Can I Survive A Road Race On A Gravel Bike?

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  • Gravel bikes. They are fast, light and versatile. The true do-it-all bike! But can they truly do it all? Can a gravel bike keep up in a road race? To find out, we sent Conor to Thruxton Circuit to enter a crit race on his Orbea Terra gravel bike. With 40mm gravel tyres, a single 40T chainring on the front, 10-42 cassette on the rear and MTB pedals, how long can he survive in this race?
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  • @gcn
    @gcn  ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Have you ever entered a road race on a gravel bike? 🚴 Let us know in the comments below! 👇

    • @YippeeSkippie426
      @YippeeSkippie426 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      At the time I was riding seriously, "gravel bikes" were cyclocross bikes. Still didn't think of doing this though, lol.
      Well done, mate! btw, where did you finish? You weren't last, so...

    • @jacksonbangs6603
      @jacksonbangs6603 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, my first ever road race I entered was done on a Specialized Hard Rock mountain bike. I never trained for the race or even prepared for it. Obviously I lost, but the other riders on full carbon road bikes were surprised that I even finished the race.

    • @cleekmaker00
      @cleekmaker00 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I once rode a Touring bike in a Criterium... my first one! I did finish, though. 😋

    • @kpsig
      @kpsig ปีที่แล้ว

      I always participate in road events using my CX with some cheap carbon rims with 28mm tires on latex tubes, a 120mm stem vs the 90mm original and some pedals. During winter, I convert it to a pure CX and off we go in the mud. Focus Mares Carbon 105, 2017.

    • @aarondcmedia9585
      @aarondcmedia9585 ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven't but I might if the Hell of the West is on gravel again this year.

  • @KeatB
    @KeatB ปีที่แล้ว +453

    “Can an ex world tour pro hang on to Cat 3 weekend warriors?” , not sure you needed a video to answer that.

    • @nluisa
      @nluisa ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Yes, which inevitably makes me think how the gear is so overated in comparison to individual fitness. Regardless of how the industry (and fellow riders) insists it is the bike holding riders back.
      PS: I do agree a 15kg bike or the wrong gears/tyres will hold anyone back. Or things like the eurobike.

    • @aarondcmedia9585
      @aarondcmedia9585 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Informercial gotta informercial.

    • @conordunne1
      @conordunne1 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      P.s I was giving this a good go to try and get a result on the gravel bike too, think I finished around 60/70th in end. Maybe worth a retry on a road bike to see how the result compares

    • @KeatB
      @KeatB ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@conordunne1 fair enough, but in truth, at that level the only real difference was wheels and tyres. I have those cincurato H tyres on my gravel bike and they’re awesome for tarmac.

    • @Rob6020
      @Rob6020 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A question not asked is which grade would you normally enter? Did you drop down a grade?

  • @natureshamy
    @natureshamy ปีที่แล้ว +10

    6:51 mate was eyeing Connor's tires and you could see the disappointment in his face. 😂

  • @Undadawg87
    @Undadawg87 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I've owned a gravel bike for a few years now and love it. I have two sets of wheels; road and off-road. I've used it for group road rides, family rides, gravel rides, and city commutes. Gravel bikes can be a great do-it-all bike for those who can only afford one bike.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That really is one bike to rule them all 🙌

  • @333wheeler
    @333wheeler ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Looked like a sit in sprinter circuit .. All the 3rd cats love those. Position on the bike and fitness experience at that level counts more than equipment . Ex pro will easily survive. :)

  • @ashleyhouse9690
    @ashleyhouse9690 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    A gravel bike is just an endurance geometry bike with wider tyres. If you can't keep up with your mates with 28mm road tyres fitted, it's not about the bike.

  • @jeffreywilliams3646
    @jeffreywilliams3646 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    It would be interesting for Conor to show up the next time with a road bike and compare the results.

    • @sohlbergk
      @sohlbergk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My thoughts exactly. It's not possible to do a perfect "control experiment", but it s interesting to contemplate how he would have done on a good road bike.

    • @Philatlondon1
      @Philatlondon1 ปีที่แล้ว

      It wouldn't really be a fair race. Talk about a ringer!

    • @bernardo9202
      @bernardo9202 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      just need to change the tires not the bike

    • @garyeanes4747
      @garyeanes4747 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only advantage I see with the dedicated road setup would be if one was trying to break away solo or win a sprint. In the group, the draft pretty much makes hanging with the group pretty easy on those CinturatoH tires. At least that's my experience.

