Rotax Engine Failure - Flying Impressive Sling2 LSA in SoCal

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  • @Airborne-80
    @Airborne-80 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Omar seems like the best kind of instructor in terms of knowledge, tone, and personality. Not ever flying is gonna be my only regret in life. Excellent video….new subscriber.

  • @ProfSimonHolland
    @ProfSimonHolland 6 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    you capture the feeling of flying better than anyone else . .....thanks.

    • @FlightChops
      @FlightChops  6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thanks so much for this great feedback! My goal is to have the viewer feel immersed and onboard with me

    • @savage101.
      @savage101. 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      FlightChops What's your stance on the Earth's shape? Flat or round?

    • @ashwath2207
      @ashwath2207 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@savage101. it's square

  • @stevendee2831
    @stevendee2831 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As a former g.a.line service tech at ONT and CNO, I really appreciate your videos.

  • @mattnorthrup7852
    @mattnorthrup7852 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I would fly a piper sport LSA (rotax engine) when I lived in CO and to this day it is still my favorite plane I have flown. LSAs are way underrated! Nice video!

  • @cosroe2
    @cosroe2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I recently realized that I will probably not be able to become an airline pilot(which has been my dream pretty much my entire life), but watching your videos makes me realize that I can still pursue my passion through GA/helicopter flying. It's not the same but it's beautiful in its own very unique way. I can't thank you enough for the effort you put into making these videos. You truly are an inspiration for the next generation of aviators. :)

  • @Duality306
    @Duality306 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    When I was around 10 or so me and my dad and our friend got to meet and talk to Mr.Hoover at the Indy air show. He was there doing the Shriek commander display for Evergreen.....he talked to us for. Good 45 minutes telling lots of great although windy stories about him and Mr. Yeager ....what a great thing for a young aviation enthusiast to experience

  • @rachelnibarger
    @rachelnibarger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    lately, i started volunteering at the legacy flight museum. the first time i had been to the museum prior to my volunteering, i notice a familiarly yellow P51 mustang. IT WAS OLE YELLER! Bob Hoover had graciously donated his airplane to John Bagley who currently owns the aircraft. now i have taken care of that ole yeller and every spot it marks its territory.

  • @OBENSquad_21
    @OBENSquad_21 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    His a great CFI for reals.:. I like how relaxed he is ...

    • @omarquol5700
      @omarquol5700 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      O'BEN means a lot man! Thank you!!

  • @Martin-jt3zu
    @Martin-jt3zu 6 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I'm a pilot in South Africa, pretty cool to see our fellow aviators doing so well in the USA!
    You can spot that South African accent a mile away ;)

    • @Bentz5000
      @Bentz5000 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Haha, my ears caught it straight away as well. Where are you based Martin? I have a medical booked for next Friday and hopefully start PPL training soon after. I'm in PE.

    • @stephenrobertson2901
      @stephenrobertson2901 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @martin jy kan so ja! Dis amazing te sien hoe hulle in die States met ons aerie speel

    • @ricardomontalban6004
      @ricardomontalban6004 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Biltong and hippo poop

    • @zappatx
      @zappatx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'm a big fan of Eugene Terre'Blanche.. Hope you get your country back. Down with Malema!

    • @gareth69erjones
      @gareth69erjones 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Bentz5000 where in pe ? Algoa ? Madiba ?

  • @daffidavit
    @daffidavit 6 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    I know this video ended up as a carb and not an ignition problem. But I want to tell my little story and maybe someone can learn from it. A couple years ago I borrowed my buddy's 1982 C-152. My son was in the left seat and I was giving him a lesson.
    After the run-up, the mag check was perfect. During the takeoff roll but before liftoff, I looked at the tach and noticed the engine wasn't producing full power, maybe 2400 rpm. Some might attribute the low rpm to high-density altitude, but something in my gut told me otherwise. I aborted the takeoff and we taxied back.
    While taxing back at about 1000 rpm I did a simple mag check. Wouldn't you know one of the mags was dead? From the time we did the full mag check until we tried to take off, one mag died. No more than one or two minutes had elapsed.
    The lesson I learned: Trust your gut and be conservative. Always make sure you are developing full power, even if you take high-density altitude into account. A mag can die in a heartbeat, just like a person. I now do occasional mag checks at random when taxing always double checking that the mags are back on both.
    This is all the more reason to do a mag check by first going to the far mag, back to both, then the close mag, back to both. This avoids the potential of taking off on one mag by accident. Yesterday i commented on this below. Safe and happy flying everyone.

