so im looking into the build that you got here and i decided to check out the mpower site. if i get all the parts for a dws (i have the ma020 impreza wrc) will it all work with the car i have and where do i get the rear shocks?
Hey BMR, really nice video, I was wondering where you got your rear shocks, I am trying to make a similar build and wondering what the rear shocks are. Thanks!
Hey man, the shocks come with the Kyosho DWS rear end kit. You need the DWS rear end to slap these Mpower parts on. Hope this helps, let me know if you have further questions & good luck with your build!
Hello BMR, awesome video, what type of swing shaft are you using, the Mpower looks amazing and very expensive, my cousin sold me his ma 020ve pro with eagle racing metal upgrades, I can see my metal rear swing arm too small for the eagle racing, using the stock longer swing shalf is too long, it look like the eagle racing rear lower arm either to longer (short), i ask about the stock parts but it look like he can’t find it anymore, I think it not going anywhere, do you think I should go to a different project and put this aside?
I notice if i replace the bearing with a wider width, it might solved the problem, do you recommend bearing size and width? I never run this( radio not included), still waiting for my flysky nb4 with optional receiver. Thanks in advance.
Can you recommend a brushless motor and also how to eliminate (if possible) the play in the front steering? The car never tracks straight due to this play, out of the box. Thanks
I’m using the 4100kv Xspeed on my ma-030Evo & it’s great for drifting. As far as the front tires being wobbly, you can shim the front steering knuckles to help eliminate some of the slop in the swing arms & tires. Aside from that you can adjust the steering trim with the controller, but mini-z AWD always have a bit of slop in the front steering
Subscribed. Hi, Do you know if the MA020 rear end is cross compatible with the MA030 (non-DWS)? I was thinking of running PN aluminum Knuckles rear but I dont see the MA030 available, only the MA020. Also, what about the rear toe bar, are they also x-compatible? Do you also know if the front end of the MA020 has the same width as the Narrow configuration of the MA030? Thank you!
Hey man, thanks for the sub. Yes the stock ma-010 ma-020 & ma-030 all use the same exact rear end & the parts are universally comparable. The DWS is also universally compatible across all three platforms. Just be careful since the stock king pin style rear end parts are not compatible with the DWS & vise virsa. As for the front ends, yes they will have the same track width for the 020 & 030. Hope this helps, let me know if you need further clarification & good luck with your build!
Nice video i am going to build my mini z with M power. But i got 1 question , where did you find the black rear springs for the DWS? i cannot find them in the list of M power products
@@BMR3 oh my god are you sure ? I thought I can go straight to Mpower without wasting extra money.🙁 Can you tell me the number of the KYISHO DWS KIT ? Is the MDW100 ?
@@ChristosPanT yep it’s mdw100 & sadly you need it as the base to add the upgrades onto. I haven’t seen any companies make a full DWS replacement, only upgrade parts.
Hi BMR, can I transfer all electronic including the servo from the Evo-03 to this chassis.? Please let me know and Thankyou.! We love your videos.! So informative .!
Hey Piinky, No I don't think you can since the MA-030Evo uses a completely new style of receiver (the type that lets you change the chip) & the servo has a slightly different style from my understanding due to the motor being mounted in the front. If you want a MA-020EVO you can buy a brushless board & motor, then do a conversion but it will still be different from the 030 since they have a different style of receiver board. Hope this helps & thank you for the support!
@@BMR3 yes.! That’s very helpful. ThAnkyou for saving me money and time.!! I know what to buy now!! Thankyou for helping me in this adventure.!!! ❤️❤️🙏
Great to hear that you get your money’s worth in quality machining/design! No upgrade drive? Any difference in performance? Thank you for this content.....you helped make up my mind. I was going to add a mini-z to my collection. Instead I’m going to get another full boat 1/10 yd2sx. I can easily see spending $800 on mini-z/spares/upgrades.....and performance/repeatability seems questionable.
Dude skip the mini-z, I’m starting to realize they are the kiddie version of micro RC & can’t compare to something like the yd2sx. You seem to be pretty advanced with RC, have you looked into Atomic DRZ? It’s a RWD drifter that’s uses “normal RC” style electronics & you can upgrade the steering system to a bell crank that mimics the yd2s steering system. I have a DRZ in the mail with the Super Skeeter (yes I realize how ridiculous the name is 😹) & I will be making videos all about it. Stay tuned to the channel, I feel the DRZ is more your style.