    • @bernardo9202
      @bernardo9202 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@garyeanes4747 well if are entering a race, you probably want to win, so less dragging resistance, less effort to get to speed in the pack out of corners and on attacking. Any help is a must. So that, only advantage, is a pretty big one tbf.

  • @ryuujinusa
    @ryuujinusa ปีที่แล้ว +8

    More racing please. Road, gravel, TT, anything.

  • @nwhiting84
    @nwhiting84 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I agree! I use my Scott Addict CX for everything: crit racing, longer road rides, gravel, and of course CX. I do have two sets of wheels and cassettes (chain, too). One bike to do it all.

    • @kpsig
      @kpsig ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I do almost the same here in Hamburg with a Focus Mares Carbon disk, 105, 2017. I am on the limit with the chain but I am good for now.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Love to hear it! You're getting your money's worth out of that bike 🎉

  • @CarlBaravelli
    @CarlBaravelli ปีที่แล้ว +26

    It likely does not hinder being an ex tdf world tour rider in a cat 3 race 😊

  • @jons78733
    @jons78733 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I’m running a 10-42 rear and a 44 front ring. It gives me the top-end speed on the flats and gives me the ability to find a comfortable gear ratio in nearly any scenario. That’s on my gravel bike. It has gotten me thinking about building up a road bike with a similar setup.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting! Do you think you favour a more spinny gear?

    • @jons78733
      @jons78733 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gcn - I’m an older man, 61, and live in a hilly area of central Texas. I ride all types of terrain and surfaces. I race gravel events and train mainly on chip seal or asphalt. There are places where I can spin it up a bit but, my riding contains a bit of everything. Keeps it interesting…….

    • @peteevans2256
      @peteevans2256 ปีที่แล้ว

      Think Connor's chin finished that race 3 minutes before the rest of him crossed the line 😅

  • @ericlundquisthere
    @ericlundquisthere ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I've got a Norco gravel bike with a GRX groupset, 46-30 chainrings with 10-speed 11-36 cassette, and 38mm tires. I do still want to get some thinner road-specific wheels for the summer road rides, but I'm really happy to see that something even more gravel-focused than mine can hang on in a tarmac race!

    • @gcn
      @gcn  ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not all about the bike and you'll be amazed what you can do with the bike you have 🙌

    • @sethmichael8188
      @sethmichael8188 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a grx 30/46 with 11-34 cassette.. its a fantastic bike for long days, I have a 2021 cannondale aluminum topstone 38mm specialized pathfinder pros. Good fast rolling tires. They just don't corner well on tarmac.. little unsettling. But i do like the design of those pirelli's on Connors orbea. Such a sweet ride.

    • @patrickbourbeau4248
      @patrickbourbeau4248 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I also have a Norco gravel bike I am guessing we two have the Search model? Mine is a 2021. Before switching to road tire, did you experiment with different tire pressure on tarmac? There is a good difference between 60% pressure vs 90%. give it a try!

  • @davidhenry5925
    @davidhenry5925 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Not surprised that Connor could hang with them. I suspect that the gearing rather than the tires are what held him back. Nice ride Connor!

  • @MP-th4nx
    @MP-th4nx ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Well done Conor. I ride with my mates who all have road bikes with my Titanium All Road "Curve Belgie Spirit" and keep up no problems .... I prefer this bike to my other road bikes.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  ปีที่แล้ว

      That is one nice bike 😍 Is it in the bike vault? We would love to see it 👉 gcn.eu/app

  • @jEsperesence
    @jEsperesence ปีที่แล้ว +2

    🚴🏽🚴🏼‍♂️🚴🏼‍♀️ Next Race! GRAVEL VS. ENDURANCE bikes on different popular tyre sizes! Both gravel and road! Lots of talk between these two format bikes! Pleeeeeeeaaaaassseee! 😊

  • @salzhaltigersalzhaufen586
    @salzhaltigersalzhaufen586 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gravel bikes are awesome I just recently like 2 months ago bought one and its been fantastic so far got me bikepacking even though it was freezing cold and I can do all my MTB trails on it and have way more fun on my way to and from the trails
    Not as fast on trails obviously but currently I´m also just running 35mil tyres so I have to be a little bit careful but it still loads of fun

  • @HeinrichSilvia
    @HeinrichSilvia ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love my Gravel Bike... It was a good buy a few years ago. For Berlin and it's outskirts a solid choice. Having the best of both worlds? Not so much, but at least it's good in both of them and that's good enough for me.

