Enphase IQ8 Microinverters vs IQ7 Micro inverters Which is right for you

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  • Enphase IQ8 Microinverters vs IQ7 Micro inverters - Which ic right for you? Enphase IQ8 Microinverters and Enphase IQ7 Microinverters what are the differences? I will cover some of the differences and try to help you determine which microinverter IQ8 vs IQ7? It might surprise you what I choose to go with on my system in 2022. I installed a 10kw solar system in 2022 I designed permit installed and commissioned the system. I went with Enphase Microinverters. I did have a little bit of a struggle picking between the IQ7+'s and the IQ8+'s. There are 4 models in the IQ7 lineup and the five models in the IQ8 lineup.
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    00:17 What is a Microinverter
    02:49 IQ7 Microinverter
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  • @Storx-USMC-
    @Storx-USMC- 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank You, I have been researching the DIY method, because we recently moved from Colorado to Florida and when we got solar in Colorado we payed someone else to do it... which was 40K+ for 7k system which had no battery backup. We used generators to power things during outages, but I kind of integrated battery backup in a way to the system. All the essential stuff in the house, I installed inline computer UPS systems, but to save money I just bought used commercial rack mount systems for large appliances and "rebuilt" them by replacing the internal batteries. Then for smaller stuff like our bedroom for the end table lights and my CPAP i used regular over the counter UPS systems. When we have power outages the refrigerator can still function for over 24hours roughly on the UPS before i am forced to give power back and hopefully by then i have connected the generator to the house and turned off the grid. Something really cool that i thought was very smartly planned out, the origional builders built our house in Colorado with the intentions of needing backup generator power yearly, so to figure out if the grid was back online, they wired the main breaker so the ceiling lights were wired into the main breaker only, then a sub-main panel ran off that panel which housed all the rest of the house, so the generator safety cutoff is on the 2nd main panel. Question: Whats your opinion on these bifacial panels that i see you can install vertically?

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      100% believe in the bifacial panels. Not sure about the vertical install just yet but I am in the process of building a new system that will be using bifacial panels. I hope to start testing on vertical panels sometime in the future. Spooler alert, I will not be using Enphase microinverters though. I will share more details soon.

  • @jensschnebele6206
    @jensschnebele6206 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great vid. Balanced and informative.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      Much appreciated 🙏 Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @jaytro69
    @jaytro69 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for all the useful information! You helped us make an informed decision!!

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are welcome. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @sheilaashley
    @sheilaashley ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I checked out the website, it’s awesome! Well explained video and looking forward to the next Justin!

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      Appreciate it 🙏 Thanks for watching and commenting! 👍🏻

  • @whatsreal7365
    @whatsreal7365 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome content brother, appreciate the info!

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Appreciate it! Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @georgequeen8470
    @georgequeen8470 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great and easy explanation! Thanks man!

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @shroud1390
    @shroud1390 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just to be clear the controller is a must. Whew. You nailed that part. Well done. Most vids miss that.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Much appreciated 🙏 Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @patriot7633
    @patriot7633 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks Justin for info.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @youcefsaoudi2091
    @youcefsaoudi2091 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So helpful. Thank you sir

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad it was helpful, you are welcome 🙏 Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @darrenrogers5713
    @darrenrogers5713 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks. Very well done.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      Much appreciate - Thank you for watching and commenting 👍

  • @ShaneTheGeek
    @ShaneTheGeek 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great information Justin!

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @lawrencethompson127
    @lawrencethompson127 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is the best, most informative video I have seen on solar systems. Thank You Justin.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching and commenting! 👍

    • @tiloalo
      @tiloalo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      With wrong information on string installation. Even if a panel fails, the whole string won't fail.
      And replacing a central inverter in your basement is easier than climbing on your roof usually.
      The video is biased toward micro inverter.
      Central inverter with string also allows you to extend your system with a dc battery, which you cannot do with micro inverter.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @tiloalo Not biased. I have experience with a lot of different solar equipment. It really depends on the users' overall needs. There are times when I have recommended string inverters over microinverters. Other times, microinverters are the better choice. I think no matter the choice, solar is beneficial.

    • @tiloalo
      @tiloalo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @DIYSolarBuilds exactly saying that it's the better choice is simply wrong. It depends on the setup. If access to the roof is difficult microinverters are not a good choice. The lifetime of an inverter is much shorter than the one of a solar panel, and replacement can be much more expensive if access is difficult.
      The cost is also still higher for microinverters compared to string install.

