Mooie test. Op de bijboten bij de huur in de BVI zitten Mercury motoren. Iedereen sleept die rubberboten maar mee achter de z3ilboot. Ploft alles op het strand. En de motoren doen het altijd. Joke van de verhuurders : als jullie terugkomen dan wel één bijboot afleveren, en liefst dezelfde. Marcel
Ah - had sent you guys a message to understand your perspectives for the AST, so this video is super timely. I am entering zone to buy my tender so looking at OCT and AST as options, along with inflatables. My one concern on these non-inflatables is how tippy they are - the OCT seems very tippy but AST seems more stable. I guess my other concern is that these are so nice - theft in certain areas is a much higher likelihood.
This one is not tippy at all (and I tried harder than Marijke appreciated). And you’re for the coming year a brave thief if you steal an AST with a jockey seat as it might be very obvious that you stole it .....
Looks like a very well designed and stable tender. It should compliment the aesthetics of the Outremer quite nicely. 20hp outboard will not be over powered from my experience using motorised tenders.
Congratulations. It looks like a great option, I've always been surprised we don't see more jockey seats on cruising tenders. Have you thought through your boarding ladder options to get in the boat from the water? Please post when you sort out that or other details. Also curious why not Yamaha or Suzuki (EFI) which seem to very popular.
On the back end of the Coast there are steps on the waterline to come back on board, so only the one without jockey seat has a boarding ladder. I didn’t look at other engines, we were used to Honda but this Mercury was lighter and it worked fine
I always think there is good weight and bad weight, bad weight is from poor design, good weight is smart design or an acceptable compromise. Incidentally did you consider an electric tender? or was the weight too much? Thanks for the vid. Cheers.
The boatshed was selling torqueedos as well, still twice the price and comparable weight including the extra batteries when you choose the equal power version to a 20hp
@@CatGreatcircle Interesting, I thought they would've been heavier, potentially significantly so... The price tho is a sticking point no doubt though. Cheers.
Except OC offers no console, no wheel and no jockey seats for any of their tenders. Theyre all rear seat, tiller controlled. So its not a copy, but just another option to consider depending on your needs. Because OC doesnt have any of that, it has more available floor space of course. I think AST is better for adventures in unfamiliar waters, since you can mount a side plotter on the console column
Hello you two, Thanks for your informative test. This tender seems to be a good alternative to aluminum ribs in terms of weight. Carbon makes it possible. But 11.900,00€ (without console), are a lot of nuggets only for firewater, says Chief Drunken Manatee. ;-) Ok, everyone has to decide for themselves.
Including console and vat, the Coast is only with console. The difference with the Highfield incl engine was not that big %-wise. Weight savings on other parts of the new boat are (way) more expensive 😇
Nice video! Pleasantly surprised it still works well with 4+ people despite the center seat. I mean....with the center seat you're still just under the total weight of a more traditional inflatable dinghy without center console, right?
30 kg extra for a console seems a lot... Why not have a tiller extension and just stand in the dinghy? That's what we do and it's perfect to keep you dry. If you stand in a good position and hold on to a line from the bow, it's not unstable. And it saves a lot of weight + space. We do it with our OCTender (whichwe love).
We like the jockey seat a lot and the extra weight is not an issue for the 55. We tried the OC as well but found it already very unstable sitting down. The AST itself is already a lot more stable than the OC and having the weight in the middle makes it very comfortable to drive
@@CatGreatcircle unstable? We can sit with two grown-ups on one side and it won't flip at all. It feels super stable to me :D I always enter by stepping on the side, so it's really not unstable. Maybe different feel but really easy to get used to :) But everyone should do what they feel good about of course. I personally would never want to have the weight, space (and money) it costs, I rather just stand up and have all the benefits of being in that position and not the downside. But I'm happy you're happy :) just giving my experience so other people can make their own decision :)
There are several OC and AST tenders in our GLYWO fleet so we did have the chance to compare them really well. Did you have the chance to try the AST with and without jockey seat yet?
@@CatGreatcircle No, haven't had the chance to compare them, only drove the OCTender (btw the longer version, 3.5m). I drove the shorter version very shortly, didn't like that one very much. I love the driving capabilities of the 3.5 OCT. We've got a 25hp outboard on it, which isn't necessary, we don't often use full throttle but it's nice to have it when needed and nice to go super fast when water is flat. Deeper V would sometimes be better but I do appreciate it that the tender has so little draught, has a nice interior shape and is so lightweight.. Always compromises
The electric torqueedo corresponding with 20 hp is even a bit heavier including the batteries and more than double the price. Maybe on next tender in a couple of years, same might be true for the cat itself.