  • @alastairgain4924
    @alastairgain4924 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a 44 front ring and run on 47mm Byway WTB tyres and it is fast, with the right tyre pressure I’ve ridden my gravel bike at over 20mph av for over an hour, but mostly it’s not about all out speed on the road, it is an exciting bike to ride, really opens the world up to go where you want, it is the perfect all round bike, love it

  • @LHTkayaksport
    @LHTkayaksport ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For my gravel bike i use specialized pathfinder which aare very good as the have low drag running through the middle.

  • @Aragorn.Strider
    @Aragorn.Strider ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice to see as I have the same tires as yours. I didn't know they were that good

  • @bubblesezblonde
    @bubblesezblonde ปีที่แล้ว +3

    CONER!!!!WELLDONE!!! I loved the bid but to be honest I wouls also like to see a race like this using road tyres. Stoked that you are going to compete in the World Championship Gravel Event, the Outbound! For your recovery meal might I suggest the Commercial Diner in Emporia? Their biscuits and gravy are legendary!!!!

    • @gcn
      @gcn  ปีที่แล้ว

      We'll make sure Conor sees this... any chance for food, he's down 😂

  • @Meta-Drew
    @Meta-Drew ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Wow, very surprising, I thought if you rode a gravel bike on pavement they would burst into flames, amazing that that a bicycle can be used as a bike.

  • @nickstahl6672
    @nickstahl6672 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm thinking of getting the Orbea Terra H30 but add a second set of wheels to scratch the road itch. Wanted to get the Orca at first but realized that I'll be more flexible with a gravel bike plus I'm just riding to keep fit and enjoy the sun. No chasing PBs anymore. The Terra will allow me to take advantage of the trails in the woods around my house.

    • @darrin2382
      @darrin2382 ปีที่แล้ว

      just get two sets of tyres one gravel and one road

    • @gcn
      @gcn  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A gravel bike is a great choice! Alex has done exactly what you want to do in this video 👉th-cam.com/video/ZtuWYiWRcwE/w-d-xo.html

  • @jonasvieth
    @jonasvieth ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What was he smoking when fitting those tires? 😄 Rule 40 Conor, tires are to be mounted with the label centered over the valve stem. Or do you want to trigger Ollie? 😉

  • @OnkelHucke
    @OnkelHucke ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I started cycling with a self build 105 road bike that weight in at about 8.2kg. But the roads here are so bad it wasnt fun riding around on 25er tires at 8 bar. So I went and build up a gravel bike. It weights about 10kg and has 42mil tires. But it feels so much better on the roads around here in Mainz, Germany. Those things are the fat mans roadbike. Mine is certified to a maximum load of 150kg. 😁

    • @tedwinkelbeiner8856
      @tedwinkelbeiner8856 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds like a Cannondale Topstone. Same here 😉

    • @matthewcleary1848
      @matthewcleary1848 ปีที่แล้ว

      I read this more and more. It seems almost everyone has rough/bad roads! Unless you’re blessed with smooth, new pavement the “gravel” bikes, or gravel tires on a road bike, appear to be the way to go for a lot of people.

  • @silverburn55
    @silverburn55 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Nobody gonna ask about the ground-level helicopter, huh?

  • @maxsievers8251
    @maxsievers8251 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As properly tested by Jan Heine wider tyres roll easier up to 25 mm. And from there up to at least 54 mm the tyres have the same rolling resistance on smooth tarmac.
    This was tested with a rider. All tests without a rider are pointless as most of the suspension losses occur in the rider's body. Heine's tests rolling down a hill and riding with the same power even take in account for the aerodynamic drag but with non-aero wheels. On rougher surfaces wider tyres win.

  • @DavidMackenzie
    @DavidMackenzie ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great to see you in the mix racing, Conner. Well done.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Would you like to see more race content from Conor? 👀

    • @DavidMackenzie
      @DavidMackenzie ปีที่แล้ว

      @Global Cycling Network I am more of a bike packing fan so I've enjoyed his Slow Pro rides.

  • @diverron1
    @diverron1 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    This will help decide that my next bike will be gravel, even though I go on a lot of roads. I am not a racer, so don’t care about high speed. Just a normal hobby cyclist who rides for exercise.

    • @andrei-desu5361
      @andrei-desu5361 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Gravel bikes are the best. Offroad, tarmac, or wet conditions it can do it all!