  • @carlosbonefontphd2591
    @carlosbonefontphd2591 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent informational video.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      Appreciate it! Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @richardlemmon4131
    @richardlemmon4131 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great information thank you

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it helped. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @haroldnowak2042
    @haroldnowak2042 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you, good explaination.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @martinc6273
    @martinc6273 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video Justin! I just subscribed to your channel. Agreed that Microinverters is way to go. If your DYI viewers are on a budget, it is hard to beat a string inverter system. It comes down to how much one can spend.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Much appreciated 🙏 Thanks for watching, commenting and subscribing! 👍🏻

  • @timphillips4072
    @timphillips4072 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great info i hope to go solar in a year or two

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good luck! I still have a lot more to share. Hope to be able to share most of it with everyone. Thanks for watching and commenting! 👍

  • @kevinlong3992
    @kevinlong3992 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    all useful info with no bullshit. A+ man.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Appreciate it! Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @no7dirtpoor
    @no7dirtpoor ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good info ........Thank You!

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

    • @no7dirtpoor
      @no7dirtpoor ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JustinsProject I recently got a quote for 20 IQ8A and 20 460 watt Helene panels roof mounted with Snap Rack rails all up and going for $ 22,200 before the federal rebate . I think it’s more than fair compared to some of the other quotes I got prior to this one especially cause this one is loaded compared too the others using iq7 inverters? Tell me what you think?

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      @Blake Martin If that's an out-the-door total price and is a reputable installer in your area, that is definitely a fair price.

  • @tonybliss577
    @tonybliss577 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent review! Relevant to the UK 🇬🇧

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi from across the pond! Cheers! Thanks for watching and commenting!

  • @ChrisN_is_CPngN
    @ChrisN_is_CPngN 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Whatever you do, stay online. There are semi regular software updates for both the micro inverters and the Envoy.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      True. Thanks for sharing!

  • @kumblesuraj
    @kumblesuraj 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love the simplicity in explanation. Informative and pretty damn straight. Thanks a lot.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Much appreciated 🙏 Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @petrledvina4334
    @petrledvina4334 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like your project, and thanks for sharing. One thing to note: If you panels have bypass diodes, and one of your panel goes down, the bypass diodes on this panel will let the current produced by the other panels to bypass this panel. If one of the panels has a partial shading, than it depends on the sensitivity of the diodes when they let the current bypass. Until that point, there will be some loss of power production by the other panels - to my understanding.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @michaelsilberstein
    @michaelsilberstein ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video,

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      Appreciate it! Thanks for watching and commenting! 👍

  • @leeduffell8573
    @leeduffell8573 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The failed panel's bypass diode will kick in and automatically bypass the failed panel,the same is also true for partial shading in a single inverter system

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you provide me with the string inverter you are referring to? I have not seen one be able to bypass a single panel on a string by itself without adding optimizers. I would like to learn more on that. Thanks for watching and commenting!

    • @leeduffell8573
      @leeduffell8573 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JustinsProject th-cam.com/video/ESpsdMFEFZo/w-d-xo.html it's no so much the inverter as the bypass diodes in the solar panel hope the link to the video above helps

    • @christopherscholz
      @christopherscholz ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@JustinsProject HiJustin, bypass diodes are built into the solar panels. You’ll have a hard time finding a panel without built-in bypass diodes. Part of the maintenance process of commercial solar farms is to test the proper function of the bypass diodes.
      Bypass diodes reduce the impact of partial shading of a panel and if an entire panel is defective they make sure the string is still producing electricity.
      This doesn’t mean that micro inverters are not useful.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@christopherscholz Much appreciated! 🙏 Thanks for the information on that.

    • @mikejoseph425
      @mikejoseph425 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Your presentations are very good but it seems to me that by doing the work yourself and learning as you go along might be more expensive than going to a professional installer in the first place. Using batteries @ £2100 for 5 kWh may have been a better investment than the micro inverters as all modern PV come with bypass diodes which deals with shading, not as effectively as micro inverters perhaps
      Anyone planning on doing the job themselves needs to do a course or at the very least look at as many TH-cam presentations as possible and you would be well advised not to attempt the electrical work

