*PHENOMENAL* cinematic journey | Joker 2019 | First Time Watching Reaction
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ต.ค. 2024
- Lipps begins her journey through the world of batman movies with the first Joker movie.
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I am so glad they didn't make a sequal to this absolute masterpiece. Smart move by the execs to just make this a solo film. Yep 😌
@@tonyantonellis9983no…they didnt
@@qsings8674 joker folia a deux is the sequel title.
@@tonyantonellis9983 After watching it, I’m retconning it from my memory
@@tonyantonellis9983 it is some low level fanfic) not the sequel
yeah, thank god
Until I saw this year's sequel to Joker 2019, I used to follow Joker 2019 with The Batman 2022 and make believe that they are connected.
This film is such an unique introduction to the world of Gotham for someone who hasn't watched any Batman media prior to this. I Personally wouldn’t recommend viewing Joker (2019) as a canonical take on the characters, as it feels very much like its own thing. The film presents a more 'grounded' reality, both in its depiction of Gotham and in characters like Arthur Fleck, who is an original creation for the movie. While it’s a compelling film about a man struggling with mental health, with a Gotham twist, it doesn’t really serve as a true 'Joker' film. At least, not until the end. Arthur Fleck essentially represents a narrative that the Joker from the comics might create as a fake origin story for himself.
In the film, Thomas Wayne is portrayed in a fairly tasteless way, coming across as an outright jerk compared to his comic counterpart. In the comics, and in most renditions, Thomas is compassionate, with a strong moral compass. He’s often depicted as a respected doctor and philanthropist, a figure of integrity.
The film also flips a major dynamic from the comics. Traditionally, the Joker is born from Batman’s actions, emerging during Bruce’s first years as the Dark Knight. However, in the film, it’s the opposite. The actions of the Joker indirectly lead to the death of the Waynes, setting the stage for the eventual rise of Batman about 15 years later. Assuming this Bruce becomes Batman around age 25, as in the comics, the film changes this iconic origin in a significant way. Overall, this film takes a very different approach to the character and shouldn't be used as a reliable reference for future Batman-related projects.
Hopefully, you enjoy the Nolan Trilogy. Like Joker, it's also a very 'grounded' take on the world of Batman, meaning there are no supernatural elements, metahumans, or anything beyond our own reality. Batman Begins (2005) is my personal favourite because it feels the most like a comic-book Batman film. Gotham looks great, and the overall aesthetic is my favourite in the trilogy. However, after Begins, Gotham starts to feel more like a typical American city, losing a lot of its personality. Additionally, certain characters are stripped of their more comic-book origins to fit into this grounded world. Ra's Al Ghul and Bane being two examples.
The Batman (2022) did an amazing job at being grounded but maintaining a great Gothic Gotham City that's up there with Batman '89 and Batman Returns for the best live action Gotham City. I could also see Matt Reeve introducing more fantastical elements as well, villains such as Clayface to contrast the grounded stories told so far and take both Batman and Gotham by surprise. Batman '89 along with Returns are the most fantastical Batman films, Very cool art direction and my personal favourite Gotham put to screen. I feel like James Gunn's up in coming DC Universe is going to fully embrace the fantastical elements of the comics as well.
But I hope you have a blast with your Batman adventures.
@@LittleGalaxyBoy I forgave Thomas Wayne in this movie. 100%.
If some creep puked that crap with my little son, they’d quickly find me a jerk, too. Would have been nice if they showed more of him, so we could see him normally. But the focus had to stay on Fleck.
@@robbob5302 I totally respect that part, but everything else like him calling the people of Gotham clowns and his overall attitude throughout the film-makes him come off as not a great person. That said, we also have to remember we’re seeing the story through Arthur’s perspective. Maybe that's simply how Arthur see's Thomas Wayne.
@@LittleGalaxyBoy I see what you’ve saying. I could get political here, and say we are seeing him through the media’s perspective as well. But that feels apologist-ic.
