Outdoor Vitals Pitches a New Tent.. IS IT A CONTENDER??
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Durston Xmid-2 has double-wall construction (less condensation), sil/polyester (no sag, more durable) is longer and wider, and is only 3oz heavier for $40 cheaper….
If it was ever in stock.
@@DoomHolder2 should be in a couple of months
Shhhh...I dont need more people on the waiting list. 🤫
The xmid is a faaaar better tent. Designed by someone who hikes ALOT so it’s extremely well thought out. To be fair though, double wall doesn’t reduce condensation, just makes it so you don’t rub up against the condensation.
@@rgmALC true. less likely to have condensation become an enemy really. but the X-Mid absolutely rocks. insane quality for the price. this thing is more expensive and doesnt seem to have anything special.
I am watching this a year after publication, but I just ordered my OV Fortius 2P tent. I am so excited as a recent convert to trekking pole tents. I am thru-hiking the Florida Trail in 2 weeks, so I am concerned with thunderstorms and wind, as we frequently see in FL. This tent gives me a lot of confidence to weather out storms. Happy to see this video...no buyer's remorse here.
How did it go???
Tayson needs to do a video explaining how he transferred mass from his torso to his beard.
Agreed, It's the ZZ Top look. Also, in the winter he can tuck it into a balaclava and have added insulation!
Doesn't strike me as a Durston killer.
Haven't seen a Dan Becker video in a minute, things are looking slick with the video work!
The tent looks nice and well thought out. That camping location looked incredibly beautiful, plus great fishing. Looks like you all had a great time.
Loving the new editing and video work!
Tent looks sweet! Looks like a lot of room for a 1 person actually. Love outdoor vitals stuff
Dan, this is Jeremy. Just wanted to say, it was great running into you 7/30 on Texas Pass. Now I can vouch for you that you "really do Backpack" LOL.... No but for reals it was great meeting and talking to you. Hope the rest of the trip was awesome. The winds are truly one of a kind.
Texas Pass is a beast- but worth it to drop into the Cirque!
Great meeting you and your wife as well Jeremy!!
I'm sure it is a quality product but to be honest I'm not crazy about saggy silnylon and I just really don't see anything that sets it apart from the crowded field of trekking pole tents.
I’m sure if you are part of the “OV Tribe”, you’ll eat this thing up
Yep - make it from silpoly and I’d consider it.
Actually I do, it looks much bigger for a 1 person trekking pole tent which is a big deal
@@jasonmillwood2893 Interior of this tent is 88" long by 28" wide. No big deal there. In fact, that's smaller than many 1p trekking pole tents.
@@michaelbrohl1625 who cares, then don’t buy it haha it would be perfect for me. Also If your tent is saggy then you need to practice pitching it better…
I don't buy their import junk. They sold me an expensive quilt that was missing half the down.
OV is one of those companies that pours more money in to advertising than a quality product.
This tent is replacing my Lanshan trekking pole tent. I was impressed with the Lanshan for weight savings and price, but the Fortius looks to be much more secure in bad weather. I also like the offset trekking pole design, it should provide more room in the tent. I haven't been disappointed by any of the OV gear I have purchased and used. Kinda want to see if the Fortius can withstand a nasty Minnesota Thunderstorm and kinda don't. Also I enjoy the light hearted content of the video.
get an xmid.
Make sure you have long stakes and find solid ground if you want to test this in a t-storm or micro-burst!
@@bihlygoat If possible I would like to test it in a t-storm in my back yard first. Then go out on the trail with it.
@@bihlygoat I am not sure how many light weight tents are gong or handle a micro burst. One hit my house and with all the tree damage I needed half my home rebuild.
I also had a Lanshan trekking pole tent, and really liked it especially for the price. But I moved to another state, and all my moving shipment got stolen in transit with ALL my backpacking gear. So I'm in the market for another tent. And I am a very satisfied outdoor Vitals costumer for years , no doubt I'll be getting this tent in a couple of days.
Looks nice, but I'm just done with tarp style tents. Started using them when I did the JMT, and continued for years, but I've come to the conclusion they aren't worth the weight savings unless absolutely necessary, especially with some of these new big volume double walls now getting withing a pound or two of them.
I agree, especially when you can’t get extremely solid stake placements (sand, deep loam, snow, etc). Had too many stakes pull out to collapse my tarp tent…
Yep. Went from a tight one-person tarptent to a 2 person double wall. The extra space is just too much of a necessity once the weather becomes a factor
I assuming you are on the younger side. I could be wrong but I have made the switch and there is no going back. A pound or two is massive to my older body. My Tiger Wall was and is a nice tent but nothing like my Duplex. It’s pretty much perfect. Take care
Go Dan go!!!!!!!. Enjoy your videos be safe
I have a bunch of OV gear. I really like the construction, fit, and attention to detail.
