiss women had the right to vote in 1921, however in appenzell they did npt get the right to vote until 1991, i dont know eher u got your facts from. The reason that this took so long is because( at least so they say) it was not enough room for the women to vote. And if a swiss women marries a foreigner she does not have to give up her nationality, where do u get ur facts from??
How dare Switzerland want peace and justice, what do they think they are, a sovereign nation?
Yes.
Well spotted
@@xenomyr well those in power don’t like to give too much power to the people, do they?
@@xenomyr Because its not the answer to every problem. Its a good system we have, but like with anything it has its flaws. Still wouldn't want to live without it and still think its great.
Seethe harder, fash
There are many benefits to living in Switzerland. The flag is a big plus.
Bahnstormer breaking news: due to economic constraints the flag of Switzerland will remove the vertical stripe on the flag saving millions. Now Switzerland is a minus
just stop with that joke...
@@dindings yes, and after they remove the vertical line, they will also make the shape round - as a trafic sign for foreigners (but only those who don't steal money to hide them in swiss banks...those who do, will always be welcomed)
@@AdamantSeraph hahahahaha
And Switzerland was correct. Their economy and currency is strong, they have trade with the rest of the EU. They maintain sovereignty and strong borders. Their rape and crime rates did not surge with refugee crisis that the EU has. They certainly did something right and are respected for it not demonized.
The only western smart nation
@@xxkl4ud1oxx98 and yet we got 24% foreigners, as if it has to do with the system and not where you are born.
@@ohnoohnonono3458 great majority of them comes from spain, portugal, germany france italy and jugoslavia
You are a bit wrong there on the sovereignty and strong borders part: We are a de facto member state of the EU, we just aren't represented in the EU parliament. Switzerland could join the EU tomorrow and almost nobody would notice that anything changed.
Switzerland has to implement EU law, is in the Schengen Area (abolishes border control) and Switzerland is a member of EFTA (ensures free trade between EU and EFTA members).
We have given up our sovereignty over our borders, trade policy with the EU and laws. Is this a bad thing? No, we prospered with the EU, the Switzerland of today wouldn't have been possible without a long-lasting, close relationship with the EU. Now we are in an akward spot, were we practically are an EU member, without actually being in the EU. In my opinion the best solutions would be the (former) "UK-style" EU-membership: being an EU member without the monetary-union. It wouldn't change much for us or Swiss businesses, but the Swiss people could finally have a say on EU law.
We don't have much problems with immigrants because we have extensive welfare programms and an exeptionally well public education-system. Poor people are always a problem and immigrants are sadly mostly poor, so we try to integrate them into the workforce within at least one generation.
actually, Switzerland is one of the safest places in the world
It’s not just banks in Switzerland. Go to any remote village, you will find factories and hard working intelligent people everywhere.
Kyros Thegreat thank you !
Thanks for those very nice words.
Im proud to be swiss
@@gola6864 As an Aussie I don't know much about Switzerland
@david nichols I was being sarcastic. They should be worried. That's exactly what will happen. BTW, watch the Eurosong contest this week. Look who will win. Look at his race and from which country he's coming. Interesting, ha?
Yep...foreigners
Just leave Switzerland alone, will you? It's a peaceful place.
Yes please.
@@comradedyatlov2227 Lmao, love these Anglo ignorant racists, they love multinational multiethnic large-immigration (much larger than UK and U.S.) Switzerland lol
TheSpiritOfTheTimes Only fucking idiots love multiculturalism. Unless you’re talking about other native Europeans. Which works better because of our similarities.
@@More_Row Just so you know, the american culture and the european culture are almost as far apart from one another as the arab culture is from the american one.
Lepetit Roquet When did I mention America here, I’m not American you twat.
Switzerland is beautiful country, and the people there have the absolute right to guard it like a precious gem. - Love from India
Well if it was up to me I will keep the Syrians immigrant and ban Indians tourists
@@pierreblaise9433 how would you go about implementing that?
@@trem876 I won't. I just feel that way.
I find it ironic that some guy from India agreed with Steve Bannon about what we should do in Switzerland, especially when the advice is to isolate yourself from the world.
@@pierreblaise9433 Tu ne sers à rien
@@pierreblaise9433 well then go on and start a petition for a referendum. Good luck with that.
14:55 - a 'tyranny of the majority.' I take it the speaker's preference would be a tyranny of her minority?
It's a confusing subject, but tyranny of the majority refers to political instances where the majority consistently votes for policy that benefits themselves without regard for the small guys. Populism is easily bred through these circumstances because it allows people to swiftly ostracize the small and weak, and creates highly emotional and often violent tendencies and stereotypes toward the minority. The whole idea of democracy was to make sure that every voice stays equal, and so putting up barriers to stop this type of tyranny is necessary, thus making the liberal components of many democracies a necessary part: check-and-balances.
_" a 'tyranny of the majority.' I take it the speaker's preference would be a tyranny of her minority?"_
Bravo, you now know what a logical fallacy is. Saying that something isn't true does not mean the opposite is.
and if you listen a few lines as she goes on to explain the way the tyranny happens is by the guy buying institutions and reducing the power and influence of these institutions and threfore the voice of the people... BUT.... the majority is the voice of the people. In a democracy the voice of the people is majoprity rules, otherwise why vote for something at all? Her stand is nonesensical. majority rules and hopefully the dont oppress minorities on the way...but whilst consideration for minorities are taken, minorities must fall inside the will of the majority on the whole. Otherwise for me it is a form of tyranny where the minority dictates what the majority wants.
