I committed to doing this on an entire round last weekend. For the first few holes I had some mishits thin, but I stuck with it. After I found the bottom of the swing, the rest of the round was fantastic. Hit the ball clean and straight nearly every time. One thing I did notice was that I had almost zero stress on my lower back. I also gained a few yards in distance. I think it’s because I’m using only big muscles and the swing is from the core. Thx for the tip Mark. Love your channel!
You know, Mark, yours are the only videos with tips that I have tried that actually work. I’ve watched 10’s of videos about this position and that position, and that is absolutely no good for me. In some of your videos you say “feel like you’re doing this” or “feel like your arms are doing this” and that has transformed my swing over the past few weeks, so I thank you immensely for that 🙏
I suck as a golfer but actually found this out myself. This method works. I don’t actually swing my club all the way back either and it helps tremendously
This is true, got a lesson 2 weeks ago where I was told this. I used to loose 5/6 balls every day from sliced drives, Lost 1 ball in the last 3 rounds and have taken 10-15 shots off my game
I heard Mark talk through this drill on his podcast with Lou and Greg. This has literally helped me drop 8 shots. Taking the wrist hinge and lag ideas out of the equation makes it so much simpler and so much more consistent. I'm flushing the ball so regularly now. It's made golf so much more enjoyable. I only have 2 swing thoughts now - hold on to the angles, and short backswing. Thanks Mark!
@@bestgolfnoobOp is saying holding his wrist angles on the backswing, not the downswing. I assume that’s the feel for him because the wrist will hinge later due to momentum and gravity.
It's such a relief to see this tip - I can go back to the way I used to swing the golf club years ago, quite successfully, with very little wrist hinge.
I'm not the greatest at golf and was playing today and I did exactly what's done in the video and wow it made a huge difference. Could hit some beauty's
For everyone saying he doesn't take his own advice at the end of the video. I think the point is how you perceive your swing is rarely what your swing actually is. Exaggerating the movements in your swing thoughts/practice swings are a very common tool to compensate for common mistakes in your actual swing. So you visualize this wooden swing, you exaggerate it in the practice and then with that muscle memory in your mind you make your swing.
I had this problem as someone who is tall and hypermobile, the turning and all that just added so many mechanics and extra movement that my shoulders could achieve absolutely hoofing straight as a dime haha
The Tommy Fleetwood swing. He calls them “windmill” swings and did this drill to improve strike only to find it was a very playable swing and not just a drill.
Based on my swing and tips I've seen regarding the trail arm wrist, I've realized that keeping the lead wrist flat and letting the trail wrist bend as it needs keep the club face square throughout the swing. 🤔
Awesome advice thanks..It’s not swing the club head or hit the ball with the club head as beginners think it’s move your body to meet the ball, collecting it if you like.
I’ve started doing this and getting more distance and lower ball flight but everyone else is telling me I’m not hinging at all and not holding my angles. What should I do
Having no lag and flipping your wrist isn’t adding yardage, it’s taking LOTS of yardage away. Squaring the face is important yes but flipping your irons is inconsistent and for anyone looking to hopefully become scratch isn’t going to be flipping their wrist they’re compressing the ball.
Sounds like great advice but I’ve just watched your video berating the fact that we poor mortals don’t use our wrists (connected to our hands I believe) enough! I know this was a “short” but how would/should the wrists be used with this swing variant? Regards and thanks for all your guidance.