    • @patoberli
      @patoberli ปีที่แล้ว +4

      More relaxed sitting, better shock absorption, mounting options for bags, if needed, more robust. Those were the main reasons why I got me a gravel bike, but switched to road tires, as I have an MTB for all offroad tasks :)

  • @Skaughtto
    @Skaughtto ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your seatpost height looks like it would be up to my eyeballs 😂

  • @238949
    @238949 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great ride Conor, you looked right at home there :) x

  • @AlistairLattimore
    @AlistairLattimore ปีที่แล้ว +13

    BicycleRollingResistance will give you a good guide on the impact of gravel tires, but I think a follow up video would be interesting to do 250w in the current gravel setup and swap the tires (same rims) over to a set of Conti GP5000 over 5km. If you only wanted or could afford a single bike but wanted flexibility, some off-road, maybe touring, some road racing - it can be accomplished with a swap of tires?

    • @jamesmckenzie3532
      @jamesmckenzie3532 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The answer is yes. I'm riding a Grevil with Reynolds AR-29 rims with Vitorria Corsa N.EXT 28 mm tires for toad and Stan's with Panaracer SK 43s for gravel. Been doing this for several years.

    • @maxsievers8251
      @maxsievers8251 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      As properly tested by Jan Heine wider tyres roll easier up to 25 mm. And from there up to at least 54 mm the tyres have the same rolling resistance on smooth tarmac.
      This was tested with a rider. All tests without a rider are pointless as most of the suspension losses occur in the rider's body. Heine's tests rolling down a hill and riding with the same power even take in account for the aerodynamic drag but with non-aero wheels. On rougher surfaces wider tyres win.

    • @CharlesWestinghIII
      @CharlesWestinghIII ปีที่แล้ว

      The critical issue is tire pressure. You want that to be perfect for your weight and the average terrain you’ll be riding. And that’s not what’s ideal for smooth tarmac. In a gravel race some tarmac sections will rarely prove to be a problem but rather if you got the tire pressure wrong for the rougher sections.

  • @markhaneklaus282
    @markhaneklaus282 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like the intro when Connor is dropped by the big block.......helps me to get back on the track after two surgeries , thank you

  • @trimmxx2169
    @trimmxx2169 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I raced there with him and fair play it was a spicy affair well done buddy 👏

  • @sparkmakerlab8158
    @sparkmakerlab8158 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You just keep producing videos I need! In 4 weeks I am planning to survive a road race on a gravel bike. :D

    • @gcn
      @gcn  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We must be mid readers 👀 Good luck!!! Are you changes anything on your bike for the race? 💨

    • @sparkmakerlab8158
      @sparkmakerlab8158 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gcn - indeed! Thanks! Yes, I will replace the tyres to Continentral GP 5000s (28 mm) and install road specific clipless Shimano pedals to go with my new road shoes. I will have to survive 128 km with 2 months intensive training under my belt. Aiming at around 4 hours finish time, ideally. It will be (and already has been) a fantastic learning experience.

  • @cb6866
    @cb6866 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Conor. It ain't the bike , boss ! In my OAF and SAF opinion , it's the rider . Prime mover

  • @MrJhamil05
    @MrJhamil05 ปีที่แล้ว

    Conor, great job. Gravel bikes are the best. I am not into Road races but I have always believed that they are the only bike needed by most riders

  • @GuidoRowe
    @GuidoRowe ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good to see some ACU lads cutting about

  • @julianallen515
    @julianallen515 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done, Conor, that'll silence Oli's smug laugh! Glad to see that Conor's wife got to choose the paint scheme for his Terra, subtle AND classy!

  • @malfoy816
    @malfoy816 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve never attended a race with a/my gravel bike but gotta say I use it in all terrain. That’s not always the best for the tires, but it works pretty good and I’m still fast! And now that’s spring I can go into the forests and wilds with my gravel b 🙃 also now it’s getting better in weather conditions I can get my road bike back on track 😛

  • @brizzie2009
    @brizzie2009 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never in doubt Conor!!!

  • @mozarthecht
    @mozarthecht ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was on a road race yesterday with my gravel bike but with road tires. Because of my gear ratio i could climb up every hill. Not everybody was able to ride up the verry steep section with up to 23%. so i would say it depends. 🙂

    • @WoolyChewbakker
      @WoolyChewbakker 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      “depends”. Don’t you find those in swimming pools 😊

  • @tinglydingle
    @tinglydingle ปีที่แล้ว

    Some road wheels with 28mm slicks and a tighter cassette, and a 52 tooth chainring; you've got yourself a crit weapon

  • @gearknobz
    @gearknobz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Redo with a handlebar bag fitted😅

  • @timotius
    @timotius ปีที่แล้ว

    Ollie's evil laugh at the beginning of the video. 😂😂

  • @andywillis3723
    @andywillis3723 ปีที่แล้ว

    The San Marcos, California Belgian Waffle Ride, wafer 79 mile edition 2023. I completed it within the time limit 10 hours and some minutes. Soaked in epsom salt bath, chiropractic adjustment, and massage day after felt great, beautiful ride and hope to attend more. Best to all wishing you all safe enjoyment and scenic rides!

