3 Doctors Respond to CrossFit's Instagram Post: Coke, Health, and Orthorexia
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ค. 2024
- www.barbellmedicine.com
Jordan Feigenbaum, MD(@jordan_barbellmedicine.com)
Austin Baraki, MD (@a.z.b)
Mike Israetel, PhD (@rpdrmike)
Time Stamps
0:00 Dr. Israetel Introduction
1:30 CrossFit Post Description
4:30 Mike's Response to Post
6:45 Austin's Response to Post
7:25 HIPAA
9:00 Jordan's Response
9:50 Sugar Sweetened Beverage Intake and Health
16:05 Sarcopenia
18:30: Fear Mongering
21:30 Is 80% of what we're dying from really from sugar?
25:00 Quality of life, trade offs, and improving mortality
28:00 Religion, Belief Systems, and Dietary Practices
31:30 What if you were Surgeon General?
36:00 Orthorexia
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"Multiple different nuances." Jordan is reaching his ultimate form.
I was hoping to spot Alan Thrall in the background sneaking around your apartment.
Huffman_Tree in austins housecoat and slippers
Allan Thrall!!!
holy shit thats funny
Mike is so awesome to listen to. Always so interested in the stuff he's talking about. Needs to be back on the Podcast
Dr. Mike blinks @ RPE 8.5
Holy shit! You three got together?? Finally!
You're telling me!
I'm so stoked that you guys are putting out more of this type of information. Life is all about choices, and any extremes in those choices will lead to some sort of likely negative outcome. Coke isn't evil, sugar isn't evil, meat isn't evil, vegans aren't evil (although blasphemous IMHO). All kidding aside, educate yourself and make good, balanced choices. Thanks for helping people understand this guys and for calling bullshit for what it is.
Thanks for the listen and the comment!
I love how jordans camera is focused on his dvr and comcast modem and not on him.lol
"It's better over here; we have more stuff." So funny, and so very factual.
The elephant in the room for me is will Baraki get his shirt off the next time he features in a training vid.
Somebody has to ask the tough questions.
First things first, that Bill is anything but mellow
Wish I watched this 10 minutes ago. Just finished a can of Coke, they are now consulting hospice care for me. Please send help.
Start the morphine drip. It's all over.
I'm so glad I have found you guys. Finally some knowledgeable people sharing good information. Thanks guys
just found your podcasts. recently started tracking my intake. these small tips help me so much to not over do controlling my diet and failing like so many times before :D
"Hospital beds kill people" - Crossfit 2017
you guys deserve so much more views. so much information
Really good discussion. I've leaned towards the orthorexia problem at times and its good to hear this. I always remind myself not to beat myself up about diet. Ive always gained weight easily being an endomorph and worrying about shit always makes it worse. Thanks guys!
Thanks so much for putting this out there. Sober and sane.
I’m re-listening to this podcast because it’s awesome. Please get mike on again!!
Same lol
Man Layne Norton would get soooo fired up with this type of topic
Very informative Jordan, great cast!
"Certainly more scientific. Oh, someone's gonna be triggered" - I almost choked on what I was eating xD
Pre-like crew checking in.
Awesome video!! I'd love to see more of you three together and possibly see you three in seminar!!
"my friend with a broken leg can not do squats" fell off my chair laughing
With Dr. Mike's present connections to Philly, was there any off camera discussion of the rumored Barbell Medicine Seminar in Philly?
Dang, you really do drop the hottest mixtapes! Keep up the good work.
Excellent intelligent discourse - really enjoyed the dialogue and the information
Thanks!
Best spent 45 min and 44 seconds of my day. I fucking love this channel!
Brilliant Video - love the scientific approach and Mike Israetel's "no BS rant" somewhere in the middle
so you guys were not only informative but Entertaining!
Would be awesome if you got Mike back on. He's crazy smart and funny as hell.
Here for the nuance
I looked up ‘orthorexia,’ and actually got a laugh. Not that the subject is funny-it is not. It was about me.
I starting training again, a few years back. As the time went on, I became more and more careful about my food purchases. This is no surprise, as I switched to nonfat milk and whole wheat bread, forty-plus years back, in my college days.
So, I am in the stupormarket, walking from the veggies to the bread, looking at a box of something I had selected. Suddenly I came to a stop, thought, “I’ve become one of THEM, the people who scrutinize the nutrition labels, and compare them carefully!” After a period of dead air, I then thought, “Not a problem. It is actually useful, and it is not an obsession.”