Something I realized when following Hogan’s Five Lessons book a dozen years ago is that the type of hips/shoulders/hands together low sweeping takeaway action, used with a properly applied Vardon / Interlaced grip causes: 1) as the club starts back the overlapping of trail thumb pad over lead thumb forces the trail wrist into maxed out extension. That maxed out extension then creates a sequence similar how to food server able to lift a heavy tray up or the shoulder. The key for doing that the arm hinging elbow down to create the necessary leverage. 2) The leverage created with the tray lifting action is what allows the golf using this takeaway technique to keep the club force from turning the lead arm and hand (pronating) which allows the force to pull the club inside the hands and bend the lead arm at the elbow swinging the club head even more inside. 3) It is keeping the club head outside the hands, with face of the club looking back at the ball as it sweeps back, which makes the progressively increasing kinetic energy keep the lead arm pulled straight, making the wrist hinge the point of least resistance when arm and club are pulled horizontal with the ground. 4) If the golfer manages does not try to cock the wrists and instead let the force do it, AND GRIP PRESSURE IN THE FINGERS DOES NOT PREVENT IT, the club head will automatically whip up around the hands and accelerate WITH THAT ACCELERATION EXPONENTIALLY INCREASING THE KINETIC ENERGY ACCUMULATED IN THE CLUB HEAD MASS. When done correctly that energy is so great it pulls the shoulders around the stopped hips and club over the heels AND CENTER OF BALANCE automatically. Before discovering this cause and effect I put my trail hand under handed, pronated and bent my lead elbow of my lead arm, brought the club too far inside, cocked my wrist, and had too much of a death grip on the club which prevented it from acceleration up around the hands. I struggled getting a complete shoulder turn resulting it the club being laid off at the top and not ideally balanced or positioned for the downswing. The difference after doing what Hogan suggested was nothing less than amazing. His suggestions for how to hold the club and “waggle” it cured me of gripping the club too tightly in both the backswing and downswing. Most have never actually tried what he suggested and don’t realize he did a “waggle-down” snap of the wrist to accelerate the club head (like cracking the tip of a bull whip past the sound barrier) and lock the wrists and arms together.
Not necessarily... There's tension in that "wooden man arm" of which he speaks. Right handed players-- keep strong tension in your left wrist. No place else on your body should have any tension. All that wide shoulder turn and stuff don't worry about that you just stay long and loose the only tension is in your left wrist (for left-handed players the only tension is in your right wrist. ) Most recreational players TENSE-UP at impact.. don't do that. KEEP THE SAME HINGED WRIST/GRIP PRESSURE &TENSION through your swing and you will start striking it beautifully.
I do this and my father tells me not to swing my arms, instead only using the body and not so much movement with arms. However he sees i hit the ball much better using more arms. Its frustrating i cant hit for shit the way he tells me to.
Love these 1 minute videos. Simpler the better. Thank you!
I committed to doing this on an entire round last weekend. For the first few holes I had some mishits thin, but I stuck with it. After I found the bottom of the swing, the rest of the round was fantastic. Hit the ball clean and straight nearly every time. One thing I did notice was that I had almost zero stress on my lower back. I also gained a few yards in distance. I think it’s because I’m using only big muscles and the swing is from the core. Thx for the tip Mark. Love your channel!
Great tip. The less we worry about the backswing, the more we can focus on delivering a square clubface to the ball on the downswing
Agreed 100%
You know, Mark, yours are the only videos with tips that I have tried that actually work. I’ve watched 10’s of videos about this position and that position, and that is absolutely no good for me. In some of your videos you say “feel like you’re doing this” or “feel like your arms are doing this” and that has transformed my swing over the past few weeks, so I thank you immensely for that 🙏
I suck as a golfer but actually found this out myself. This method works. I don’t actually swing my club all the way back either and it helps tremendously
This is true, got a lesson 2 weeks ago where I was told this.
I used to loose 5/6 balls every day from sliced drives,
Lost 1 ball in the last 3 rounds and have taken 10-15 shots off my game
I heard Mark talk through this drill on his podcast with Lou and Greg. This has literally helped me drop 8 shots. Taking the wrist hinge and lag ideas out of the equation makes it so much simpler and so much more consistent. I'm flushing the ball so regularly now. It's made golf so much more enjoyable. I only have 2 swing thoughts now - hold on to the angles, and short backswing. Thanks Mark!
Lol… but didn’t Mark say NOT to hang on to angles 😂 Im confused 😂
@@bestgolfnoobOp is saying holding his wrist angles on the backswing, not the downswing. I assume that’s the feel for him because the wrist will hinge later due to momentum and gravity.
