Girl you nailed it on so many levels…especially the cost for curly cuts👏🏽 I literally get my hair cut once a year because it’s so damn expensive. Once it grows out I have to deal with the unevenness or try snipping off the ends myself because I can’t afford the maintenance. I wish we could pamper ourselves regularly at the salon like so many others do but I’d have to get a part-time job just to upkeep my hair appointments. Equality is definitely warranted in the hair community and you spoke truth today, Bianca…we thank you‼️
Or I just cause someone has a license doesn't mean that they know how to drive, or that they can help people with mental and emotional problems a.k.a. a good counselor/therapist
@@skb4055 hey, if we was talking about Harvard and the fancy schools, be it first in the class or last in the class, they’d be still have bragging rights…I give them props for seeing it through. All we asking is some inclusivity in proper curly styling…I sit with stylists and it’s to teach them how to style my hair…
@@mpkblydspkbl745, understood. Even Harvard graduates have to back the bragging rights up with results. I agree with Bianca but I still say we should find licensed cosmetologist who can make this happen. We have to start some where but naturals don’t use chemicals and that is the main component of requiring to license.
Bianca is preaching this Sunday! These ppl literally have no idea what they are doing. It’s a shame. This is why I don’t like going to a stylist., I went in August for the first time in years to get a hair cut and of course she blew out my hair and chopped off way too much. AFTER I told her my hair has massive shrinkage. They don’t listen and don’t care. Then she proceeds to style me with mousse and tried to fluff out my hair and said I wanted volume. I then told her I hated volume and never use mousse. She said why didn’t you tell me, BC YOU DIDN’T ASK.
This! 👏 What do they say, 80 some percent of the population has textured hair, yet it’s not the “norm”?! We all have so much trauma from salon visits. The stories I hear from my coaching clients about their experiences are maddening. This is one reason I started offering them even though I’m not a “certified stylist.” Where does change even begin? We have to start increasing the demand by asking for curl experienced stylist for them to even realize they need to improve their education.
It’s my understanding that the instruction is focused on making sure they can pass their state board exam. So, until the exams are updated, the education won’t change.
As a professional licensed hair stylist who specializes in curly/natural hair your video speaks to my SOUL!!!! I agree that if you can't work with ALL textures you can't call/consider yourself to be a professional hairstylist. I'm licensed in Texas, and in school we were not required or given proper instruction on how to do curly/natural hair (and I hated that it was referred to as "textured" hair). The only classes on curly/natural hair (which were only about 3-4 classes during a whole year) was how to tame or straighten the hair to suit euro-centric standards. Right now only Louisiana, Minnesota, Connecticut, and New York require cosmetology schools to include it the curriculum. This is why I'm so passionate about the services I provide to my clients. Growing up it was so hard to care for and style my curls. It wasn't until I was almost 30 that I finally was able to figure it out and get a cut without having to straighten my hair. Nothing makes me happier than educating my clients and having them fall in love with their natural hair. Now, I will say when it comes to the pricing for cuts, for me it's not so much the scarcity of my services, but because of the time and cost of products.
💯 right on. I have different curl patterns and it's frustrating. I literally had a stylist complain I had so much hair and thick. Like she was exhausted and it was just a trim. 🙄 I used to perm my hair in the 80s just to get a uniform pattern. I stopped when I got pregnant. I'm 59, and stopped dying my hair years ago. It's now about being gentle and acceptance due to my sensitive skin rebelling. Gray curly hair has its own complexities. I don't like getting cuts or trims, even with a sweet stylist. I just try to keep ends from frizzing. And as you age, you have to constantly adjust. And I have educate myself with channels like yours.
Yes!!!! Exactly the grey also changes things your so right on - gosh when I was in my twenties they would look at my hair as I say in the chair thinking oh please don’t touch it if you don’t know….
I’m terrified about going to a salon for my curly hair including for my girls. I refuse to go. TH-cam University is my educational platform that makes my daughters look fabulous. And I can save hundreds of dollars. Not in this economy will I spend money to look like over processed cocker spaniel.😂 And I love cocker spaniels. So cute.
When I tell you this is so true! I’ve been a stylist and makeup Artist for 20yrs. I’ve learned styling curly hair styling my Puerto Rican family and eventually on myself when I decided to grow my curly hair long. It is crazy that as a very old profession, it isn’t something that is focused on in the certification process.
I'm a curly girl. Similar curl pattern to yours. It's a nightmare for us curly girls to go to most salons. Most stylist have no clue but to straighten the hair with chemicals. I do know how to do my own hair because like you said I've been doing it all my life. In the past I've gone to a "popular brand name" hair school just for a shampoo/condition/scalp cleaning treatment. I tell the stylist in advance that they don't have to style my hair because most of the time they wouldn't know how to anyways. Keep preaching for us naturally curly girls sister. By the way I've not had a chemical in my hair for over 15 years...I'm real deal natural. 🙂
I live in Atlanta, GA and here there is a new trend of Head Spas, where you go and get a hair/scalp treatment that focalizes on massaging and relaxation. Out of all the salons that have opened up, I have not seen one tailor to curly hair aftercare. The procedure once the head spa is completed, there is a room where there is a mirror and blow dryer. The norm is for clients to "blow dry" their hair so that they don't leave with wet hair. If us curly girls use only a blow dryer for the aftercare.... we would be lookin A HOT MESS walking out..... Their pages will intentionally mentioned that they also cater to curly girls but their after care says quite the opposite. The idea sounds amazing to get a head massage but I refuse to give any of them my money if the expectation is for me to bring in my own hair products and do it myself after.... Had to rant. Your rant inspired my rant that hadn't been vocalized yet. I hope others have noticed what I'm noticing because it's not right. Anyway, love you Bianca and thank you for speaking out on these issues that all of us have either experienced or noticed!
I live in Atlanta too and saw an ad for one yesterday. I immediately went to the FAQs because I was like “what do they do with your hair afterwards?” And of course they said they just blow dry. What really got me was them saying depending on how curly or could your hair is, the don’t recommend the scalp treatments because it will lead to your hair being tangled but my question is, why not just detangle May hair once you’re done with the scalp massage? And maybe have an option to just braid my hair or something if I don’t want it blown out. It’s like damn, just because I have curly or coil hair I can’t enjoy this form or self care smh.
@@chocolatelover9109 Yessss!!!! Exactly!!! I keep seeing the same thing! Ridiculous… so comforting to know I’m not the only one who shares this frustration!!
Thank you for this…and say it louder for the people in the back. A black stylist doesn’t mean they know how to do curly hair.My stylist went out of the country and I needed my hair done. I went to another black stylist….an actual friend of hers…that was trained at the same time as she and who actually worked in a salon to together at a point….so I naively thought I could trust her. Welp I was wrong. She cut my hair and the cut looked like a staircase. It was horrible. When my stylist returned and saw the cut she was furious. When I told her who did she was mortified. She outright said she should know that you can’t cut curly hair like you cut straight hair and and said she would talk to her when she has a cooler head as to not upset her friend but to point her in the right direction. Now, when my stylist is going out of the country my hair goes into box braids for a month until she returns. It’s ridiculous that I have to plan my hair care around my stylist’s life because I can trust others to do it. So thank you for this video.
You REALLY ate down with this one!!! I have different stylist for my curly hair vs my weave styles. MIND YOU when I go to the girls that do my weaves I know they are going to snatching through my hair to blow dry it because they don’t know how to detangle my hair. Mind you, everybody in the situation is black 🥸
GIRL!!!!! Let's keep going on this!!! When I moved to Boston and looked for a curly hair salon I almost had a heart attack. A 30 mins appointment is $100 minimum!!!! I even considered going to a regular salon, but then I remembered that none of them know how to deal with curly hair. Mind you I am 2c-3a curly girl, and I haven't been able to trust anyone who isn't a curly hair specialist. Short story: came across with this IG account of a hair salon, they do a beautiful job with color. They posted a video of a curly, who happened to be in my school so I know what her hair looks like... They colored it, beautifully! BUT when it came to style it I grinned! Even the stylist, who was the salon owner, looked uncomfortable, and I thought, how come none of the 'professional hair stylists' know how to do at least the basics on curly hair?! To end my rant I wanna say that I used to get trims every 3-4 months because that's what my hair needs, now I have to pull it up to 6-8 months which is when I get to go to PR and can see my stylist.
