I always like the "Poor Man's ..." stuff, with only a few extras the car easily hits 100k€, if you go all-out, even 150k. If that's the definition of poor, then I want to be poor :D But of course I understand that it's a bit of a joke, and compared to an EQS it's a bit more affordable of course. Anyway, thanks for all your work, you are really unique in the EV TH-camr World.
I just had vacation in Switzerland which meant doing 1000 km each way from the harbor in northern Germany (I live in Sweden). First run down took 10:35 h. Second run took 9:42 of active driving, according to the car. That was a Golf Diesel which can go about 900 km on one tank, and I had to stop each way for a few hours to get some sleep. Total trip time was both ways around 13-14 hours. Had I been in an electric car I would have used the charging time for sleeping, making up for the time "lost" due to charging. I don't really understand this argument of needing 1000 km range of an EV.. 3 hours of boring highway driving should IMO be the goal, then I can easily go for 30-40 min break. Seems like the safest option anyway. Oh, and great job @Björn Nyland for having the energy to do these trips so often. I don't know how you do it 🥇
Same here! Whenever I drive long distances - have to stop every 2-2,5 hours to go pee or get some snack. Especially if I am travelling with my family - need to take brakes
I guess whoever can afford this "poor man" SUV, can also afford the EQS, so it all comes down to the space you need or like. Sometimes size does matter :)
I like the details you showed us and comparison. You are able to use the Tesla chargers already? (Of course with the plug adapter). That’s great. I’m hoping soon this will be available in the US too. It increases the options on long trips. Thank you.
In EU Tesla Chargers/cars have same connector as all other cars, so no adapters needed. Not all, but most chargers are open for public use since a while now.
@@mafdeg That’s great. We should be able able to use the Tesla chargers in 2024 in the US. MB already providing the adapters on the 2024 models. They are also now providing the a charging cable where you only need the 220/50 AMP outlet to plug it in. Thank you
It's in German's DNA, they know how to build luxurious and comfortable cars ... at a high cost. They are not there yet for the efficiency. It is in this area that you can measure how far is Tesla. Fast and efficient affordable cars . Still a long way to go for Germans manufacturers.
Just test drove EQE yesterday. First thing I've noticed was how poor the front visibility is. The dash is way too high and a pillars are huge as well. It is almost claustrophobic. I feel like no one mentions it. Interior quality was very very nice though.
Don't listen to him. He's a German and biased towards German cars. Model Y is a very comfortable premium elektroauto with great comfort and class-leading space. Model Y is way better value for money. It also has better range, lower consumption and charges faster. But EQE is of course more comfortable and quieter. But we're talking about at least 2x the price. EQE also has less space than Model Y (banana box test coming soon).
@@bjornnyland Björn - all yes to that - I am German and I am biased. But still it's not the same category. If I look for these price/performance I would chose the Y, if its about luxury and traveling in peace - I would always go for the EQE.
Well, EQE has a newer 500A capable battery, so charges way faster. Also 22kW AC available and drivetrain improvements for better efficiency. And EQE has heatpump so in the winter consumptions won't be that bad...
The old EQC is no longer being made after 2023, I think.The new EQC might be out at end of 2024. We’ll see. There are already spy shots out there. The previous generation EQC didn’t make it to the US.
How many times ffs...The "poor mans" expression, is not to be meant literal. Its not about affordability its just a joke name for things that are the "cheaper version" of other things. EQS EQE. We all know that the EQE is pricy. Are you german? Because this is the type of humorless comments typical.
you talk about the good autopilot.. Is it the standard version or is it the premium/PLUS? dont know if its called this also i Norway? Whats your opinion vs the tesla model 3 standard autosteer?
I absolutely hate the EQE sedan but the EQE SUV is like a completely different product, utilizes space far better and looks far better. Its actually my favorite Mercedes EV so far!