  • @EnduroPo30
    @EnduroPo30 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a gravel frameset or more like an endurance frame that can handle 50mm tyres. I got deep wheels, 32 mm Road tyres and its perfect. Just swap the wheels, 45 mm gravel tyres and it's a perfect bikes for both worlds.

  • @roypennock8046
    @roypennock8046 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just completed my first-ever cycling event, a 164km, 1780m Gran Fondo at the tender age of 49 on a 30 year old steel 26" mountain bike. Looking forward to trying it again but I hope to have a gravel bike before I do!

  • @jonathanmyers5883
    @jonathanmyers5883 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Trek Domane that I consider a gravel bike. I race road, gravel, and even CX on it. The one race I won the past 2 years was a gravel race!

  • @MiataBRG
    @MiataBRG ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is useful for showing that you don't need one bike for every eventuality. It always used to be that way. I've used my aero road bike on a section of gravel & forest track for years as part of my standard training ride, never even had a puncture.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  ปีที่แล้ว

      One bike really can do it all! Do you think you would want to go for a gravel bike if you were doing more forest tracks? 👀

  • @tomquimby8669
    @tomquimby8669 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If roadies want to ride offroad there are bikes called MTBs they do the job very well.

    • @2321brendan
      @2321brendan ปีที่แล้ว

      can you do 40kph on the flat tarmac to get to the offroad bit with the MTB?Then get to the offroad, and get sketchy as hell pushing the skinny tyres to the limit of grip, on single track that would be boring on a full squish MTB?This is how you use the Gravel Bike.

  • @filippopogacar
    @filippopogacar ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Conor

  • @geoffreyhoney122
    @geoffreyhoney122 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stellar content again gcn! Well done Conor! You have demonstrated what Jan Heine of René Herse Tires has been saying for years. Wider tires do not slow you down!

    • @gcn
      @gcn  ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe we should Invite Jan onto the show 👀

    • @geoffreyhoney122
      @geoffreyhoney122 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Global Cycling Network YES! He has been great at debunking tire width myths! Quite articulate. Please have him on. Great insights on tire pressure too!

  • @MrG-ed9ke
    @MrG-ed9ke ปีที่แล้ว

    Reminds me of that meme where there is a fox sitting in a pack of hunting beagles trying to blend in 😁😄

  • @oneilwolfe407
    @oneilwolfe407 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alex and Ollie should have given Conor at least a 50 50 chance. Great video love it and I was there watching

  • @brentperez4700
    @brentperez4700 ปีที่แล้ว

    That bike is just huge!

  • @Skaughtto
    @Skaughtto ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What are you doing out in the wind?! You have the aerodynamic profile of an upright mattress. Good work on the race 👏💪👍

  • @marksIItimewarps
    @marksIItimewarps ปีที่แล้ว

    Never been in a race but I train in a nearby circuit where junior racers also train on their race-setup road bikes. I ride a 40 lb gravel bike setup as commuter/utility with cheap and heavy touring accessories. I can't drop them in the first 30 minutes. I'll be 'leap-frogging' them on the next set. And finally dropping/leading them if they extend their ride past 1 hr. Some of them, thinks I'm on EPO🤣Crit races, sprints, short hillclimbs, maybe no for gravel bike. But on races that can be won with long and constant efforts, possibly winnable on a gravel bike with good training and nutrition.

  • @paulwestwood3895
    @paulwestwood3895 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant..... What were your tyre pressures for the tarmac please?

  • @jeremysweeten2792
    @jeremysweeten2792 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is becoming a reality more often at local race and crits. Gravel bikes are FAST. We need to stop pretending we need a particular bike for every particular situation. The technology is simply closing most gaps. WIN for RIDERS!

  • @nerigarcia7116
    @nerigarcia7116 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have Speedvagen Rugged Road which is basically a gravel bike but I set it up as an all-road with 35c slick tires. I've started using this as my all-arounder and have even taken it on my club group rides amongst all the carbon race bikes. It does make me work that little bit more to keep pace but it can keep pace and I'm pretty sure my ride is a lot more comfy. I do think that the sluggishness is due to the tires, but maybe more my legs. Although, I still think my carbon BMC Team Machine is a lot more efficient and is about 3 pounds lighter which makes it easier for me to maintain speed for less effort.