Exactly.
The depths of left wing idiocy have never been plummed but I am sure that statement came quite close.
Switzerland is the country with the highest standard of living in the whole of Europe if not in the world. It's the most economically successful country in Europe. The Swiss Franc is as strong as ever and a symbol of stability (like our Deutsch Mark used to be before we adopted the doomed Euro). Finally, Switzerland is the most democratic country in Europe. And guess what? They manage to do all that without being a member of the ever so fabulous EU. Naturally the BBC is fuming mad about this because it does not play well into their globalist pro-EU narrative and so they attempt to ridicule Switzerland with this little hit piece. It is shameful what public broadcasting has become (ours is just as bad if not worse) and funding should be cut or it should be abolished altogether.
No... we in Switzerland are part of the EU in everything but name. We have access to the single market (one of the main reason for our prosperity) and we allow the freedom of movement (for the time being: we are going to vote again about that soon). We will soon negociate a framework deal to ensure that our regulations are aligned with that of the EU.
The swiss franc is actually still a bit too high and it has been a problem for a while (it was especially problematic during the 2008 crisis and the years that followed). Can't export when the price of your money makes everything way more expensive...
Globalism and direct democracy (which in turn provided a great political stability) made Switzerland what it is. We are a trading nation, open borders are essential to our prosperity.
Lepetit Roquet ...
That was the most delusional thing I’ve ever read. Holy shit.
If you think open borders are essential to prosperity you deserve exactly what will happen to you, your family (specifically the women in your family) and your country, because somewhere along the line someone failed to explain the nature of humanity to you, I’m assuming your father.
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Actually I think, that this documentary was not really pro liberals. Much time was about Trump and Bannon. Köppel, Blocher and Fischer - all from one - EU-Critics-Party could talk quite freely the longest time. The opposite side, the liberal Kleiner was just a small part of this video. I guess this is called the recency bias.
@@blazetooth1 You are afraid. It's a natural phenomenon, but once that tends to cloud one's judgment.
Go talk with a muslim at least once. Then you might have a chance to actually understand "the nature of humanity". ( th-cam.com/video/SSH5EY-W5oM/w-d-xo.html )
And don't worry, even if I had any illusion about the worst humanity is capable of, Trump would had given me a world class education ("grab women by the pussy", "kill their families", or on waterboarding: "I would approve it immediately, but I would also make it much worse [...] I would do much worse", not even counting the blatant constant lying).
But I've also had the occasion to talk with US citizen and I know that the majority of them are also good people and don't share such horrific views or such a terrible behavior.
It does Have a high standard of living ( I used to live in Geneva ) But frankly despite a lot of referendums and a supposed high degree of local control , your average citizen is fairly powerless , and unlike other European countries you will live and die without being able to eject the confederal government
We Germans have always admired the Swiss, eventhough there are many jokes. I guess that stems from admiration. Now, more than ever, Switzerland shows how democracy works. Grüzi aus Deutschland
Danke dir vielmals für den netten Kommentar :) Witze gehören doch dazu ;) Jeder darf über jeden Witze machen, so ist es am besten :) Ich hoffe ihr Deutschen werdet euer Land befreien von all dem Bösen das euch terrorisiert und lähmt.
I'm Swiss and as an active voting citizen and I feel somehow ridiculed by this.
How?
Globalists always want to degrade the people as a first step to controlling them.
@@noodlyappendage6729 As much as I dislike Blocher and his entourage I think it is impertinent to compare him to Trump. I understand Blochers concerns towards the refugee crisis but I do not condone the way in which he expresses them much like with Trump, yet the crucial difference between those two and the political landscape in the States and in Switzerland.... our right wing politicians are still vivid democrats who believe in every citizens right to vote and our system not being backwards.
The electoral college renders these "democratic" US elections a farce. How can someone win when loosing the popular vote?
Democracy means to partake in the decisions that form your nations fate. Yet all nations except Switzerland push legislative decisions through their parliament without consulting their people. Here I get to veto if someone wants to cut down a tree, as long as I mobilize enough people who share my opinion. And then we vote about it and that' democracy.
If you share this believe, you've met the first step of being Swiss. And although I disagree with our right wing politicians more often than not, I'd rather have them freely state their opinions than someone shutting them up.
@@lucaosswald1752 the difference being that Switzerland is essentially a unitary state, while the US is a union of 50 sovereign states. The Presidency is not a popularity contest, its about building a broad coalition that appeals to people across the entirety of America, instead of the centralized dense locales.
@@jebthegodemperor7301 Switzerland also has pretty sovereign districts states, and every district usually just does their own stuff (pretty annoying especially right now during the pandemic), but it is much smaller than the US, which makes it a lot easier.
15:00 "tyranny of majority" it's called democracy darling, it's not perfect, but it's the best we've got.
Because she wants to move Switzerland to "normalcy": aka join the other liberal, left-wing Western European anti-nation unionists , thus basically picking up all the pieces of the apple blown off Tell"s son and glue it back together again. That would be a great catastrophe, as it would end what the country has always been: neutral, independent and unique.
As an American living in Switzerland, why the critique about one of the best things - a direct democracy? Other systems have trouble guarding against corruption. The US can't even abolish lobbying bribery that most citizens want. It keeps politicians in line. It also forces people to take apart a topic and educate themselves, which they tend to do. The politicians constantly have the people as a guard rail. Do they make mistakes? Yes. But at least they have the decision.
