Halloween & Halloween 2 Review - Off The Shelf Reviews
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- This week Gary and Iain review and discuss, Halloween (2007) by Director, Rob Zombie. Starring, Scout Taylor-Compton, Malcolm McDowell, Tyler Mane and Sheri Moon Zombie. Also reviewing Halloween 2 (2009) by Director, Rob Zombie. Starring, Scout Taylor-Compton, Tyler Mane, Malcolm McDowell and Danielle Harris.
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Fun fact: in the 2nd movie during the hospital sequence the security shack was supposed to have a break away wall but due to a mix up the wall was solid plywood and the actor playing Michael punched throw it anyway with practically no effort
That's Tyler Mane for ya man!
Tyler Mane is a beast that’s why lol, I’d love to see a Michael vs Jason movie with Tyler Mane fighting Derek Mears (from the 2009 Friday the 13th)
The first Rob Zombie Halloween was actually alright in my opinion. It doesn't even *touch* Mr. Carpenter's masterpiece, but as it's own thing, it's a pretty enjoyable watch. Just forget that it's a Michael Myers movie.
The second Rob Zombie Halloween... Oh my God... Absolute cancer.
the first remake isnt amazing like the first but its a good movie it suffers from a weaker second half an a more interesting first half you can tell rob zombie wasnt interested in remaking the original an wanted to do his own thing an thats why the first half is better this movie if re worked honestly would have been better as a halloween prequel lol
I actually like the second movie. It's one of my favorites in the Halloween franchise. The main reason for this is because it's differnt from the rest of the series. I know why people don't like it and I know all the problems with it but I still like it.
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in H2s commentary on dvd Zombie claimed he saw a white horse in a field as he was driving to his iffice one day or so , thought hey that looks cool , so he put it into H2. Thats his only reason basically verbatim of that horse. lol
michael's mother had to be in the movie because...rob zombie...his wife is in litteraly everything he does
also, he didn't want to make the second movie or wanted it to happen. the studio, however, told him they were going to make a sequel with or without him, so he just went nuts and crapped on the studio before the studio could crap on his film by making a sequel to his remake.
Are you guy's gonna do Devil's Rejects or House of a 1,000 Corpses?
You red my mind
TUESDAY DECEMBER 3rd 2019
DECKER SHADO
reviewed
HOUSE OF A 1000 CORPSES
and the movie still looks like
SHIT
💩
Oddly enough Rob Zombie has said that he was not trying to sympathize the serial killers in "The Devil's Rejects", nor glamorize their acts, but the fact that you commend him for doing just that, says how spectacularly he failed in his efforts.
Or maybe it just me, and going up against incredible odds in slow motion to the strains of "Freebird" is a crappy way to meet your demise. That is if they actually did.
Had to stop by here and leave a comment when you guys were talking about the bathroom stall.
Fun fact for others who don't know! That scene was shot at a real truck stop, and inside a real bathroom in said truck stop. Tyler Mane (Michael) and Ken Foree legitimately fought each other in that scene, and the destruction they left in that stall was legit. Part of the film's budget actually went to repairing the damages.
After learning that, the scene became so much more effective for me. Makes my wrist hurt.
I've completed watching all of your 'Halloween' reviews. I appreciate your patience in reviewing some of these schlocks. I'm glad to have missed most of these. I'm going to stick with the John Carpenter original for Halloween.
The original Halloween and Halloween 2 are simply unbeatable movies. Sorry Rob Zombie, but the simpler the better when it comes to a movie like Halloween. Its the one thing John Carpenter understood so well, and the one thing which you clearly didn't.
Thought you were describing John Woo in the beginning when you described independent directors.
Zombie's remake is absolutely magical compared to the recent pish we got.Underrated gem.
Can you guys do House Of 1000 Corpses and The Devils Rejects. Cool video though 👍 👍 👍
Which version of Halloween did you review? Was it the theatrical version or the uncut version? Each are extremely different.
