Road bike, but I like your idea of a gravel bike with different wheels/tires. For every 1 person that wishes they'd bought a tri bike from the beginning, there are ten (more?) with a tri bike gathering dust and not being used.
I swapped my Boardman 8.9 ADV gravel bike onto 25mm road tyres for my commute and the difference in speed between that and my Boardman Air Elite carbon road bike is very little.
Very helpful advice, I previously owned a road bike, did triathlons & enjoyed it. I’m now considering buying a Triathlon Bike (Giant Trinity Advanced Pro 2 )
I started triathlon training for my first ever tri race , IM Cairns 70.3 on a road bike with clip on bars. Great option and cheaper than TT but after my first long distance tri I was hooked with the sport and bought a second hand TT bike, 2014 Scott Plasma 30 for 3rd of the price of a new one. With the money saved I purchased a Garmin vector 3s powermeter, to train and pace properly my IRONMAN full. Because I didn’t invest too much money for a new one, I slowly invest in extra accessories for my TT like hydration system, better computer, swaped aluminium for carbon wheels….Being on a budget, for me the best strategy to get a performant bike (TT) with several accessories. To put things in perspectives, Unless you actually chasing a KONA spot, an old 2nd hand TT bike, and the bright new top of the range DI2 TT bike won’t make much difference. There is so many aspects to be faster on the full IM bike leg the only rigg (training, aero gains, pacing, nutrition…).
Great progression, powermeter is definitely a better investment than a new/slightly better bike. Power just gives so much insight on pacing and training! Have a great day man 🙌
Unless you are extremely committed to Triathlons and your time deserves attention, I think buying a Tri bike is a bit of a waste of money. If money is not a problem then is different... I personally use an aero road bike with no clips-on bars but I will eventually purchase them. There are lots of different road bikes so I would not generalise too much about them as you do in your intro. Also, I did what you mentioned at the end about having a gravel bike with 2 sets of wheels, one for road and one for gravel. Having upgraded to an aero road bike (giant proper pro) you can really feel the difference in responsiveness and speed with the aero road but if you are not bothered about finishing 5/10 mins earlier then it's a decent choice. Oh, and gravel bike are not the same as road bike, the geometry is way different :)
Hey Sam ok I’d I agree, triathlon needs to be a significant part of your life before buying (or dare I say splurging) on a tri bike. Only thing is check out the specialized crux or Cervelo Aspero, they are basically lightweight semi aggressive endurance bikes that can fit up to 45c
Fantastic advice there, thanks. It really helps novice tri athletes like me think about the possibilities and priorities. Incidentally, this week 'That Triathlon Show' answered this question as well, but with a slightly bigger emphasis on getting a (well fitted) tri bike rather than an adapted road bike. Thanks again for your perspective.
Hey David! Thank you for the comment! I think a well fitted tri bike is a good choice, personally I use mine for climbing also - only problem would be group rides, but even there.. sometimes you can join no problem even with a tri bike! Happy training
Hey Patrick! I’ve been thinking about getting clip ons for my road bike so this was a super helpful video. I just completed my first 70.3 last week with just my normal road bike but I have been contemplating adding clip ons for my next 70.3 in a couple of weeks to see if there is a difference. If I do get clip ons, would I also need to change my seat to accommodate for them? i.e. the tri bikes have a slightly shorter front end of the seat. Would I need to consider this for clip on bars?
100000.000.000 get clip one for the next event, they make a big difference! So as far as the front end of the seat goes, i never had a saddle made like that. Even my previous saddle that was prologo Zerotri was still long like a normal saddle and had a normal tip. Talking about saddles though, I found I had to lower the seat a bit, but On the road bike I had kept my seat slammed all the way back. Viceversa, if you want a mega more aggressive position slam it all forward (you will probably need to raise it just a little bit) but be aware that it will put more stress on you joints 😺😺 Happy training!
So, I am doing my first 70.3 in 4 weeks. I have been a road cyclist for about 3 years. Currently, I have a narrow normal saddle, which worked fine but once I installed a clip on aero bar, the position cause me a lot of discomfort in my crouch because of the new pressure. So I decided to buy a short nose saddle that is wider have the split, bontrager aeolus, game changer. Also that saddle is built with the possibility to be attached forward for that very aero position. Maybe that helps.
Hey Patrick, great videos. I have a question regarding your power meter. Is yours a single sided crank? Do you still use that one now? As a beginner in terms of power meters, is a single sided good enough or should I invest in dual sided pedals?