    • @michadebicki6534
      @michadebicki6534 ปีที่แล้ว

      Weight doesn't matter at all, especially for maintaining speed. You can lose/gain much more than 3 pounds of bodyweight just from water and diet alone during the single raceday. Sometimes when the machine FEELS faster doesn't mean that it really is faster. Tires and position on the bike matters the most in my experience.

    • @nerigarcia7116
      @nerigarcia7116 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michadebicki6534 True. I was talking more upon acceleration and responsiveness my lighter bike is quicker to get going so as a whole during a ride it is faster than my other one. I can get them going the same speed but one is more efficient than the other.

  • @KiranMachiraju
    @KiranMachiraju ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The gravel bike was cool. You should have gotten off and onto the track as the crow flies to finish first instead of taking every turn.

  • @dalis994
    @dalis994 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly, it would never occur to me to do a road race with those tires unless for a training purposes. :-) but well done.

  • @bikeskimawk670
    @bikeskimawk670 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done Connor.

  • @billcodey1430
    @billcodey1430 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That gopro killed his aero. 🙂

  • @Huneidu
    @Huneidu ปีที่แล้ว

    Go Conor gravel bike hero!

  • @antichraldo
    @antichraldo ปีที่แล้ว

    I run a scott gravel addict 20 as a roadbike with 28 mm slick tyers. 1x42t 10...44 and ita complete fine. Sure crit racing might not be on the cards - you start to spin out at 45...50 km/h but in terms if any road biking its more than fine. Only weak link tbh are long high gradient ascents as something like 36t chainring would be more comfortable but there are non where i live.

  • @Trancefreakeh
    @Trancefreakeh ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mmm. Not sure what got tested here but for the cost and ease, please adapt the tires to your ride surface. I mean, I get not wanting to have multiple bikes; but Shirley you can swap the tires? Its what, 80 euros more?

    • @BikePappy
      @BikePappy ปีที่แล้ว

      Conor will henceforth be known as “Shirley”.

  • @mntbikeloui4087
    @mntbikeloui4087 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love to show up to a road ride and ask if this is a gravel ride! Although I haven't done a road race, I have done many road rides on my canyon grail cf8 slx and pulled many a roady and come in far ahead, and they are always like "Wow, and you on a gravel bike!" But no matter the bike, it's about getting out and having fun!

  • @chrismoss7992
    @chrismoss7992 ปีที่แล้ว

    The roads are so bad I use my gravel bike on the road way more than my road bike. I smash past virtually everyone. Comfort does produce performance.

  • @steffenrieber7901
    @steffenrieber7901 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Conor Dunne: I would have loved to see you riding this race in full Gravel mode which means: Gravel bike, handlebar bag (we are used to see you with this bag) and an flannels shirt. But most importantly with the handlebar bag installed - it‘s not you without this bag!😂

  • @user-ij7rb2wu9o
    @user-ij7rb2wu9o 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    29 light weight Hardtail and Roadbike, you don't need anything more.

  • @a1white
    @a1white ปีที่แล้ว

    Impressive, Conor. Tbh, I didn’t think a 40 tooth chain ring would have a chance! Maybe I need to reevaluate my opinion on 1x set-ups.

  • @silverburn55
    @silverburn55 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol - look at that saddle angle!

  • @kevin._.farren
    @kevin._.farren ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can you do a video on rolling resistance where you test different types of tires on the same set up? Curious just how much it equates to.

    • @dutchalltheway
      @dutchalltheway ปีที่แล้ว

      There’s a website for it

    • @maxsievers8251
      @maxsievers8251 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As properly tested by Jan Heine wider tyres roll easier up to 25 mm. And from there up to at least 54 mm the tyres have the same rolling resistance on smooth tarmac.
      This was tested with a rider. All tests without a rider are pointless as most of the suspension losses occur in the rider's body. Heine's tests rolling down a hill and riding with the same power even take in account for the aerodynamic drag but with non-aero wheels. On rougher surfaces wider tyres win.

  • @braggland8451
    @braggland8451 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s not the bike it is the motor.

  • @nicolasledoux355
    @nicolasledoux355 ปีที่แล้ว

    Using a cyclocross bike as a road/tri/gravel bike (with 28mm/42mm tires and 40x11-36). Good enough on flat/uphill but sometimes get dropped on group-ride downhill... which is OK because I ride with friends and don't care about being competitive. Considering a bigger chainring/cassette though.