    • @ricardomontalban6004
      @ricardomontalban6004 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don’t fly a plane from 1982. If it crashes people will be like “ figures”

    • @Gameisis
      @Gameisis 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Ricardo montalban 1982 is considered newer in aviation terms. I’m training in a ‘72 Cessna 172. I would feel safe flying in a 45 club as long as it’s well maintained and passes all preflight checks.

    • @JoshuaSobel
      @JoshuaSobel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Gameisis Yeah, planes don't age like cars. It's perfectly normal to fly a '70s era plane.

    • @TheSoaringChannel
      @TheSoaringChannel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I own a motorglider and I do the same, however, I do it slightly differently. I do the mag check as you'd expect before takeoff. I check the full engine RPM as soon as its applied and watch it closely. Before shutting it down in the air I'll do one more mag check to be sure they both are still working. If I need the engine later, it's nice to know it was shut down in full working order. Note: we never use the engine as a get out of jail free card. Never.

  • @feralchimp
    @feralchimp 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Great job showing the EGT/CHT meters during that engine recheck sequence. Would have loved unfiltered cabin audio for this (rare) case.

  • @wntu4
    @wntu4 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Marvelous visibility in that cockpit.

  • @MiguelOliveira-yb6rq
    @MiguelOliveira-yb6rq 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I did my PPL in South Africa and recently I got the opportunity to fly the Sling 2 with the 912is fuel injected (and toe brakes!) when I went back to South Africa in February. It’s a great little (and efficient) aircraft and I’m glad it’s getting popular in the States! When you can see fuel touching the bottom tip of tank below the fuel cap the fuel level is at 1/2, because the tank is at an angle.

  • @jamesharkness1058
    @jamesharkness1058 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Thanks for showing and documenting the ignition problem you ran into during run up. It is good to see that things don't always go to plan, and how you worked to understand the issue to be able to explain it to the A&P mechanic. This is where having an engine monitor is very useful. Otherwise, you could only say it runs rough on the right mag. Thanks again for keeping it real!

    • @scottamolinari
      @scottamolinari 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It wasn't an ignition problem. It was a carburetor problem.

    • @jamesharkness1058
      @jamesharkness1058 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Skooppa True....it was determined to be a carb problem. Was just making the statement that the issue seem to present itself during the mag/ignition check. Had they not had an engine monitor, it would have been harder for everyone to diagnose the problem. Being a Lycoming guy, I did not realize there were two carbs on the Rotax.

    • @PistonAvatarGuy
      @PistonAvatarGuy 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just can't believe that it's 2018 and carburetors are still being sold in any kind of vehicle that's made to carry human beings, it's insane. There is the 912 iS, but it's probably pretty pricey.

    • @SmittySmithsonite
      @SmittySmithsonite 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Misinformation is rampant on the internet. Carburetors work, and have worked well for OVER a century in everything from automobiles, to boats, to motorcycles, to airplanes, to lawn equipment & other outdoor power equipment, and continue to do so, and WILL continue to do so. How did the world survive the first 84 years of the automobile on just carburetors? Well, they worked!
      Carbs get a bad rap from those who don't understand their inner workings, and the ethanol the American government mandates in motor fuel. Ethanol's love for water wreaks havoc on carburetors, yet, is less noticeable in fuel injected vehicles (makes you wonder if this was done on purpose?). That said, mechanical failures such as the float issue in this aircraft, happen occasionally. Would it be any different if a fuel injected aircraft, or automobile, experienced a computer failure, clogged injector, failed fuel pump, or chaffed / shorted wire that killed spark AND fuel? Not really. In a mechanical world, failures happen - that's why pilots train for engine-outs.
      To tell you the truth, as an auto mechanic, I trust stuff built 30-100 years ago much more than anything built today, at least regarding ground-based vehicles. I can't speak for aircraft ... although the average piston aircraft is WELL over 4 DECADES old in general aviation. Automobiles, outdoor equipment, boats, etc. etc., used to be OVER-built with pride - something sorely lacking in today's vehicles.