@@mackan7086 Thy Y has more interior space, like the banana box test showed. What means premium? A magic word to persuade people to buy a less efficient product for more money?
@@pegefounder premium has to do with better interior materials, a more comfortable ride and a descent amount of QA to avoid embarrasing things like huge panel gaps. Huge panel gaps by the way is not just cosmetic. They tell you that the producer uses way too high tolerances when building the cars (in order to save time and money) and if they reason that way when it comes to the chassi you can be sure they reason the same way for the rest of the car, from the engine to the interior. Building cars as fast as you can with this mindset to make more money is the opposite of premium!
I drove the EQE SUV 500 recently, and have never been so disappointed by any 100k+€ car like this one: 1. Interior space: in the front, it feels like sitting in a Cessna 172, a ridiculously high dashboard, sloping upwards from the doors to the front. Destroy the usual SUV-feeling of sitting above things, here you sit behind the dashboard with limited visibility. Things worsen in the rear: seats are way too short, and steeply sloping. Not even a 14-year-old wanted to sit there. Air suspension can be noisy on poor tarmac/Beton.
Hey Bjorn, when can you test the new Volvo XC40 extended range RWD 2024 model? This looks like good competition against Audi Q4 and the Mercedes. 200 KW charge rate and 570 WLTP km.
Any references on that? Because that would surprise me a lot. You see with that higher price comes some major QA. So I would very much doubt any panel gaps on it
@@adamaufdencamp5080 th-cam.com/video/SIpXkQhq1ps/w-d-xo.html This is the news piece I watched. It says EQE 350 2023 was recalled in the US because of a software issue. It's stated at 1:38 in this video.
I always like the "Poor Man's ..." stuff, with only a few extras the car easily hits 100k€, if you go all-out, even 150k. If that's the definition of poor, then I want to be poor :D But of course I understand that it's a bit of a joke, and compared to an EQS it's a bit more affordable of course.
Anyway, thanks for all your work, you are really unique in the EV TH-camr World.
>If that's the definition of poor, then I want to be poor
In Norway you are.
Dacia Spring 1000KM challenge 🔋
He will have to take two naps
In most uncomfortable car new car of 2023...
I did it 2x times😂😂😂
@@kovaxzolikaseriously?
1 star Euroncap, maybe not, we need Bjorn to stay around a little longer
I just had vacation in Switzerland which meant doing 1000 km each way from the harbor in northern Germany (I live in Sweden).
First run down took 10:35 h. Second run took 9:42 of active driving, according to the car. That was a Golf Diesel which can go about 900 km on one tank, and I had to stop each way for a few hours to get some sleep. Total trip time was both ways around 13-14 hours. Had I been in an electric car I would have used the charging time for sleeping, making up for the time "lost" due to charging.
I don't really understand this argument of needing 1000 km range of an EV.. 3 hours of boring highway driving should IMO be the goal, then I can easily go for 30-40 min break. Seems like the safest option anyway.
Oh, and great job @Björn Nyland for having the energy to do these trips so often. I don't know how you do it 🥇
Same here! Whenever I drive long distances - have to stop every 2-2,5 hours to go pee or get some snack. Especially if I am travelling with my family - need to take brakes
@@yurikorobeinikov2195 Exactly.
If you have a family I can only imagine the in-car wars that would break out of going 9+ hours non stop in a car.
When an EV can do 1000 km on one charge, the goal post will move to 2000 km. Some people will come up with any reason to hate on EVs.
@Bjørn Nyland you missed one point, BMW iX range is greater than EQE by 60+ miles
I guess whoever can afford this "poor man" SUV, can also afford the EQS, so it all comes down to the space you need or like. Sometimes size does matter :)
How do you think xpeng g9 compares? It's about half the price right?
There has been a recall for faulty software that can shut down car while driving and one documented fire as well in the USA.
th-cam.com/video/SIpXkQhq1ps/w-d-xo.html
I like the details you showed us and comparison. You are able to use the Tesla chargers already? (Of course with the plug adapter). That’s great. I’m hoping soon this will be available in the US too. It increases the options on long trips. Thank you.