I live in the Boston area and I’ve never had a good experience with a cut and don’t get me started on styling!! I have wavy/curly very fine, very frizzy hair. I’ve learned how to style from videos but I can’t get a good shape anywhere. I just use Manes by Mel videos to cut my hair now. It’s not exactly what I want but it’s better than any cut I’ve ever gotten. Also, I’ve always had a picture in my head that I should feel seen and heard when I go to a salon. And after spending tons of money, I should feel and look beautiful when I leave. It’s never the case. When the stylist styles my hair, I usually look and feel ugly and resent having to pay. Now I just get the roots touched up and leave the salon with wet hair.
I haven’t stepped in a salon for my own haircut or style in 6-7 years. Partly because they are anti-long hair (give them an inch and they take off 7, no JOKE), partly because they have no idea how to manage even WAVY hair. It’s so much worse for the curlier textures. And this was on top of having been rudely handled by condescending stylists who detested me for not knowing how to manage waves they themselves were clueless on!!! If professionals can’t act and perform professionally, then they are not professionals period.
THIS! I've bbeen rocking shoulder length hair for at least 8 years, but now I am growing it. Last December (2023) I decided I needed a haircut. I lost some 5 inches of length.
I completely Agree! I remember going to a “professional” stylist 20 yrs ago to get my hair done for prom after my regular stylist bailed on me, and when I tell you I was in TEARS!! I almost didn’t go to prom after seeing the birds nest that women left on my head. I still don’t trust hair stylist 😢😢
YES to EVERYTHING you said. My senior prom 1992, I left the salon, drove home crying and re-washed my hair. Went to prom in my natural curly self-styled pineapple “up-do.” I also have salon chair muteness and stopped paying stylists for sub standard treatment and TERRIBLE cuts more than 20 years ago when I began to cut my own hair. It became a huge red flag to me every time I sat in a salon chair and the stylist would ask “do you ever wear your hair straight?” I knew instantly that stylist had NO idea how to handle curly hair and wanted to give me a straight cut and a blowout which would never look good after I wash and style curly at home. I decided to treat myself and I went to a great curl specialist 6-7 years ago and agree with you that they are educating and such but yeah…I do NOT have $150-$200 to spend on a cut so I continue to do my hair myself after that one visit…just didn’t feel a value in it personally. I have learned more from you and others I follow than I did from that specialist. Thank you for everything you do for us! ❤🫶🏻🙌🏻💕
I agree with everything you said. In education, we have to renew our teaching licenses every few years. In between those renews, we are required to stay up to date on curriculum through professional developments and classes. I feel if you work with the public, you should constantly stay up to date. Society is constantly evolving, and more people are embracing their natural hair texture ❤!
Thank you for voicing what so many of us have been feeling for years! I feel your pain and hope more stylists will advocate for learning how to not only style but also cut curly hair. We are a huge market!
SO TRUE! Every damn time I have gone to a “professional” I always have to do it at home because I hate the outcome. Can we also talk about “if” you do actually find a curly hairstylist they charge you a GRIP, also making you brush your hair prior to the appointment etc. Like wtf are they even doing paying 300+. It’s not even fair. I literally haven’t gone in over 15 years because I’m so upset after every appointment.
You hit it on the head with this one Bianca!!! Paying $300+ for a cut/color and an additional cost for styling and it looks like crap when you get out the chair! Has happened to me each and every time!!!! I can honestly say maybe one or two times it has looked OK after leaving the salon. I go home pissed after paying all this money and STILL have to use MY products to style my hair. I have 3b/3c hair and stylists always tend to use products that are NOT for my type and won't hold through the car ride home! Girl you did it with this one!!!!
You doing a lot of preaching here and all truth!!! I learned from you, CurlieCrys, and Kimberly Cherell. Y’all helped me a bunch to master my curls. There is one hair stylist that helped me with product choices and he had to learn what products work.
The hairstylist from my culture (Dominican Republic) do not specialize in curly, coily, kinky hair, although a vast majority of our population has these textures. Growing up i was always told I had “bad hair”, for which the solution was always a relaxer. Once I learned to care for my own hair, my hair has thrived. Now i go back and forth between my curls and straight hair and have not been to a professional in years. I’ve learned to trim my hair as well.
@@SheylaMI’m so glad to hear that. I only learned to care for my hair properly as an adult, so I’m really glad young people in DR now have more options ❤
Yeeeees! Omg! I completely agree. Luckily I found a great stylist 11 years ago that specializes in textured hair of all kinds. And she’s an Asian woman!! 👏🏽👏🏽
Interesting because the only woman who will do my hair in a shop full of caucasian women is an Asian woman. The rest of them refuse to touch me. She will wash and cut it ( my hair is wavy, I'm bi racial kinda 3a,b) or sometimes I blow it out before I come. The others will cut it if I straighten it
Before finding a curly hair salon, I would bring scarves or hats to my appointments and cover my hair as soon as I left the salon. I never once walked out of a salon properly styled so could never go out directly after an appointment. You pay all that money just to go home and restyle. My current stylist went to NYC to learn the Diva cut on her own. I will also mention that in a Canadian city of over a million people, we one have one curly hair salon with only 2 stylists. Bianca, I have been saying everything you're saying for years!!! Oh, and the comment about black stylists was spot on.
I totally agree with you! This is ridiculous! It can be frustrating when professional hairstylists lack knowledge about curly hair, especially considering the unique care and techniques required to maintain and style it properly. Curly hair varies in texture, curl pattern, and needs, and not having expertise in these areas can lead to damaging practices or unsatisfactory results. It highlights a gap in cosmetology education, which sometimes prioritizes straight hair techniques over textured hair. Ideally, all hairstylists should be trained in the diverse range of hair types so they can provide the best service for all clients. Inclusivity in beauty services is key, especially as more people embrace their natural curls.
You’ve definitely taught me majority of what I know about caring for my natural hair. I don’t use sulfate, straighten my hair, or use silicones anymore bc of you and my hair is thriving!!!! It is longer and healthier than it’s ever been.
I am so thankful for you. Before I found you I didn't even realize I HAD curly /wavy hair. I just thought it was "frizzy" and "hard to manage" . You taught me how to style my hair and that there were products that were best for my hair. You SAVED my hair ❤
YES THIS. Also - what on earth is with professional hairstylists claiming they are a ‘curly stylist’ after taking a single diva curl workshop. I had a curly hairstylist LOAD my hair up with leave in conditioner and hairspray - my fine 2c hair was plastered to my scalp, hard, dry ; yet greasy at the same time. 175.00 for a REGULAR long layered cut and this styling l - and i had to shower when I got home🙃. The sad fact is this is not a one off.
OH MY GOSH!! this video is so needed. I stopped going to salons for this exact reason! I have tried just going to salons for treatments and trims for a long....... time and just styling it on my own because I was tired of going to the salon and getting home and looking like a cheapet. I finally realized I had to figure out how to treat and style my hair myself when I got pregnant with my daughter and thought I cant have her deal with the same issues. Thanks to You tubers like you (love your channel!!) I have learned so... much that know I have been able to pass on my knowledge to others. It took me a long time to love my hair and I wanted her to know her hair is beautiful too. Many of these stylists only know how to style and has no clue how to take care of hair especially curly tight coiled textured hair. It is truly sad to know that product lines have grown so much buy the hair professionals have not.
Absolutely! I just did it three weeks ago! I needed my hair colored and wanted my ends trimmed without having to drive 6 hours to a curly hair specialist. I have been to this person and she knows how to comb through my hair without hurting me, she knows what products to use and even has implemented some of these products for use and purchase in a predominately white salon. Did I mention that she is white with biracial kids? She is not great with styling my hair but tells me that before I sit in the chair. She also tries by watching videos and asking questions. I always am prepared to either style my own hair after the service or do it again when I get home before going anywhere else in public. Will I continue to go to her? Yes , I will because she tries! I totally agree that this is something that needs to be taught before getting your professional license.
Yes its about listen and to try...to be honest about your skills but willing to learn.How can you trust a hairdresser when you have the feeling your hair is a burden to them?!