  • @ananda_miaoyin
    @ananda_miaoyin 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey, bro. Nice review.
    I own a solar company in Cali and just rocked an IQ8+ system on my own house. The cobbler's kids finally have shoes!
    I was looking into the controller and elected to shitcan the idea and just use my 12kW generator which does run both houses and my well system.
    I would love a battery system and tell the power company to come and get their meter but even at my prices....it ain't worth it. Yet.
    I am also one of the lucky ones with a 1:1 export rate. That died for Cali in April.
    Now it is 8:1 return. They screwed us hard.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The prices on those batteries are a little on the high side. I wish I could find a solution for my system also. 8:1 is ridiculous. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

    • @ddyoder
      @ddyoder 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm with you brother. I had an IQ8+ system installed in my house in California back in May 2022. Got in that nice NEM 2.0 export contract with SoCal Edison before they threw that out of April 2023. I'm waiting for a bit before adding battery storage or even getting an EV once there is bi-directional charging offerings so I can use my massive EV car battery as a house backup. Being patient for now

    • @ananda_miaoyin
      @ananda_miaoyin 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ddyoder Hell yeah, good work!

  • @anthonycanning7062
    @anthonycanning7062 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have 21 on my roof the are brilliant.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome! Which models are you using with what size panels? Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @glassdomedesign
    @glassdomedesign 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very helpful - particularly as I’m in the U.K. and getting info on the enphase inverters is hard. We have 4 panels with IQ7As at the moment with the Tesla 2 battery and gateway. We’re thinking of adding more panels but on an outbuilding. Is it as simple as wiring these into a circuit and the system will pick them up? Or do they need to be programmed to the gateway to make them work?

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They should be connected to the combiner box with your existing IQ7A's. You want to make sure you are doing everything the manufacturer recommends so you can maintain a warranty on them. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

    • @glassdomedesign
      @glassdomedesign 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JustinsProject thanks so much. Challenge is we have a cabin in the garden and it’s around 100feet from the house. I was hoping to put panels on the roof of it and feet them straight in to the ring main. Only 4 panels so it would be fine for the cabling. But not sure how to get that connected to the gateway in the house due to the distance. I have internet in the cabin - wired and WiFi. Any views would be amazing

  • @Joe-qw6il
    @Joe-qw6il ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I went with the IQ7A and the IQ Combiner 3, paired to Canadian Solar 400W panels. I have them facing south, full Sun exposure, micro inverters are rated at 366 watts I believe, I wonder how high they’ll push my panels

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think the IQ7A's are perfect for that 400 panel.

    • @59jm24
      @59jm24 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The advantage of over power is you receive more charge at the early and later times of the day.

  • @70343123
    @70343123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always learn something in your video's . you should be installing the systems to make a little money or just hire on as a consultant

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      I woukd start offering services like that if there really was a market for it. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @joerosh5615
    @joerosh5615 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, could a small IQ8 system (2-4 panels?) act as a mini grid to keep the IQ7's running in a grid down situation?

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It would be complicated to connect it, if it would even work. I have not researched that option so I am uncertain on that. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

    • @stevencorley6691
      @stevencorley6691 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Enphase would not allow that in an approved design situation the 7s would need to be shed because they would cause grid instability

  • @offgridwanabe
    @offgridwanabe ปีที่แล้ว

    Many Off grid inverters will AC couple to Enphase inverters which will solve the grid down loss of power.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @Kosmonooit
    @Kosmonooit ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How likely is that one panel goes down vs one micro inverter popping and knocking your series mains supply circuit underneath ur panels?

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      It's highly unlikely that a panel or a microinverter goes out. The Enphase microinverters have a 25-year warranty. Even if a panel or microinverter goes out, it will not affect the string/branch. Only that individual panel or microinverter would be affected. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @elliot330
    @elliot330 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When fitting the Iq7 do you need a unit/panel at the end of the chain before the consumer fuse box?

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi, what do you mean by - unit/panel at the end of the chain?

    • @elliot330
      @elliot330 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JustinsProject thanks for the reply. I’m referring to the ac power cables coming from the solar array. Do they connect into a control panel. Or do they just connect to an ac panel. I’m in the uk. So might use different terminology. By ac panel I mean a fuse box.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Welcome from across the pond! No problem, here are three videos that might help answer those questions.
      th-cam.com/video/gKik5ZQC8dc/w-d-xo.html - This one shows exactly how to wire the combiner box to the Main Service Panel
      th-cam.com/video/2Nssg_WAH68/w-d-xo.html - This one covers the components needed to build a system like mine
      th-cam.com/video/qg399PM6DQ8/w-d-xo.html - This one is more of an overview of the entire wiring process
      Thanks for watching and commenting! 👍

  • @tulio3571
    @tulio3571 ปีที่แล้ว

    So to have some back up without battery when there is sun light , i would need the iq8 ,and and a conbiner box ? anything else ? thank you

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not sure IQ8's would back up anything significant just using sunlight power. Might want to research that a little further. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @dcavic6157
    @dcavic6157 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, I would love to get a home battery eventually, but how do these IQ7 inverters work with a home battery?