James Daniel Massey they reviewed the uncut version.
one scene i did love at least was when dr loomis is on stage raging about myers being dead and they keep cutting to mountainish areas of haddonfiled samtimeish almost as to say hes dead but look maybe hes still on is way still too? lol
The only way they could justify him surviving the headshot is he was so strong that when he grabbed her wrist, he pulled it and it was just a glancing shot
19:57 grabs a fork not a knife. (;
I watched both of these in
the movie theater
They made so many excuses for all the other Halloween films after one and two for why they couldn’t use that mask and yet somehow Rob Zombie was able to use it
So you can love him or you hate him, but at least he made Michael Myers terrifying again
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I enjoy the first film quite a bit.
At the time the second film came out, I was 17. I was pumped. I'm a huge Zombie fan and I liked his first movie, and I walked out and left my mom in the theater when we saw the second. I felt bad but I had a lot of rage at the time. Zombie's Halloween II is the only movie to date that I've walked out on.
The second one is my favorite Halloween movie but I can see why people don't like it
Michael follows his ghost mother
Is similar to Jason and his dead mom
I love Rob Zombie's music but I hate his movies. I'm like the Shining more than Halloween. More Jaws than Friday the 13th. I feel that slasher films in general are god awful, I applaud more psychological horror than blood, gore, sex, nudity etc. Zombie's idea of horror is just not for me, but the man is clearly a passionate director and a very talented musician.
HALLOWEEN 3 :
SEASON OF THE WITCH
🎃💀👩
we are the worst
HALLOWEEN movie
HALLOWEEN 6 :
THE CURSE OF MICHAEL MYERS
hold my
RUNE STONE
|>
HALLOWEEN : RESURRECTION
hold my
WEBCAM
🖥️
ROB ZOMBIE :
hold my
JOINT
🚬
HALLOWEEN 2018 :
hold this
💩
No nature vs nurture was never a Halloween element. Dr. Loomis very plainly explained him as just evil for no reason. Giving a reason ruined it.
I liked Rob Zombies Halloween, I must be in the minority, I REALLY like Zombies H2!
Halloween movies ranked
1. Halloween
2. Halloween 3
3. Halloween h20
4. Halloween 2
5. Halloween 4
5. Halloween remake
6. Halloween 6
7. Halloween 5
8. Halloween resurrection
9. H2
The first Zombie Halloween was an ok film. Not great, but not bad. I had problems with it, but I enjoyed it. The second, however, was GOD AWFUL. So dissapointed in it. Just an unbearable, depressing, abortion of a film.
Rob Zombie DEFINITELY can't nail a psychological movie. John Carpenter originally had a similar idea for Halloween 4. But it was turned down for the ok-ish Halloween 4. I think that John Carpenter would have made a really good Halloween 4. I hated this movie AND the first remake because it abandoned the mystery of why Michael would do such things. Plus, they try to make you feel bad about him, which is the very opposite of what the point of the original was!
Yes I agree. The first remake was 'ok' It was a good take on the original but the 2nd one was just a horrible steaming pile of junk.
house of 1000 corpses was fun but also felt like a texas chainsaw tale minus the chainsaws.
couldnt agree more,really enjoyed the first film with rob zombies grime but the sequel was a complete mess
Finally somebody agrees that Halloween remake number 1 is fricken Shakespeare compared to Halloween remake 2. That's not an insult i think Halloween remake one is my favorite movie ever
Even Rob Zombie himself said if you just want to watch the original then you should do that
I can’t make the original any better than it was and I wouldn’t even try
So he did the only thing he could, which was fill in the gaps
You can foil the plot of ANY Halloween movie by throwing in a trip to France.
Jesus, even moving to Indiana would've helped.
I like Rob´s Zombies Halloween more than the originals ... both of them , maybe the grindhouse look is what sells me more.
i dont get the appeal to Rob Zombie films they are always rip offs of better movies and done way worse with more gore.
Same here. I watched Devil's Rejects at a friends house and thought it was one of the dumbest things I've ever seen.
I remember seeing the poster at my local movie theater. I may have came in my pants. It was approximately 8 months before the release. I thought " Halloween remake, Rob Zombie, OMG! , This will be amazing!!!!!"
I saw the film opening night and left the theater thinking it was great. Time eventually got me to realize it sucks and how stupid it is. But I was so excited at the time , it took a good two years to come to terms. What a great two years. On the other hand, I thought H2O was good when I saw it.