    • @PistonAvatarGuy
      @PistonAvatarGuy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Working and working well are two different things. I've not only been working on cars for nearly 20 years, but I started driving when many cars on the road still had carbs, I wouldn't go back to those abominations if you paid me to. Starting was always hit or miss, they GUZZLED fuel (even small, gutless engines), they stink because the mixture is never right, the engines have no power because the mixture is never right, or is inconsistent from cylinder to cylinder, they're cantankerous in varying weather conditions, the electric chokes would fail and stick closed, I've had cars die on me when going over bumps because the carb sloshes fuel from the float bowl into the engine.... the list goes on and on. Carbs should have gone extinct and been forgotten forever.
      "How did the world survive the first 84 years of the automobile on just carburetors?"
      We had nothing better at the time that was cheap. When microprocessors fell in price significantly enough, fuel injection was the only fuel delivery system that made any sense.
      Ethanol has nothing to do with how awful carbs are, and it's *your* lack of understanding that's led you to believe this.
      I'm not saying that it can't happen, but I've NEVER encountered a failure that prevented the engine from running with a fuel injection system. When built properly, electronic systems are vastly more reliable than mechanical systems.
      "To tell you the truth, as an auto mechanic, I trust stuff built 30-100 years ago much more than anything built today..."
      Do you deal with mainly American vehicles, by any chance? Modern vehicles seem to have no issue lasting two to three times longer than anything that was built 30 years ago. Hell, the cars and trucks from the '70s that I drove when I was a teenager didn't even have odometers that went past 99,999 miles, because they weren't expected to last that long. Nowadays, cars have no trouble making to 300,000 miles if properly taken care of.

  • @danieltalisveiber607
    @danieltalisveiber607 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you are honestly my favorite aviation channel of all time! I currently live in Calgary and I am a student at the Calgary flying club. I am getting my PPL and you are my main source motivation that keeps me flying and training. I learn SOOOOO MUCH from your videos! I should be flying solo by mid June and that would not be possible without your channel as you are what mainly got me into aviation. Thank you so much for motivating me to keep flying everyday. keep up the amazing work.

    • @FlightChops
      @FlightChops  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right on! Thanks for this great feedback. And congrats on your progress! If all goes according to plan June will also be a big month for me - I am hoping to be soloing the Harvard / T6 by then! YIKES!
      Keep in touch through your training.

    • @danieltalisveiber607
      @danieltalisveiber607 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's awesome! hope you are looking forward for June as much as I am. looking forward for the next video! keep up the great work.

  • @ianneub
    @ianneub 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    LSA's can be a lot of fun. I just got an RV-12 and am loving it. I'm glad you found the engine issue on the ground in the first plane.

  • @bighaasfly
    @bighaasfly 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Omar is a good instructor. 👍🏼

  • @wingnutzster
    @wingnutzster 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Proudly South African, there's an amazing story behind the design and development of the Sling. I'm more an RV man but I am proud of what the guys at Flight Factory have produced in the Sling 2 and 4

  • @oBseSsIoNPC
    @oBseSsIoNPC 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great video and real life example for how crucial detailed pre-flight checks are. nice!

  • @Lemon0Tart
    @Lemon0Tart 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Had my first ever training flight earlier this week in a Sling2, was epic fun!

  • @gregizzo8349
    @gregizzo8349 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The best way to spend 19:10 of my day! Thanks Chops, keep up the awesome video's!

    • @gareth69erjones
      @gareth69erjones 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not when you were looking for a proper engine failure and forced landing in a sling , and find this where there is a carb problem at the holding point 🙈🙈 also why did he shut down ? They still need to take it back to the hangers 🤓

  • @ShevillMathers
    @ShevillMathers 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Met Bob Hoover during his Tasmania SKYRACE flying back in the mid 90’s. Have a pic of him and my other half with Bob signing a program for me. I must have all his flying demos on S-VHS tapes, at the time I did not appreciate just how skilled and important a pilot Bob was. My video tapes of him now have a whole new meaning. Enjoying your flying stories too, well put together, informative and interesting. Regards from ‘down under’, ex RAF medic. when the Hunter, Canberra, & Lightning were leading the way in jets.🇦🇺🔭🎹📸🔬📡👍

  • @jfdoyon
    @jfdoyon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice video! I am building a Sling 4 in Ottawa :) Great flying machines!

  • @erichstocker4173
    @erichstocker4173 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video and instructive. My problem with Rotax had always been its tendency to flood if not really careful.

  • @erictaylor5462
    @erictaylor5462 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I saw Bob Hoover's power off aerobatic show live in person. It was amazing.

    • @bluehornet6752
      @bluehornet6752 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too. Saw him perform in northern Wisconsin back in the early 1980s when I had just started flying. He flew both the P-51 and the Commander that day. The dude was incredible.

  • @GaryLaaks1
    @GaryLaaks1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Flew a sling 2 last month for the first time right here in Port Elizabeth South Africa. Smooth and great experimental rated light sport aircraft. Kudos to the designers.

  • @tyronevanwyk3652
    @tyronevanwyk3652 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Steve you and Omar both wear really nice watches. Good taste👍. Nice video. Really showed me the Sling. Faster approaches than I anticipated at 70.

    • @omarquol3343
      @omarquol3343 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tyrone van Wyk hey thank you!