In EU Tesla Chargers/cars have same connector as all other cars, so no adapters needed. Not all, but most chargers are open for public use since a while now.
@@mafdeg That’s great. We should be able able to use the Tesla chargers in 2024 in the US. MB already providing the adapters on the 2024 models. They are also now providing the a charging cable where you only need the 220/50 AMP outlet to plug it in. Thank you
It's in German's DNA, they know how to build luxurious and comfortable cars ... at a high cost. They are not there yet for the efficiency. It is in this area that you can measure how far is Tesla. Fast and efficient affordable cars . Still a long way to go for Germans manufacturers.
Just test drove EQE yesterday. First thing I've noticed was how poor the front visibility is. The dash is way too high and a pillars are huge as well. It is almost claustrophobic. I feel like no one mentions it. Interior quality was very very nice though.
My impression is that the inside dimensions is about the same as the Tesla Model Y, and almost twice the price, still worth it? What do you think?
Nope it's not comparable to the Y, different category, the Y is an Ikea box on wheels - a good one! the EQE is a luxury SUV,
Don't listen to him. He's a German and biased towards German cars. Model Y is a very comfortable premium elektroauto with great comfort and class-leading space. Model Y is way better value for money. It also has better range, lower consumption and charges faster. But EQE is of course more comfortable and quieter. But we're talking about at least 2x the price. EQE also has less space than Model Y (banana box test coming soon).
@@bjornnyland Björn - all yes to that - I am German and I am biased. But still it's not the same category. If I look for these price/performance I would chose the Y, if its about luxury and traveling in peace - I would always go for the EQE.
@@bavariancarenthusiast2722 As a swede, you had me at IKEA!
IKEA > Mercedes
;)
@@bjornnyland Thank you for your unbiased answer and the work you're doing. I love how much into detail you go with every car.
Björn would you rather buy an EQE or Model X plaid?
btw when will there be tests for the current Model X?
I fully agree. Model X should be mention here. It looks like everyone forgot that this car exists.
Great review as usual!
How does the EQC stand vs EQE SUV? Mostly size difference or are there more things?
Well, EQE has a newer 500A capable battery, so charges way faster. Also 22kW AC available and drivetrain improvements for better efficiency. And EQE has heatpump so in the winter consumptions won't be that bad...
didn't mercedes stop making egc totally?
The old EQC is no longer being made after 2023, I think.The new EQC might be out at end of 2024. We’ll see. There are already spy shots out there. The previous generation EQC didn’t make it to the US.
"poor mans" benz eh? 1.5m nok ~133k EUR - yikes. Thats 2x a Model Y Performance or 3x a Model Y SR+ from inventory.
How many times ffs...The "poor mans" expression, is not to be meant literal. Its not about affordability its just a joke name for things that are the "cheaper version" of other things. EQS EQE.
We all know that the EQE is pricy. Are you german? Because this is the type of humorless comments typical.
But Four times better….
I don't like the Instrument Cluster - it doesn't look modern to me. Am I the only one who has this impression?
Mercedes Display always reminds me of Windows XP with all those glossy and glowing effects.
me too, christmas tree style display
When ZEEKR 001 is out officially. That could hit sweet spot. You need to test that properly. Some premium feeling with pricing closer to model Y
BMW iX 1000km in summer would be interesting, maybe even the M60?
Too small trunk and too much space in the rear seat. Needs a movable rear seat like EQB.
Nice car, just 4 or 5 more years until it's affordable.
What about X peng G9? It is also charges at 300kwh!
*kW
you talk about the good autopilot.. Is it the standard version or is it the premium/PLUS? dont know if its called this also i Norway?
Whats your opinion vs the tesla model 3 standard autosteer?