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I ended up going with Bluetti ESS. It just opened up more flexibility for me since having Enphase. I have a video on that installation. Here is a link to that video: th-cam.com/video/6X4e4pMvn8k/w-d-xo.html

    • @dcavic6157
      @dcavic6157 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JustinsProject Perfect thank you!

  • @prajakt0789
    @prajakt0789 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Which microinverter to use for a bifacial panel giving out more than 700w peak power?

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a high power panel. I don't think microinverters would work best for you. Maybe a string inverter with optimizers. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @offgridutah1
    @offgridutah1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If your building completely off gridd could you use the IQ7's and just tie them into the AC side of an inverter? Im thinking if you had a batterybank that could power a plane jane 2500 watt inverter and a charger hooked to the battery that plugged into an ac outlet wouldnt the IQ7 sync with the inverter and allow it to provide power to the system?

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      From my discussions with Enphase support, these are grid tie only. To commission them, you need a grid tied frequency. I am sure their are hacks, but I'm about positive it would void the warranty. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @carlosarango7210
    @carlosarango7210 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Justin, is it easy to set up an off grid system for a tiny cabin in the woods What is required? One panel, one IQ8 microinverter, one IQ8 Bat for the battery?

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Could be achieved for much less with a hybrid solar inverter and a battery of your choice. When it comes to off-grid only, I recommend hybrid solar inverters. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @igorpiedade
    @igorpiedade 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So, IQ7 can't produce power to my house when the Grid is off? Like in an outage ?
    That's I key point for me. What About adding a Tesla powerwall ? Its will keep the IQ7+ producing power by it's power backup or even with the powerall it will stop producing. If So, IQ8 is the one for me. I live in Florida where we have hurricanes and sometimes outages is a thing here. I really what the ability to keep the house functional on outages. Thank you for all information you've been posting. Very useful to design my own solar system.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You would want to look into the IQ8's. They can provide power during sunlight hours even when the grid is down. IQ7's do not have that technology. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @Anavllama
    @Anavllama ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Getting some IQ8As for my home going to pair this with an IQ Controller 2 and the Combiner unit. I am not getting any batteries because the price doesnt seem to justify the capability. I can get a propane full house generator for the same or lesser cost of two 3KW battery units. Having the IQ controller already, which has a generator input, means I dont need to buy a smart switch or other panels. The IQ8 can provide power during the day if power goes out, bu that is a side benefit at the moment. IF batter technology improves (be it sulpher or salt) and thus becomes significantly cheaper, then I will go hard on battery and the IQ8, or I win the lottery LOL. My installer doesnt install iq7s anymore as they tend to go with the latest tech for forward capability as much as possible. The other reason is the IQ8A gives me the most power output per panel.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome stuff! Congrats 👏 Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

    • @TheVegasViceMan
      @TheVegasViceMan ปีที่แล้ว

      Same situation here, going for the Iq8's and the IQ Controller 2, which contains all that you need. It also replaces your existing transfer switch if you have the Generator, so less parts there.

  • @tulio3571
    @tulio3571 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hi there , what is the name of the controler ? thank you

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, I don't have a controller on my system. I have a video on all the items it took to build my system in my solar playist. There, it might help answer all of your questions. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @bc69006900
    @bc69006900 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can I get a couple of these without anything else other than connecting?

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The will need to be connected to a combiner box and then into your main panel. That's the most basic hookup. If you're connecting them to a battery backup solution, then there will be other components needed.

  • @guocity
    @guocity ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can you comment on power difference between IQ7+ vs IQ7A?