I think Zombies remake is still better than h2o
To expose the humanities of young Michael, tore me apart! I knew how it was (historically) supposed to end, but I was hoping he would “do his mother proud” and go the other way (like an accountant or a lawyer)...maybe we should blame the prison system?
And far as the mom’s suicide...most of us moms blame ourselves for our children’s failing. It would be an understanding end for our child not getting better under “doctor’s care”...she did the right thing but the only blame is on her (the system failed her child) because it must have been something she had done.
Halloween re-inmagination, "double feature."🎵🎶 -Rocky Horror Picture Show, 1975. ;-)
I think it's important to mention that the remake was going to be made with or without Rob Zombie anyway.
So I rather have Rob (a fan of the original) make it instead of some unknown guy that doesn't care at all.
It's definetly not great, but it's not awefull either.
I enjoy it for what it is.
Rob zombie has to shoehorn his wife in to Halloween 2 and the white horse nonsense was all purely for her benefit. I absolutely despise rob zombie films, they’re gross and hard to watch. And don’t get me started on his disgusting dialogue. He’s a much better musician than a film maker.
Oh and great review guys, entertaining and insightful as always.
Michael ate a dog in the 1978 original.
RONNIE
WAS THE STEPFATHER
I think the two words that sum up this remake to an absolute tee are 'extreme overkill'. There is literally not a single ounce of the eerie mystery and atmosphere that Carpenter's film was so expertly able to invoke in viewers back in 1978. Zombie did not have a single clue or an original idea in his head as to what should have been done with such a remake imo.
What about Dee Wallace??
For me the remake is far better than any of the original poor sequels.
I think the
HALLOWEEN 2007 remake
would've been better if
ROB ZOMBIE
had used the original
HALLOWEEN 1978 title name
and idea
before it was changed
HELLoween
it was just a crazy man
killing people while wearing
different scary masks
that is more of a
ROB ZOMBIE style movie
Would have been awesome if Freddy Kruger was shown in the beginning of Halloween 2, due to it being a nightmare it would have made sense to the scene and opened the door for a fucked up Halloween Vs Freddy movie by ROB ZOMBIE, that could have been fucking awesome but that didn't happen so, yeah... just we idea.
Based off your review of Rob Zombies Halloween, and your Halloween H2O review, I don't think you guys understood what makes a good Halloween film. On your H2O review, you guys were complaining about the slow suspense buildup that even the original first 2 Halloween's had, which is what made the films work(in terms of being scary). The Rob Zombie Halloween had little to no suspense buildup, and was just a brutal bodycount, which wasn't scary AT ALL. The first 40 minutes of the film made the character of Michael Myers way less scary because it was made to where you were supposed to sympathize with him. No, you are not supposed to feel sorry for "Evil Incarnate", "The Boogeyman". It defeats the whole purpose of the movie. Halloween H2O was WAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY better than Rob Zombies Halloween. I agree with your other Halloween reviews, but I have no idea how you can give Rob Zombies Halloween a pass, but trash on Halloween H2O.
+goofsRus Completly agree with you. Even Ressurection was better than the RZ´s shit-outs.
Raum Akustik Right. At least they tried something unique.
Well said. I completely agree. Even though sequels can ruin great film franchises, at least they aren't remakes. I'm so sick of remakes.
Thank you so much mate and i completly agree with you too. :D
Definitely agree with you they was biased because they like rob zombie a Big L O L !
They are fans of him I watched all their Halloween reviews they were super light on him made me Scratch my head like what??? U clown the other Halloween movie Because they had LL Cool J and Busta Rhymes in there like shited all over the other movies smh even shited on h20 like for real? This guy had no clue what he was doing with the films creative direction I hated watching this review because they barely talked shit about his Halloween movies but 4,5,6,h20,8 Was Bad???? Fuck Outta here
No Devil's Rejects is awful specifically because he tried to make evil sympathetic. It shows he has no understanding of evil at all. I like his music though.