Every time I tell this story, it gets a laugh.
Love Mike's insights!
Great guest to have on the podcast.
FWIW, the post is still on the main Crossfit IG.
Nice with the time stamps, but this episode was really entertaining, didn't need. Make sure you do those timestamps for the QA episodes . . .
Hell yes! Mike is a nutrition genius
I love this podcast
Mike is a fantastic guest
Damn, now I want to smoke a cigarette wrapped in bacon!
I LOVE THIS!!
I'm no Sherlock, but it looks as if that man died of old age and not drinking Coke...
People don't often die of "old age". They usually die of CVD/CHD or cancer, or some combination. How long they manage to outrun it is a pretty complicated ordeal.
I want more, thanks guys.
This Coke is for y'all, hopefully I'll live long enough for the next one.
👌Brilliant infotainment
Best doctors on the tube!
Great stuff as always... hope that check from Coke allows you guys to put on many more shows. From a dental health perspective, I'd recommend reducing soda consumption.
you guys should do a video on your thoughts on the new documentary What the Health! Would be awesome.
And where do you find a table for optimum weight to height ratio IF you lift weights/ because the BMI is useless...
I agree. The length of your life is largely genetically determined. My great-grandfather chewed tobacco since he was 8 years old and he lived to 98.
Mike is so right when he talks about how offensive the "secret cancer cure" conspiraloons are. I think sugar having such a bad reputation in some circles is due to how easy an intervention it is when a person wants to lose weight and then failing to realise that there's a big difference between an overweight person trying to cut and a person who's at the weight they're happy with eating what they like within the bounds of maintaining that weight.
I really enjoy your videos and articles. I appreciate the nuance. It's lacking in all areas of life. You should consider politics.
So much awesome
yesss!!!!!! Isratel. favs
So damn good
PS Jordan your camera is focused anywhere but on you :-D then again, you have a nice TV and chair :-D
Haha
Lol didn't notice this till I read your comment
Whew! My head hurts from the rapid-tongued Dr. Mike. Sounds like an auctioneer on caffeine.
I am a ford guy and okay with that. If ford wanted to "own me" I would be okay with that so long as I always had a new ford (truck). That being the case chevy and dodge are welcome to "own me" too. Lol
Somewhere, someone's administrator and a metric ton of risk management personnel are nicely asking this gentleman to pursue other forms of employment.
Let's hope.
Dead people don't have privacy rights.
🔥🔥🔥🔥
Wait... So aren't THEY killing us???? Great video and the most brutal PhD I've seen so far.
Was it just me? Or did anyone else feel like cracking up a nice cold Dr. Pepper during this?
Isratel's rant around the 25 minute mark. Funny, but sad, but true.
If you put before links in YT Descriptions they are clickable, you probably loose a lot of potential clicks by making people copy and pasting the link. I know it sounds silly, but a common saying in web design is you loose ~50% of readers for every extra step necessary.
"No such thing as bad carbs" - Kali Muscle
It's a little more NUANCED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love you guyzZz
(besides all of their valid points) Did I miss the part where they mention the fact that the actual situation being portrayed is absurd? When you are basically on your deadbed, even if you were morbidly obese... wouldn't it be ok to let your dying husband have a massive bar of chocolate? I mean, at this point it is too late... are you really gonna walk around hospitals and take away coke from kids on chemotherapy? Give me a break... That photo would have been way more relevant if it was a picture in front of a fast food restaurant.
gotta focus that camera dawg
cackling in the background
"LEARN TO READ!!" lol
40:45 I'm dying
"Only an interconnected framework of well supported facts."
There's probably a bottle of Jack under that blanket.
This is fuckin good.
In normal human speak - don’t be fat, don’t be super skinny. Lift weights safely. Eat your veggies and protein. If you wanna optimize past this, proceed to read 100 textbooks and practice what you learn from them.
Mike the shill back at it again.
Just kidding, love the content fellas. Keep it up!
Thanks!
I'd like to see Dr Michael Gregor in this chat. its all out of context but still.
Thanks for cutting through the bullshit that is 95% of the fitness industry. Holy trinity of evidence based gainzZz right here.
A can of Coke is not a big deal, but people are their habits, and the can of Coke is usually not a one-off; it is a stupid habit, like the cigarette. Further, the can of Coke usually means a host of other bad choices, that in aggregate are destructive of life. But, sure, a can of Coke doesn't kill anyone. I don't think we can vilify things like cans of Coke, just because we may care about people who make poor choices.