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      Peak power on the +'s is 295w. Peak power on the A's is 366w. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

    • @guocity
      @guocity ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JustinsProject Thanks a lot

  • @LRMConcrete
    @LRMConcrete ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍🏻

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @KptnKMan360
    @KptnKMan360 ปีที่แล้ว

    If anyone have time, I have a couple questions, I'm due to have a new system installed in the coming weeks.
    14x 430w panels, IQ8M microinverters, Envoid Metered, Q Relay Controller, no battery (yet).
    Am I fine with the IQ8M microinverters, or am I missing something by not getting IQ8A?
    I have seen some recommendations that I should have a IQ Gateway, will the Envoid Metered be fine for IQ8?
    I have a Q Relay Controller coming, should I have a Smart Switch or IQ Load Controller for Solar Backup?

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      With 430w panels, I would definitely go with the IQ8A's.

  • @jaredharvey1511
    @jaredharvey1511 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I use other forms of energy to power stuff in the night when the grid is down and the sun is down? Can you use petro powered generator, wind, hydro power, etc as alternative sources of power? I know the IQ8 can have a battery, but can it handle other power sources? I understand it needs controller 2 for the grid disconnect.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      If you have the system and the grid connection protected by a transfer switch, you should be able to connect other sources in time of need. Generators are common backups. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

    • @jaredharvey1511
      @jaredharvey1511 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JustinsProject can I use a standard generator? How do the phases get in sync? If the phases are not in sync things break. If the generator is running at 61Hz instead of the normal mains 60Hz will the micro inverters adjust accordingly.

  • @user-xs6ss4bt2b
    @user-xs6ss4bt2b 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It would be helpful an installation using a backup generator is discussed. It would seem like an IQ7 system would be adequate and more cost effective Our LP-fueld generator is an automatic connect during a power failure and is adequate for extended periods. This use of battery backup is also not necessary., eliminating both the cost, the fire risk associated with lithium batteries and increased insurance costs incurred when a battery backup is installed in the structure..

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @felipelopessniper
    @felipelopessniper ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amigo ele é próprio para o sistema off grid

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @toolate6971
    @toolate6971 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For me, the IQ8 means I will have my backup power during a blackout.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you had a chance to test out the capacity of the system when it is only using the sunlight power backup? How does it does in the winter when the heater is on? Curious because I am thinking of switching to the IQ8 in the future. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @pizann350
    @pizann350 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could a person use IQ-8 inverters to heat water, water heating 220 volt element not hooked to the grid ?

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think even IQ8'S can be used in real off grid applications. With Enphase, as of right now, they require a grid connection of some sort. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

    • @pizann350
      @pizann350 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JustinsProject thanks, I believe your right after I read more, I wish someone would make a inverter that would do this battery less,

  • @Sadowsky46
    @Sadowsky46 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is the price for a kwh in the US? With low price, the system should take very long to return investment

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've heard it ranges from 0.08 per kWh up to 0.38 per kWh. It really just depends on the location. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @Superduty_59
    @Superduty_59 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Justin I am a Caterpillar generator tech. I'm trying to figure out how you could utilize your solar power being produced during a power outage. Is there a way to use an ATS (automatic transfer switch) to provide power to your house during a power outage? You could have your panels connected (after your combiner box) to the normal and the on to the load of the ATS and during an outage your panels would then transfer to the emergency side to then power the load. I may have missed something or whatnot I'm trying different scenarios in my head.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'll be honest, I'm still researching options. I'm thinking about the new battery generators as backups in situations when needed. Can plug freezers, refrigerators, and other necessary appliances in to get us through a blackout. Enphase does make a Switch that can be paired to the system I got but man, it get expensive super fast. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

    • @Scoobydue420
      @Scoobydue420 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m new to this solar stuff. No questions yet. Lol but want to say thanks, you seem like a genuine guy. Thanks for helping so many people.

    • @Scoobydue420
      @Scoobydue420 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you use the iq8+, you don’t need to use the “solar backup”. There are settings that let you use the iq8’s without buying the controller.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Scoobydue420 Awesome, thank you for that information.

    • @billyreynolds807
      @billyreynolds807 ปีที่แล้ว

      You will need to use IQ8 micro inverters and an ats to run off grid. IQ7 will not work.

  • @stevencorley6691
    @stevencorley6691 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Iq 8s also require 2 load controllers and a system controller #2 the first version does not support iq8 sunlight backup
    In my opinion this is not what is being sold to customers they are being led to believe it will back up lots of stuff when in all reality 8 to 12 ckts on the load controller set to normally open with the router circuit left off the load controller

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll look further into this. Thanks for watching and commenting. 👍

  • @art98303
    @art98303 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How do I design a solar system that can start a appliance that requires 22 lock rotor AMPs? Does this have to do with the battery and inverter?