Channel content and edit is clean and concise! I've been RC for 40+ years?!?!....Most lately fixed wing and Freestyle/racing kwads. I've started a business teaching a STEM program incorporating Flitetest's online STEM curriculum. Some of my students are interested in starting with R/C cars/trucks, so investigating the different options...work..work..work😁 I've have a couple 1/10 4wd countersteer MST 01D that are great for asphalt and a YD2sx2 RWD for concrete(local track only allows RWD)......for years, but I didn't get really proficient until Quarantine closed all our flying fields. Mini-z looked promising for indoor/small space use, and perhaps for touring racing?....and the available bodies are as cool as it gets.....but ultimately, I feel that if I spent hours practicing with the mini-z......I'd just be frustrated. 1/10 scale tuning, whether it be touring, off-road, drift, crawling is very satisfying and repeatable....just like full-size.
Will the front aluminium diff cover fit the ma030? On the m power site its only listed as compatible with the 020 and does not show as compatible with the 030? Thanks
Hi BMR I really like your content, very helpful, I would like to get into this mini z drifting but I cant seem to find one for sale, any tips on where to get one? I'm from California
Hey BMR 3, I have the swing arms as well and I cannot get them to fit as the mount seems to be too short. may I know how did you managed to install it? Thanks in advance!
There are two versions of swings arms depending if your using a narrow or wide front. It sounds like you purchased the narrow arms but you needed the wider version.
@@BMR3 sorry I meant the rear swing arm. The original ones have ball joints to slot into the toe bar and on the rear mount. The mpower ones are just too short.
Hi, may I know where to purchase MPower parts? The front translucent plastic screws used instead of metal screws are to prevent plastic parts contact with metal parts abrasion?
Everything I have on my chassis is narrow since I use narrow S13 shells on this ma-020. You can get the MPower parts in wide or narrow, just depends on what shells you want to use.
Clay Barnes yeah it’s been a while since I put my kit together so I wasent 100% if it came with everything required to extend the wheel bases & dident want to misspeak. Good luck with your build man & get sideways!
You need this DWS base to for the Mpower upgrade parts. www.1001hobbies.com/rc-models-cars/311270-kyosho-k-mdw100-rear-suspension-set-mini-z-awd-dws-4548565159888.html
I have a question. Just got two MA-020 for my son and I and they're completely stock. We're both having a problem with the front hinge pin clips. They keep falling off. Happened to my son about 4 times and luckily he found it each time. Just happened to me tonight and can't find the clip. I know I can but anther but don't wanna buy the whole parts bag for that clip. Is there a mod or an upgrade? I've done some searching and coming up with almost nothing. Can't believe we're the only ones experiencing this. We're not even crashing into anything.
Hello, yes those little clips are the bane of all mini-z AWD users. They would constantly pop off my kit as well & they are incredibly easy to lose. Like you said its a PITA to source replacements since Kyosho wants you to buy that little kit... That said there are a couple guys out there that are 3d printing replacement clips & selling them to the community. I'm not sure who is selling them but if you ask in the Facebook groups they will point you in the right direction. Regarding an upgrade to remove the clips, you are on the right video. The MPower front arms offer threaded pins so you never have to worry about those clips again, however they are pricy.
@@BMR3 I was looking at the MPower option. It seems to consist of two pieces. Do I have to buy both to fit or will the part that holds the hingepin work alone?
Matthieu C sadly I don’t get to use the LM chassis too much since I need to replace the stock tires for better grip. If you live in Le Mans, have you been to the races?
Hey brother awesome videos 🤘🏻having a few questions still was hoping I can get your email or something to contact you about a few questions I have? Just getting into Mini z! Thanks!!
Very informative. This will save serious hobbyist a lot of money on aesthetic but useless upgrades.
Nice video. Do you have any tips in getting rid of mini z servo slop??
so im looking into the build that you got here and i decided to check out the mpower site. if i get all the parts for a dws (i have the ma020 impreza wrc) will it all work with the car i have and where do i get the rear shocks?
Hey BMR, really nice video, I was wondering where you got your rear shocks, I am trying to make a similar build and wondering what the rear shocks are. Thanks!
Hey man, the shocks come with the Kyosho DWS rear end kit. You need the DWS rear end to slap these Mpower parts on. Hope this helps, let me know if you have further questions & good luck with your build!
@@BMR3 hey thank you man, I’ve been looking around for them. And thanks for the quick reply! Awesome Channel man! Will definitely be subscribing!
Hello BMR, awesome video, what type of swing shaft are you using, the Mpower looks amazing and very expensive, my cousin sold me his ma 020ve pro with eagle racing metal upgrades, I can see my metal rear swing arm too small for the eagle racing, using the stock longer swing shalf is too long, it look like the eagle racing rear lower arm either to longer (short), i ask about the stock parts but it look like he can’t find it anymore, I think it not going anywhere, do you think I should go to a different project and put this aside?
I notice if i replace the bearing with a wider width, it might solved the problem, do you recommend bearing size and width? I never run this( radio not included), still waiting for my flysky nb4 with optional receiver. Thanks in advance.
Hey!! Love your videos, I bought most of the rear end upgrades but I can’t find the rear shocks. Could you share a link for those?