100% agree
"The Swiss system of government by referendum is unique in the democratic world."
That's because Switzerland has the only democratic government in the world.
Bingo!!!
LOL no, China is actually a more democratic country. Sweden is still held back by capitalism, where it only benefits the elites and not the working class people
If populism according to BBC is: low tax, small government, individual freedoms incl. economic, rule of national law above other laws, cultural cohesion, general peace and order, political independence, freedom of speech without political correctness, no third world mass immigration ....then I AM IN!!!
+kt cool Yes. We mean an ethno state. You best get used to the idea.
kt cool lol there's a difference between social consequences and consequences given by the government, we dont want people in prison for speech, yes we know its an extreme idea but sorry its what I believe in.
And yes, there's also nothing wrong with ethnostates
@@ktcool100 culture is not race...go buy a dictionary dude.
@@ktcool100 @kt cool freedom of speech means that unpopular ideas get to be spoken out loud, so that the People, Not the state, have the freedom to, e.g. convince the racist or the bigot of the wrongs of their ways. Imagine these people were forbidden to utter their opinions...no-one would be able to hear them and thus have no opportunity to argue against them. #FreeSpeech
"With great power, comes great responsibility"
What a terrible country it must be where normal civilians are allowed to have a say in how its run; you are quite right to point this out BBC, its horrible!!
The funding of this broadcast agency should seriously be reconsidered. Greetings from Switzerland🏔🛤, home of Europe's last democracy.
If you say this program was a lie - you're Antisemite :)
I swear to god/jehovah/allah etc. Im considering moving to Switzerland if it's possible...
@EDGE oh, yeah, nowadays you get those attributes for telling the truth.
@EDGE yeah, I know
STOP PAYING THE BBC LICENSE
No BBC. No EU. MAGA. No fake news.
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i dont understand where there is fake news here or any strang manipulation this is a objectif documentary
"You can't have a nation without nationalism"
@Nobby Heads Idiot.
@Nobby Heads Read your first reply ye imbecile. Adolph, nationalism? As if the two are inseparable? Knob end...
@Nobby Heads wtf?
@Nobby Headsoh yeah he totally committed character assassination for calling you an idiot while you compared a guy to Hitler.
The problem is not nationalism. Of course I agree with you that you can't have a country without nationalism. But I add this : In Europe you can't have nationalism without war. Historically, Europeans were the most aggressive humans on Earth. Europe has always been in war. Do the research youserlf , you will come to the same conclusion.
There will come a time in the near future where it's not about whether you're left-wing or right-wing, but whether you're a nationalist or a globalist. We often hear about how awful nationalism is. Was it awful when former colonies wanted independence and self-determination from European powers? No. Was it awful when European powers wanted freedom from Papal rule? No. Is it awful that both Palestinians and the Tibetans want a nation of their own? No. Is it awful when Europeans want to be free from globalist rule? No. Is it awful that some Scottish nationalists want independence? No.
There is nothing wrong with a group of people wishing to be a majority in their own homeland and maintain their culture, traditions, customs self-determination and secure a future for the next generation. Many of the conflicts in history have been due to different groups of people wishing to establish a homeland of their own against empires with global ambitions.
This globalist multicultural agenda (in mostly white countries) is doomed to fail. We are often told diversity is our strength rather than unity? Multiculturalism has turned us into a low trust society where we're constantly walking on egg shells. Multiculturalism means that different groups of people are going to compete for dominance. It will also mean that the native majority will start to feel disenfranchised. Why should we accept FGM, child marriage, polygamy and other norms from culture incompatible to our own? How does this make us stronger? We can live in a global world where people simply cooperate and trade without having open borders. In Japan, which is more or less an homogeneous society, crime is virtually none existent and you often see people wearing masks when outdoors. They wear masks when they have a cold to avoid other people catching the virus. This is a perfect example of a high trust society. Japan is hugely successful and is looking at ways to combat their low birth rate without having to import people into their country. Not to mention the fact that Tokyo is one of the world most successful global cities.
Look at the recent comments made by the Dalai Lama when he said that Europe belongs to the Europeans. That's upset a lot of lefties and unfortunately they can't call him a Nazi for making that comment. Especially when he's been a hero to so many such as the likes of champagne socialists such as Russell Brand.
As for liberalism, it is doomed to fail also. Liberalism brings decadence, decadence weakens societies, and weak societies get take over by stronger groups of unified people. The Persians, Greeks and Romans became decadent in the end.
JAMES WHITELEY BRAVO, WELL SAID!
Or perhaps it's finally time for nuance instead of hollow promises of easy solutions and simplistic, this side or that, answers.
To Err is Huma no, i disagree with the original poster's ideas of future demographical and intersectional lines of political and ideological dichotomy. I think its much more complicated that he makes out.
John Mulligan In what way is he a fascist when he believes in smaller Government and direct democracy you muppet?
To Err is Huma for one multiculturalism isn't going anywhere like it or not as mass movement of peoples has already taken place. technology and globalisation are simply not and cannot be controlled by governments alone and nationalism isn't automatically the default opposed counterpart to multiculturalism in the present let alone in the future. technology is far too disruptive to make any concrete assumptions on this matter. also nationalism takes many forms good and bad, though most often bad due to, as i said earlier, all too often lack of nuance in its it overly simplistic answers to complex issues of economic relations, identity and migration and how such thing relate and intersect with eachother. these are but a few things and my wrist aches from typing
Protecting their own - nothing wrong with that.