It’s a really nice dinghy, we really like the jockey seat. We had one of the first and I think in the meantime they’ve improved (and had to improve) the vulnerability and the quality of some materials and finishing used.
Wij kennen de OC tender niet goed genoeg om daar al te veel over te zeggen, hebben er maar een klein stukje mee gevaren bij St. Tropez. OC Tender heeft geen versie met console dus voor de variant waar wij naar op zoek waren (ASTender Coast) gaat de vergelijking sowieso niet (volledig) op. Op het eerste gezicht lijkt de AST Beach 340 iets stabieler dan de OC 350, met een diepere V in de boeg en een vlakkere achterkant maar wellicht kan iemand die met beiden meer ervaring heeft daar iets over roepen.
Hoi hoi, Als het gewicht niets uitmaakt tussen de 15pk en de 20pk, zou ik toch voor ietsje meer power kiezen. Je bent niet alleen iets sneller weg, maar je bent in "Emergency" ook iets sneller aan land. Voldoende ruimte voor provisie, dus wat wil je nog meer ! Voor de rest een prachtige tender, uitstekende keuze Marijke. By the way... We horen je uitstekend ! Oh ja, nog 2 maanden... ;-)
@@CatGreatcircle 20 pk is makkelijk te tillen. Die elektrische lift, daar zou ik ook niet voor kiezen. Maar jullie hebben een pracht van een "Speledingetje" gekozen ! Whahahahaha
@@CatGreatcircle Ja, zoiets moet je ook niet overhaast aanschaffen, je moet het kunnen zien, voelen, en ruiken. het is nu eenmaal een investering, maar het moet wel de juiste investering zijn. Have fun with the 'Speledingetje" !
We hope to get it around the multihull boat show in LGM just after the planned launch of Greatcircle so we can find out for ourselves as well. As we are always anchoring and a suitable anchoring spot might be a bit away from where we want to go this is important for us too
Pretty happy with how comfortable she still is in rougher water. Of course it’s not a Highfield 390 like we had on the Lagoon, but with 2 persons on the jockey seat it feels good and you stay dry.
I wouldn’t know, do you mean from the dock or the cat or from the water? I (100kg) can stand on the edge with the bike without tipping the tender. From the water there are steps on the back but we don’t dive so can’t tell you whether it’s different compared to a heavier inflatable one.
Machtig mooi bootje! Maar het lijkt erop dat je innig geloefde echtgenote je een ietsiepietsie te impulsief vindt achter het stuur, Mark! 😂😂 Groetz, Wim
We’ll have to find out but the OC tender does a decent job then and this one seems more stable and has a better bow shape. At least we’ll be safer on the jockey seat than on the edge
Good morning everyone. Always here in Brazil accompanying you ... Always showing these wonderful places .. very good videos ... Health to all ..
Congrats! Nice pick.
Mooie test. Op de bijboten bij de huur in de BVI zitten Mercury motoren. Iedereen sleept die rubberboten maar mee achter de z3ilboot. Ploft alles op het strand. En de motoren doen het altijd.
Joke van de verhuurders : als jullie terugkomen dan wel één bijboot afleveren, en liefst dezelfde.
Marcel
Hebben ze op de BVI het hek om hun eiland al weggehaald 🤣?
Seems like a really nice dinghy. Love to know more.✨ ✌️ ✨ 🌞 ✨
Astyachts Potsdam
little by little the puzzle is getting shape
Ah - had sent you guys a message to understand your perspectives for the AST, so this video is super timely. I am entering zone to buy my tender so looking at OCT and AST as options, along with inflatables. My one concern on these non-inflatables is how tippy they are - the OCT seems very tippy but AST seems more stable. I guess my other concern is that these are so nice - theft in certain areas is a much higher likelihood.
This one is not tippy at all (and I tried harder than Marijke appreciated). And you’re for the coming year a brave thief if you steal an AST with a jockey seat as it might be very obvious that you stole it .....
@@CatGreatcircle one of those steering wheel lock bars maybe? That will make it even more obvious 🤞
Looks like a very well designed and stable tender. It should compliment the aesthetics of the Outremer quite nicely.
20hp outboard will not be over powered from my experience using motorised tenders.
Great video as always. Question: What is the pretty guitar song/artist in the background? I love it; Shazam can't find it. Thanks!