Hey man thanks for the support & sorry for the late reply! What part do you mean? The shocks on the chassis came from the DWS kit
Nice
Thanks man!
Great video, can I ask where you got the wheels and tyres
Hey man thanks for the support! The gold rims are the ones that come with the Nissan S13 Autoscale.
Can you recommend a brushless motor and also how to eliminate (if possible) the play in the front steering? The car never tracks straight due to this play, out of the box. Thanks
I’m using the 4100kv Xspeed on my ma-030Evo & it’s great for drifting. As far as the front tires being wobbly, you can shim the front steering knuckles to help eliminate some of the slop in the swing arms & tires. Aside from that you can adjust the steering trim with the controller, but mini-z AWD always have a bit of slop in the front steering
Subscribed.
Hi, Do you know if the MA020 rear end is cross compatible with the MA030 (non-DWS)? I was thinking of running PN aluminum Knuckles rear but I dont see the MA030 available, only the MA020. Also, what about the rear toe bar, are they also x-compatible?
Do you also know if the front end of the MA020 has the same width as the Narrow configuration of the MA030?
Thank you!
Hey man, thanks for the sub.
Yes the stock ma-010 ma-020 & ma-030 all use the same exact rear end & the parts are universally comparable.
The DWS is also universally compatible across all three platforms. Just be careful since the stock king pin style rear end parts are not compatible with the DWS & vise virsa.
As for the front ends, yes they will have the same track width for the 020 & 030.
Hope this helps, let me know if you need further clarification & good luck with your build!
I appreciated that, thank you!
Nice video i am going to build my mini z with M power. But i got 1 question , where did you find the black rear springs for the DWS? i cannot find them in the list of M power products
You have to buy the full DWS kit from Kyosho as the base & add the Mpower parts as upgrades
@@BMR3 oh my god are you sure ? I thought I can go straight to Mpower without wasting extra money.🙁 Can you tell me the number of the KYISHO DWS KIT ? Is the MDW100 ?
@@ChristosPanT yep it’s mdw100 & sadly you need it as the base to add the upgrades onto. I haven’t seen any companies make a full DWS replacement, only upgrade parts.
Hi BMR, can I transfer all electronic including the servo from the Evo-03 to this chassis.? Please let me know and Thankyou.! We love your videos.! So informative .!
Hey Piinky, No I don't think you can since the MA-030Evo uses a completely new style of receiver (the type that lets you change the chip) & the servo has a slightly different style from my understanding due to the motor being mounted in the front.
If you want a MA-020EVO you can buy a brushless board & motor, then do a conversion but it will still be different from the 030 since they have a different style of receiver board.
Hope this helps & thank you for the support!
@@BMR3 yes.! That’s very helpful. ThAnkyou for saving me money and time.!! I know what to buy now!! Thankyou for helping me in this adventure.!!! ❤️❤️🙏
Awesome brother! Im always happy to help & good luck on your adventure!!
Great to hear that you get your money’s worth in quality machining/design! No upgrade drive? Any difference in performance? Thank you for this content.....you helped make up my mind. I was going to add a mini-z to my collection. Instead I’m going to get another full boat 1/10 yd2sx. I can easily see spending $800 on mini-z/spares/upgrades.....and performance/repeatability seems questionable.
Dude skip the mini-z, I’m starting to realize they are the kiddie version of micro RC & can’t compare to something like the yd2sx.
You seem to be pretty advanced with RC, have you looked into Atomic DRZ? It’s a RWD drifter that’s uses “normal RC” style electronics & you can upgrade the steering system to a bell crank that mimics the yd2s steering system.
I have a DRZ in the mail with the Super Skeeter (yes I realize how ridiculous the name is 😹) & I will be making videos all about it. Stay tuned to the channel, I feel the DRZ is more your style.
Thanks for the comment by the way, this is exactly why I intended my channel to do. I’m glad I could help you make an informed decision 😼
Channel content and edit is clean and concise! I've been RC for 40+ years?!?!....Most lately fixed wing and Freestyle/racing kwads. I've started a business teaching a STEM program incorporating Flitetest's online STEM curriculum. Some of my students are interested in starting with R/C cars/trucks, so investigating the different options...work..work..work😁 I've have a couple 1/10 4wd countersteer MST 01D that are great for asphalt and a YD2sx2 RWD for concrete(local track only allows RWD)......for years, but I didn't get really proficient until Quarantine closed all our flying fields. Mini-z looked promising for indoor/small space use, and perhaps for touring racing?....and the available bodies are as cool as it gets.....but ultimately, I feel that if I spent hours practicing with the mini-z......I'd just be frustrated. 1/10 scale tuning, whether it be touring, off-road, drift, crawling is very satisfying and repeatable....just like full-size.
great review
Thanks man!