Hello, I believe single sided is way more than enough especially as a beginner. Being on the left side it will almost certainly be on your weaker leg also so it will underestimate power if anything (good thing). I’ve switched to 4iii power meters now, always left crank arm. I think 4iii or stages are both good, as is assioma uno or duo. Depends on how much money you want to throw at it, of course double is better but personally I believe single sided for recreational athletes to be enough 🙏
@@PatrickDelorenzi I’m definitely a beginner. Been riding about 1 year, mostly for fun/exercise. Have done 2 triathlons so far and loved them, but want to work on improving my cycling. My goal (if I can get my swimming down) is a 70.3. I definitely will check out the single arm power meter as it’s only $100-200 usd. The power medal pedals are $500 or so. Thank you for your advice! One last thing, do you have a recommendation on clip on tri bars? Edit - single sided crank in $350 usd, single pedal is $500, dual pedal is $750. I think crank will work for me
Definitely Tri-Rig. Too many differences between the two and if they actually do some competitions they’re going to find themselves slow on the bike and more drained when they transition to the run.
I Was using a road bike, but after TT bike, i cant use it again the road, awful 😂 SOLD Its really different, lightweight, carbon, position, speed, comfortable,,aerodynamic,,etc Good luck 😉
Totally agree with you Red Line. TT bike if super dialed in with good fit and aero components, really offers a massive advantage (3-4 kmph). Going fast on flat with a TT bike is a really awesome feeling, i get in the Zone. on a road bike, i just hate it ahhaa
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Road bike, but I like your idea of a gravel bike with different wheels/tires.
For every 1 person that wishes they'd bought a tri bike from the beginning, there are ten (more?) with a tri bike gathering dust and not being used.
Hhahahha that's including my bike gathering dust back in italy lol - Have a great day!
I swapped my Boardman 8.9 ADV gravel bike onto 25mm road tyres for my commute and the difference in speed between that and my Boardman Air Elite carbon road bike is very little.
Very helpful advice,
I previously owned a road bike, did triathlons & enjoyed it.
I’m now considering buying a Triathlon Bike (Giant Trinity Advanced Pro 2 )
Nice! I have transitioned almost exclusively to riding a racing gravel bike 90% of the time, and use the TT bike for ironmans
I started triathlon training for my first ever tri race , IM Cairns 70.3 on a road bike with clip on bars. Great option and cheaper than TT but after my first long distance tri I was hooked with the sport and bought a second hand TT bike, 2014 Scott Plasma 30 for 3rd of the price of a new one. With the money saved I purchased a Garmin vector 3s powermeter, to train and pace properly my IRONMAN full. Because I didn’t invest too much money for a new one, I slowly invest in extra accessories for my TT like hydration system, better computer, swaped aluminium for carbon wheels….Being on a budget, for me the best strategy to get a performant bike (TT) with several accessories. To put things in perspectives, Unless you actually chasing a KONA spot, an old 2nd hand TT bike, and the bright new top of the range DI2 TT bike won’t make much difference. There is so many aspects to be faster on the full IM bike leg the only rigg (training, aero gains, pacing, nutrition…).
Great progression, powermeter is definitely a better investment than a new/slightly better bike. Power just gives so much insight on pacing and training! Have a great day man 🙌
Unless you are extremely committed to Triathlons and your time deserves attention, I think buying a Tri bike is a bit of a waste of money. If money is not a problem then is different...
I personally use an aero road bike with no clips-on bars but I will eventually purchase them. There are lots of different road bikes so I would not generalise too much about them as you do in your intro. Also, I did what you mentioned at the end about having a gravel bike with 2 sets of wheels, one for road and one for gravel. Having upgraded to an aero road bike (giant proper pro) you can really feel the difference in responsiveness and speed with the aero road but if you are not bothered about finishing 5/10 mins earlier then it's a decent choice. Oh, and gravel bike are not the same as road bike, the geometry is way different :)
Hey Sam ok I’d I agree, triathlon needs to be a significant part of your life before buying (or dare I say splurging) on a tri bike. Only thing is check out the specialized crux or Cervelo Aspero, they are basically lightweight semi aggressive endurance bikes that can fit up to 45c
Fantastic advice there, thanks. It really helps novice tri athletes like me think about the possibilities and priorities.
Incidentally, this week 'That Triathlon Show' answered this question as well, but with a slightly bigger emphasis on getting a (well fitted) tri bike rather than an adapted road bike. Thanks again for your perspective.