Hi Bianca! First of all, so glad to see you back here on TH-cam :) Secondly, I agree with you as a wavy/curly hair girlie. I struggled with this for years, until I found trust in my boyfriend's cousin who doesn't have curly hair, but knows how to handle mine. It's 2024, get it together "professional" hair community! I learned how to care for my curly hair from you and Penny. Been a follower since the beginning 💕
Thank you for vlogging. I learned so much from your vlogs on my natural hair journey! None of the hair salons I went to since my teens even suggested that I could wear my natural hair! Going natural is the best thing I have ever done with my hair. It is healthier, easier and less time consuming thanks to vloggers like you!!🎉
You know what I’ve noticed about a lot of black hair stylists. They judge the ‘health’ of your afro hair based on how ‘good’ it looks once it is straightened. If the ends are frizzy and dry (which will be natural as it’s the oldest part of your hair) they will tell you your hair is damaged. I don’t like the idea that our kinky/coily hair health is judged by a standard that it is not natural for us.
Yes, and also they need to learn how to style variations of curly hair. Not all curly haired girls have thick coiled hair, many have fine curly/wavy hair. Not all hair products work on different textures. Please hair industry get in the game and help us out!!! I love my hairdresser but I always tell her to leave my hair wet so I can do it at home. She’s not offended cause she knows I have my own technique and I have yet to have any hairdresser know how to style my fine curly hair.
I only go to get a trim. BUT she has to blow dry it to trim it and pleads with me to wear it straight. NO! I bring my products go in the bathroom and walk out with it curly...🤨
I never thanked you on your platforms for sharing different curly hair salons all around the country. I was so desperate looking for a salon a year after I did a big chop-done by my aunt who is a great Dominican hairstylist if what you need a is a blowout lol. I’ve been following you for years and I’m so glad I knew I could trust you, because even tho you are on the other side of the country you have no idea how you made my life a ton easier. You recommended whom is now my stylist, Kat, she’s the owner of The Main Attraction Hair Salon in East Rutherford, NJ. She’s amazing, very knowledgeable and helpful. Her salon is very clean and nice. I must add, her staff(hair stylists) are also very knowledgeable and friendly. I love all of them and would definitely trust them all when it comes to styling. And that’s all thanks to you and your devotion to research and share with us all your knowledge. Years of hard work have not gone unnoticed and we appreciate you and I want you to feel appreciated. I love your channel and the community that you’ve built, and just know that I have loved it since the first day I found you! Since the day I said to myself that I should embrace my beautiful natural hair and luckily found your videos. Thank youuuu 💯💞💞💞✨
Girl you went in........ I definitely understand. I have sat in the salon chair many times and have been asked right off the bat how to I style my hair type, which is 3C because they were more used to 4c and Im sitting there like you are the one with the license, really!!
AMEN! I have been natural for over 20 years and it has been a roller-coaster. Everything from the "snatching" as they did not know how to detangle, to not using enough conditioner, suggesting we relax it "just a bit to loosen the curl", etc. Many black stylists used products that were too strong for my 3C curls. I've had months where I did not even want to try to fix my hair, because it needed time to heal from the last appointment. You and Mell changed my life with knowledge, products, and empowerment. Have been using the same stylist for years. She is a white lady, working for Aveda salons, that paid to take a Ouidad course years ago. Her cuts are good, but styling is just okay. Nice thing is she is open to learning, so I go to most appointments with a new brush or product. Always have a hair clip, scarf, and gel with me...just in case. Often have left with wet hair, simply because it was easier. An Aveda session has never been cheap, so it would be nice to have it look nice for at least a few days. I remember the days when I had relaxed hair and left the salon feeling pretty.
I AGREE! where i live it is extremely hard to find stylists that cut curly hair. My stylist was taught by her teacher how to cut curly hair and she was the only one in her class who was taught. She cuts, washes, and styles my hair all for $50 dollars. I think it's super reasonable!! And she gets clients with curls much tighter than mine. She is the first stylist I have had that makes me feel seen finally!
I'm a Teacher and our licenses expires and we need to do "X" amount of hours of professional development to keep up with the field, and many other fields are the same. This industry should change! You are completely on the point! Change the curriculum, trial every type of texture, hair porosity and lengths, and then you can graduate.
Gurl!!!’ I’m so glad you finally addressed this. It’s crazy right? You are so on point with this. Amazing it’s 2024!!!! Thank you for bringing this to light!!!! U have so much respect for you and your channel. You have no idea how many times I’ve shared your channel with my family and friends. And when I say friends I mean the whole spectrum melting pot!!! You have educated so many of us. Thank you !!!!
I said the same thing when I joined cosmetology school. Trying to learn how to take care of my own curly hair was a big motivation. Like you said, maybe one chapter if you're lucky. I learned more after I graduated by watching a bunch of youtube vidoes. Like yours. So to that I say, thank you.
That was a loooong rant! However, NO.. hair stylist should be able to call themselves a hair stylist. If they can not style curles. Like you said...."Curly hair is common", ... These days!
This is so on point!! Not only do we need to change the current curriculum and cert/re-cert process, I want to know what the current curriculum is and to learn what the normal “standard of curly hair care” is. Maybe that would explain the number of times my hair has been thinned by people who don’t know how to work with curly hair.
Starts with the schools all over 👏🏽 I couldn’t agree with you more! I remember thinking some of the things they wanted us to do were ridiculous. I would have loved to do curly hair and learn everything with it! After I left school I had to teach myself EVERYTHING I KNOW! Makes me so mad (20k for school).
I co-sign alllllll of this! The most difficult part of being natural is finding someone who can cut/trim my hair WITHOUT blow drying it! I thank God that I found a natural hair stylist that knows what she is doing, but they are hard to come by.
There was a gal in town that a lot of curly folks go to and recommended. So I scheduled an appointment, showed up, sat down, and she told me “lets wash your hair and straighten it” 😵💫 I tried to explain to her that I get my hair cut dry and in its natural state and we ended the appointment there and I went back to my regular hair stylist
Oh gosh yes - I have gotten to the point please trim and leave it alone thanks! I have to say you’re right this channel has helped many including myself and both children.
You are preaching to the choir! We had this talk in our interview and I couldn’t agree more! As a curly hair stylist myself, I learned maybe the bare minimum at school but majority of my techniques I learned from you, Rayna (happycurlhappygirl) and doing my own hair! It needs to be taught! I’m so done with seeing hairstyles only being able to do straight hair! Especially in my province!
I agree with EVERYTHING You said!! I’m always terrified when getting a cut. The amount of money I spend on a curly cut is ridiculous! Styling, even at curly hair professionals, still isn’t exactly what I want. It’s so disappointing and frustrating. I’ve almost given up hope! You have helped me a lot!! I’d love to see you create a curriculum and sell it to schools and it becomes a major part of courses to be mastered before someone gets certified!! You’d change the game! Make history!!!
No one knows my coils better than me. I too am over compromised stylists. Too many were scissor happy and/or complained about the length of my hair when I would request roller sets as opposed to the fast blow dry and hot curl that would not hold up and cause damage. I appreciate your content.
I totally agree!! I stopped even looking because when 8 stop in or even ask if someone can help me with my curly crazy hair, they look at me like I have 3 heads! They have turned me down and lied that they have too many clients and can't fit me in their schedule. I'm so sick about it. It's been like that for a long time. I think if we are more knowledgeable about curls, we should be able to work in the salon as a curly specialist ourselves.
This post is HILARIOUS! You must have read my mind because yesterday I was legitimately thinking to myself that you and one other person(a professional cosmetologist on TH-cam) have taught me about my hair and I actually learned more here than on their platform. This comment may be long but whatever. I didn’t even know I had any curl to my hair until i was in my late 20s,lol….i have been following you for 5-7ish years and that’s when I finally was educated to control my crazy fine but curly hair(50+ years old). I haven’t let any stylist do anything other than trim my hair and wash it since I was 30 years old….i leave with a wet head. Everything/ you say about the licensing is spot on. As a medical professional I was required to do a certain amount of continuing education yearly-I did extra….any job that requires a license should truly verify that people can perform the tasks expected of them. I truly appreciate the education you’ve given me and the reviews of products you do….its so incredibly helpful and I trust you because of your honesty…❤
You just expressed all the frustration I have been living with. You look beautiful. Your curls look beautiful. I understand and want to be pampered too. You continue to pamper your own hair because it looks gorgeous. Those prices are not worth what they do for curly hair. Not that damn serious on the work effort needed. Simply needs skill and ability. It's not surgery but charging surgery charges.
Even though we have different hair types, I follow you because you are so real! I truly think we are curl friends even though we haven’t met lol. I love these types of videos!
I 100% agree!! Also, I feel there is a creative void where we all get the same cut; it doesn't matter if you like it, and it's pretty annoying. I don't enjoy having the exact same curly cut as everyone else in my city! Straight hair has multiple variations and types of cuts, and I think curly hair should be the same. I only see 1 or 2 variants, which is very sad. I'm not sure how it is in the US, but every single curly person here in Europe has the SAME CUT!