This movie is a fantastic, non-canonical origin story for the Joker. Many books, comics, movies, games, and shows have tackled the Joker's origin (all of them slightly different). The most commonly held view is that no one knows what his true origin is (not even the Joker himself). Sometimes he makes up stories about how he got to where he is, but even he isn't sure it's the truth (sometimes he even knows it's a lie). I love that they keep him mysterious and, to me, this movie is just another story told by an unreliable narrator.
This is an ALTERNATE Batman universe. Keep that in mind. Probably not the best to start with. It's an interesting re-write of Joker's origin but it is NOT Joker's origin.
I didn’t find it to be a bad start! The Batman was a harder transition after watching the trilogy than joker to Batman begins was!
i mean, she didn't even know the name Bruce Wayne so
I knew the name Bruce Wayne. I simply wasn't invested in the story/world as it pertains to Batman. I was invested in watching this movie because of the cinematography and because I knew it was an interesting look at mental health.
What I enjoyed the most about this movie was DeNiro getting his 🧠 splattered on the wall 😂
That knock knock joke is actually pretty funny
It’s mind blowing tbh
Not sure this is the best film to start your journey into the Batman universe, but as long as you don't expect too much of a through-line from this to the other films, it shouldn't be too confusing. That said, this is - to use your word - a phenomenal standalone film in its own right.
yeah, i didn't explain that well enough cause this is like half the comments. But this was a movie I've had on my list to watch from before I even started doing reactions! I thought it'd be fun to do a month of batman world but even if I didn't go down the route of watching the batman trilogy and The Batman I was always going to watch Joker!! I was very interested in it as the film that it is not because I expected it to be a direct link to the batman trilogy.
That joke was so good it blew his mind
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0:56 Don’t get your hopes up about seeing Batman and Robin together anytime soon! :(
Modern Batman projects have really shied away from including Robin alongside Batman. The last time we saw Robin in a Batman film was Batman & Robin back in 1997 over 26 years ago! though he does play a significant role in animation, like Batman: The Animated Series and in films like Batman: Under the Red Hood, it’s a real shame that a whole generation hasn’t been introduced to Robin if they've only watched the live-action movies. And honestly, I don’t count John "Robin" Blake from The Dark Knight Rises as a true representation of Robin. It felt more like a "Hey, look, we mentioned Robin!" moment instead of actually giving us the character. Just having your legal name be Robin doesn’t really count.
It was fun to get that lil robin reveal in dark knight rises but it would have been more fun to get a true duo! Maybe the future holds something good for us who knows!
@@LippsReacts From what I’ve heard, James Gunn’s DCU (DC Universe) will have a Batman who’s already in his prime, active for a good number of years and already has the Bat Family formed. Since Superman: Legacy (2025) is kicking off the new DCU, it probably means we won’t see this new Batman, along with Robin, until later in the decade. But it would be cool if The Batman 2 (whenever it comes out) introduces a Robin, especially since it would be a great contrast to Robert Pattinson’s moody take on the character. Pattinson’s Batman will still continue on as its' own Elseworlds universe so that's not going anywhere soon.
oooo yes I would love a contrast to Pattinsons Batman. I enjoyed him but I LOVED Bales Batman. SO excited to share these with y'all so we can discuss the batmans and all that the movies have. It's been one of my favorite movie series I've watched this year
Murray isnt the brightest one)
- I killed them because they were awful.
- YOU are awfull Murrey.
And Murray kept pushing)
He really felt safe to keep prodding, huh?
@@LippsReacts even when the boss music started))
40:18 Finally! Lol. Love ya Lipps 🙂
🤣🤣🤣 I was so invested in the joker I didn’t even really care we were in Batman’s world
This the last movie i saw on the movie theater before the pandemic.
Now we know what was this Joke in the end of the movie) It was Joker: Folie à Deux
Wouldn't waste your time with the 2nd one.
2nd one is good too
No it's not. It literally tears aurther down. Wasted lady gaga and it's ultimately ruined by excessive musicals numbers that are either to in the nose or out of touch with the scene @rapid9534
@@ThomasAnomolus you missed the whole point of the movie, you never cared about Arthur or his mental illness, you only cared about joker
@rapid9534 but then again. The first movie led up to the birth of Joker, which was the whole point. Why just destroy that in the sequel and go back to arthur?