Hey David! Thank you for the comment! I think a well fitted tri bike is a good choice, personally I use mine for climbing also - only problem would be group rides, but even there.. sometimes you can join no problem even with a tri bike! Happy training
Thank you for sharing your valuable insights in this video.
Great video Patrick - still not gone all in on a Tri Bike, wobbly enough just with tri bars 😂
Practice on an open space first. Do circles in both directions and figures of eight. Good luck!!
Hhahahha yeah it's not really as intuitive as with a road bike.. and def less safe!! Cheers have a great day : ))
Very helpful video :) Thank you very much! See you on the race :)
As always - great information. Really like the idea about the lightweight gravel bike - thank you
Hey Rhodrick thank you! I might just do a 70.3 with the new gravel bike when it arrives to prove the point lol, it could be interesting
Very useful. End game ....Tri Bike
It also depends on the race. Drafting or non-drafting. I have to take my aero bars off for my next race 😠
Very true!! I also had to take my aerobars off for my first Olympic! With a tri bike there is NO drafting racing happening
Ciao Patrick, boardman adv 9.0 può essere una buona opzione? Cambiando ovviamente poi ovviamente ruot, grazie!
Ciao! Non saprei non conosco la boardman
Hey Patrick! I’ve been thinking about getting clip ons for my road bike so this was a super helpful video. I just completed my first 70.3 last week with just my normal road bike but I have been contemplating adding clip ons for my next 70.3 in a couple of weeks to see if there is a difference. If I do get clip ons, would I also need to change my seat to accommodate for them? i.e. the tri bikes have a slightly shorter front end of the seat. Would I need to consider this for clip on bars?
100000.000.000 get clip one for the next event, they make a big difference! So as far as the front end of the seat goes, i never had a saddle made like that. Even my previous saddle that was prologo Zerotri was still long like a normal saddle and had a normal tip. Talking about saddles though, I found I had to lower the seat a bit, but On the road bike I had kept my seat slammed all the way back. Viceversa, if you want a mega more aggressive position slam it all forward (you will probably need to raise it just a little bit) but be aware that it will put more stress on you joints 😺😺 Happy training!
So, I am doing my first 70.3 in 4 weeks. I have been a road cyclist for about 3 years. Currently, I have a narrow normal saddle, which worked fine but once I installed a clip on aero bar, the position cause me a lot of discomfort in my crouch because of the new pressure. So I decided to buy a short nose saddle that is wider have the split, bontrager aeolus, game changer. Also that saddle is built with the possibility to be attached forward for that very aero position. Maybe that helps.
Hey Patrick, great videos. I have a question regarding your power meter. Is yours a single sided crank? Do you still use that one now? As a beginner in terms of power meters, is a single sided good enough or should I invest in dual sided pedals?
Hello, I believe single sided is way more than enough especially as a beginner. Being on the left side it will almost certainly be on your weaker leg also so it will underestimate power if anything (good thing). I’ve switched to 4iii power meters now, always left crank arm. I think 4iii or stages are both good, as is assioma uno or duo. Depends on how much money you want to throw at it, of course double is better but personally I believe single sided for recreational athletes to be enough 🙏
@@PatrickDelorenzi I’m definitely a beginner. Been riding about 1 year, mostly for fun/exercise. Have done 2 triathlons so far and loved them, but want to work on improving my cycling. My goal (if I can get my swimming down) is a 70.3. I definitely will check out the single arm power meter as it’s only $100-200 usd. The power medal pedals are $500 or so. Thank you for your advice! One last thing, do you have a recommendation on clip on tri bars?
Edit - single sided crank in $350 usd, single pedal is $500, dual pedal is $750. I think crank will work for me
Definitely Tri-Rig. Too many differences between the two and if they actually do some competitions they’re going to find themselves slow on the bike and more drained when they transition to the run.
clips on are the pedals? or the aero handle bar, similar to TT bike?
Hey Cristian, the clip on aerobars 👌
I Was using a road bike, but after TT bike, i cant use it again the road, awful 😂 SOLD
Its really different, lightweight, carbon, position, speed, comfortable,,aerodynamic,,etc
Good luck 😉
Totally agree with you Red Line. TT bike if super dialed in with good fit and aero components, really offers a massive advantage (3-4 kmph). Going fast on flat with a TT bike is a really awesome feeling, i get in the Zone. on a road bike, i just hate it ahhaa
TRI
Hhahahha it's a beautiful bike