I clapped throughout this whole video because it’s all so true!! This reminds me of when I got a hair trial done for my wedding hair look and I really really wanted to wear my natural curls for my wedding but the trial results were frizzy and awful. The stylist I went to at the time was great at curly cuts but didn’t know how to style curly hair for formal occasions. I ended up redoing it on my own the next day so it would look good for a friend’s wedding. I felt so discouraged. I ended up going to a different stylist and having my hair curled with a curling iron for my wedding day look. I was pleased with how my hair looked on my wedding day but it obviously wasn’t my natural curls, which would have been nice.
With how many free videos there are there's no excuse for not knowing better. They all default to the horrible 2005 scrunch with mouse and not scrunching out the crunch. They don't give time to diffuse so I just leave with wet hair. Most of the time I also have to redo the style either same day or next day. I just take it as is, but girl you right. We need and deserve better than that.
This video was so important to make because I don't think there are enough licensed stylists who know how to cut curly hair. Last year was the year I decided once and for all that I would not be returning to the salon I went to after my stylist cut my ends with thinning shears and wrecked my ends. I am so much happier with my current stylist at a curly hair salon. Even though I only go a few times a year, I do go more often as I am trying to maintain an actual hairstyle. I can justify the cost of a curly cut as it's not as expensive as some places in my area and I have finally found a stylist I love and am building a good rapport and she knows my hair now. Thrilled to have finally found a great curly hair stylist.
Exactly this - on all the levels. I've had conversations about this so many times. The number of times I've sat in a chair and had stylists with no idea what to do with wavy/curly hair is probably 90% of the time. If they don't know how to work with the person sitting in the chair they can't call themselves 'professional' anything. They shouldn't even be hired. Same with skin tones for MUAs. 100% needs to be a change in the education. If the institutions do not train their students on all hair types they should be told to expand their syllabus or face being fined/closed down. Why send unqualified hair stylists out into the world - or leave those stylists to be forced to pay for even more training because their educator did not provide a comprehensive education? Where is the value for money argument? This is a problem created by the industry who then asks the customer to fix it for them OR, even worse, manipulates the argument and blames the customer for having a 'tricky, uncommon, challenging' hair type. Give me a break. My response is 'know your job or retrain - properly.' Also, the cost of a "curly hair cut" is crazy. Around £150 in the UK. I don't know who can afford that. I do not accept it!
Hi, As a professional hairstylist and curly hair specialist I totally understand how you feel. Most of the time in beauty school they don't teach us much about different types of hair to work with. They teach the basics, its on the stylist to learn themselves and get educated after school by taking more classes to help expand their knowledge and range of diffferent hair types and textures. Sadly some don't bother to learn anything new. As someone who also has super curly hair I know whats it like going to someone that doesn't know how to cut curls. Its a mess sometimes lol.
Yeeeessss!!! It has taken me so long to find someone who knew what they were doing and I'm already in my 40s 😭 I was always scared sitting in those other chairs. Just started cutting my own hair at home. People would say yes they could cut curly hair and once they put their hands on it, I knew different.
You are preaching to the choir! Last year before going into a protective style, I know I needed my ends trimmed pretty badly and I don’t trust myself to do it. So I went on Yelp to look for high rating salons, and I called a super/great clips that had darn near 5 stars, and asked if they were comfortable and knew how to trim curly hair that would be blow dried, and I was assured that they did, and made an appointment. When I go, there were two ladies in there, and the lady who cut my hair seemed very, very, very uncertain. honestly, I don’t think she’s ever cut my texture of here before. I knew my ends were rough since it had been some time since I had gotten a trim, but she literally took off between 5-6 inches of hair… Which I was shocked. There was another lady who was working on a gentleman who was trying to verbally culture through how to do it, and I should’ve just asked to wait for her, because the other lady seems super knowledgeable about naturally curly hair and how to cut it. For whatever reason, I felt bad for the other girl and I just let her cut my hair. I went in the salon with my hair about the middle of my back, and left with above shoulder length hair. Again I knew I needed a couple of inches cut off, and I was thinking at least 2 to from what I could see, but I think because my hair was blow dried and not bone straight, I think she ended up taking off more than what was needed (she was also trying to wet my hair before she cut it and both myself and the other lady had to explain that’s not how you cut curly hair)😢😢😢
As a curly girl and a stylist I take so much pride in specializing in curly hair bc I myself have curly hair! And I understand how it’s so scary and I do not charges crap ton just bc we got more hair
Yes!! I suffer from salon chair muteness too. 😅😅 I know what you mean about the older generation not knowing about curly hair. I actually kearney everything from you!! Even for my kids. ❤
I paid 80$ to get a curly cut at Ulta, the way she washed my hair and cut it wet should have been my first sign that she did not know how to handle curly hair. At the end of the haircut she asked only if I wanted it straightened or blown out as my only styling options 😭 so expensive for nothing, it looked nice but I was hoping for curly hair tips and to walk out with definition
I've been a natural for 13 yrs now. This is why i do my own hair plus learned a few tricks from cutting,box braids,shaving,coloring, and love crochet thanks to all of you.I continue to be a diva on budget😊
Absolutely agree I’ve been to salons and they’d butchered a cut / said they know how to style my texture and don’t even ask for hair pics before then /charge for length and thickness all to pay a few hundred dollars and be unhappy / it’s really like we already need to come half way done detangled and all
OMG!!! I was in Pittsburgh for an event and wanted to have someone do my hair for less stress, as it would take me longer. Long curly hair here. I went to a very well known salon specializing on curly hair styling. I ended up walking this individual through my styling. I was fuming that I had to pay for a service that she should’ve known what to do since she’s at what is considered a top curly hair salon. Waste of money and time. Found my hair person in NYC and will not travel anywhere without going to her if I need it. The struggle is real!!!
Everything you said was so on point🙌🏽🙌🏽 i remember going to a black salon that was highly recommended and getting most of my hair cut off because she did not know how to cut curly hair. I have also been in salon that say they can cut curly hair and have left out so disappointed. It's sad that now if I see someone charge less then $200 for a curly cut I'm afraid to go to them. It should be a prerequisite to be able to do curly hair and not an after thought. I have left more hair salon needing to retouch my own hair done not. That is a shame
Definitely needs to be a change!! I always have to just do my own hair. Let’s not talk about the new trend of head spas and they don’t know what to do either 😩
The first 40 seconds I was nodding my head like a maniac. YES! You are in no way professional, if you have no idea how to style curly hair! SPEAK QUEEEN!!!
Girl you nailed it on so many levels…especially the cost for curly cuts👏🏽 I literally get my hair cut once a year because it’s so damn expensive. Once it grows out I have to deal with the unevenness or try snipping off the ends myself because I can’t afford the maintenance. I wish we could pamper ourselves regularly at the salon like so many others do but I’d have to get a part-time job just to upkeep my hair appointments. Equality is definitely warranted in the hair community and you spoke truth today, Bianca…we thank you‼️
This one day I went to a salon my hair was straight when he start washing it he said you tricked me, I was like whatttt.
I'm looking for someone in San Diego for a curly cut. The cheapest I've found so far is $350🤯
Girl, I suggest you to do it yourself
Also, remember, just cause someone is licensed doesn’t mean they finished at the top of their class.
Or I just cause someone has a license doesn't mean that they know how to drive, or that they can help people with mental and emotional problems a.k.a. a good counselor/therapist
Facts!
@@skb4055 hey, if we was talking about Harvard and the fancy schools, be it first in the class or last in the class, they’d be still have bragging rights…I give them props for seeing it through. All we asking is some inclusivity in proper curly styling…I sit with stylists and it’s to teach them how to style my hair…
@@mpkblydspkbl745, understood. Even Harvard graduates have to back the bragging rights up with results. I agree with Bianca but I still say we should find licensed cosmetologist who can make this happen. We have to start some where but naturals don’t use chemicals and that is the main component of requiring to license.
It’s so sad how beauty standards have affected actual education process..
Bianca is preaching this Sunday! These ppl literally have no idea what they are doing. It’s a shame. This is why I don’t like going to a stylist., I went in August for the first time in years to get a hair cut and of course she blew out my hair and chopped off way too much. AFTER I told her my hair has massive shrinkage. They don’t listen and don’t care. Then she proceeds to style me with mousse and tried to fluff out my hair and said I wanted volume. I then told her I hated volume and never use mousse. She said why didn’t you tell me, BC YOU DIDN’T ASK.
