Free school lunches: Students' message to David Seymour | Q+A 2024
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- Students at Auckland's Manurewa High School say the free school lunch programme makes a difference to their learning, as Associate Education Minister David Seymour questions the initiative's value for money.
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What a phenomenal bunch of students, so articulate, so intelligent, so mature
But so hungry yea right
Hahahahh @barrygeary9362
@@barrygeary9362 what informs your opinion? Guessing you work in a school, even a school in South Auckland?
@@barrygeary9362you reflect Rimmer perfectly. Rich, white, apathetic.
@@Kult365 sorry u got that wrong I am part Maori AN FROM a family with six children so know what I am talking about I am 79 years old an seen it all there was no Maori problems ba
David Seeless 🤣
School lunches is a great inititve NZ schools have, how can you say its a waste of money. Especially if they're helping the community and helping students gain NCEA accreditation for future studies. Not all families are so fortunate to be able to send their children with a full packed lunch so having this is a blessing and a relief for many. There is probably so many things that get over looked and parents are seen to not be looking after their kids. Not all families or cultures have sandwiches as a meal. Their has been times my son wants to take noodles to school but there arnt any facilities for the children to use, same with probably otther kids maybe they want to take their left over dinners from home to have for lunch. If you ever went to a construction site how many of the workers would you see that eat sandwiches?
It's like Seymour is dictating his idea of what is that he thinks is happening. He's asked the question about its effectiveness but refuses to then validate it before making sweeping decisions, and also taking jobs.Does not listen to people telling him it works. It's going to be a fun society to be living in with the additional suffering he is obviously happy to create. Are we sure he is human or some AI politician optimising for cost. Oh hang on, ait might be more equitable. Sure some kids and families may not need it but what is the cost of administering that? What is the impact on the kids and families that are pointed out as needing help. He talks a big game about not dividing society yet his actions are and will create exactly that. He is a terrible excuse for a human. Definitely does not hold the values of this nation.
Don't deny it: Daniel Faitaua was all of us when we heard David Seymour's proposal at 1:19 😐
To put into perspective the school I work at (also South Auckland) has hundreds of spare lunches - teachers take them home, students, we give them to parents to take home - thousands of dollars in food each week - we tell them to send less but they dont listen.
My own freezer is packed as is my neighbours and half the street.
We give 100 plus to the local churches food drive each week and we still have spare - it's not all what you see on one TV show.
Sounds like an issue of communication, why isn’t Mr Seymour trying to fix that then? He’s just using any excuse to cut programs.
It’s like saying this road gets clogged every morning so let’s just close and demolish the road.
Also perhaps as the video suggested the issue is that the lunches provided aren’t very good so the students don’t want to eat them.
Also also what school you working at then?
Clevedon is defined as South Auckland. I bet your school is not lower decile.
@@Kult365 jist for perspective were a decile 3 school. But the decile system has nothing to do with the food wastage....like at all....
@@drbenkirk9119 not seeing a Ben Kirk on the Teaching Council register 🤔 Also, Waiuku is not in the same boat at all as Papakura/Manurewa!
@@Kult365 I work in Papatoe FYI....again. where I work has nothing to do with the waste....absolutely nothing.
It’s an incredible and important investment in all schools. If they’re looking for the “benefits” of doing this, look to top tech companies and other corporations that give free breakfast lunch and snacks to their employees. If it’s a financial investments that is proven to improve focus, well being and attendance. Unfortunately Seymour doesn’t have the credentials to understand this
More money in the minister's BONUS PACKAGE @ THE END OF YEAR FOR saving goverment spending 🤷🏽♂️
The coverage of the kitchen starting at 4:10 was really interesting. Seems like the programme lucked out with being able to pick up Steve Smith to run it, especially seeing the feedback at 5:58.
Filimone Vuna You are awesome. David does see less because even though David might think it's a waste of money; when a kid can concentrate because they aren't hungry that kid can actually make a difference in their life and in New Zealand's future. That's so funny about the school (ie not for profit) lunches having so little waste and being eaten, and the for profit contractors having waste because their food is crap. It sounds like this whole free school lunches thing has a for profit contractor issue and not a cost or wast issue to me and David is again seeing less because he's focusing on the for profit contractors that will always fail the students and put profit first. But for the people who think this is a waste of money just remember a hungry kid is angry, upset, pissed off, and out stealing your car. A kid who is fed is at home studying or stealing a car while playing GTA on the computer with their mates. So think of social programs not as hand outs. Think of them as a way to reduce your insurance. Wait is that a free handout?