  • @GaryMCurran
    @GaryMCurran 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Steve, you ARE inspiring the next generation, as well as entertaining and delighting the previous generations. I've seen Bob Hoover a couple of times, his Energy Management Routine is something that every pilot should see and understand, particularly multi-engine pilots.
    If I was getting back into flying, the Sling would be an awesome 'Weekend Flyer' for that $100 hamburger up or down the coast, but obviously wouldn't be a long distance flyer. Josh Flowers also has a review of the Sling. Would be a fun airplane to own.
    Thanks for putting us in the left seat again, it's always fun to fly with you!

    • @FlightChops
      @FlightChops  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Gary!

    • @warwickkinscher5986
      @warwickkinscher5986 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gary C - I believe you’re wrong about the long distance flyer bit. We have a Sling 2 and a Sling 4 at our aero club (Ballarat, Victoria, Australia). The Sling 4 has taken a family of 4, plus their dog, plus baggage all the way to Far North Queensland and back (over 2,000 miles each way), and down the full length of western Tasmania (again, well over 500 miles) with legs in both cases limited only by “bladder capacity”. The Sling 2 has flown most of western New South Wales and northern South Australia - again with 500 to 800 miles range. Both cruise at about 115 knots. The Sling 2 burns about 19 litres = 5 gallons per hour, with 140 litres = 36 gallons on board; the Sling 4 - 115 HP Turbo Rotax - burns about 25 to 27 litres (6 to 7 gallons) per hour, with (from memory) 180 + litres = 48 gallons (?) on board. Comfortable seating, plenty of room, good overnight baggage storage and 6 hours’ cruise plus reserves on board - what more do you want?

    • @GaryMCurran
      @GaryMCurran 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@warwickkinscher5986 I don't recall the reasoning for the sentiment, but it may have been something other than fuel burn. Other factors to take into account, like comfort can come into play.
      A Cessna 172 has a 600-700 mile range, but I don't want to sit in it for five hours at a time!
      But, it's been a year ago since I posted that comment, I don't remember what it was all about, sorry.

    • @warwickkinscher5986
      @warwickkinscher5986 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gary C No problems; We also have a Cessna 172 which is a good cruiser. It’s just that I have really enjoyed flights in the two Slings, but Simon has put well over 300 hours up on his Sling 4 in the slightly less than 3 years since he completed it, flying the full length of the east coats of Australia with his family and / or friends. It’s a great all-round aircraft. But I agree - legs on a flight are governed by the needs for food and / or bladder relief rather that the aircraft’s capabilities - as long as one remembers to always check the fuel left and make sure it’s sufficient till the next fuel bowser including fuel for not only reserves but also contingencies (diversions, last light, weather, etc.)

  • @WSleeman
    @WSleeman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was taxiing behind N169TW at Zamperini about six hours ago… Cool!

  • @markthibault8579
    @markthibault8579 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wish we had the LSA category in Canada. Sadly, our Advanced Ultralight (AULA) category means we automatically lose 88 lbs of useful load due to the max gross being limited to 1232 lbs.

  • @ZacH-jj2ef
    @ZacH-jj2ef 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I currently fly the sling 2 for my RPL, sling 8489 and sling 8592 out of YBAF, it’s a great aircraft and I love going up in it.

  • @PS-Straya_M8
    @PS-Straya_M8 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    instructor has nice calm demeanour with PF

  • @SmittySmithsonite
    @SmittySmithsonite 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    If it ain't spark, it's fuel, air, or compression. 😉 Glad that happened on the run-up, and not in the air! 👍
    Great video as always. I always learn something new on each one!

  • @kh40yr
    @kh40yr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Crazy Bob Hoover!. "Gentlemen,, you have a race!!", as I grew up going to The Reno circuit every year. Heck of a show he did at Reno. Never got tired of it and always looked forward to seeing the Shrike do the things it did. We had a Mount ST Helens Volcano flights Cessna 210 loose a mag AND carb at run-up with a full load of tourists. The motor actually sputtered and died on the spot. Not good. We fetched the other one and got them there paid-for ride around the volcano.

  • @dpgriffith
    @dpgriffith 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching your videos makes me miss flying so much. II have not flown since 95. I could not afford it anymore. Keep up the great videos.

    • @EllipsisAircraft
      @EllipsisAircraft 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How about the Quickie Q1? 😮😅

  • @gerritvanrooyen1395
    @gerritvanrooyen1395 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good to see my home country South Africa in the aviation world! Really awesome little aircraft to fly

  • @saratogapilot6100
    @saratogapilot6100 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I tried a Sling LSA on a BFR last year. The engine stopped about two miles from the airport on return from a fun 90 minute flight. I got the aircraft down safely, but the owner/ instructor froze up. The problem was fuel contamination (dirt). Other than that, it was a pleasure to fly and I had never before flown in an aircraft with a canopy. Fabulous flight (aside from the engine failure).