It’s Declan Zapala, wonderful artist
It is like a sea-do SUV. Good choice 👍
Congratulations. It looks like a great option, I've always been surprised we don't see more jockey seats on cruising tenders. Have you thought through your boarding ladder options to get in the boat from the water? Please post when you sort out that or other details.
Also curious why not Yamaha or Suzuki (EFI) which seem to very popular.
On the back end of the Coast there are steps on the waterline to come back on board, so only the one without jockey seat has a boarding ladder.
I didn’t look at other engines, we were used to Honda but this Mercury was lighter and it worked fine
I always think there is good weight and bad weight, bad weight is from poor design, good weight is smart design or an acceptable compromise. Incidentally did you consider an electric tender? or was the weight too much? Thanks for the vid. Cheers.
The boatshed was selling torqueedos as well, still twice the price and comparable weight including the extra batteries when you choose the equal power version to a 20hp
@@CatGreatcircle Interesting, I thought they would've been heavier, potentially significantly so... The price tho is a sticking point no doubt though. Cheers.
Looks like an OC Tender copy, very noice 👍
Except OC offers no console, no wheel and no jockey seats for any of their tenders. Theyre all rear seat, tiller controlled. So its not a copy, but just another option to consider depending on your needs. Because OC doesnt have any of that, it has more available floor space of course. I think AST is better for adventures in unfamiliar waters, since you can mount a side plotter on the console column
Hello you two,
Thanks for your informative test. This tender seems to be a good alternative to aluminum ribs in terms of weight. Carbon makes it possible. But 11.900,00€ (without console), are a lot of nuggets only for firewater, says Chief Drunken Manatee. ;-)
Ok, everyone has to decide for themselves.
Including console and vat, the Coast is only with console. The difference with the Highfield incl engine was not that big %-wise. Weight savings on other parts of the new boat are (way) more expensive 😇
@@CatGreatcircle Ah, the Coast is with console. Sorry, that is of course a completely different number. Mea culpa...
No worries I had to check as well that I didn’t get an unpleasant surprise 🤣
@@CatGreatcircle Better is! Now it's time to... een lekkere grog! ;)
Stay healthy!
Nice video! Pleasantly surprised it still works well with 4+ people despite the center seat.
I mean....with the center seat you're still just under the total weight of a more traditional inflatable dinghy without center console, right?
Saving 60 kg on the Highfield CL380 with the small side console and the little bench all the way aft ....
That weight saving per kg is a lot more efficient (read cheaper) than buying a carbon mast, especially with that arm to the COG
30 kg extra for a console seems a lot... Why not have a tiller extension and just stand in the dinghy? That's what we do and it's perfect to keep you dry. If you stand in a good position and hold on to a line from the bow, it's not unstable. And it saves a lot of weight + space. We do it with our OCTender (whichwe love).
We like the jockey seat a lot and the extra weight is not an issue for the 55. We tried the OC as well but found it already very unstable sitting down. The AST itself is already a lot more stable than the OC and having the weight in the middle makes it very comfortable to drive
@@CatGreatcircle unstable? We can sit with two grown-ups on one side and it won't flip at all. It feels super stable to me :D I always enter by stepping on the side, so it's really not unstable. Maybe different feel but really easy to get used to :) But everyone should do what they feel good about of course. I personally would never want to have the weight, space (and money) it costs, I rather just stand up and have all the benefits of being in that position and not the downside. But I'm happy you're happy :) just giving my experience so other people can make their own decision :)
There are several OC and AST tenders in our GLYWO fleet so we did have the chance to compare them really well. Did you have the chance to try the AST with and without jockey seat yet?
@@CatGreatcircle No, haven't had the chance to compare them, only drove the OCTender (btw the longer version, 3.5m). I drove the shorter version very shortly, didn't like that one very much.
I love the driving capabilities of the 3.5 OCT. We've got a 25hp outboard on it, which isn't necessary, we don't often use full throttle but it's nice to have it when needed and nice to go super fast when water is flat. Deeper V would sometimes be better but I do appreciate it that the tender has so little draught, has a nice interior shape and is so lightweight.. Always compromises
Love the tender! what about using one of those electric engines, shouldn't it save more weight? are they reliable?
The electric torqueedo corresponding with 20 hp is even a bit heavier including the batteries and more than double the price. Maybe on next tender in a couple of years, same might be true for the cat itself.
1,5 years later... still happy with your AST?
It’s a really nice dinghy, we really like the jockey seat. We had one of the first and I think in the meantime they’ve improved (and had to improve) the vulnerability and the quality of some materials and finishing used.