Seymour's job is to steal candy from babies
Yeah he don't care about it is because he came from a rich family and he went to a rich school that is why
*It intrigues me that so many NZers live in silos and have little to no understanding of how Iife is for other NZers* .
I back this program 100%, when parents have to choose btw paying for rent or buying food the rent will always come first, this program works world wide, the countries that have it have all voiced the benefits. What we need to remember is we need these children to help us when we get older and are no longer able to work, as we now provide for those that have entered retirement today ....
1:30 Good one!!! I he is right, our politicians refuse to see the realities in front of them.
We cut funding to a useful resource here (whether you want to admit it or not) and then we GIVE 41 MILLION DOLLARS AWAY!! WTF is wrong with you, charity starts at home always.
True ... not everyone starts on the same start line
Massey University has studied this program and it gets measurable results. If there is too much waste sort it out. Don't just scrap for David's laziness or EOY bonus. My parents got governement subsidised milk every morning at school in the 60's/70's and the sky didn't fall.
School lunches are provided at schools all over the world because it is recognised how important it is. Should fund it more, not less. Follow the model where it’s most effective.
My first knife fight was at Manurewa High School. The big issue was hungry children stepping out the children with nice sandwiches. Just saying a classmate that has to take a knife to school to get a bit of food is in a bad way. I did slap him around a bit but seriously they were both him and his sidekick were really hungry
I do remember in rural town school back in the day everyone had home made lunches at school, on the odd day when a student forgot their lunch, or weren't provided with any by parents, we all had to open our lunch boxes and were asked to give something out of it to give to them. I was a bit disappointed at times to do that as I was hungry myself....there were no large kids in school those days, and not many occasions where we had to share.
From the party of the children and for the people 🤮🤮 yeah NAH to NACTF
Think of the free lunches as 'a hit of heroine' and I think they can empathise.
David Seymour do some bloody research!!!! EQUITY is what education needs!!! You want academic outcomes in schools, can't achieve that unless our tamariki have kai in the tummy's!!!! And yes as parents we do have responsibility, but surviving in Aotearoa currently is freakin hard!!! And a lot of families are struggling with the cost of living!!! Go focus on something else David!
"Unpopular meals dont get eaten" .....????? wtf if truly hungry, they'd eat what theyre given. Coming from a background where we didnt have 5-star meals served to us very often, we were given one option- Eat what youre given. This has become such a polarizing topic when given a factual insight to these Free lunches. I believe there needs to be some kind of budgeting service to provide caregivers with tools to create budgets that can work for them.
So true
If the very basic home expenditure expenses and are almost to the nett income, a budgeting agency isn't going to help if there is not much spare cash available.
@@chrismckellar9350 it's not about 'spare cash available'. That's the point, spare cash isn't meant for food, food expenses should be incorporated in to the weekly budget. It can be done. I've seen it can be done. The government also offers assistance for families per child which isn't much sure but it helps. This video clearly outlines part of the problem is 'what the kids want' not just what's available and this sentiment no doubt spills over in to the 'right' shoes, clothes, phones that the kids find acceptable... much like the FREE FOOD that they're turning their noses up at. This particular demographic that gets used as the poster-child for the needy (which I am a part of) tends to succumb to pressure to give to the church, give to families overseas and give to fundraising etc.. give me a break
@@pjlav6304 - Do you live a lower social economic suburb? Yes, I do agree there are a lot of pressure to give 20% tithing or more to churches, to families, etc but that is social pressures. Yes there are pressure especially on Gen Z is what they see on social media. peer pressure, etc.
I live in a social economic suburb and see what is happening, with youth and social crime and poverty. I have seen the meals that is provide to primary schools by a contract 'for profit at least cost' commercial school meal provider who is making a quick dollar from the the government and its bad even I wouldn't eat it and it is definitely not like what what is being provided in the Q&A report. I do support the school lunch programme but the food needs at a minimum standard to what is in the report and not below standard by a company who only wants to make a quick dollar from the government.