Watch The Room instead
Films like The Batman and Joker make me appreciate DC more than Marvel.
The Batman trilogy really sucked me in as a DC girlie
@@LippsReacts Batman: The Animated Series got me into DC that show is a masterpiece. Kevin Conroy will always be leagues above any of the live action versions.
I remember watching this movie for my 1st out of 3 times in the cinema, when a family of mom, dad, older sister and younger brother sat on the row in front of me. In the first scene, where Arthur laughs out of pain and despair, the young boy (around 10 years old) whispered to his mom "I don´t think, that I wanna watch this movie". The family sat still for another 5-10 minutes and then left with a sad boy.
This movie is not a superhero/supervillain movie. It´s a social study of men at the very rock bottom of society, who suffers in silence and experiences nothing but alienation from the world around them. I am so happy, that Hollywood had the courage to make this movie, because I think, it´s the most relevant and important movie of the last 20 years for the forgotten but suffering men of our Western World.
I love this film so much that I almost don’t want to see the 2nd.
I feel that. I’m so disheartened by the reviews for the second one 😩
The people who like the first hate the second and the people who didn't like the first love the second. That should tell you enough.
I'd advice against it, I wish I could unsee it since I can never watch this movie again without thinking about that steaming pile of garbage.
@@LippsReactsso many ppl walked out of my theater. Save yourself from the insult of watching the sequel
cant wait for you to do the Dark Knight trilogy!
I’m so excited to share!! I had a great time with batman
Watching Heat (1995) would also be a cool idea before watching Dark Knight, Christopher Nolan took a lot of inspiration from it, and of course it's an awesome movie to react to by itself. This movie really set the tone for all modern action movies going forwards.
I've already watched athe batman trilogy and The Batman. I do a full length movie reaction a week for patreon and can't edit a movie reaction a week for youtube so i'm always ahead. I post what i'm going to react to for the month in the community section for feedback and insight like this.
Great reaction! You should consider reacting to a TV series called Banshee. It’s an underrated TV show!
I’ll add it to my list!! Thank you for watching!
The best way to get into the DC universe is either Batman the animated series from the 90s or DC animated movies universe.
I'd bet the animated series from the 90s is the batman content I watched as a kid. I don't remember it vividly by any means but I do remember it being a part of my childhood
This was a different n uniquely dark portrayal of the Joker. Heath Ledger's Joker had been a bit dark but that was nothing compared to this one. It works as a separate movie, not as a part of Batman movie because Bruce was a kid n the Joker was grown up already. Christopher Nolan's trilogy of Batman is iconic.
The sequel to this movie is completely different. It's more of a musical than anything else so there's not much of a continuation on the plot other than Joker meeting HQ.
Your reaction to this movie was pretty interesting btw
If you like this check out Scorsese's Taxi Driver and King of Comedy both of which this is heavily derived from.
Oooo ok I’ll add them to my list!!
Cool sweater!
Thank you!!
What are living things other than broken reflections of the past rearranging itself?
Have you seen Taxi Driver? Would be a cool idea to do a reaction video on that and compare. The story is even closer to the movie 'The King of Comedy' but stylistically Taxi Driver is the closest.
Also his standup comedy was taken from the Dutch comedian Hans Teeuwen, 'Hans' First Appearance in the UK (part1)' also fun for a response.
I really liked this movie for its very unique way Joaquin Phoenix displayed the character.
I heard the second one is a disaster, although I didn't see it yet for myself.
Keep always in mind to build your own picture before judging and before getting adulterated by others opinions.
Just expect nothing and you won't get disappointed.
Agreed. I will deff still watch the second movie and am curious to see it for myself.
@@LippsReactsdon't do it. Save yourself!!
I tried very hard to like the sequel.
Some parts were okay I guess.
I’m still gonna see it but am a bit saddened to see it bombing
This movie like the second promptly goes into the 🗑️.
sequal was amzing, all incels hated it thats for sure
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@@LippsReactsare you going to do a reaction video when it hits streaming?
This movie was bootleg rip off
I still havnt seen this movie.
I really enjoyed it!!