Will the front aluminium diff cover fit the ma030? On the m power site its only listed as compatible with the 020 and does not show as compatible with the 030? Thanks
sorry for the late reply but no it wont fit since the MA-030 uses a high front motor mount & the spur gear feeds directly into the diff cover.
Hi BMR I really like your content, very helpful, I would like to get into this mini z drifting but I cant seem to find one for sale, any tips on where to get one? I'm from California
Hey Cyle, thanks for the support! I have been checking & the mini-z AWD is sold out everywhere sadly. I’ll update you if I can find some in stock
Thanks BMR I really appreciate your help
Kyosho America just got some Ma-020 ready sets in stock right now
I got the wide front diff cover that you recommended and the swing shafts are too short. Are you using long swing shafts?
My chassis is narrow. But to answer your question yes you will need wide arms with the wide diff cover.
Oh well your link in the description shows the wide one.
Hey BMR 3, I have the swing arms as well and I cannot get them to fit as the mount seems to be too short. may I know how did you managed to install it? Thanks in advance!
There are two versions of swings arms depending if your using a narrow or wide front. It sounds like you purchased the narrow arms but you needed the wider version.
@@BMR3 sorry I meant the rear swing arm. The original ones have ball joints to slot into the toe bar and on the rear mount. The mpower ones are just too short.
Hi, may I know where to purchase MPower parts? The front translucent plastic screws used instead of metal screws are to prevent plastic parts contact with metal parts abrasion?
Here is a link to their website to order direct: www.mpower-pro.com/ma020
@@BMR3 Thank you
Hey brother are these parts for the wide set up not the narrow thanks
Everything I have on my chassis is narrow since I use narrow S13 shells on this ma-020.
You can get the MPower parts in wide or narrow, just depends on what shells you want to use.
With the rear end does it extend the wheel base out or does it stay the same
Standard 90-94mm wheel base is what I have here, I think you need the extension kit to reach 98mm
@@BMR3 thanks for the response just got confirmation the kit from hrc mini z arena comes with all the bits to make it 98mm cheers
Clay Barnes yeah it’s been a while since I put my kit together so I wasent 100% if it came with everything required to extend the wheel bases & dident want to misspeak.
Good luck with your build man & get sideways!
Does anyone have a link for the rear shocks? I can’t find them anywhere
You need this DWS base to for the Mpower upgrade parts. www.1001hobbies.com/rc-models-cars/311270-kyosho-k-mdw100-rear-suspension-set-mini-z-awd-dws-4548565159888.html
I have a question. Just got two MA-020 for my son and I and they're completely stock. We're both having a problem with the front hinge pin clips. They keep falling off. Happened to my son about 4 times and luckily he found it each time. Just happened to me tonight and can't find the clip. I know I can but anther but don't wanna buy the whole parts bag for that clip. Is there a mod or an upgrade? I've done some searching and coming up with almost nothing. Can't believe we're the only ones experiencing this. We're not even crashing into anything.
Hello, yes those little clips are the bane of all mini-z AWD users. They would constantly pop off my kit as well & they are incredibly easy to lose. Like you said its a PITA to source replacements since Kyosho wants you to buy that little kit... That said there are a couple guys out there that are 3d printing replacement clips & selling them to the community. I'm not sure who is selling them but if you ask in the Facebook groups they will point you in the right direction.
Regarding an upgrade to remove the clips, you are on the right video. The MPower front arms offer threaded pins so you never have to worry about those clips again, however they are pricy.
@@BMR3 I was looking at the MPower option. It seems to consist of two pieces. Do I have to buy both to fit or will the part that holds the hingepin work alone?
@@glinx1 well I mean you could thread the pins into the stock plastic arms I guess, I don’t see it being an issue.
I can’t get the 2 degree knuckles to work 😬
What do you mean? Is the knuckle binding?
Can I ask why do they now fit the ma030
Only the front suspension arms & rear pieces fit the 030. The diff cover does not work though since the 030 has a high motor mount.
M power parts are good for RWD too!
I’m sure they are, I just haven’t had the chance to purchase some yet. Hopefully in time I can get my hands on them
@@BMR3 You still use your Le Mans RWD?
As I live in Le Mans, I'm planning to build a 102mm from a MR03 Evo!
Matthieu C sadly I don’t get to use the LM chassis too much since I need to replace the stock tires for better grip.
If you live in Le Mans, have you been to the races?
@@BMR3 About each year since 1991!
Matthieu C gotta day I’m jealous mean, that’s awesome! I love the smell of the racing 😎
Never any links?! 😢
What about the rims ?
What about them?
@@BMR3 The brand please
Kyosho, they came with S13 Autoscale
I uncle Blake
Love you uncle Blake
Hey brother awesome videos 🤘🏻having a few questions still was hoping I can get your email or something to contact you about a few questions I have? Just getting into Mini z! Thanks!!