"Protecting their own" would seem to mean resentful scaremongering of ethnic groups and glorifying fictional myths to you. There's something VERY wrong with that.
Jetpack Rorschach Like Japan does?
Prairie Dog How is that in any way "Like Japan"? They're not resentfully scaremongering different ethnic groups, and they're certainly not glorifying any fictional myths. If you want to use Japan as the best example of what you think is best for society, then you need to also understand how their society actually functions. I could EASILY pick apart what's wrong with Japanese society today, and also point out many things in their culture which would completely contradict your pathetic fantasy of how an all-white ethnostate would actually function. Here's a clue for ya, it wouldn't work out very well after 50+ years.
Jetpack Rorschach Jesus Christ man - they (Japan) are a mono-culture (98.5%), they do not accept outsiders easily, and they reject multiculturalism. BTW, I'm not white, so I'm not for any kind of white ethno state, you're going way off saying I am supporting a white ethno state when I have not even mentioned skin colour, just assuming I must be some kind of white nationalist because I don't have a problem with a 'white' culture wanting to preserve it's heritage and history. Try not to break your keyboard as you respond.
Prairie Dog Japan also has a foreign policy which ensures they leave other nations alone and do not have military presence abroad
"..tyranny of the majority.." : Orwellian doublespeak if I ever heard it.
That's the truth though, 100% democracy is very dangerous. If the majority rule then imagine the situation if the majority were to say, commit gennoacide on the minority? That's why it's important to have a constitution put in place which guards against any such actions. Democracy is not ideal in that sense, since the minority don't have a say., but with a good constitution in place their rights will be protected.
We need to use the failed system of democracy while we still have the numbers and then do away with it to solidify our power.
Oh my god, Mussolini has ressurrected
"Tyranny of the majority" was a phrase coined by John Major to describe the Brexit referendum result (he is a remainer). He also described the Social Chapter of the Maastricht Treaty that guarded the rights of workers across Europe as "immoral", and he made sure that Britain was the only nation within the E.U not to benefit from this clause. Btw, John Major was the protege of Margaret Thatcher, who came up with that other marvellous example of Orwellian doublespeak; "There is no such thing as society". (...So much for society and democracy then!)
As this is a B.B.C production I think the young woman in question would have been fed that line by the B.B.C interviewer.
15:00 Yeah, why not the voice of the people? And what the hell is a 'liberal democracy'?
This service is incredibly inaccurate about Switzerland. The number of mistakes made in the analysis is appalling. The journalist clearly knows nothing of the Swiss political system.
Normal Germans have a saying...
Wie immer, die Schweizer hat recht...
Or...
As usual, the Swiss get it right...
holly crap is that for real? you gave my patriotic shivers ^^
let's hope we get it right next month the SBI (Selbstbestimmungsinitiative) goes up for vote ... if accepted it will stop all back-door deals that changed swiss law on the quiet to "conform to european norms" and make the swiss constitution the highest autority in switzerland ... as it should be .. wish us luck
There is no danger on playgrounds in Switzerland. I live in a town with many foreigners from all over the planet. We are living happily together. No loss. Just gains.
Bs go home
Well let's not call it "tyranny of the majority" but what it is...democracy.
The svp is switzerlands biggest party, however in most referendums it ends up being the svp vs everyone else which leads to them not being nearly as dangerous as other populist movements around the world right now.
She said she doesn't feel its safe for her daughter to leave her house anymore but the crime rate in Switzerland has been consistently falling, sound brainwashed to me.
It depends on how these statistics are counted. Besides, she was speaking out of her own subjective personal experience which might be different to what is generally happening. Imagine my shock...
@@martinledermann1862 I understand it's going to be skewed by her subjective experience, but what I'm interested in is the seeming mismatch between what the objective facts say and what she perceives
Only non violent crime rates going down. Violent crime rates going up.
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This would say otherwise... I see we have someone here with absolutely zero intelligence
she's either dumb or (most likely) paranoid.
absolute crazy this woman.
the BBC should get back to defending globalism and no go zones in London because that is where globalism ends with people loosing their nation.
You have a very weak understanding of Switzerland (as a country, as a nation and as a concept).
What a concept--Swiss laws over international laws in Switzerland! Amazing that anyone thinks it should be any other way!!! I hope they protect their country by preserving their laws. In my country, and in the state I live in (California), some states are actually ignoring our country's laws, and we are seeing huge problems. Good on Switzerland! We could use Direct Democracy in California. Our "elected" officials are passing INSANE laws all the time, without any input from Californians.
Sounds simple and convincing, doesn't it? But maybe you should consider the following:
1. We entered all of our international agreements willingly and by popular vote. So there is no international law overturning the will of the swiss people. We actually voted for it!
2. With a few exceptions (for example the human rights convention) most international laws only apply to international interactions (mostly our trade deals). So we as citizens aren't really affected by international law if we don't do business with other countries.
3. Nobody would ever sign another treaty with us if we just end up ignoring it, because we have a different law in Switzerland. For a country with no natural ressources except water and an economy dependent on exports (63% of gdp), this initiative wasn't just stupid, it was dangerous.