  • @drivemenuts3011
    @drivemenuts3011 ปีที่แล้ว

    The gearing in this video allows for a speed of 47.5kph pedalling at 90RPM.
    For a moderately powerful person with better tyres it would be 'okay ish' on a flat track with no wind.
    But if there is a 1% downhill or tailwind on any part of the track, then your legs will spin out.
    The GRX 1x has 40T (shown in this video) and 42Teeth option.
    The bike in this video should really have had GRX 2x with 46 Teeth the larger chain ring. With a 10 tooth Cassette that would get you 57kph.
    GRX 2x is a necessity if you want diverse riding (i.e. both gravel and road).
    Conventional 50/34 (compact) will 11-34 cassette gets you 54.0kph at 90RPM.

  • @aa401nd
    @aa401nd ปีที่แล้ว

    It was great to see these images from the inside of the race! 👍 Why don't they do the same in Pro races?🤔

  • @tomgilfedder5810
    @tomgilfedder5810 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Next week 32mm slicks!

  • @naciofan11
    @naciofan11 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been riding this bike for 7 years now! th-cam.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L It was a great bike the day I got it, put it together, and went on my first ride; more importantly it's an even better bike today. I've ridden trails, street, and skatepark all on this bike. I have replaced almost every part on the bike. Some stuff has broken: derailleurs, wheels, shifter. Everything else were upgrades. The only ramaing original parts are the frame, bottom bracket, and crank set. BB and cranks will be upgraded soon. The geometry isn't great but that is really the only draw back to how good a value this bike is. Even after all the money I've spent upgrading it's still a more affordable bike than I'd have bought from a proper bike shop, especially with full suspension. I've also learned a lot about bikes working on it over the years. It really is one of the best perchases I've ever made and hopefully it'll still be around for another 7 years.

  • @cccycling5835
    @cccycling5835 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've gotten my stock Grizl CF up to 34mph so far, taking #2 on my local racer segment on strava. I think in short bursts they are almost as fast 98%. Over time you can certainly feel the rolling resistance from the center lugs. I wonder if new semi-slick gravel tires will be faster on the tarmac also...🤔

    • @gcn
      @gcn  ปีที่แล้ว

      Now need to find that 2% to get the KOM 😉

    • @adam-qu6dh
      @adam-qu6dh ปีที่แล้ว

      what is your setup? or you are stick with the stock setup, which is?

  • @frankfazio
    @frankfazio ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Of course your 1X and the internally routed cables made your bike to most aero of the bunch :)

    • @gcn
      @gcn  ปีที่แล้ว

      Aero is everything 🙌

  • @ACTIVEPAIR
    @ACTIVEPAIR ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m doing my first 10 mile TT aged 57 on my 700x47 Gravel bike tomorrow 😮😂

  • @peterleffler2062
    @peterleffler2062 ปีที่แล้ว

    So fair play to you and the bike Connor, but where did you finish? How big was the field.

  • @magicknight8412
    @magicknight8412 ปีที่แล้ว

    Connor is a strong damn good rider, a gravel bike will not be the best but I am not surprised how well he did!

  • @Risayogi
    @Risayogi ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What I’m more interested is, I noticed that you were using MTB SPD pedals. How did it feel compared to road pedals on road racing scenario? I’m considering switching to SPD pedal because of the convenient of walking on MTB shoes.

    • @jmk8246
      @jmk8246 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have ridden with SPD pedals on my road bike for years. Commuting in London, the need for clipping in and out quickly and the obvious walking advantages. I commute 50km a day and have completed Gran Fondos up to 350km and never experienced any issues.
      I'll admit there is more adjustability with SPD-SL, maybe I've been lucky, but I use Shimano XC7 shoes with XT pedals and besides the occasional snobbish look (very rare I might add), they do me fine.

    • @chickenpoodle
      @chickenpoodle ปีที่แล้ว +3

      the biggest difference between SPD and SPD SL is the contact patch between your shoe and pedal body for the support. but if you have a SPD pedal with a large pedal body, and a shoe that interfaces well (in terms of the rubber treads and lugs under the shoe), then it'll perform just as well as SPD SL (other than hauling around extra weight with heavier shoes). i say only shoe, since there are a few SPD pedal options which weigh similar to SPD SL pedals (such as the shimano a600, es600, time also makes one, but is long discontinued, along with the a600 shimano pedal).
      after using SPD SL and SPD, i've long since reverted to just using SPD across all my bikes, so i can wear any of my shoes with any of my bikes. i have the double sided ones on the single speed, or do-everything-bike, and on the fast road bike, i have the light weight shimano a600s

  • @redbol1
    @redbol1 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you GCN my next project will be a gravel bike :)

    • @gcn
      @gcn  ปีที่แล้ว

      Great! Remember to post it in the GCN app so we can all have a look!