Damn. Why can't all meatheads be as intellectual as this guy?
edit: meathead(s), these, and guys*
I drank a coke after this.
1-2 glasses of wine every day is fine?
Bottles not glasses, don't want to die of alcohol underdose now.
NUANCE
This guy went to University of Michigan and Appalachian State? Yikes
Degrees from Michigan and App State? Interesting 😂
Even spent some time at Central Missouri, as I recall.
Jordan Feigenbaum wonder if he felt conflicted about the big App State upset over U of M. Given how big that upset was, having degrees from those two schools is crazy.
don't they give sugary drinks to hospice patients because they literally cant keep anything down?
GIboy1990 they'll give anything to hospice patients, but it depends to answer your question
it is surgeons general not surgeon general.
Huh?
Not important.... Thank you for this channel. It has been helpful.
www.surgeongeneral.gov/about/history/index.html
15 people died from big soda
😭😭😭
So we should eat more Bibles?
"they" do "own" us in the regard of public legislation. try to get a law passed that says consumer good manufactures have to label their products that contain sugar, or sugar alcohols, or any sugar-like substance, in a clear manner, or changing school lunches to a more whole foods style "see michelle obamas failure"
GIboy1990 that's not true
Jordan Feigenbaum I'm inclined to believe otherwise. When Michelle Obama was pushing out her school lunch revamp for healthier options the amount of sugar intake didn't change, Tha KS to sugar lobbying.
Props to wanting to punch the "secret cure" jerks in the face.
Haha!
May I request that an upcoming guest be Layne Norton
I think you just wanted to get together and shit on Cross Fit for 45 minutes.
Slywolf1992 do you know how many times we actually referenced crossfit in this video? I'm guessing you didn't watch it, but that's cool Peter Man
Bile? No, that's the Quran.
And sweet Jesus, Mike talks fast.
kaboose111 thats a very common trait with extremely smart people. Their brains are literally faster than average.
Hmm. Either that or he's on meth. We can't rule everything out until we know for sure.
@Dr retardo he probably does take steroids, so what. he has a phd and a masters. it's his choice to make, steroids give you performance enhancements at the cost of lifespan. it's like saying people who only sleep 5 hours a night because they need extra time to build their business are stupid, sleeping less will decrease your lifespan but may improve their subjective quality of life, so its their choice.
Bile is more scientific than the bible. I need that on a T-Shirt.
LOL
Well, how do you get something from nothing. Scientifically...
There's a big bang of matter and energy. Then a few million years go by, some people write a book in order to gain power. Voila.
How did DNA form? Or a stable cell wall without a prime mover?
@@BarbellMedicine speaking of not looking at the literature... do you have a scientific answer for irreducibly complex machines in the human body? How about the 2nd law of thermodynamics as it applies to the earth timeline? How about the fine tuning of the universe, moral compasses, or free will? I came hear because I enjoy your perspectives on weight training and nutrition. You are clearly out of your depth and sound like the crossfit nurse when you get into religion. Stick to what you're good at and leave the theology to the scholars. Hope you're as open to exploring theories that counter to modern narrative as you ask your clients to be.
I wouldn't comment on sugar in an instagram of a dying man, but it's fine to vilify sugar and soda, although people are certainly free to consume it. And you guys are probably aware of Dr. Lustig's argument that sugar is addictive, carcinogenic, etc. Thankfully, sugar consumption is finally starting to decline.
bible gets spell-checked on Jordan's computer to "bile". oy vey!
Duh...moderation? Laughable guy's.
Ah, the delicious irony of a guy who correctly points out the magical thinking behind the idea that sugary soda is "bad", touting "healthy food" like whole grains, veganism, vegan protein options, and canola oil.
These beliefs are as ungrounded in science, pseudo religious, and potentially orthorexic, as the idea that having a coke will kill you.
I'm referring to the guest. I understand that the good doctors just let him state his own thoughts and didn't necessarily endorse everything he said just by having him on.
Yeah when I heard him tout canola oil as a healthy source of fat I was pretty surprised......the stuff is absolute trash that was intended as machinery lubricant until they found a way to deodorize it to make it palatable. It's not food.
@@ZippyLikesZippers I asked Jordan Feigenbaum what to say about people who think canola oil is bad, he told me to ignore the stupid people and move on with my life. 100% srs lmao
Coke is entertaining garbage. Better than alcohol, at least.
Unsubscribing
Mike the Ben Shapiro of Health and Fitness