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My first question, is that system going to be grid tied?

    • @art98303
      @art98303 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JustinsProject yes

  • @rickard1802
    @rickard1802 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    these are great if you want to make each solar panel cost twice as much.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It really just depends on the needs of the system owner. Plus, the warranty isn't bad either. 25yrs. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @JFTN123
    @JFTN123 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Now IQ8 is about the same price as IQ7, but I'm not sure it's better because the output power is lower and I don't see any improvement on the spec sheet

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching and commenting! 👍

  • @thestrongestavenger1
    @thestrongestavenger1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    where do you buy IQ7 or IQ7+s for $100? Can you please let me know?

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a video on the cost of the system where I provide all that info. You might find that video very helpful. I got the microinverters off of eBay mostly. I picked up a couple at a time until I got all 27 of them. All were brand new also. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @billyreynolds807
    @billyreynolds807 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So you are misinformed on one thing. The Enphase Ensemble with IQ8 micro inverters can and does run as a whole home backup.
    My system has 58 silfab 390 panels with 58 IQ8 micro inverters. I am running the combiner box 4 along with the smart switch. I also am running 3 IQ10 enphase batteries. This entire system produces 2.7mwh in the fall, and 1.6mwh in the winter on average. I live in west Texas.
    My home is a 3 bedroom 2 bath all electric home with 2000 square feet. I can run completely off grid during the every season with exception to winter. However I push enough power into the grid to cover my electricity bill during this time. Adding one more IQ10 battery should take care of my issue. When the grid goes down the smart switch is only capable of using 56 panels to form the micro grid so during outages I lose the use of two panels. It is not significant. This is a fairly big system but my goal was to be energy independent. Thus far that is exactly what I am. My electric bill was sometimes $600.00 a month. Now its zero, this system cost me $365.00 a month. Its well worth it.

  • @MillyRose539
    @MillyRose539 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not sure what you mean when you say you won't get full power in an outage with the IQ8? Are you saying the IQ8s somehow self-reduce their power output to say 50% or something? I don't understand.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They can only handle the essential loads in sun backup mode. For example, I could not power my electric furance, electric water heater, electric dryer, our hottub and all of the other appliances like normal... while in sun backup mode. However, you could power the essentials. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @andyh8239
    @andyh8239 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone know if you can attach 1200W worth of panel to a single 295W micro / 10kwh battery.
    i.e. sunrise 200W in 200W out (to grid)
    mid morning 600W in 295W out (to grid) 305W (to battery)
    Solar peak 1200W in 295W out (to grid) 895W (to battery)
    Evening 100W in 295W out (to grid from battery)
    Night 0W in 295W out (to grid from batt, until depleated)
    Then repeat.

    • @andyh8239
      @andyh8239 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would like to find a 10KWh batt that has a programmable BMS for this. (i.e. set depletion limit to 25% and charge limit to 85%) and tie it to the panels and micro inverter.
      I realize MPPT would be defeated, but don't care.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      I do not believe you could attach multiple solar panels into one IQ7+ or IQ8+ microinverter. To confirm that I could contact Enphase directly to see if there is an option for you. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

    • @andyh8239
      @andyh8239 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JustinsProject multiple panels would just raise the max current, and the inverter would only draw 295W from thr array.
      Much like a 15W USB charger can be plugged into a wall socket that can deliver 2400W.
      The idea here however is to include a battery to buffer things.
      Like poring water into a restrictive funnel.
      Obviously not made to do this, but with a BMS on the battery / panel of appropriate voltage, it would work.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      @Andy H The max compatible wattage on a 295w IQ+ is 440watts. There are other limitations. Then, it must be grid tied, and that requires the microinverter to be commissioned via the toolkit app via Enphase. There are a lot of hurtles to overcome. Why not just use a small string inverter?

    • @andyh8239
      @andyh8239 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JustinsProject The wattage is just an optimal range. No sense putting 10,000W in front of a 295W inverter. However it makes perfect sense to put a battery in front of it....
      I.e. Attach a 10kwh 48V battery to an iq7+ and it should feed the grid 295W for over 33hrs.
      My interest in this stems from not being re-embursed for backfeeding the grid, but doing so at just 295W means almost all of that will go to base loads...
      if a 300W panel averaged 1kw / day, you could run 3300W worth of panel to a single iq7/10kwh battery.
      Hope that makes sense.