There’s comedic gold in this video.
X-mid is better, less expensive, no manditory guylines, only 4 stakes needed to pitch and no stupid pole in the middle of the door. The standard X-Mid is also double walled and will be much better at controlling condensation.
This is very similar to all the other A frame shelters. I dont see any major improvements over the X-Mid or the Tarptent stuff.
and now that the X-Mid Pro 2p is out and weighing a scant 1lb 4oz...Durston is the way to go!!!!
seems like a copy of Gossamer Gear, The One. But heavier.
I was really looking at this tent. It was between this and the gossamer gear The One. I’d like to see a review of both of those tents head to head.
Just pull the trigger and get the Zpack version. About 15 oz and it’s awesome. Cry once.
Not impressed with the tent compared to other ultralight tents. The camera looks cool though
I used to follow OV, after seeing this tent I am reminded why I quit. It looks like nothing has changed, still just a bunch of average quality, overpriced, chinese gear. Thanks for the reminder.
you have seriously under-estimated OV gear. Their Ventus hoody is a game changer, the NovaUL Jacket is innovative with the fill and ability to not wet out, and the Tushar rain jacket looks best in class. Maybe dig in more? Not all of their products are bangers, but in recent times, I have found MOST are.
@@mp29k Having a single gimmick product is all the reason I need to not buy from a company.
My personal experience with OV was horrible. When I used their website, a while a go, it was one of those scam websites where it tries to add things to your cart using sneaky buttons and "are you sure you dont want this quilt added in" instead of "checkout". A COMPLETE BULLSHIT WEBSITE TRYING TO STEAL YOUR MONEY. Outdoor Vitals is a scam, its coincidence that some of their products work as intended. If it seems like its to good to be true. it probably is. Its just another company birthed in social media that has no solid foundation. All Fluff, no good stuff.
I've got an RS.. It's awesome.
Not going to lie didn’t know this this was just released last week I ordered it last week and set it up and love it hopefully going out soon to give it a test
Very similar to the OneTigris Tangram, just lighter and 3x the cost.
Really like the b roll footage and editing!
Please don't torture fish. Either catch, kill and eat or throw it back immediately after catching it. Don't just let it hang there for show, while it is suffocating. Thank you.
4:27 you literally did have a cameraman following you.
He’s sneaky like that
I love the tent and would like for you to have available an extra cover to make it a good 4 season tent. Thank you.
The dog❤
Pitched right by the water. We're you doing a condensation test?
Dan teach them to fish ... Its good that you are with them so they will have something to eat 👍
Contrary to my mood seen here, I was stuck in knee deep mud! Dan had zero concern for my well being!
Also I think I saw you steal that fish off my line when I wasn’t looking!
we were with you in spirit
@@DanBecker a great fisherman never reveals his secrets! Ha ha! 👊🏻👍🏻
😂😂 that was great!
The shadows were giving away the selfie stick! Paul Messner who runs a UK based hiking channel has been using one of those "invisible" selfie stick cameras for about 4 years, might not be exactly the same but it certainly works the same, except his doesn't seem to cast a shadow (could just be the weather here). I got a message from "you" a week or so ago saying to text the supplied number as I had won a prize, don't know if it 2as real or not but I did try to text the number but it wouldn't send. If it was real let me know and if it was fake then someone is trying to scam your subscribers.
Wasn’t me! It was most definitely a scam!
The sun only comes out once a year in Scotland !
This looks a lot like the one Tigris bungalow . I love my one Tigris
Why not have it Sil-Poly? It being Sil-Nylon it will sag and being single wall, will probs get gear inside wet if brushed against it.
I feel all single wall tents that are not DCF should be Sil-Poly.
cost. It costs them more and lowers profits. It really is a shame, especially with a single wall. Rainy nights are going to be a bad time when it relies on all those guy outs.
SilNylon is more durable. That was the single biggest reason to go this way. When using ultralight fabrics, strength is key. Typically polyester is cheaper than nylon, it wasn't about saving any money...
@@thetaysonwhittaker When wet, Nylon weakens considerably because of it being hydrophilic - water actually enters between the fibers stretching the bonds (this also makes it take eons to dry and makes it heavy after getting wet).