Map looks smoother :)
Great video as always Bjørn - when u use that mutch pr 100km an amg 63 suv would be a lot cheeper to drive.
Not really as you will probably be charging at home most of the time.
I absolutely hate the EQE sedan but the EQE SUV is like a completely different product, utilizes space far better and looks far better. Its actually my favorite Mercedes EV so far!
When do you sleep?
After seeing this and the banana box test, I understand what bargain the Tesla Y RWD is.
Well MY is a smaller and less premium car.
The two has completely different target groups
@@mackan7086 Thy Y has more interior space, like the banana box test showed. What means premium? A magic word to persuade people to buy a less efficient product for more money?
@@pegefounder premium has to do with better interior materials, a more comfortable ride and a descent amount of QA to avoid embarrasing things like huge panel gaps.
Huge panel gaps by the way is not just cosmetic. They tell you that the producer uses way too high tolerances when building the cars (in order to save time and money) and if they reason that way when it comes to the chassi you can be sure they reason the same way for the rest of the car, from the engine to the interior. Building cars as fast as you can with this mindset to make more money is the opposite of premium!
@@mackan7086 Oh, the panel gaps are back. List all premium cars, You know, with hold-, camp- and dogmode. That makes a difference in comfort!
@@pegefounder yeah, so does decent amount of insulation, LED matrix headlights and a good HUD
I drove the EQE SUV 500 recently, and have never been so disappointed by any 100k+€ car like this one: 1. Interior space: in the front, it feels like sitting in a Cessna 172, a ridiculously high dashboard, sloping upwards from the doors to the front. Destroy the usual SUV-feeling of sitting above things, here you sit behind the dashboard with limited visibility. Things worsen in the rear: seats are way too short, and steeply sloping. Not even a 14-year-old wanted to sit there. Air suspension can be noisy on poor tarmac/Beton.
Estimate (written) is off 😅 You mention 231 wH. You need 100 extra 😜
Man I was hoping you'd do a sleeping test in it as well. Maybe next time.
Bit optimistic with 230wh/km 😂😂, I think you meant 330wh/km…
I guessed same time before you said it!!! 😊
Hey Bjorn, when can you test the new Volvo XC40 extended range RWD 2024 model? This looks like good competition against Audi Q4 and the Mercedes. 200 KW charge rate and 570 WLTP km.
Panel gaps … 😂🤣😂!!!
Any references on that? Because that would surprise me a lot.
You see with that higher price comes some major QA. So I would very much doubt any panel gaps on it
That's really really high consumption 😮
Look at the huge wheels for starters
Env200 40kWh 1000km challenge 😊
BYD Atto 3 / Dolphin 1000km challenge
Not that excellent price...
Very glad to hear that the Lotus Eletre smaches all the rest. I’m waiting for my Eletre to be delivered soon 😊
Alpitronic ftw
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Tesla Model X challenge🤞
Nice ioniq 5 rims 😂
Dude, be careful with the EQE 350 over night. They just recalled them in the US because it burned up a couple of houses in the Florida heat.
I own an EQE SUV. No recall notice received. Can you point it to me?
@@adamaufdencamp5080 th-cam.com/video/SIpXkQhq1ps/w-d-xo.html
This is the news piece I watched. It says EQE 350 2023 was recalled in the US because of a software issue. It's stated at 1:38 in this video.
30,6. Its ridicolous
Luxury hightech cruise ship
Looking forward to MG4 XPower review!
How is the baby doin?
New Tesla Y Standard range 2023 (RWD) 1000 km challenge 🔋🪫 it's cheap- 38.000€ and economical.
TB has done it.
this cockpit and this software surface is terrible ^^
Model Y did it 15 min faster… in winter…
My E63s AMG can smoke that car at any time...
Because there is no smoke coming out of this one. You can out-smoke any EV 😂
it is kind of obvious that it will always smoke the EQE since you have tailpipes....
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