  • @eclipser2004
    @eclipser2004 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had one side of the ignition quit in flight. 80hp Rotax 912UL. It was the wire going from the magneto to one side of the electronic ignition module. There was a connector that must have come loose somewhere inside. Never did find the break, but cut out the connector and soldered the wires directly together and it worked perfect. Had a stumble/ vibration at idle 3 years later. Changed plugs and that fixed that. Had a little rumble in cruise this year and had to rebuild the 2 carbs - O-rings on jets etc.

    • @karljames1694
      @karljames1694 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      balancing is a must on the 912. vibration kills engines

  • @TheDopestMr
    @TheDopestMr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I started my training on the sling 2 I seriously prefer it over the C172. That control stick and throttle, low wing and glass cockpit is just perfectly designed for the pilot. If I could, I definitely buy one just for fun flying

  • @commpilot
    @commpilot 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am a huge fan of your channel and a recent owner of a Baron A55. I hope that one day I will be able to fly with you. Keep it up and thank you for being an outstanding ambassador for general aviation. Dr. Daniels

  • @paulc7551
    @paulc7551 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Carb floats now have two ads on them..had exactly the same issue in a sling4. And yes we were complying with the weighing of floats in services, it just appeared one flight on closing throttle after landing...very lucky. That being said with new float (version 3) have had over 100 hours with no issues. Rotax and sling, two great products.

  • @theafricanflyer
    @theafricanflyer 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    John os the man. Great to see Steve flying the slings. Beautiful aircraft

  • @matthewvanzyl6158
    @matthewvanzyl6158 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This makes me so happy to see the sling making a name for itself. My first solo was on one here in South Africa, I've towed banners with them, instructed and had some of the best flying of my life in these aircraft. Glad you enjoyed it!

    • @andrewallen9993
      @andrewallen9993 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Matthew van Zyl And you a build it yourself if you want to!

    • @stephenrobertson2901
      @stephenrobertson2901 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Luv u dat boi

    • @jamesoren7238
      @jamesoren7238 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Flown them here in australia - absolutely cracking LSA. Gotta be honest, for recreational flying, I've been fully converted to light sports - you just can't beat burning half the amount of mogas you would avgas lol, plus you get to use your feet a lot more. Other than that, they're just fun. Dream one's a Savannah though

  • @TheMikeomg
    @TheMikeomg 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had the privilege of watching Bob Hoover fly his routine a few times also had the privilege of having him as a guest when we lived in Jamaica and he was a ferry pilot for Rockwell. it was a great gentleman an awesome pilot he had a storied career and he was as humble a man as you would ever want to meet. It greatly upset me when I learned the news of how they went after his ticket!

  • @mkfremkglmfekwgnkr1727
    @mkfremkglmfekwgnkr1727 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bob Hoover pouring a drink in the cockpit is a great video, he really understood his environment.

  • @garydell2023
    @garydell2023 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoyed the video. Flying in my neck of the woods, Zamperini. Been to many airshowstuff and watched Bob Hoover do his magic. Your being able to fly a lot of different aircraft types is good experience. Keep flying safe.

  • @billyp4850
    @billyp4850 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just saw this video, had the same thing happen to me in one of my local club's Tecnam P92s, ignition check and the left side was misfiring. Shut down, took it to the mechanic and I changed aircraft. I found out the following week that one of the ignition modules was dead, and I'm glad I made the right call.

  • @ArrowTrajectory
    @ArrowTrajectory 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I lived near Bob Hoover. He would do a loop or roll over his house in his P-51 before heading back to Torrance airport. Watched him do a dead-stick loop-to-landing there too. Smooth as glass. Godspeed, Mr. Hoover.

  • @douggrant4008
    @douggrant4008 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Not sure when this was shot, but there has been an alert service bulletin out on the carb floats for a long time. Sounds like they were not checked and/or replaced.
    There was a run of floats that flaked the outer coating and eventually saturated with fuel.

    • @LCKCU
      @LCKCU 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I used to help run this flight school and know for a fact that all carb floats were replaced per the service bulletin (which was released at least 3 years ago). In fact, this engine may have been built after that SB was released.

    • @douggrant4008
      @douggrant4008 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jordan Denitz If that is the case I would expect dirt in the bowls from fuel issues rather than the floats.

    • @LCKCU
      @LCKCU 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Doug Grant All I can say is that we complied with the original SB. But it may be an ongoing issue. I personally spent the majority of my time flying our Slings with the Rotax 912 iS. I wish engines were foolproof, but unfortunately that's not the case. But that's why we go through thorough pre-flights and run-ups.