I preferred the remake of the first one, but that second movie was a cancer.
bigevil, fuck off dude it's his opinion.
bigevilworldwide1
Quit being an idiot. It's his opinion. I understood the entirety of Rob Zombie's Halloween 2 and I thought it was stupid as well.
meh i call Bray Wyatt, the Rob Zombie clan...like every male character in those movies
Well you've reviewed all the films, here's my ranking (probably not an uncommon opinion):
1. Halloween (1978)
2. Halloween 2 (1981)
3. Halloween H20: 20 Years Later
4. Halloween (2007)
5. Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers
6. Halloween 6: The Curse of Michael Myers
7. Halloween 5: The Revenge of Michael Myers
8. Halloween Resurrection
9. Halloween 2 (2009)
10. Halloween 3: Season of the Witch
JawsKid yup that list is accurate
@JawsKid
Halloween II (81)
Halloween (78)
Halloween 6 (PC)
halloween III
Halloween 4
halloween 5
Halloween H20
Resurrection
Halloween II (09)
Halloween (07)
I respect your opinion, I personally love Halloween 3 the best.
Unlike most people, I really enjoyed Rob Zombie's Halloween II, and it's my favorite movie in the series. To start off with negatives, I dislike Dr. Loomis in this one, and I hate how Annie was killed. I also didn't like the ending to the Unrated version where Laurie dies. I much more prefer the Theatrical cut where the pace is a little quicker, and Laurie lives. The good things about the movie, I like seeing how everyone changed because of the attacks. Laurie has become a psychological mess, Annie has matured a lot, and Sheriff Brackett has become more caring towards Annie and Laurie. I think Scout Taylor-Compton is a better as Laurie because not only do I strongly dislike H20 and H:R, but since I'm a teenager now, she and her friends seem more relatable and more like the teens in my generation. She also plays Laurie well in this one because seeing how she was a really friendly and nice person in the first one, and seeing how Michael has messed her life up makes her more sympathetic. I don't mind Michael's look in this one because really what does he do for the rest of the year when it's not Halloween? He's not going to wear the mask 24/7, because the latex will rot further. Seeing his mom is his perception and not actually her spirit talking to him. Dr. Loomis is my favorite character in the original movies, and Laurie is my favorite character in the remakes.
+Eric Moss H20 and H:R are really good. RZH2 is not bad, i like the first 30 minutes but I find it gets a little boring after that.
+Eric Moss it weird you think rz h2 is the best in the series, you must like some shit films
I’ve always felt that the dream sequence in 2 should have been real and that was the death of Laurie. I think she should have been dead the rest of the film and we just dealt with Loomis and Hobo Michael
I like the first, how we follow Michael as a kid. We get to see how he got to who he is
No, they took all the mystery out of Michael. He’s a cliche.
@@MartyMcFly88A masked killer stalking teenage girls isn't cliche? 😂
@@RuudHooletsNest but at least in the original he was a mystery, we didn’t know why he did what he did. Rob Zombie turned him into a walking cliche- bullied at school, torturing animals, stripper step mom, broken home, abusive stepfather. Absolute garbage movie.
@@MartyMcFly88 That's why it's a remake 🤣 You want to watch another Gus Van Sant shot for shot remake?
@@RuudHooletsNest No, but I didn’t want Michaels backstory spelled out in a cliche bullshit explanation
It was a mistake to explain why myers became a killer. He's more menacing when you don't understand it. The only good movies in this franchise and the first 2.
Love the remake of the first one but they second one sucked 😂😂😂
16:37
I fully understand what Rob Zombie was trying to do with the Halloween remake by expanding upon Michael's troubled youth making him into the Mass Murderer we all know and love...but it didn't need it whatsoever. It bogged down the backstory with details i didn't need or want. I know Michael's a demented, psychotic mass murdering maniac, i didn't need a backstory to explain that though, i just accepted it and ran with it. Making Michael more Humanised takes away from the unstoppable, (maybe supernatural) force of nature stalking machine that scares us, simply because i can't empathise with someone who's barely Human.
And why did he make him so big, he's built like a Wrestler.
Michael (in my opinion) is an ordinary man who's bat shit crazy, barely Human, but still a man. Making him so big verges on Jason Vorhees teritory of being a brute force killer, this is Jason's trait, not Michael's.
I don't like the Rob Zombie Halloweens for numerous reasons, and i'm a massive fan of John Carpenter's Halloween mostly because he made Michael appear to be an everyman, anyone could be like that if they are crazy enough, and that's scary. The blank slate character added so much for the viewer to impose their own opinions on Michael's backstory that's more effective than anything you can put on film.