Just for you to know, Iam a swiss citizen and at 4:37 this woman was talking shit, you can look in all of switzerlands statistics, that she's talking nonsens. And this man's party is not just conservative, but it's the extremist right-wing party of switzerland.
Ps. If you listen to Blocher in a debate, you'll notice how stutip he actually is. He won't tell you any arguments but he tells you a boring story.
pps. Nice to see something about switzerland here :^)
its generally been one of the nicest countries and one of the nicer ones now in europe funny how its the one they go after while the others crumble
Patriotic, sovereign and truly democratic Switzerland is a great model for the UK once Brexit finally happens
And Free Palestine!
@@zososierp I doubt Free Palestine would look democratic. Rather it would end up like Pakistan where islamist mob populism has practically taken over any democratic institutions.
I am Swiss and I can assure you that the SVP (the party you are talking about) does not represent the entire population of Switzerland. In the big cities and among the youth, they are seen as ridiculous.
I am Swiss since 1995 and by ancestry, since back in the 1600's, they left the country in 1650 - Anabaptists forced out by soldiers from Bern. The Swiss have the right to change any law, even the constitution, by popular vote. This "right" is not used often but the politicians know that if they pass a law without popular support it may be challenged and changed. Therefore, they keep in check their political ambitions to keep in line with what "the people" decide.
Switzerland has very low external debt (much higher than I would like), universal healthcare that is expensive but it works, and sustainable development where farming land is maintained and prospers. Switzerland is a near perfect example of true democracy - other countries should "take down" their respective populations where 1. they will no longer pose a threat to their neighbors and 2. the people remain in control.
Switzerland went through many wars and conflicts to establish cultural and linguistic boundaries within the country. Our experience can be shared with others in this difficult world of ours.
Were you born in Switzerland? Or are you an American descendent of Anabaptists?
Switzerland seems pretty cool to be honest.
15:57 I wonder🤔 if the pretty liberal lady knows what the "tyranny of the majority"( ie what is democracy? ) actually means?
Jo Howard ahahahahaha, absolutely not.
The will of the people more like
Ill explain it to you: In Switzerland we can vote on anything thus means Tyranny of the majority is abuse of democracy. If the only norm is majority will, then a majority can enslave a minority. Thus, democracy according to liberals need to be counterbalanced by protection of individual and minority rights. And these rights are currently secured by the Human Rights etc. but with the upcoming initiative there will be a vote against this security against the tyranny....next time research your stuff
@@galaxystar8232 Sure but first...... "In Switzerland WE" who is we? Do you live there?
Second if the minority has "Human Rights ETC...." please cite which "human rights" exactly stop a democratic majority from inacting their political will. I will wait patiently for you to list something that even America doesn't have. BTW vetos only exist if a majority is not large enough to be veto proof. Well.... I'll be waiting for your "research"😚
@@johoward5816 Yes i live in Switzerland im born here and i went to School here but im a foreigner in 4th Generation....
Ill explain you the Swiss system.. soo Swiss political chamber system is equal to the american senate and house but our president is formed of 7 people who all have to be diffrent parties and there has to be a representation of left to right and these 7 people all have to agree if they want to do a contract for example or present a new law if they dont all agree the thing they wanted to do is not happening. So to the Swiss citizen.. as a Swiss citizen i vote on every new law that gets presented and every contract or law change etc. that means that no politcian can introduce a law if its not been voted on by the people. What we can also vote on is existing laws and contracts. Or as a Citizen start a vote on a law withoug being politician in the chambers . In the Swiss Constitution Human Rights are secured and nearly the same as Americas and Europes but.. Swiss Citizen can also vote on these Rights they can vote on everything . At the moment doe there are contracts and the emrk which is the european court for human laws is put above swiss right which means if there would be a law which for example be against he minorities or for example the deportation law that got voted on and got a yes. Cant be institued like it is written in the Intiative text because the EMRK says its going against human rights. So Swiss Citizen are soon voting on putting Swiss Right above foreign right which will also trigger the need for new agreements with the eu and if they vote yes they majority has the ability to vote against a minority " the tyranny of the majority" because if 51 percent vote yes the law is institutued sorry fort this long and confusing text but the swiss politcal system is complicated and i cant really explain it well in english
haha, such a one-sided picture of Switzerland!
I am from Poland and I support Swiss Nationalists. EU have done some good but at the same time far more bad.I have been to Switzerland twice this year. Beautiful land and beautiful people.
PascalFL I’m Swiss and we all know that in Poland, nationalist are raising. We don’t need the left or nationalists in Switzerland, we are doing great because there isn’t one party who’s ruling the country. We have maybe 6/7 major parties (UDC, PLR, PDC, Verts libéraux etc...)
Switzerland is exactly a good country because there are a lot of parties and views and everyone has to say something so there is always equality between left and right
I lived in Switzerland for all my life and I couldn't agree more :) love it so much
With this short movie, the BBC gave an increasingly unpopular Swiss political party the platform to present themselves. This group of people clearly doesn't represent the country. Just one week ago, the initiave "‘Swiss law, not foreign judges" brought forward by this political party (which is the one discussed by this charming farme's family) was rejected by the Swiss population by almost 68%. I guess the BBC got their answer: Switzerland is not the cradle of populism.