I went straight home and washed my hair and styled it myself with gel.
This! 👏 What do they say, 80 some percent of the population has textured hair, yet it’s not the “norm”?! We all have so much trauma from salon visits. The stories I hear from my coaching clients about their experiences are maddening. This is one reason I started offering them even though I’m not a “certified stylist.”
Where does change even begin? We have to start increasing the demand by asking for curl experienced stylist for them to even realize they need to improve their education.
It’s my understanding that the instruction is focused on making sure they can pass their state board exam. So, until the exams are updated, the education won’t change.
That part!
As a professional licensed hair stylist who specializes in curly/natural hair your video speaks to my SOUL!!!! I agree that if you can't work with ALL textures you can't call/consider yourself to be a professional hairstylist. I'm licensed in Texas, and in school we were not required or given proper instruction on how to do curly/natural hair (and I hated that it was referred to as "textured" hair). The only classes on curly/natural hair (which were only about 3-4 classes during a whole year) was how to tame or straighten the hair to suit euro-centric standards. Right now only Louisiana, Minnesota, Connecticut, and New York require cosmetology schools to include it the curriculum.
This is why I'm so passionate about the services I provide to my clients. Growing up it was so hard to care for and style my curls. It wasn't until I was almost 30 that I finally was able to figure it out and get a cut without having to straighten my hair. Nothing makes me happier than educating my clients and having them fall in love with their natural hair. Now, I will say when it comes to the pricing for cuts, for me it's not so much the scarcity of my services, but because of the time and cost of products.
💯 right on. I have different curl patterns and it's frustrating. I literally had a stylist complain I had so much hair and thick. Like she was exhausted and it was just a trim. 🙄 I used to perm my hair in the 80s just to get a uniform pattern. I stopped when I got pregnant. I'm 59, and stopped dying my hair years ago. It's now about being gentle and acceptance due to my sensitive skin rebelling. Gray curly hair has its own complexities. I don't like getting cuts or trims, even with a sweet stylist. I just try to keep ends from frizzing. And as you age, you have to constantly adjust. And I have educate myself with channels like yours.
Yes!!!! Exactly the grey also changes things your so right on - gosh when I was in my twenties they would look at my hair as I say in the chair thinking oh please don’t touch it if you don’t know….
I’m terrified about going to a salon for my curly hair including for my girls. I refuse to go. TH-cam University is my educational platform that makes my daughters look fabulous. And I can save hundreds of dollars. Not in this economy will I spend money to look like over processed cocker spaniel.😂 And I love cocker spaniels. So cute.
When I tell you this is so true! I’ve been a stylist and makeup Artist for 20yrs. I’ve learned styling curly hair styling my Puerto Rican family and eventually on myself when I decided to grow my curly hair long. It is crazy that as a very old profession, it isn’t something that is focused on in the certification process.
I'm a curly girl. Similar curl pattern to yours. It's a nightmare for us curly girls to go to most salons. Most stylist have no clue but to straighten the hair with chemicals. I do know how to do my own hair because like you said I've been doing it all my life. In the past I've gone to a "popular brand name" hair school just for a shampoo/condition/scalp cleaning treatment. I tell the stylist in advance that they don't have to style my hair because most of the time they wouldn't know how to anyways. Keep preaching for us naturally curly girls sister. By the way I've not had a chemical in my hair for over 15 years...I'm real deal natural. 🙂
I live in Atlanta, GA and here there is a new trend of Head Spas, where you go and get a hair/scalp treatment that focalizes on massaging and relaxation. Out of all the salons that have opened up, I have not seen one tailor to curly hair aftercare. The procedure once the head spa is completed, there is a room where there is a mirror and blow dryer. The norm is for clients to "blow dry" their hair so that they don't leave with wet hair. If us curly girls use only a blow dryer for the aftercare.... we would be lookin A HOT MESS walking out..... Their pages will intentionally mentioned that they also cater to curly girls but their after care says quite the opposite. The idea sounds amazing to get a head massage but I refuse to give any of them my money if the expectation is for me to bring in my own hair products and do it myself after.... Had to rant. Your rant inspired my rant that hadn't been vocalized yet. I hope others have noticed what I'm noticing because it's not right. Anyway, love you Bianca and thank you for speaking out on these issues that all of us have either experienced or noticed!
I've wanted to try this but won't due to them having to style my hair afterwards.
I live in Atlanta too and saw an ad for one yesterday. I immediately went to the FAQs because I was like “what do they do with your hair afterwards?” And of course they said they just blow dry. What really got me was them saying depending on how curly or could your hair is, the don’t recommend the scalp treatments because it will lead to your hair being tangled but my question is, why not just detangle May hair once you’re done with the scalp massage? And maybe have an option to just braid my hair or something if I don’t want it blown out. It’s like damn, just because I have curly or coil hair I can’t enjoy this form or self care smh.
@@chocolatelover9109 Yessss!!!! Exactly!!! I keep seeing the same thing! Ridiculous… so comforting to know I’m not the only one who shares this frustration!!
Thank you for this…and say it louder for the people in the back. A black stylist doesn’t mean they know how to do curly hair.My stylist went out of the country and I needed my hair done. I went to another black stylist….an actual friend of hers…that was trained at the same time as she and who actually worked in a salon to together at a point….so I naively thought I could trust her. Welp I was wrong. She cut my hair and the cut looked like a staircase. It was horrible. When my stylist returned and saw the cut she was furious. When I told her who did she was mortified. She outright said she should know that you can’t cut curly hair like you cut straight hair and and said she would talk to her when she has a cooler head as to not upset her friend but to point her in the right direction. Now, when my stylist is going out of the country my hair goes into box braids for a month until she returns. It’s ridiculous that I have to plan my hair care around my stylist’s life because I can trust others to do it. So thank you for this video.
You REALLY ate down with this one!!! I have different stylist for my curly hair vs my weave styles. MIND YOU when I go to the girls that do my weaves I know they are going to snatching through my hair to blow dry it because they don’t know how to detangle my hair. Mind you, everybody in the situation is black 🥸
😮💨😮💨 girl. I feel you! That would make me wanna show up already blow dried and detangled but then again… that’s THEIR job! 🙈
GIRL!!!!! Let's keep going on this!!! When I moved to Boston and looked for a curly hair salon I almost had a heart attack. A 30 mins appointment is $100 minimum!!!! I even considered going to a regular salon, but then I remembered that none of them know how to deal with curly hair. Mind you I am 2c-3a curly girl, and I haven't been able to trust anyone who isn't a curly hair specialist. Short story: came across with this IG account of a hair salon, they do a beautiful job with color. They posted a video of a curly, who happened to be in my school so I know what her hair looks like... They colored it, beautifully! BUT when it came to style it I grinned! Even the stylist, who was the salon owner, looked uncomfortable, and I thought, how come none of the 'professional hair stylists' know how to do at least the basics on curly hair?!
To end my rant I wanna say that I used to get trims every 3-4 months because that's what my hair needs, now I have to pull it up to 6-8 months which is when I get to go to PR and can see my stylist.
I live in the Boston area and I’ve never had a good experience with a cut and don’t get me started on styling!! I have wavy/curly very fine, very frizzy hair. I’ve learned how to style from videos but I can’t get a good shape anywhere. I just use Manes by Mel videos to cut my hair now. It’s not exactly what I want but it’s better than any cut I’ve ever gotten.
Also, I’ve always had a picture in my head that I should feel seen and heard when I go to a salon. And after spending tons of money, I should feel and look beautiful when I leave. It’s never the case. When the stylist styles my hair, I usually look and feel ugly and resent having to pay. Now I just get the roots touched up and leave the salon with wet hair.
I haven’t stepped in a salon for my own haircut or style in 6-7 years. Partly because they are anti-long hair (give them an inch and they take off 7, no JOKE), partly because they have no idea how to manage even WAVY hair. It’s so much worse for the curlier textures. And this was on top of having been rudely handled by condescending stylists who detested me for not knowing how to manage waves they themselves were clueless on!!! If professionals can’t act and perform professionally, then they are not professionals period.
You are so true! I literally have them show me how much they're going to trim. Sad!!!
THIS! I've bbeen rocking shoulder length hair for at least 8 years, but now I am growing it. Last December (2023) I decided I needed a haircut. I lost some 5 inches of length.