True Horror is in the mind, the fear of the unknown, what hides in the darkness...that's where you'll find Michael.
Great reviews though.
sorry her name is kiera, but she knows horror and respects as well!
Rob Zombie is a person that is completely devoid of any talent.
Sherry has a smoking body to be fair 🔥
Always though this is a massive misunderstood film. Micheal isn't in the movie he died at the end of the first movie this film is all in Lauries head she is the killer and if you watch it with that mindset it is a different experience ,all the clues that she is the killer are there
matt midgley then why when loomis walks in the shack is he asking michael to let her leave with him then loomis and michael go thru the side of the barn...? I rewatched it again and that part doesnt fit..
That would have been cool. But it’s not correct I’m afraid. Like the last guy said, Loomis talks to Michael in the barn. Michael IS the killer in H2
Yes. I agree. rob zombie's halloween II was really crap.
Great review lads (as always) I found these films really trashy and just didn't enjoy them, I can also see why the great JC said what he said about Rob.
I've only just watched the second half of the video. Zombie's Halloween II is the one Halloween film I couldn't bring myself to watch. After his first attempt. I don't even give Zombie credit for expanding the mythos of MIchael Myers. The mythos is what's known as backstory. The function of backstory is to aid the story. It should never have been expanded.
That's a lot of short sentences.
Other films that are examples of backstory expanded are Terminator Salvation and the Star Wars prequels - the most reviled trilogy in history.
Yea
RZ Halloween 2 is possibly the worst horror film going, you never even mentioned him taking the mask off him for most of it
To be fair the unmasking of the killer(see Jason and pretty much every Jason like character save for ones like Victor Crowley who never had masks to begin with) had been basically to death at this point so eh it's not as big a deal as it would have been if these were non remake Halloween movies.
Danny is a custodian . Not a nurse!
Dee wallace has a role to
This killed the franchise. No chance Halloween ever comes back. If it does they should do something crazy like have Kenny Powers be a writer and let the guy who directed Pineapple Express direct…
The first is alright The second is terrible
??? Seriously, you guys enjoyed the RZ remake??? I thought it was tedious bullshit!
Now I will never watch these movies because I loathe Rob Zombie but I’ll give him one point to his halloween 2 remake and that is the use of love hurts because that scene is the only good scene in both of these movies in my opinion
PS:WILL SOMEBODY TELL ME WHAT SHERRI MOON SEES IN ROB ZOMBIE BECAUSE ALL I SEE IS A GUY THAT CLEARY DOESN’T HAVE A CLUE ABOUT DECENCY AND SUBTLETY
I liked to
HALLOWEEN 2 2009
remake alternate ending
where LAURIE STRODE
is killed
that prevents anymore
ROB ZOMBIE
HALLOWEEN movies
Hated this remake.
Not a single likeable character (Laurie is awful in the first one not just the sequel) , Micheal wasn’t a mystery, random rape for no reason other than Rob thinks he’s being edgy and cool.
Would rather watch a Tarantino movie as they’re full of violence and swearing and are good!
Michael wasn’t a mystery? I guess criminologists can write off 75 percent of serial killers as “solved,” because they came from abusive households and got bullied at school. Case closed: getting teased in the bathroom, getting cussed at during breakfast, and being degraded by an alcoholic stepdad causes kids to torture animals, bludgeon classmates to death in the woods, and massacre their families. Better alert law enforcement personnel that a million kids around the country are fledging mass murderers…
Jeez dude, you don’t have to like the route Rob Zombie took-I didn’t like the movie either-but his film made it blatantly clear that Michael was just a sadistic killer who happened to come from a broken home. It’s called nuance. I’m just tired of seeing so many people levy such a dumb criticism.
Toouch swearing but nice review!;)
Anyone else crushing on Iain?
Everyday 😂
Rob zombies remakes are i find useless , yes Mc dowell , Harris and Dourif are all awesome in them and the musics cool too. But otherwise feels so useless , it even showed us more of myers early years that actually might make is even more say hate him instead of sympatise with him kinda too? Part 2 , even with directors comentary by Zombie himself , still doesnt make much sense at all. the dream sequences were cool but otherwise what a huh mess.