I like it!!!!!
wat zijn de belangrijkste verschillen tussen de OC en AC tender?
Wij kennen de OC tender niet goed genoeg om daar al te veel over te zeggen, hebben er maar een klein stukje mee gevaren bij St. Tropez. OC Tender heeft geen versie met console dus voor de variant waar wij naar op zoek waren (ASTender Coast) gaat de vergelijking sowieso niet (volledig) op. Op het eerste gezicht lijkt de AST Beach 340 iets stabieler dan de OC 350, met een diepere V in de boeg en een vlakkere achterkant maar wellicht kan iemand die met beiden meer ervaring heeft daar iets over roepen.
Voor Europeanen lijkt levering uit Duitsland in praktijk een stuk handiger dan vanuit Nieuw Zeeland indien de tenders gelijkwaardig zouden zijn
Hoi hoi,
Als het gewicht niets uitmaakt tussen de 15pk en de 20pk, zou ik toch voor ietsje meer power kiezen.
Je bent niet alleen iets sneller weg, maar je bent in "Emergency" ook iets sneller aan land.
Voldoende ruimte voor provisie, dus wat wil je nog meer !
Voor de rest een prachtige tender, uitstekende keuze Marijke.
By the way... We horen je uitstekend !
Oh ja, nog 2 maanden... ;-)
Ja hebben we ook gedaan 20hp zoals ie ook op de testboot zat maar dan zonder electrische tilt
@@CatGreatcircle 20 pk is makkelijk te tillen.
Die elektrische lift, daar zou ik ook niet voor kiezen.
Maar jullie hebben een pracht van een "Speledingetje" gekozen !
Whahahahaha
@@marcobottenheft913 Ja we dachten eerst dat hij wat aan de kleine kant was maar nu we hem in het echt zagen en konden proberen was het zo beslist
@@CatGreatcircle Ja, zoiets moet je ook niet overhaast aanschaffen, je moet het kunnen zien, voelen, en ruiken.
het is nu eenmaal een investering, maar het moet wel de juiste investering zijn.
Have fun with the 'Speledingetje" !
Interesting 🤔 I wonder how it performs with some seas....
We hope to get it around the multihull boat show in LGM just after the planned launch of Greatcircle so we can find out for ourselves as well. As we are always anchoring and a suitable anchoring spot might be a bit away from where we want to go this is important for us too
@@CatGreatcircle Can you now update us on your review, especially re rougher water/heavier sea state??
Pretty happy with how comfortable she still is in rougher water. Of course it’s not a Highfield 390 like we had on the Lagoon, but with 2 persons on the jockey seat it feels good and you stay dry.
@@CatGreatcircle Much thx. So would you buy the same thing again now, after 2 years?
Yes with the current improvements I would
get on and off with diving equipment .
goes well ?
I wouldn’t know, do you mean from the dock or the cat or from the water? I (100kg) can stand on the edge with the bike without tipping the tender. From the water there are steps on the back but we don’t dive so can’t tell you whether it’s different compared to a heavier inflatable one.
Machtig mooi bootje! Maar het lijkt erop dat je innig geloefde echtgenote je een ietsiepietsie te impulsief vindt achter het stuur, Mark! 😂😂
Groetz,
Wim
Die zag me al in het koude water liggen maar dat bootje geeft geen krimp
@@CatGreatcircle 😂 Nee, hij bleef zelfs perfect recht liggen toen die vriend van jullie helemaal over de rand ging hangen. Lekkerrrr.
How does it handle rougher seas?
We’ll have to find out but the OC tender does a decent job then and this one seems more stable and has a better bow shape. At least we’ll be safer on the jockey seat than on the edge
@@CatGreatcircle Cool.
I wonder if you could fit the exterior cushion like the one on Delos' rib, to lessen the chance of grinding
I wonder how it would do with an electric motor? Probably way underpowered with current possibilities.
By the way great job with the video, especially the drone shots. They should give you a discount just for the great publicity!
Yes they should 🤣. But even without that they were a great help during our dinghy selection and we like making the videos anyway.
No underpowered wouldn’t be the issue, there’s a nice torqueedo corresponding with the 20 hp, see also other comments
Get the 20 hp!
Yep!
If it doesn't spin out on you its not overpowered.
is that a copy of russell in Bay of Island New Zealand?
AST is from Germany, they are also known from the Foiling Dinghy
lol, goed bootje hoor.
😂 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
18.000euros.
Too expensive
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