A Swiss here trying to moderate:
The problem, judging form some of the comments, is that the issue is looked at from an American point of view: in CH we have many parties, not just two, in other words we always have many options and we decide in each individual vote, which occurs every 3 months on a national basis and even more regularly on a regional or even neighborhood (Gemeinden maybe county is a good translation) basis, in whom we put our trust. We are not red, black, green or yellow (which are just some of the party colors, we are able to vote in). The verity of choices leads to Parlaments which are almost never held by one single majority but a mix of politicians with different values, who need to compromise to accomplish anything. And her-in lys the success story: we are always compromising with one an other. We don’t hate each other for our believes but try to work differences out and find common ground, listen and at the end we take a vote..
This video while very well made with tax dollars, as a part of their populism in Europe series, begs the question. Is the BBC being fair and balanced and/ or are they expressing a bias 🤔?
The Biased Broadcasting Corporation....
The BBC is bias by ommission you cant know what you are not told the globalists own the MSM
The real Traitor is The BBC who are supposed to be owned by us the people through our compulsary licence fee each year only to be fed a daily diet of globalist propaganda
The BBC does is not financed by tax, it's paid for by a licence fee. Fox news on the other hand is the most biased news source in the western world.
@@homosexualpanic Below this video, there is a message it says "BBC is a British broadcast service" though you say it's "paid" for by "licence fee" and not a tax, that technicality seems not important to people. Your implication is that the BBC, pays it's costs the same way Fox News does, not many people would agree with you. Lastly Fox News is right wing bias while BBC is neo liberal NATO bias in my subjective opinion
Excuse me but i might ask what in this video was bias because i couldnt find anything than it being even pro right than pro left.....
Populists love direct democracy is such a weird way of putting it. everybody should and everybody is loving direct democracy. I don't get what you get from putting such a negativ connotation next to direct democracy.
Fully agree with you. On top of this this assertion is wrong unless we refer to the late 19th century populist party which indeed bolstered direct democracy.
Modern days “populists” do not especially love direct democracy: “Steve Bannon loves using direct democracy as a campaign argument” would be more valid. What democratic reforms did Trump pushed in the US? To my knowledge absolutely nothing.
I would like to see the Swiss system in the US, politicians are too cozy and they need to be more accountable to the people.
"Populism" is not only not a bug of democracy. Not even a feature. It is a KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATOR of democracy. A non-"populist" democracy is a broken democracy.
ahh bbc fake news
Switzerland is the California of Europe. What are you ppl talking about?
God bless peace loving, freedom loving nationalists of every country!
You know what's great? A country who doesn't have one leading person and who listens to the citizens. It's not just the bank all alone which helps Switzerland as a country.. it's the system we have build up within years. There's nothing wrong being proud of your country and keeping your culture. Solve your problems in your own country and leave other countries alone.
The woman at the end might want to drop the term "tyranny of the majority" from her rhetoric. It doesn't play well.
Seriously I can't believe there are still people who are defending the European Union. I can understand that the origins of EU were noble and useful, but right now its a corrupted bureaucratic nightmare.
if anyone's interested: the initiative that they talked about (Selbstbestimmungsinitiative) did not get accepted. more than 66% of the voting people voted no. (that's a lot)
i am swiss🇨🇭 so -> we just want to be on our own. we also respect other nations will . whats the problem? perhaps the world would be better if everyone chills.... like we😁
Why doesn’t BBC do a video on Soros ?
Ps: I think we all know why
Thy should be afraid to show him as he was at his young age the real nazi. :)
That Bilderberg guy nodded involuntarily when asked if planning global government !
Body language 101
based, I want a star trek future too
Tyranny of the majority? That lady is sick
Anyone noticed that the Swiss just voted down with a large majority that initiative to “take back control of our laws”. They understood that international law is not a threat to sovereignty for a small nation but rather the opposite. Perhaps a third of the Swiss support conservative populists and the system of requiring a majority of cantons in every vote as well as the overrepresentation of tiny rural (and thus conservative) cantons favour them, yet they have lost the vast majority of popular votes in the last years.
As an American with everything going on I have often thought of moving to Switzerland.
Integrate yourself, if you want to immigrate.
@@oof5020 of course I plan to, if i move i will at least attempt to learn the language and culture, i respect it so i shall try
@@johngalt5166 Switzerland is a utopic land in most regards, and it's great that you intend to learn the language (assuming you mean Schweizerdeutsch), but don't expect too much conversation.
@@johngalt5166 swiss have 25% foreigners
So it's multicultural hellhole
switzerland is one of the most safe country where kids can play on the playground and walk to school without fear.
Sweden used to be like that only 20 years ago. Sadly, not anymore.
@@AABB-zb6dv
I think Norway, especially the suburbs and the countryside are so safe that people go to bed at night without locking their doors. I don't think the center of big cities such as Oslo is at that high level of safety that the residents would feel safe enough not to lock their doors when they go to bed at night.
"tyranny of the majority"...umm... doesn't that mean a functional democracy?
And now the people in Switzerland voted against the initiative „Selbstbestimmung“ and for the international agreements. 66% voted against this populistic bullshit. So where is the video about that?
This was uploaded earlier today, removed and reuploaded, I wonder what they removed...
They never allowed comments on that one either. I'm glad they've uploaded it again.
@@jameswhiteley6843 Still suspicious though
Hi there, you're right we did remove the earlier report. This is because there was an issue with the audio, it was only coming out of one earphone and not both. This version is correct. Thanks, the Newsnight team
hmmm. ... (rubbing chin) ... i wonder,
Jeez guys cheer up! It's not like every single person on the planet is your enemy... Freaking incels, jeez
Swiss should vote for the Switzerland People Party
unlike the rest of the world we swiss can sit together (from liberal to conservatives), discuss, argue and fight, but we always find a solution wich is best for our country. so, please open your mind and know your real enemies. it’s not your countrymen that have a different oppinion than you do.