    • @douggrant4008
      @douggrant4008 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      A part of the condition inspection is weighing the floats. It doesn't matter if the floats were replaced or not, it is still required. It shouldn't suddenly become a problem like this. That is all I will say.

    • @Aaronautics95
      @Aaronautics95 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviation/brief.aspx?ev_id=20170818X21238&key=1
      Unfortunate outcome of one of the Rotax 912s. Unclear what the primary cause was. Although there were carburator problems in the past, again due to a similar flooding issue. A real shame..

  • @michaellairson9219
    @michaellairson9219 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the nicest LSA's out there. Glass Panel is the finishing touch. Gonna have to add that to the list of dream aircraft.

  • @ghostedyoutuber263
    @ghostedyoutuber263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like his Breitling!!

  • @tomm7301
    @tomm7301 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video! I feel like I learn so much every time I watch one. Simultaneously entertaining and educational. Many thanks!

  • @jennydiazvigneault5548
    @jennydiazvigneault5548 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got to meet Mr. Hoover at Oskosh around 1982 when I was 14. He was doing a routine in a twin commander with one engine out.

  • @challengecoins4u
    @challengecoins4u 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hats off to your friend's Breitling Navitimer!

  • @MindsetMastery75
    @MindsetMastery75 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Bob Hoover Legacy Foundation are petitioning the United States Postal Service to honor Bob Hoover by issuing a commemorative postage stamp! He deserves it for sure. He was an aviation legend! Everytime you go to an airshow and watch all the aerobatics, you need to silently look up in the sky and thank Bob Hoover!

    • @ShevillMathers
      @ShevillMathers 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am one lucky aircraft enthusiast, during the 90’s I got watch and videotape the legend, Bob Hoover, flying various aircraft at SkyRace Tasmania, held for three years. A delightful man and a pilot like no other. I have a photograph of Bob signing a program for me, thanks to my better half having the ‘nerve’ to ask him. I now know so much about the legend, that I was totally ignorant of at that time. I have hours of footage, which I shot from the roof of my Toyota Land Cruiser, using some pro Sony equipment. We always had a gold pass and a prime position, so no heads getting in the way. I should really edit some clips and get them on to TH-cam. I also have some brilliant footage of Chris Sperou flying his Pitts Special inverted under a limbo line, some flights he snagged grass on his vertical stab. On one flight he landed inverted going under the limbo line. Needless to say that put a quick stop to his flying that day. Bob’s flying his twin demo, pylon racing in his T6 etc. we’re indeed magic to behold-and capture on tape. Bob is giving demonstrations and beginner classes to the angels now, and I am sure they are loving every minute of it. Down under in Tasmania-the place to be. 👍😁🇦🇺 🛩

  • @psyrixx
    @psyrixx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice. I've never had a mag problem in any of my runups. Light Sport Aircraft seem like a lot of fun! I just posted my first IFR training video to my own channel, and hope to see more IFR lessons from you as well. Keep the excellent content coming, and next time you're in the Bay Area again it'd be fun to hang out!

  • @matteolosardo
    @matteolosardo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great! The aircraft that my flight school uses for PPL Training uses the Rotax engine too! It’s a Tecnam P2002JF aircraft.. in our cockpit we have prop RPM instead of engine RPM because as the CFI said in the video, the engine has a gearbox RPM reduction

  • @jannepeltonen2036
    @jannepeltonen2036 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting thing about the tachometer, the Katana shows the reduced RPM of the prop (and not the RPM of the engine), as does the Thielert Centurion -converted C172.

    • @karljames1694
      @karljames1694 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      you can set an engine monitor to show both if it has duel tach feeds

  • @flyfish
    @flyfish 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Big thank you FlightChops for another great video

  • @SuperLIGHTNING2011
    @SuperLIGHTNING2011 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful episode , plus Flying in Mr Hoovers home town.....WOW!!!! Great descriptive flying, plus awesome landings . These videos are such a possitive support for the aviation community, as always receiving so much from your videos bro.

  • @EdgyNumber1
    @EdgyNumber1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had the joy of flying both a Tecnam Sierra -another light sport - and (under supervision) a Tecnam p2006t using Rotax units. They're not bad, Fuel injection makes life soooo much easier 👍

  • @facebook2k7
    @facebook2k7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Yeah u on the ground." THAT is a smooth greaser! 1st time ever in a Sling to boot how awesome is that?!

  • @samuel-jq9wl
    @samuel-jq9wl 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank god today has flight chops.

  • @papalegba4449
    @papalegba4449 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Always nice to hear a South African accent pop up :)

  • @CristiNeagu
    @CristiNeagu 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What little flight training i had was in a plane similar to this (in shape, not in technology), powered by a Rotax 912ULS. It's a very easy engine to manage, especially since it doesn't have a mixture control.