  • @jw3638
    @jw3638 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not surprised. I get dropped by stronger riders all the time, regardless of what type of bike their on. 😅

  • @sambarbour2321
    @sambarbour2321 ปีที่แล้ว

    Go on Felix lad

  • @AleksiJoensuu
    @AleksiJoensuu ปีที่แล้ว

    Conor is pretty easy to spot in a group :D

  • @jeffhunter007
    @jeffhunter007 ปีที่แล้ว

    I tried a MTB race with a hybrid-commuter bike, just to see if it could be done. Gears and tires were lacking, but I/it finished in the pack.

  • @franckbrunie4759
    @franckbrunie4759 ปีที่แล้ว

    A few years ago, we welcomed a new member in our road cycling club. He came along the first time with his touring/trekking bike with luggage rack, mud guards, etc. We told him "are you sure? It will be 100km to day, a quite a pace?". Not only could he keep up with the pace, but he left all of us far behind on long uphills. For we it would be more interesting to know what is the power loss on a gravel bike compared to a comparably equipped road bike.

    • @maxsievers8251
      @maxsievers8251 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mudguards partially act as a fairing and benefit the aerodynamic drag. With mudguards covering the rear side of a wheel the result is of course negative but it's not as bad as you think. Jan Heine rides randonneures and race bikes. It's not always the case that the race bike is faster. On the downhills the wider tyres always win.

  • @prestachuck2867
    @prestachuck2867 ปีที่แล้ว

    Conor is a powerful beast. You might have had a different result had he entered the Pro-1-2 race with that machine though. By the way, was this Manon’s revenge for the unplugged derailleur incident?

  • @grandad1982
    @grandad1982 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On the roads of Sussex that have fallen apart and are like gravel tracks this would make definite sense.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the same goes for most of the UK 😂

  • @dcv9460
    @dcv9460 ปีที่แล้ว

    💯💯💯DEFINITELY! 💯💯💯

  • @nannenon
    @nannenon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish you had put on some road tires. That is what everybody else would have done if they entered a race like this. With gravel tires on it doesn't quite reflect what the bike is capable of on this circut.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe next time!

  • @donaldduck5731
    @donaldduck5731 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still not sure of the difference between a gravel bike vs an endurance bike, both can have reasonable tyres, however I much prefer getting out and cycling quiet sustrans routes and tracks than enduring busy roads with aggressive car drivers these days.
    For me, ideally, Ultegra Di2, 40ish tyres, good for road, tracks, light offroad and a strong carbon frame which can take a pannier rack when required for the multi-day excursions.
    However the elephant in the room is potholes, my dog trailer even got a blow out yesterday, much to the dismay of Murphy, are thin road tyres now too dangerous on UK’s treacherous pothole laden roads? Swerving around the multitude of potholes on roads full of speeding angry aggressive car drivers is a recipe for disaster.

  • @amputech
    @amputech ปีที่แล้ว +9

    In a discussion about gravel vs road bike, everyone is always neglecting cyclocross bikes. Just a thought.

    • @Trancefreakeh
      @Trancefreakeh ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Depends what for, from what I've been told, gravelbikes are more practical when it comes to bikepacking since they often come with all the attachment t points and I believe the cyclocross vikes ride harder, and have a higher BB?
      I've azked myself this question before as well and this was the arguments against cyclocross as an all-rounder.

    • @two-eyedRoy
      @two-eyedRoy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not neglecting, has been covered before [th-cam.com/video/S8B-rqqHIEg/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=GlobalCyclingNetwork (although, this one is just off road)], but also mentioned in the last week about how the Cyclocross bike is very use specific, whilst Gravel are more encompassing.
      On the Thruxton course of this vid, unlikely to be much difference at all between CX and GRVL, but something tighter and technical the CX would have an edge being more nimble.

  • @jeansebastienroy5456
    @jeansebastienroy5456 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder what pressure Connor did use in his tires. My gravel bike is equipped with 40 mm tires, I would keep them at 35-40psi when on gravel and in the woods, but at 50 to 55 psi if on the tarmac only…