I am swiss and this made me cringe so hard
i actually like direct democracy
Oh lol they took the svp. One of the most unliked party in Switzerland among young and open minded people.
come on... why is the english of all people so bad?
Check out the work of Patrick Deneen from Notre Damn University on his thoughts on Western culture and why liberalism is dead. It's a great read. He also has videos on TH-cam.
Damn that Notre Damn.
Part 3, what was his name? I missed it.
So... The BBC now is making ad-campaigns for political parties?
One-sided, not critical, faulty contextualisation, etc.
This is terrible piece of journalism...
You realise this was for right and left and if they would make an add theyd make and add for swiss people.. the freaking bbc
As Mark Twain put it:
„Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.”
Some guys in this commentary section certainly should try it some day.
It's obvious, Sweden should leave the EU.
Swaziland*
Whut
The question about if they have a lot of crime around here is stupid because in that context it implies that you dont have to care if its fine and it will stay like that. Why do you think Switzerland still has such a low crime rate compared to other country's? Holding your standarts high is not a bad thing.....
"I'm the populists worst's nightmare." Ooh I'm so scared. 😭😂
she was joking
@@galaxystar8232 No she is not. In Switzerland, she somehow represent the populist's nightmare. Operation Libero showed the other parties, how to beat the populist in votes and elections.
Direct democracy is wonderful, assuming that citizens can not vote to take away the rights or freedoms of others. And they cannot vote themselves the money or property of others, either. Switzerland: what a beautiful country!
The uk must preserve its sovereignty. It’s culture is a world monument.
Sovereignty is more important than most things
1) food
2) shelter
3) sovereignty
4,5, 6 etc everything else
leapsplashafrog
Freedom = sovereignty
You're speaking english.. you doughnut!
Still what you gonna do if you leave the EU your not lke the Italians noone cares about your products if the suddendly go up about 20 percent
@@galaxystar8232
The following cars are made in the uk:
jaguar
Land rover
Aston martin
Nissan
Ford
London is the worlds financial capital.
Pinewood film studios (New star wars movies)
Just a few things on the top of my head that "none cares about"
@@galaxystar8232 Italians - give me a break. Other than over priced clothes new yorkers drool after, and ferraris, there really isn't much to sing about
I love swiss people they have the right attitudes, as soon as certain cultures arrive rapes disruptions begin, the takeover
Tyranny of majority?! Liberal is amazing.
The BBC still can't forgive the British people for Brexit.
Wow that was a very quick edit to Alex Jones. And surprisingly it's longer time than TH-cam lets him run.
Free trip for BBC to Switzerland...
👍 fixed audio. Thanks
I want to vote for my country, I don’t want the politicians voting for my country.
we swiss peepäl häf nou äkksent
Däts reit. Ispäscheli SVP piipäl spiik pörfekt Inglisch. Saund leik Brits or Ämerikäns. Ämeysing.
RainbowYak Uii niit olwäiss de Wilelmtel in Suitserländt!
@@RainbowYak Jäs, däts rait, espäscheli Matrullo Blocher, her inglisch isch perfekt
Equating the rise of populism, championed by people like Steve Bannon and the US president, with the Swiss political system is a reach. In the very video you show two very different ideologies with active supporters within Switzerland, and the solution is not alt-right fisticuffs in the street as is popular in the US, but both sides working towards their vision of a better Switzerland...in the polls where it belongs. Ultimately, the people will decide what WE want. I see this as the natural law of self determination of a free people, not a tyranny of the majority. Those who don't like the current laws can have a referendum and change them if they can get enough support. The minority dictating the rules to the unsupportive majority is tyranny. I don't support the Swiss SVP or their vision, but I do support our democracy. The Swiss people have managed to steer the nation in a (mostly) positive direction where people are happy, prosperous, healthy, and so on. I'm quite sorry if the concept of democracy is difficult for you. Why does our direct democracy scare the EU and the BBC so much anyway? Why must your video twist our peaceful and stable nation to some disruptive force that will somehow destroy the much larger European Union? We have been here since 1291 doing the same thing. We haven't invaded anyone, started wars, built an overseas empire, spent our time undermining foreign nations, or threatened the EU. Just leave us to our cheese and wine and solve YOUR problems without invoking the spectre of Switzerland. If EU member states or the USA suddenly embrace populism, it isn't the fault of the Swiss. Go pick on the UK for leaving, or the French for supporting populist candidates, or, well, any of your member nations where this trend is happening.
switzerland has 2 sides. the farmers which care about the schweizer volks partei (conservatives) and us, the urban city people, which want tonjoib the eu.
naw im from the city and many here vote svp aswell
@@ojberrettaberretta5314 I live in zurich, I know nobody who votes on the right side, well except my grandmother, but she grew up on the landside.
All people I know vote either left or center.
@@AqierDesigns ich kenn paar wo svp wählet und di meiste davo sind migrantechinder vili segeds eim efach nd wil me si grad als rassiste bezeichned darum schwigeds lieber
For a newsnight report it was fairly balanaced report coming from BBC.
Time for us brits, us europeans to stop bring ashamed of being in the best continent in the world.