  • @michaelrivera6989
    @michaelrivera6989 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I watch your videos all the time. Torrance's my home base and I fly in the sling exclusively. It's awesome to see you on this video

  • @manifestgtr
    @manifestgtr หลายเดือนก่อน

    Weird that I’m seeing this now…I actually had a bad Rotax run up just yesterday in an RV-12. Our right “ignition” (they aren’t really normal mags in a 912…they’re capacitor discharge units) dropped below 300 RPM and began running a bit rough during the run up. A lot of guys would’ve said “meh” and still went but it made me uncomfortable…so we did a 180 in the run up area and that was that. You gotta respect your personal minimums and if something is out of spec, even a little bit, that’s enough for me to scrap a flight. It’s all about identifying and eliminating “holes in the Swiss cheese” before they become a factor.

  • @MrJazz1975
    @MrJazz1975 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, the mechanic really got me excited. He seems to have an absolute grasp of the subject. Considering that about 12% of aircraft accidents are MRO related, that's something where I would say I feel safe.

  • @ybotskraps3394
    @ybotskraps3394 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Flight hops because of you I head about super cubs and I searched on Up and I ended up getting a flight in it

  • @motorTranz
    @motorTranz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "It's a great day in southern California...." Got to love that southern California weather 😁

    • @LimaFoxtrot
      @LimaFoxtrot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Where we need an IR 5 minutes at a time just to pop through the marine layer.

  • @shean60
    @shean60 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sling is really an amazing aircraft to fly.

  • @279seb
    @279seb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice job Omar (sp?)! Good instruction and great in front of the camera.

  • @victory0115
    @victory0115 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Oh lol never been this early on a FlightChops Video, gotta use this opportunity now I guess... You're great steve keep it up, you really inspire me! :D

    • @FlightChops
      @FlightChops  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Haha - wow yeah - your comment was less than 1 minute after I pressed "publish" :)

    • @charleswright4323
      @charleswright4323 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Loving your videos! Chuck

  • @prof2yousmithe444
    @prof2yousmithe444 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am back! Was in the hospital for a while. Just got out. I love this Sling! I looked really touchy to fly, especially on approach.

  • @paulmakinson1965
    @paulmakinson1965 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Exactly the same thing happened to me on a Best Off Nynja with a Rotax 912 uls. On Startup, it just reeked of gasoline.. A float in one Bing carburettor sunk and gasoline overflowed. They are made of styrofoam covered in a thermoplastic. The thermoplastic punctures and the styrofoam gets saturated with gasoline. I immediately shut the fuel line and mags, and got out real fast! That comforted my habit of not buckling up until after engine startup in case of fire. It is a known problem, there was a service bulletin for it. We fixed it pretty fast, the club had the spare carburettor floats. It certainly got my heart racing. So check the SB's regularly and don't buckle up until your engine is running smoothly, there is no fire and no smoke or smell of gasoline.

  • @danejohns5042
    @danejohns5042 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've flown a sling once. 166TW with Marc Lee at KSNA. Beautiful airplane, but choose to finish my training with the original school I started with as it was part 141.

    • @omarquol3343
      @omarquol3343 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dane Johns Marc is the best in the business

    • @danejohns5042
      @danejohns5042 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Omar Quol Yes he has a great reputation and I enjoyed flying with him. But, for me, I think the structure of 141 school works better.

  • @abdullahalshehri1793
    @abdullahalshehri1793 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like his watch, that’s really beautiful breitling

    • @daffidavit
      @daffidavit 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      His Breitling Navitimer is beautiful. If I have any complaints about it, the newer ones are a little too large for my taste. Even my Omega Speedmaster, which is smaller at 42mm was considered large back in the day when I got mine in 1968. The Older Navitimer Breitlings were also 42mm but they are a little bigger now.

    • @omarquol3343
      @omarquol3343 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey thanks man, that’s really nice of you

  • @coryjohnson7025
    @coryjohnson7025 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good day Sir Chops! I love all the variety on your channel. Keep 'em coming! One thing I would like to see more of, is videos on this same subject; LSA's, ultralights, maybe even a trike. Ultralights and LSAs are a good way for the financially challenged to enjoy the thrill of aviation, and many get into certified later on. I think it is a great way to help build the GA community.

  • @mirycreek
    @mirycreek 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those rotax 912 engine are happy at 5000. The min tolerance on the cylinders is 0.00, that always blew me away, I still laugh when people say aren't those snow mobile engines lol

  • @RoryOnAir
    @RoryOnAir 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another superb video Steve. I fly an EV-97 Eurostar microlight which also has a Rotax up front. They are great engines and 100HP in a 450kg MTOW microlight is a pretty amazing power to weight ratio. Keep the vids coming - you're an inspiration for my own little channel here in the UK. (And I agree with the previous poster about a Netflix series!)