Dupont, who makes both commonly used silnylon and silpoly fabrics, have shown that while silnylon is technically stronger, it is only stronger by 1% in tensile strength while dry (the while dry part is crucially important). Beyond that, silpoly withstands UV wayyyy better than nylon does. Nylon can lose 8% of its strength in just 2 days of sun exposure, while silpoly is naturally UV resistant.
At the end of the day, if you hike in a place that will not rain or snow, has 0% humidity, and doesn't have any sun exposure while not caring about the recyclability of the material, Silnylon is the winner... by 1%, for anything else, Silpoly is vastly superior.
I admit I don't frequently purchase the two materials simultaneously, so I cant speak to costs, but if the #1 reason for choosing nylon was because nylon is supposedly "more durable" the research into materials seriously missed the mark.
@@diversie509 while Brigham our designer would be a lot more adapted answering this, I'll be sure to discuss it with him. It does sound like an interesting study. However, I still think there are a lot more studies out there. Showcasing nylons improved strength and durability. That being said, I'll be diving into finding this article and doing some more additional research on it. Form my experience, some articles can really highlight specific strengths rather than all encompassing strengths, an example of that would be with Dyneema fabrics. I appreciate your comments, we are always seeking to improve!
@UC_3BWmaLWLfdR1IMB7E_5Uw thanks, I appreciate that! We do all we can to harness a culture of constant learning and improvement.
I would love to buy the fortius 1p but there are no videos to demonstrate the internal space. I'm 6'1" and need to know if it can fit inside on a sleeping pad. I need to see it.
My main concern about trekking pole tents is condensation
get a double walled trekking pole tent. Checkout the X-Mid. Its frequently sold out, but it will definitely make you a believer.
So it’s a mini silnylon duplex?
Gotta ask how this is any better than say my Lanshan 2 Po??
Curious as well
looks not as good to me and three times the price, thee standard Lanshan seems better too
Hi Dan, I watched this video awhile ago and now I am thinking about picking up the 1P Fortius but I am concerned with the width. I currently have a Six Moon Design Lunar Solo, which I plan to sell. I am 5'11" 228# and always camp solo. What are your thoughts, the 2P is also available but if I can save a few bucks that would be good. Thanks
Dan please make sure to wet your hands first before handling a fish. You can cause harm to it by doing that.
Dan, will you do a comparison video on the OV Fortius 1P versus the Durston X-Mid 1 person? Please.
The most 'tentiest' tent. I mean it is a tent, but honestly nothing special over a lanshan pro, lunar solar or DD xmid.
Naa, the Xmid in special since its Sil-Poly.
@@benhikingoutdoors1632 that is what I am saying. So many better options for that price range.
That's a beauty fish
Isnt this just the same tent as the lanshan 2?
I’ve been checking this tent out for a minute and it way more tent than what it cost!!! This is my next purchase.
Hi DB, nice tent, good price point. Did you mention, is it water proof. The specs on line hard to read. What is the total interior length. Im 6 ft tall.
I would watch your fishing channel
How about graphene, instead of carbon fiber? Hexagonal design, super strong, ultra ultra light.
Nice lamshan
I was hoping it was a double wall tent and they explained why the screen portion was saggy even though the outside portion was tight. But apparently that’s just my pitch. Lmao.
Love the channel, have you seen, or heard of the REI flash air tent ?
Would love to see your review of the two or even the one person version of that particular hybrid single wall trekking pole tent.
I have not! I’ll check it out
You and huge fly fisherman would get along
That guy Ben has a insecurity issue. He consistently makes fun of how other people like to fish for fun. Literally every video he has some jab at some one else, at some insignificant detail that he hopes will make him look more elite in return. Thats one of the worst fly fishing channels.
Love the comments bashing the tent. Makes no sense to me. Now days it’s more about what a person wants or likes. It’s pretty hard to get a bad tent in this price range no matter what brand. Sales happen for all brands all different times of the year. I sleep in a hammock still waiting for that to blow up on social media.
One area they could have improved is making the door an inverted T like the inner net tents 3F UL offers. I think most people don't enjoy using J zippers
Hey Dan! Great video! I have been researching gear in preparation for backpacking. Would you mind giving me some input on budget backpacks, specifically the Teton Sports explorer 4000?
I own the explorer 4000. It's comfortable, has pockets, weighs 5 pounds, and is more for 30-45 pound carries. If you can get your backpack weight down to 25 pounds or lighter, I would carry a frameless backpack such as the 3F UL which is 1 pound 14 ounce, or HMG, or many other lightweight frameless packs. cheers
also check out Dose of Dirt for budget backpacking tips, ol Dan has the best of the best, budget is secondary.