  • @bhbaker220
    @bhbaker220 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are you talk about clipping with micro inverters yet? You don’t look like you have any shading issues.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I have a video on clipping in my solar playlist. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @GWAYGWAY1
    @GWAYGWAY1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why do you have to have a system that stops when THEY shut the mains system on purpose. There is no purpose in being independent that THEY control, your freezers to destroy your food stores when SHTF arrives ,and it will happen.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @DaveLaneNS
    @DaveLaneNS ปีที่แล้ว

    You are mis-representing the price difference between IQ7 and IQ8 - eg. IQ7+ is $164.50, IQ8+ is $189 - both about 300W - not "nearly double" as you say. Source: Enphase direct store.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      I bought a couple of IQ7+'s for $50 each. I averaged around $85 each over the 27 (new never used) of them that I purchased. So, in my experience because I shopped around and was patient... the IQ8's were more than double. At that time, IQ8's were so new that there were no deals to be found on them. Can't always jump on the first price you find, even if it is directly from Enphase. Many distributors sell them cheaper.

  • @mger1979
    @mger1979 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    First i would start from explanation that all microinverters require power to work.
    Now the difference between iq7 and iq8 is that iq7 uses power from utility grid or backup batteries while iq8 can use solar pannel power directly without utility grid or backup batteries.
    That's all you need to say instead of this long long story.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for the feedback

  • @ohary1
    @ohary1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You left out the most important factor. The Federal government will provide you a 30% tax credit. My state also provides a $1000 state tax credit. This is the main reason I went with the newer technology. The government (i.e. all you all) are paying for 1/3 of my equipment, That includes the labor AND the trees I needed to have removed. In total, I'm getting over $10k back into my pocket.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have a couple of other videos on that. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

    • @trudyc1
      @trudyc1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not in the uk. Just no VAT.

  • @Fatpumpumlovah2
    @Fatpumpumlovah2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this system is for those that just wanna erase part of their electricity bill, nothing else.... not a system for a home owner i think but maybe a business.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @N0bull
    @N0bull ปีที่แล้ว

    3:02 “a Million hours of testing”? So they tested it for 114 years?

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. Check out this page from Enphase: www4.enphase.com/en-us/enphase-advantage/reliability - Hope that clears it up. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @mohsinamir3542
    @mohsinamir3542 ปีที่แล้ว

    No clear advantage in case of IQ8. The controller is a single point of failure, just like a single string inverter which costs much much less

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      I am not using a controller. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @aussernllc
    @aussernllc ปีที่แล้ว

    The microinverters in my system have died again. April 3 and again on June 15, 2023. Las Vegas had rain Thursday night through Friday morning. Enphase system shutdown. There is no notification from the system to say there is a problem. Enphase tech support suck.

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for sharing. Hopefully, they get you resolved quickly. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

  • @pijl123
    @pijl123 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Apsystems is the best enphase are scammers stealing watts of Ur panels

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would like to test out APsystems.

    • @pijl123
      @pijl123 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JustinsProject the are the best m

    • @pijl123
      @pijl123 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JustinsProject Iq8mc is Max 330 of Ur using 450 watt panelen
      With apsystems ds3 the Will come 450 watt out

  • @mididoctors
    @mididoctors ปีที่แล้ว

    Unless you got extreme shadow conditions I see little benefit in micro invertors

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  ปีที่แล้ว

      For example in my situation. Lets make a comparison to an 8kw string inverter paired with 27 optimizers. To achieve similar monitoring capabilities. Which do you think is cheaper? I put in 27 microinverters for around $2700. Then you have got to take into consider DC will use metal conduit vs schedule 80 / 40 pvc. PVC pipe and fittings are more affordable than the metal piping and the tools it takes to make the bends. There are other difference to consider that a lot of people tend to leave out. One other benefit is if one inverter fails on 27 I still have 26 producing until I can fix the issue. On a single inverter that shuts down the entire system. There are pros and cons to both systems but it definitely is more than just extreme shading. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

    • @BrianKrahmer
      @BrianKrahmer ปีที่แล้ว

      Simplicity for one. The next house I’m building will have 20 panels and microinverters feeding a rapid shutdown box and straight into the panel.

  • @marcvanheugten9472
    @marcvanheugten9472 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would be nice if you not walk circles, I feel seasick and lost the plot

    • @JustinsProject
      @JustinsProject  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My apologies. I have a tough time remaining in one spot. Thanks for the feedback.