  • @Bottleworksnet
    @Bottleworksnet 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The carb float problem is THE MOST common issue with the Rotax 9xx series. It's been an issue for many years across many revisions of the floats. ...And many revised service bulletins.

  • @johnmulzoff4569
    @johnmulzoff4569 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The opened Canopy on the aircraft is really something!!! It really seems to provide both pilot & passenger 1 Hell of a view. If I had to guess I'd say those Nay Sayers that denounce the Sling as Not being a real Airplane those people are just jealous both at how easy they are to fly & the incredible view flying in 1 provides!! Great video Chops!!

  • @STBYRUD
    @STBYRUD 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the neat video once again! The Rotax is really neat until it fails without prior warning, a fellow student pilot (successfully) ditched his Katana into the Adriatic a few miles out from LDDU back in 2009...

  • @NicholasAugusta
    @NicholasAugusta 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    “Don’t over fly the airplane”. That’s sound CFI advice. Great video. Well done all around.

  • @AdamShaiken
    @AdamShaiken 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I saw Bob Hoover in person at the Fox Field Airshow in the Mojave Desert when I was 10. He was a heck a pilot with such adroit skills that he literally wore his aircraft like a superman outfit !!!

  • @Agislife1960
    @Agislife1960 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel ya on the hands thing, when I owned a Taylorcraft it was throttle right hand, control yoke left hand, when I started flying a Cessna 188 and Air Tractor 301 it was throttle left hand, control yoke right hand. After a few hours you get to where you can change between hands without even noticing it.

  • @llshamelessll
    @llshamelessll 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im reading about Bob Hoover right now....Wow! A true legend.

  • @Emipaso
    @Emipaso 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    About the very end of the vlog: I started flying in 2013, now I'm barely starting IFR, still Commercial and multi-engine to go, and time goes by and I'm working relocated two countries away from home. Feel you!

  • @loremaable
    @loremaable 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The other day a Rotax powered ultralight had an engine failure too over Reunion island.Since he could not reach the airport He had to perform an uneventful emergency landing on a strip of a beach. The overhaul had taken place a couple of weeks before.

  • @j.p.3891
    @j.p.3891 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your content man. Haven't been able to fly lately due to sultry weather so your videos are highly appreciated!

  • @mikepazzree1340
    @mikepazzree1340 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Highly recommend watching : “ Flying The Feathered Edge “, Bob Hoover , Harrison Ford , I needed a lot of tissues though.

  • @bobbyzaloski1
    @bobbyzaloski1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey man! Great video. If you ever want to come fly a weight shift control trike ( powered hang glider) in New York, let me know. I'm a CFI and fly the Adirondacks at Lake George and the beaches of the Hamptons. Blue skies!

  • @vandy750ss
    @vandy750ss 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got to fly my first Rotax earlier this year when i brought one back to Ohio from California, It was a real pleasure to fly, and the electric prop was the cats meow!

  • @jesuisravi
    @jesuisravi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    that young fight instructor is double + good

  • @Hammerhand77
    @Hammerhand77 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great one Steve. I trained at Hawthorne Airport (KHHR) and have used that practice area more times than I can count. Some days, it's incredible how many airplanes are out there at once - and mainly students! I've had a few really close calls there. If you haven't gone yet, definitely take a trip over the water to Catalina island for lunch when you're back down here. One of the best things to do here in SoCal. If you need an airplane, I can always fly ya in our Cardinal ;)
    I also didn't realize Bob Hoover lived in PV for so long... I wonder how that isn't a 101 "discovery" flight lesson for every student over the area. Sacred ground indeed. I remember I first heard of Bob Hoover when my father told me he did a cross country in a T-38 when in the Air Force to go see Hoover fly at an airshow in Florida in 1970 - one of his best memories. Thanks for the reminder and for anyone who doesn't know Bob Hoover, watch the "Flying the Feathered Edge" documentary. He was the absolute best.
    Keep it up!

  • @mworld
    @mworld 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Every time I hear 'rotate' I think of airproud95 ;)

  • @acension2118
    @acension2118 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    awesome video man impressive teacher

  • @micahfay7970
    @micahfay7970 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was amazing, great job Flight Chops!

  • @luer0211
    @luer0211 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was very interesting, Steve. I can relate as well. Over four years ago I was flying a Rotax powered Tecnam P2002jf when the same thing happened. Lost cylinders just as I had turned final however, but got to the runway safely thankfully.