I completely Agree! I remember going to a “professional” stylist 20 yrs ago to get my hair done for prom after my regular stylist bailed on me, and when I tell you I was in TEARS!! I almost didn’t go to prom after seeing the birds nest that women left on my head. I still don’t trust hair stylist 😢😢
YES to EVERYTHING you said. My senior prom 1992, I left the salon, drove home crying and re-washed my hair. Went to prom in my natural curly self-styled pineapple “up-do.” I also have salon chair muteness and stopped paying stylists for sub standard treatment and TERRIBLE cuts more than 20 years ago when I began to cut my own hair. It became a huge red flag to me every time I sat in a salon chair and the stylist would ask “do you ever wear your hair straight?” I knew instantly that stylist had NO idea how to handle curly hair and wanted to give me a straight cut and a blowout which would never look good after I wash and style curly at home. I decided to treat myself and I went to a great curl specialist 6-7 years ago and agree with you that they are educating and such but yeah…I do NOT have $150-$200 to spend on a cut so I continue to do my hair myself after that one visit…just didn’t feel a value in it personally. I have learned more from you and others I follow than I did from that specialist. Thank you for everything you do for us! ❤🫶🏻🙌🏻💕
I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.
I HAVEN'T BEEN TO A SALON IN OVER 30 YEARS BECAUSE THEY DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CURLY HAIR
I agree with everything you said. In education, we have to renew our teaching licenses every few years. In between those renews, we are required to stay up to date on curriculum through professional developments and classes. I feel if you work with the public, you should constantly stay up to date. Society is constantly evolving, and more people are embracing their natural hair texture ❤!
Thank you for voicing what so many of us have been feeling for years! I feel your pain and hope more stylists will advocate for learning how to not only style but also cut curly hair. We are a huge market!
SO TRUE! Every damn time I have gone to a “professional” I always have to do it at home because I hate the outcome. Can we also talk about “if” you do actually find a curly hairstylist they charge you a GRIP, also making you brush your hair prior to the appointment etc. Like wtf are they even doing paying 300+. It’s not even fair. I literally haven’t gone in over 15 years because I’m so upset after every appointment.
You hit it on the head with this one Bianca!!! Paying $300+ for a cut/color and an additional cost for styling and it looks like crap when you get out the chair! Has happened to me each and every time!!!! I can honestly say maybe one or two times it has looked OK after leaving the salon. I go home pissed after paying all this money and STILL have to use MY products to style my hair. I have 3b/3c hair and stylists always tend to use products that are NOT for my type and won't hold through the car ride home! Girl you did it with this one!!!!
You doing a lot of preaching here and all truth!!! I learned from you, CurlieCrys, and Kimberly Cherell. Y’all helped me a bunch to master my curls. There is one hair stylist that helped me with product choices and he had to learn what products work.
The hairstylist from my culture (Dominican Republic) do not specialize in curly, coily, kinky hair, although a vast majority of our population has these textures. Growing up i was always told I had “bad hair”, for which the solution was always a relaxer. Once I learned to care for my own hair, my hair has thrived. Now i go back and forth between my curls and straight hair and have not been to a professional in years. I’ve learned to trim my hair as well.
It's the same here in South Africa. I shouldn't have to _hunt_ for someone who offers the options I need.
Thankfully is changing here in DR. I can now get my 3c/4a hair styled in high end salons no biggie.
@@SheylaMI’m so glad to hear that. I only learned to care for my hair properly as an adult, so I’m really glad young people in DR now have more options ❤
Yeeeees! Omg! I completely agree. Luckily I found a great stylist 11 years ago that specializes in textured hair of all kinds. And she’s an Asian woman!! 👏🏽👏🏽
Interesting because the only woman who will do my hair in a shop full of caucasian women is an Asian woman. The rest of them refuse to touch me. She will wash and cut it ( my hair is wavy, I'm bi racial kinda 3a,b) or sometimes I blow it out before I come. The others will cut it if I straighten it
Before finding a curly hair salon, I would bring scarves or hats to my appointments and cover my hair as soon as I left the salon. I never once walked out of a salon properly styled so could never go out directly after an appointment. You pay all that money just to go home and restyle. My current stylist went to NYC to learn the Diva cut on her own. I will also mention that in a Canadian city of over a million people, we one have one curly hair salon with only 2 stylists. Bianca, I have been saying everything you're saying for years!!! Oh, and the comment about black stylists was spot on.
girl I wish there was a repost option on youtube lol! straight FACTS! we still have such a long way to go 🥲
I totally agree with you! This is ridiculous! It can be frustrating when professional hairstylists lack knowledge about curly hair, especially considering the unique care and techniques required to maintain and style it properly. Curly hair varies in texture, curl pattern, and needs, and not having expertise in these areas can lead to damaging practices or unsatisfactory results. It highlights a gap in cosmetology education, which sometimes prioritizes straight hair techniques over textured hair. Ideally, all hairstylists should be trained in the diverse range of hair types so they can provide the best service for all clients. Inclusivity in beauty services is key, especially as more people embrace their natural curls.
You’ve definitely taught me majority of what I know about caring for my natural hair. I don’t use sulfate, straighten my hair, or use silicones anymore bc of you and my hair is thriving!!!! It is longer and healthier than it’s ever been.
OMG yes, I can't even find a curly hair stylist. I have made it a point not to let anyone touching my hair because of the experiences I've had.👏👏👏👏👏
I am so thankful for you. Before I found you I didn't even realize I HAD curly /wavy hair. I just thought it was "frizzy" and "hard to manage" . You taught me how to style my hair and that there were products that were best for my hair. You SAVED my hair ❤
You are so welcome! That is exactly why I do what I do! 🥰
YES THIS. Also - what on earth is with professional hairstylists claiming they are a ‘curly stylist’ after taking a single diva curl workshop. I had a curly hairstylist LOAD my hair up with leave in conditioner and hairspray - my fine 2c hair was plastered to my scalp, hard, dry ; yet greasy at the same time. 175.00 for a REGULAR long layered cut and this styling l - and i had to shower when I got home🙃. The sad fact is this is not a one off.
OH MY GOSH!! this video is so needed. I stopped going to salons for this exact reason! I have tried just going to salons for treatments and trims for a long....... time and just styling it on my own because I was tired of going to the salon and getting home and looking like a cheapet. I finally realized I had to figure out how to treat and style my hair myself when I got pregnant with my daughter and thought I cant have her deal with the same issues. Thanks to You tubers like you (love your channel!!) I have learned so... much that know I have been able to pass on my knowledge to others. It took me a long time to love my hair and I wanted her to know her hair is beautiful too. Many of these stylists only know how to style and has no clue how to take care of hair especially curly tight coiled textured hair. It is truly sad to know that product lines have grown so much buy the hair professionals have not.
Absolutely! I just did it three weeks ago! I needed my hair colored and wanted my ends trimmed without having to drive 6 hours to a curly hair specialist. I have been to this person and she knows how to comb through my hair without hurting me, she knows what products to use and even has implemented some of these products for use and purchase in a predominately white salon. Did I mention that she is white with biracial kids? She is not great with styling my hair but tells me that before I sit in the chair. She also tries by watching videos and asking questions. I always am prepared to either style my own hair after the service or do it again when I get home before going anywhere else in public. Will I continue to go to her? Yes , I will because she tries! I totally agree that this is something that needs to be taught before getting your professional license.
Yes its about listen and to try...to be honest about your skills but willing to learn.How can you trust a hairdresser when you have the feeling your hair is a burden to them?!
I've done it. Thank you for saying all this. It's so important for everyone to hear!!
Hi Bianca! First of all, so glad to see you back here on TH-cam :) Secondly, I agree with you as a wavy/curly hair girlie. I struggled with this for years, until I found trust in my boyfriend's cousin who doesn't have curly hair, but knows how to handle mine. It's 2024, get it together "professional" hair community! I learned how to care for my curly hair from you and Penny. Been a follower since the beginning 💕
Thank you for vlogging. I learned so much from your vlogs on my natural hair journey! None of the hair salons I went to since my teens even suggested that I could wear my natural hair! Going natural is the best thing I have ever done with my hair. It is healthier, easier and less time consuming thanks to vloggers like you!!🎉
You know what I’ve noticed about a lot of black hair stylists. They judge the ‘health’ of your afro hair based on how ‘good’ it looks once it is straightened. If the ends are frizzy and dry (which will be natural as it’s the oldest part of your hair) they will tell you your hair is damaged. I don’t like the idea that our kinky/coily hair health is judged by a standard that it is not natural for us.