08:13
Ypu mean 8:11?
Disagree guys on this occasion. Both these films are atrocious. The second film I could write a list on what’s terrible. But, going back to the first film let’s just say at a very fundamental level Rob Zombie doesn’t understand what makes Halloween great. Micheal Myers was an ordinary boy from an ordinary family who for whatever reason one Halloween puts a mask on and butchers his sister to death. THAT IS WHAT MAKES HIM SCARY. Not that he’s from a dysfunctional family where it’s clear he’s gonna have some issues. These films fail to capture what made the original great in every way. And yes, the second film is even worse and I hate it.
Second one goes on my shitlist just for how badly edited it is alone. The only other cinematic releases I can even think of with editing that bad are _Suicide Squad_ and _The Curse of Michael Myers._
If your production (I refuse to call these things "movies") causes me actual physical pain from trying to watch it, you have failed as a filmmaker, and earned my personal hatred.
H2 is garbage and if I were the Halloween producers I would re shoot this film!
First one 8/10 second 3/10
First remake 10/10 second remake 0/10
It's obvious Rob Zombie has no idea of young girls' casual talk. Highschool girls are sexual deviates according to him.
Danny Trejo’s death is the characters fault. Michael would not have killed him if he would not have tried to handcuff him and put him back in his cell. He was a fucking janitor, he should have just walked away and called the cops and he would have been fine. He paid for his betrayal and the he begged. I saw this in the theater and part of the way the film stopped. After about a half hour of waiting for the movie to restart and while discussing what we had just seen we all realized what shit this movie was and got our money back. I watched this later on and I am glad we left. This movie sucked.
The casting could of been better young Michael from the film Hancock is a joke blonde and hardly ever scary looking does not build him up to be this icon and there is no need for a why he kills as the killing because is far more terrifying
ROB ZOMBIE
HALLOWEEN 2 2009
Would've been better
without the
SEYMOUR COFFINS
crap
and also
without the
WHITE HORSE
GHOST MRS MYERS
GHOST YOUNG MICHAEL
that was annoying
But In Halloween 5 Jamie Knew When Michael Was Finna Kill
Rob Zombie sucks, these movies are awful. John Carpenter hates them and I understand why.
Rob Zombie is too hardcore for all of you people.
Like he's "film making" is so crude and edgy try-head that sucks so "too" hardcore, right?
Nah
Both movies are SHIT! IMHO
Harry CallahanX Your life is shit.
Ha sypythentic to the killers from devils rejects er bleep no
i respect your opinions guys, but i also find you guys contradict yourself a lot.. for example if they do the same thing you guys say 'why are you redoing it? we;ve already seen this'.. but if they do something different, you guys dont like that either.. ie. loomis being a dick in part 2, which i dont disagree that it was a dumb idea, but at least tehy did soemthing differnt with it.
flaming hot garbage
These movies are so dumb and cliché. I can't stand them.
Agree
Zombie seems like a cool guy but he's an atrocious filmmaker.
Rob Zombie's version sucks!!@
Perpetual.Art 100% agree
This Michael is pathetic. He's like an overemotional little girl and he looks like a little girl. The original Michael was way better. He came from a loving home but he's just a random, soulless killer. There's nothing human about him and that's just so mysterious. The cameos doesn't make this film good.
He was a soulless killer in this one, too. He just happened to come from a broken home. It’s called nuance. You don’t have to like the change, but I think it’s fallacious to say this film somehow abandoned Michael Myers’ lore as far as his killer instinct goes. Rob Zombie’s film, in my opinion, clearly shows that Michael’s upbringing didn’t *cause* his murderous tendencies.
Rob Zombie is an overrated hack. That is all.
This movie was so disgusting
The language the rape just to much
I found it insulting to John Carpenter Halloween 🎃
I love both of these films, as a film buff I can't stand the original 2 carpenter's films. They are soooo slow and boring. At least Rob Zombies versions made Michael a Kratos, God of war 3 visceral killing machine. I also loved the broken Laurie and how she & Michael had a physic link. I also liked Laurie becoming the killer, but the studio interfered. I prefer Rob Zombie's versions. Some classics just don't age well to me, and this is that time to me.