100% True. Work on this with all my students. Reduces arm over rotation as well.
Thank you!! First time ever golfing (driving range) and I improved my swing tons after watching this video
It's such a relief to see this tip - I can go back to the way I used to swing the golf club years ago, quite successfully, with very little wrist hinge.
I'm not the greatest at golf and was playing today and I did exactly what's done in the video and wow it made a huge difference. Could hit some beauty's
Im very new to golf and thats how i was told to swing. Now im hitting the ball so much better.
For everyone saying he doesn't take his own advice at the end of the video. I think the point is how you perceive your swing is rarely what your swing actually is. Exaggerating the movements in your swing thoughts/practice swings are a very common tool to compensate for common mistakes in your actual swing. So you visualize this wooden swing, you exaggerate it in the practice and then with that muscle memory in your mind you make your swing.
I watched this just now before playing golf this is nice tip
Thanks for the feel. My wrists were really messing up my swing and release - chicken wing, flipping, rising etc. 'Contact from rotation, not wrists.'
I had this problem as someone who is tall and hypermobile, the turning and all that just added so many mechanics and extra movement that my shoulders could achieve absolutely hoofing straight as a dime haha
Best tip ever! works best for driver
Except he cocked his wrist 90 degrees at the top when he actually hit the ball
That's it. He did exactly what he suggested not to do.
Golf is coo 🎉
Looks similar to what you see Steve Stricker do on the golf course. I offered to trade golf swings with him. He laughed!!
Thanks mark
The Tommy Fleetwood swing. He calls them “windmill” swings and did this drill to improve strike only to find it was a very playable swing and not just a drill.
If I swing at 60% I’m a 5hcp, if I swing at 70% I’m a 10hcp, if I swing at 90% I’m a 15hcp. That’s why I swing at 110% every round I play.
You are a funny guy, with gray golf tips. 🙂👍🏼⛳️
thank you again
I follow many of your drills at the range But can yiu suggest ONE swing thought to take on the course ,Instead of overload of thoughts .
Thank you! I was adding “wrist cock” but lost reliable straight shots. Now I know I don’t have to mess with that.
The key for me has been less wrist combined with a shorter backswing.
Based on my swing and tips I've seen regarding the trail arm wrist, I've realized that keeping the lead wrist flat and letting the trail wrist bend as it needs keep the club face square throughout the swing. 🤔
What’s the Serwaa Afrifa-Crocker of this club? Thanks
Farther, not further, as this is about actual distance
That’s my swing now (wooden man) the issue is everything after 7 iron goes the same distance due to club head speed
Do we use wrist for driver shot
Awesome advice thanks..It’s not swing the club head or hit the ball with the club head as beginners think it’s move your body to meet the ball, collecting it if you like.
I’ve started doing this and getting more distance and lower ball flight but everyone else is telling me I’m not hinging at all and not holding my angles. What should I do
No divot?
Biggest takeaway for me is stop trying to control the outcome! Set up - tilt and turn
Having no lag and flipping your wrist isn’t adding yardage, it’s taking LOTS of yardage away. Squaring the face is important yes but flipping your irons is inconsistent and for anyone looking to hopefully become scratch isn’t going to be flipping their wrist they’re compressing the ball.
I used to swing like that as a beginner but once I learned the proper wrist hinge technique, that took my game to a whole new level
I’m doing something wrong just don’t know what and can’t figure it out, my club head speed with PW is 100mph it’s only going 140y
I do that, call it the Bryson swing... important to stay relaxed and not be to rigged or stiff...
Rigid* just for future reference 👌
@@emann715haha
Amen bro
Dude demonstrates big shoulder actions, straight arms. Then when he goes to hit it's completely different and has angles in the elbow...
This is Steve Strickers swing, and, yeah, hes pretty good 🤔
Sounds like great advice but I’ve just watched your video berating the fact that we poor mortals don’t use our wrists (connected to our hands I believe) enough! I know this was a “short” but how would/should the wrists be used with this swing variant? Regards and thanks for all your guidance.