@AYE OK SURE Please leave the EU if you think of Britain like that
This bbc report is extremely focused on one political party. We have a huge plethora of parties. From the right wing extreme pnos to the communist pda. We got it all. Next time, bbc, show some more of our parties. You always support diversity, except in politics.
hets do au schwizer am luege?
Ja.
Jää
15:40 I have a slight suspicion that that woman would not recognise a despotic construct, if it were already established and curently endangering her, and her people's, freedom...cough* EU cough*
EU has nothing to do with despotism. Despotism is an irrational, totalist version of tyranny. Idi Amin´s Uganda or current Equatorial Guinea would be examples of despotism. EU is not despotic, tyrannical or even authoritarian establishment although it is way more bureaucratic and less democratic than I would wish it to be. Switzerland is also not in EU so EU structures wouldn´t touch them.
People need to stop paying this freak!!
Dilena M. King I will donate double now . Just to piss you off
Saying "Globalism" is an evil word is just as loaded as feeling that "patriotism" is an evil word. The concept that both can be evil is the two headed coin of modern politics; the crux upon which civilization will continue or not.
Let say that there is no single immigrant living in any country in Europe. Do you really think Europe wouldn't have problems they are having now? Like, decline of population, loss of jobs due to automation, general feeling of decline. After WWII the only direction for Europe could be up, since the situation was so horrendous for most of the European countries. Maybe all the Europeans who dislike their current life should talk to someone who lived through WWII. Studies show that people are usually not unhappy with their life situation, bad or good, but with the perception if the life will get better. And we have to admit, for most of the Europians, like ones in the clip, life has been rather good so far and it is hard to top it. All that doesn't mean there are no challenges, that globalization hasn't made a wrong turn, that it works better for some than the others. But lets think about the problems clearly, instead of blindly following Steve Bannon-like characters.
This is all true but you have to acknowledge that migration is another factor adding to the downward race to the bottom for wages, along with outsourcing and globalisation. To ignore this is to help the fascists. Just replace Immigrants with AI and automation and you can make the economic case that not everyone who voted Brexit or Trump is racist. We need more nuance or the simpletons and hatemongers win.
@@TrevKen Let's consider this statement: "Immigrants are the reason that wages are going down". I would argue that the reason wages are going down is decline of Unions. Why don't you blame powerful that have been destroying Unions so they can pay people low wages? And let's be honest, you think any native Europian would take a job of caring for an elderly person, or work as a farm worker, for example? But it is easy to beat on powerless. And I agree, immigrants are huge problem in the Europe right now, but not because they are inherently bad, but because they are perfect scape goats and ultimately will be cause for the rise of Nationalists, and not a good kind. My point, there is reason to be bitter, to debate the situation, but let's think through the problems first.
It seems we agree. But the Left is desperately missing pragmatic voices that understand supply/demand economics like Varoufakis/Chomsky et al. that can help explain the main things that are unfair other than just immigrants. But you can't ignore that supply and demand also applies to the workforce and with no unions or social support to redress the balance of growing inequality, the fascists easily win.
@@TrevKen Hungary and Poland are sliding into fascism and they don't even have immigrants! As a matter of fact many Polish people are working abroad practically as immigrants. Hungary has a highest suicide rates and again no immigrants.
So something is going on, but obviously has nothing to do with immigration, or supply and demand.
@@TrevKen One more point. In US there is very low unemployment rate. Companies like Walmart can't find workers. But regardles of demand, as a worker you'll be paid below living wages in any Company similar to Walmart or not work at all.
just like to point out when asked about plans for a one world government, the Bilderberg guy didn't deny it, he just said "what an idea"
The far right LOVES hating on the BBC but this video was very much made from the far right perspective and paints them as the "good guys". First, equating Switzerland as a model of the far right and presenting Switzerland as a paradise. Switzerland is a wild mix of things, in part due to their direct democracy. Second, equating direct democracy with the far right when historically, the far right has been authoritarian. Direct democracy is just a system of voting and is not inherently "populist". Populism is simplified politics appealing to voters emotions and can be right or left, the common theme being the good people versus some sort of bad elite. Third, presenting the far right as simply down to earth farmers and those they oppose as the corporate "elite", as if they're socialists. Unlike the socialist left who oppose all capitalists and capitalism (not to be confused with social democrats), the far right actually is not consistent with their opposition to the rich and who they consider an evil "globalist", they pick a few and make up others, then ignore the rest. Their economic policies almost always include tax cuts and other gifts to the very rich. Often, the common thread to their "globalist elite" is the rich they think are Jewish or who oppose the far right and Russia (like Soros, who also has Jewish ancestry but doesn't identify as Jewish) as well as pretty much anyone that works for an international organization and any part of the government that opposes their parties and leaders. Many far right figures are very wealthy themselves, including Bannon and Trump. The world used to be very nationalist and it was far from a utopia, countries were constantly at war with each other, world wars, and the global rich were just as powerful. Often times those wars were motivated by the interests of the wealthiest. Nationalism doesn't hurt them as they always find ways to profit and corrupt.
Where did they get the music?
Oohhh gott spätistens wed BBC übere Blocher brichtet de wisch da isch öppis im Busch! 😂😂 #SBI
With direct democracy bribery through big corporations and similar powers is much more difficult to succeed than in a parlamentarian democracy. In a parlamentarian democracy only a couple of politicians have to be bought to inflict change. In a direct democracy the people votes are way more difficult to be bought.