@@calvintraviserickson thanks man
I have the 55 liter scout Teton....its a heavy pack, but tough and durable as can be....it carries 30 to 40lbs pretty good...decent budget pack
Go on the outdoor review channel. He covers pretty much out there.
So insta 360 is pretty much covering both OV’s their own marketing cost. Big brain lol
Link to cam doesn't work
Looks like a bad version of six moons lunar solo
"Pitche$" a new tent, you're silly. lol!
Good humot
Got fed up with all your ramblings. Why didn’t you just get on with the video.
Looks like a more expensive lanshan
Can you admit that you're personal friends with Tayson and that you're a shrill for their gear?
Either way, you sound a bit jealous
1m87/6.2feet fit inside with pad and sleeping bag?
I was honestly expecting a much higher price point. Not a bad deal at all.
Really lol you must not have a clue really to vale for money, this seems the biggest rip off tent I have seen, its basically a Lanshan 2 for 3 times the price
A lot of similarity between this and the Lanshan Pro (1P and 2P with the double vestibules). Similar half door, pole setup, sizes, silnylon (not the preferable silpoly however), guying out and weights, though not a similar price however - and the Lanshan 2 double wall is cheaper and even better IMHO, especially now I've made a few customisations ! However I still much prefer the Durston Xmid-2 which is still the dog's b$%^*^ks.
it looks strangely similar to an xmid
Good channel and gear review, but PLEASE learn how to handle fish and practice ethical catch and release fishing.
I like the tent, weight is perfect. A tad pricey, but, you gotta pay to play!
Not enough room for my gear. Gonna stay with my Copper Spur…….
1.625 lbs or 26 oz, and I'm wondering if that's WITH or WITHOUT the pegs....obviously doesn't include the weight of a carbon fiber pole yet or the weight of the poles besides....which all count...., and how much hardware, is the main question.....DETAILS, we need ALL the details.... are the stakes you're using lighter than Becker's normal Groundhog Stakes? Why don't they follow Becker's recommended Groundhog Stakes? Are those Outdoor Vitals Stakes?..lol....gram weenies count.....gram weenies matter..... Nice rainbow Becker.... I approve of both the Rainbow and the price of the tent....not sure on functionality and I'll weigh in on my opinion when all independent gear reviews are in on the tent....till then I'm sticking with my tried, tested and true one man, so far.....as why change what I know works perfectly for me....BUT I'm always open to new gear reviews and watch them intensely.....
Thanks! It is 26 ounces with the outdoor vitals steaks and guy lines. They give just the standard cheap stake with the tent. The ones you saw in the video were Tayson‘s personal stakes he uses on his tents.
The price is nuts why would you pay that price when you can get a lansan for half that price
Disappears its own pole...... just a random stray shadow on the ground, nothing to see here🤣
Another "outdoor-guy" selling products and brands.
the "outdoor guy" from OV has a big beard. what a surprise. He must know what hes doing outside.
@@rizzoblam Just boring watching city people review stuff.
So, another advertisement for gear being poorly masqueraded as an independent review?
First time fishing? That is sad!!!!
It's a stretching POS ventilation is terrible It's junk
I like your channel. However I cannot understand, why a person can think, that fishes do not feel pain.
@@wolfmanjack9593 I take tris as your acknowledgement, that humanoids do not have a monoply in terms of sensuality. Anyway, I herewith unsubscribe tris channel.
Hi
If it's all about the weight why would you bring trekking poles? Aren't ultralight tent poles lighter than ultralight trekking poles? Trekking poles are only useful for long through hikes IMO. Example, you guys are just chilling in the woods fishing. You don't need trekking poles for these 1-3 night trips I always see on youtube. They're for trekking, it looked you guys were fishing.
hiking with poles is a better experience for many people as it takes strain off the feet and legs when ascending/descending by spreading the weight and balance across 4 limbs and their joints instead of two while adding stability, as well as some other less significant benefits, everyone i know who's tried them doesn't go back. since many people would be bringing them regardless of their tent choice, so tents have been designed around them.
but if they aint for you, you can just use carbon tent poles.
I'd agree, but you don't really need to worry about going ultralight on a 2 night trip period. The people that benefit the most from ultralight (30+ miles and multiple days) are the same crowd who would be using trekking poles so I think the decision makes sense - especially if they eventually offer the tent poles with it.
I am a new backpack camper and I won’t some tips.
Wear mittens in the snow!