Just saw the same one.
Something I realized when following Hogan’s Five Lessons book a dozen years ago is that the type of hips/shoulders/hands together low sweeping takeaway action, used with a properly applied Vardon / Interlaced grip causes:
1) as the club starts back the overlapping of trail thumb pad over lead thumb forces the trail wrist into maxed out extension. That maxed out extension then creates a sequence similar how to food server able to lift a heavy tray up or the shoulder. The key for doing that the arm hinging elbow down to create the necessary leverage.
2) The leverage created with the tray lifting action is what allows the golf using this takeaway technique to keep the club force from turning the lead arm and hand (pronating) which allows the force to pull the club inside the hands and bend the lead arm at the elbow swinging the club head even more inside.
3) It is keeping the club head outside the hands, with face of the club looking back at the ball as it sweeps back, which makes the progressively increasing kinetic energy keep the lead arm pulled straight, making the wrist hinge the point of least resistance when arm and club are pulled horizontal with the ground.
4) If the golfer manages does not try to cock the wrists and instead let the force do it, AND GRIP PRESSURE IN THE FINGERS DOES NOT PREVENT IT, the club head will automatically whip up around the hands and accelerate WITH THAT ACCELERATION EXPONENTIALLY INCREASING THE KINETIC ENERGY ACCUMULATED IN THE CLUB HEAD MASS. When done correctly that energy is so great it pulls the shoulders around the stopped hips and club over the heels AND CENTER OF BALANCE automatically.
Before discovering this cause and effect I put my trail hand under handed, pronated and bent my lead elbow of my lead arm, brought the club too far inside, cocked my wrist, and had too much of a death grip on the club which prevented it from acceleration up around the hands. I struggled getting a complete shoulder turn resulting it the club being laid off at the top and not ideally balanced or positioned for the downswing.
The difference after doing what Hogan suggested was nothing less than amazing. His suggestions for how to hold the club and “waggle” it cured me of gripping the club too tightly in both the backswing and downswing. Most have never actually tried what he suggested and don’t realize he did a “waggle-down” snap of the wrist to accelerate the club head (like cracking the tip of a bull whip past the sound barrier) and lock the wrists and arms together.
Blimey, who’s gonna read all that! Just go out and swing the club for heavens sake, like Mark keeps saying people way overthink the golf swing… 😅
I too hit ball with stick
Been eatin bananas wrong my whole life...
Literally just watched a short talking about the wrist. As a beginner idk whose advice to follow.
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Forget golf. PGA's "partnership" with LIV is a kiss of death.
This will only take your game so far. Eventually you need to cock your wrists and ‘feel’ the club head
Your practice swings didn’t involve the wrist however when you actually hit the ball they came into play. Do as I say, not as I do perhaps? 🤔
Thank you!!!
But he didn't even follow his advice at the end? He tilted his elbow and wrists really hard
Lol I don't want my shots lower
Lost 3mph and about 5 yards
Steve Stricker
I thought he said gophers
It sounds like it with his accent lol
Not necessarily... There's tension in that "wooden man arm" of which he speaks. Right handed players-- keep strong tension in your left wrist. No place else on your body should have any tension. All that wide shoulder turn and stuff don't worry about that you just stay long and loose the only tension is in your left wrist (for left-handed players the only tension is in your right wrist. ) Most recreational players TENSE-UP at impact.. don't do that. KEEP THE SAME HINGED WRIST/GRIP PRESSURE &TENSION through your swing and you will start striking it beautifully.
If you wanna keep the ball on the ground do this lol
This makes sense 😂
Works the opposite for me
Doesnt feel natural though ? Throwing a stone or swinging any other items we break the wrists ? This seems to robotic
It's farther not further
I do this and my father tells me not to swing my arms, instead only using the body and not so much movement with arms. However he sees i hit the ball much better using more arms. Its frustrating i cant hit for shit the way he tells me to.