Finally the truth is out! Another amazing video! It's wonderful to feel seen ❤❤
Yes, and also they need to learn how to style variations of curly hair. Not all curly haired girls have thick coiled hair, many have fine curly/wavy hair. Not all hair products work on different textures. Please hair industry get in the game and help us out!!! I love my hairdresser but I always tell her to leave my hair wet so I can do it at home. She’s not offended cause she knows I have my own technique and I have yet to have any hairdresser know how to style my fine curly hair.
i love everything about this video!! it’s so real & unfortunately so true
Your skin is glowing 🌟
I only go to get a trim. BUT she has to blow dry it to trim it and pleads with me to wear it straight. NO! I bring my products go in the bathroom and walk out with it curly...🤨
Exactly !
I never thanked you on your platforms for sharing different curly hair salons all around the country. I was so desperate looking for a salon a year after I did a big chop-done by my aunt who is a great Dominican hairstylist if what you need a is a blowout lol. I’ve been following you for years and I’m so glad I knew I could trust you, because even tho you are on the other side of the country you have no idea how you made my life a ton easier. You recommended whom is now my stylist, Kat, she’s the owner of The Main Attraction Hair Salon in East Rutherford, NJ. She’s amazing, very knowledgeable and helpful. Her salon is very clean and nice. I must add, her staff(hair stylists) are also very knowledgeable and friendly. I love all of them and would definitely trust them all when it comes to styling. And that’s all thanks to you and your devotion to research and share with us all your knowledge. Years of hard work have not gone unnoticed and we appreciate you and I want you to feel appreciated. I love your channel and the community that you’ve built, and just know that I have loved it since the first day I found you! Since the day I said to myself that I should embrace my beautiful natural hair and luckily found your videos. Thank youuuu 💯💞💞💞✨
Girl you went in........ I definitely understand. I have sat in the salon chair many times and have been asked right off the bat how to I style my hair type, which is 3C because they were more used to 4c and Im sitting there like you are the one with the license, really!!
AMEN! I have been natural for over 20 years and it has been a roller-coaster. Everything from the "snatching" as they did not know how to detangle, to not using enough conditioner, suggesting we relax it "just a bit to loosen the curl", etc. Many black stylists used products that were too strong for my 3C curls. I've had months where I did not even want to try to fix my hair, because it needed time to heal from the last appointment. You and Mell changed my life with knowledge, products, and empowerment. Have been using the same stylist for years. She is a white lady, working for Aveda salons, that paid to take a Ouidad course years ago. Her cuts are good, but styling is just okay. Nice thing is she is open to learning, so I go to most appointments with a new brush or product. Always have a hair clip, scarf, and gel with me...just in case. Often have left with wet hair, simply because it was easier. An Aveda session has never been cheap, so it would be nice to have it look nice for at least a few days. I remember the days when I had relaxed hair and left the salon feeling pretty.
I AGREE! where i live it is extremely hard to find stylists that cut curly hair. My stylist was taught by her teacher how to cut curly hair and she was the only one in her class who was taught. She cuts, washes, and styles my hair all for $50 dollars. I think it's super reasonable!! And she gets clients with curls much tighter than mine. She is the first stylist I have had that makes me feel seen finally!
You hit it on the head! I can not even tell you how many times I have had to come home and fix my hair
I'm glad you spoke about the price of curly cut. The prices are outrageous.
I'm a Teacher and our licenses expires and we need to do "X" amount of hours of professional development to keep up with the field, and many other fields are the same. This industry should change! You are completely on the point! Change the curriculum, trial every type of texture, hair porosity and lengths, and then you can graduate.
Yes! So true… I’ve been in the hair and beauty industry for over 30 years and the amount of people that don’t have a clue is so embarrassing!
Agree with you, I had to restyle my hair after leaving the salon and is very frustrating
Ugh! I'm so sorry that happened! 😩
@@BiancaReneeToday thank you
Gurl!!!’ I’m so glad you finally addressed this. It’s crazy right? You are so on point with this. Amazing it’s 2024!!!! Thank you for bringing this to light!!!! U have so much respect for you and your channel. You have no idea how many times I’ve shared your channel with my family and friends. And when I say friends I mean the whole spectrum melting pot!!! You have educated so many of us. Thank you !!!!
I said the same thing when I joined cosmetology school. Trying to learn how to take care of my own curly hair was a big motivation. Like you said, maybe one chapter if you're lucky. I learned more after I graduated by watching a bunch of youtube vidoes. Like yours. So to that I say, thank you.
That was a loooong rant! However, NO.. hair stylist should be able to call themselves a hair stylist. If they can not style curles. Like you said...."Curly hair is common", ...
These days!
EXACTLY!!! Products without techniques can DO SO MUCH!
This is so on point!! Not only do we need to change the current curriculum and cert/re-cert process, I want to know what the current curriculum is and to learn what the normal “standard of curly hair care” is. Maybe that would explain the number of times my hair has been thinned by people who don’t know how to work with curly hair.
Starts with the schools all over 👏🏽 I couldn’t agree with you more! I remember thinking some of the things they wanted us to do were ridiculous. I would have loved to do curly hair and learn everything with it! After I left school I had to teach myself EVERYTHING I KNOW! Makes me so mad (20k for school).
I co-sign alllllll of this! The most difficult part of being natural is finding someone who can cut/trim my hair WITHOUT blow drying it! I thank God that I found a natural hair stylist that knows what she is doing, but they are hard to come by.
There was a gal in town that a lot of curly folks go to and recommended. So I scheduled an appointment, showed up, sat down, and she told me “lets wash your hair and straighten it” 😵💫 I tried to explain to her that I get my hair cut dry and in its natural state and we ended the appointment there and I went back to my regular hair stylist
Oh gosh yes - I have gotten to the point please trim and leave it alone thanks! I have to say you’re right this channel has helped many including myself and both children.
I can relate ! its so hard finding a good hairstylist
You are preaching to the choir! We had this talk in our interview and I couldn’t agree more! As a curly hair stylist myself, I learned maybe the bare minimum at school but majority of my techniques I learned from you, Rayna (happycurlhappygirl) and doing my own hair! It needs to be taught! I’m so done with seeing hairstyles only being able to do straight hair! Especially in my province!
I agree with EVERYTHING You said!! I’m always terrified when getting a cut. The amount of money I spend on a curly cut is ridiculous! Styling, even at curly hair professionals, still isn’t exactly what I want. It’s so disappointing and frustrating. I’ve almost given up hope! You have helped me a lot!! I’d love to see you create a curriculum and sell it to schools and it becomes a major part of courses to be mastered before someone gets certified!! You’d change the game! Make history!!!
It’s not just hair community it every where. You can go to school for something but certifications are still needed well rounded
No one knows my coils better than me. I too am over compromised stylists. Too many were scissor happy and/or complained about the length of my hair when I would request roller sets as opposed to the fast blow dry and hot curl that would not hold up and cause damage. I appreciate your content.
I totally agree!! I stopped even looking because when 8 stop in or even ask if someone can help me with my curly crazy hair, they look at me like I have 3 heads! They have turned me down and lied that they have too many clients and can't fit me in their schedule. I'm so sick about it. It's been like that for a long time. I think if we are more knowledgeable about curls, we should be able to work in the salon as a curly specialist ourselves.
This post is HILARIOUS! You must have read my mind because yesterday I was legitimately thinking to myself that you and one other person(a professional cosmetologist on TH-cam) have taught me about my hair and I actually learned more here than on their platform. This comment may be long but whatever. I didn’t even know I had any curl to my hair until i was in my late 20s,lol….i have been following you for 5-7ish years and that’s when I finally was educated to control my crazy fine but curly hair(50+ years old).
I haven’t let any stylist do anything other than trim my hair and wash it since I was 30 years old….i leave with a wet head. Everything/ you say about the licensing is spot on. As a medical professional I was required to do a certain amount of continuing education yearly-I did extra….any job that requires a license should truly verify that people can perform the tasks expected of them. I truly appreciate the education you’ve given me and the reviews of products you do….its so incredibly helpful and I trust you because of your honesty…❤
Thank you so much! You made my day 🥰
🗣 🗣 YESSS. SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!!
On pointttttttttttt legit every minute of this was facts!!! Me paying money to then have to do it again myself is wilddddddd
You just expressed all the frustration I have been living with. You look beautiful. Your curls look beautiful. I understand and want to be pampered too. You continue to pamper your own hair because it looks gorgeous. Those prices are not worth what they do for curly hair. Not that damn serious on the work effort needed. Simply needs skill and ability. It's not surgery but charging surgery charges.
You have definitely helped me understand my own plus my other two daughters about curly hair ❤❤
Even though we have different hair types, I follow you because you are so real! I truly think we are curl friends even though we haven’t met lol. I love these types of videos!
19:50 the crazy thing is that some people will be shocked to hear this! Thank you thank you thank you for talking about it this!
I wish I would take this 4C fro to a super cuts LOL! We’d just be looking at each other like “welp!”
😂😂🙈🙈 so true!
This is so true! It’s hard to even find stylists who specialize in natural hair
I 100% agree!! Also, I feel there is a creative void where we all get the same cut; it doesn't matter if you like it, and it's pretty annoying. I don't enjoy having the exact same curly cut as everyone else in my city! Straight hair has multiple variations and types of cuts, and I think curly hair should be the same. I only see 1 or 2 variants, which is very sad. I'm not sure how it is in the US, but every single curly person here in Europe has the SAME CUT!
I clapped throughout this whole video because it’s all so true!! This reminds me of when I got a hair trial done for my wedding hair look and I really really wanted to wear my natural curls for my wedding but the trial results were frizzy and awful. The stylist I went to at the time was great at curly cuts but didn’t know how to style curly hair for formal occasions. I ended up redoing it on my own the next day so it would look good for a friend’s wedding. I felt so discouraged. I ended up going to a different stylist and having my hair curled with a curling iron for my wedding day look. I was pleased with how my hair looked on my wedding day but it obviously wasn’t my natural curls, which would have been nice.
Great topic thank you so much for being brave and saying the truth. That’s why I follow you ❤
I have salon chair muteness 🤣🤣🤣 also... you know why they don't know how to do our hair... come on... you know.... 😂
I agree!. Change is needed.
With how many free videos there are there's no excuse for not knowing better. They all default to the horrible 2005 scrunch with mouse and not scrunching out the crunch. They don't give time to diffuse so I just leave with wet hair. Most of the time I also have to redo the style either same day or next day. I just take it as is, but girl you right. We need and deserve better than that.
Ugh!! So true and that sucks!! Just not right…
This video was so important to make because I don't think there are enough licensed stylists who know how to cut curly hair. Last year was the year I decided once and for all that I would not be returning to the salon I went to after my stylist cut my ends with thinning shears and wrecked my ends.
I am so much happier with my current stylist at a curly hair salon. Even though I only go a few times a year, I do go more often as I am trying to maintain an actual hairstyle. I can justify the cost of a curly cut as it's not as expensive as some places in my area and I have finally found a stylist I love and am building a good rapport and she knows my hair now. Thrilled to have finally found a great curly hair stylist.
Exactly this - on all the levels. I've had conversations about this so many times. The number of times I've sat in a chair and had stylists with no idea what to do with wavy/curly hair is probably 90% of the time. If they don't know how to work with the person sitting in the chair they can't call themselves 'professional' anything. They shouldn't even be hired. Same with skin tones for MUAs.
100% needs to be a change in the education. If the institutions do not train their students on all hair types they should be told to expand their syllabus or face being fined/closed down. Why send unqualified hair stylists out into the world - or leave those stylists to be forced to pay for even more training because their educator did not provide a comprehensive education? Where is the value for money argument? This is a problem created by the industry who then asks the customer to fix it for them OR, even worse, manipulates the argument and blames the customer for having a 'tricky, uncommon, challenging' hair type. Give me a break. My response is 'know your job or retrain - properly.'
Also, the cost of a "curly hair cut" is crazy. Around £150 in the UK. I don't know who can afford that. I do not accept it!
This is the TRUTH, girl!! Facts! 😢
Hi, As a professional hairstylist and curly hair specialist I totally understand how you feel. Most of the time in beauty school they don't teach us much about different types of hair to work with. They teach the basics, its on the stylist to learn themselves and get educated after school by taking more classes to help expand their knowledge and range of diffferent hair types and textures. Sadly some don't bother to learn anything new. As someone who also has super curly hair I know whats it like going to someone that doesn't know how to cut curls. Its a mess sometimes lol.
Yeeeessss!!! It has taken me so long to find someone who knew what they were doing and I'm already in my 40s 😭 I was always scared sitting in those other chairs. Just started cutting my own hair at home. People would say yes they could cut curly hair and once they put their hands on it, I knew different.
You are preaching to the choir! Last year before going into a protective style, I know I needed my ends trimmed pretty badly and I don’t trust myself to do it. So I went on Yelp to look for high rating salons, and I called a super/great clips that had darn near 5 stars, and asked if they were comfortable and knew how to trim curly hair that would be blow dried, and I was assured that they did, and made an appointment.
When I go, there were two ladies in there, and the lady who cut my hair seemed very, very, very uncertain. honestly, I don’t think she’s ever cut my texture of here before. I knew my ends were rough since it had been some time since I had gotten a trim, but she literally took off between 5-6 inches of hair… Which I was shocked. There was another lady who was working on a gentleman who was trying to verbally culture through how to do it, and I should’ve just asked to wait for her, because the other lady seems super knowledgeable about naturally curly hair and how to cut it. For whatever reason, I felt bad for the other girl and I just let her cut my hair.
I went in the salon with my hair about the middle of my back, and left with above shoulder length hair. Again I knew I needed a couple of inches cut off, and I was thinking at least 2 to from what I could see, but I think because my hair was blow dried and not bone straight, I think she ended up taking off more than what was needed (she was also trying to wet my hair before she cut it and both myself and the other lady had to explain that’s not how you cut curly hair)😢😢😢
I haven’t gone to a stylist in over a decade. I’m not surprised nothing has changed
As a curly girl and a stylist I take so much pride in specializing in curly hair bc I myself have curly hair! And I understand how it’s so scary and I do not charges crap ton just bc we got more hair
Yes!! I suffer from salon chair muteness too. 😅😅 I know what you mean about the older generation not knowing about curly hair. I actually kearney everything from you!! Even for my kids. ❤
❤ LOVE THIS. You said it all and you said it perfectly. Thank you!!
I paid 80$ to get a curly cut at Ulta, the way she washed my hair and cut it wet should have been my first sign that she did not know how to handle curly hair. At the end of the haircut she asked only if I wanted it straightened or blown out as my only styling options 😭 so expensive for nothing, it looked nice but I was hoping for curly hair tips and to walk out with definition
Consider that a good hair cut. $80 for a hair cut let alone for curly hair is cheap cheap cheap
Same. I I got a curly cut at ulta and the guy did not know how to use a diffuser so he blow dryed my hair normally and it turned out horrible.
I've been a natural for 13 yrs now. This is why i do my own hair plus learned a few tricks from cutting,box braids,shaving,coloring, and love crochet thanks to all of you.I continue to be a diva on budget😊
Absolutely agree I’ve been to salons and they’d butchered a cut / said they know how to style my texture and don’t even ask for hair pics before then /charge for length and thickness all to pay a few hundred dollars and be unhappy / it’s really like we already need to come half way done detangled and all
OMG!!! I was in Pittsburgh for an event and wanted to have someone do my hair for less stress, as it would take me longer. Long curly hair here. I went to a very well known salon specializing on curly hair styling. I ended up walking this individual through my styling. I was fuming that I had to pay for a service that she should’ve known what to do since she’s at what is considered a top curly hair salon. Waste of money and time.
Found my hair person in NYC and will not travel anywhere without going to her if I need it. The struggle is real!!!
Everything you said was so on point🙌🏽🙌🏽 i remember going to a black salon that was highly recommended and getting most of my hair cut off because she did not know how to cut curly hair. I have also been in salon that say they can cut curly hair and have left out so disappointed. It's sad that now if I see someone charge less then $200 for a curly cut I'm afraid to go to them. It should be a prerequisite to be able to do curly hair and not an after thought. I have left more hair salon needing to retouch my own hair done not. That is a shame
Definitely needs to be a change!! I always have to just do my own hair. Let’s not talk about the new trend of head spas and they don’t know what to do either 😩
The first 40 seconds I was nodding my head like a maniac. YES! You are in no way professional, if you have no idea how to style curly hair! SPEAK QUEEEN!!!