@@chrismckellar9350 I GOT OUT of a lower socioeconomic suburb with strong contacts still to that community. A lot of it is cultural pressures from my perspective. But I'm not going to accept excuses that the food isn't good enough for at-need-children. No food distributor is going to source out meals that are not safe to eat. That's what matters - that it's edible. Ask any child and they'll tell you; they'd prefer fast food, tasty, high sodium, high sugar foods. A meal is a meal. I find it ironic that most of these kids come from decent homes where respect is a principal that is enforced yet the response to FREE FOOD is not respectful, not to mention the comments they made about a politician that is trying to run the country. Ironically these kids are the ones out of touch it seems
Excellent reporting! Thank you 👏🏻👏🏻
Me: Here’s yours David Seymour?
Him: No Chick-fil-a sauce?
Me: Yeah she looks like you! 🖕🤣
In Europe they have hot school lunches and parents pay according to their income - fair and healthy.
Our kids of today are so entitled! Expect everything to be handed to them! Todays kids have no respect towards teachers, police, parents and even spitting at politicians! We have the worst educated and behavioral kids in the world! Our society needs to change and stop giving hand outs all the time! Our society is failing our kids!
"Back in my day..."
How much does a loaf bread cost and a couple of fillings, I had this as a child and we did this for our kids, it doesn’t matter where you live, time for the parents to step up
bread and a few fillings may be all many kids get. Kids need more than bread to thrive
How about giving parents that say they can’t afford lunch a weekly voucher for school lunch items only. Would teach responsible behaviour and stop being reliant on the govt.
Administratively heavy and loaded with shame for the kids.
Who will dish out this system will each school have to administer the program or will a person who goes around schools of a region doing this work?
Stop relying on the government for roads
Free school lunches but how much are the suppliers taking off taxpayer it is a business still isn’t it ?? We still pay for it . Won’t ever change if keep low wage economy ?
MSN doesn’t seem to understand that this is not just David Seymour’s decision it is backed up by many supporters who are sick of their tax money being wasted. Most people don’t have a problem of the idea of supporting poor students, however we have seen too much wasteful spending and no deliveries from the past 6 years, and tax payers are still paying increasing amount of taxes for the aftermath of those poor decisions. I believe what NZ is missing is a solid system which can measure the performance of the government and hold people accountable to their actions. Not paying tax is a crime, then why wasting tax money is not a crime?
Correct on low wages are the issue. High paid work is what we need in NZ. Mining/ oil and gas- high paid work stopping people going abroad.
@@tc6817 - Mining and petroleum in NZ paying high wages, yeah right. There is not enough of it to make it economical for large global corporations.
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Those two students are more intelligent than David Seymour
The suppliers need to be good, if they making tasteless food then it’s wasted. The schools have millions sitting in their banks which should be used for this and this money should be used somewhere else. Plus invest in a good bullying program. Manurewa high school with or without school lunches, have so many bullying and fights among kids every time. Focus on that first.
If you agree lunches should stay, head over to BHN for more!
Is this why we have to pay for 8 full time nutritionists? Really? Is this why 90% of students actually don;t need a free state lunch? Let us not forget the waste. Largess much?
Keep the lunches it is working
Wasteful so are some empty promises these politicians make to us and the money they should not be paid cos we get one person to do a high portfolios and get very small result
If their parents can’t feed them, then they should not be under their parents care. They should be taken away from their negligent caretakers.
Gross.
@@Kult365 Since when is the role of parents or caretakers, not to make sure their children are well taken care of and well fed? Since when is this the role of the government? Gross? It is gross that we forget who are the individuals who chose to bring life into this world. There is an inherent responsibility there. It is gross to put it onto someone else and place blame for their own shortcoming as parents or caretakers. They come to school to receive an education, it is not a restaurant or a charity organisation to feed the starving. It is a school. And the schools should at least provide good education, which it does not. It should focus its resources on that, not feeding students whose parents or caretakers neglected. Their role is to report these child abuse to the authorities and assist them away from these environment.
@@secretsanctuaire8217 Responsibility of care for citizens lies with the government.
And gross, disgusting actually. Every indicator to children learning is linked to how they feel. I can tell you have no teaching background and speak from a seat of unknowing, using your personalised moralistic standpoint as a crutch to override the data, the facts about learning, and the complete apathy one needs to be so judgemental and punitive toward our future, the children.
That is all.
The students don't need expensive hot meals provided by the taxpayers just sandwiches, fruit and a drink is all that is necessary for their lunch, a warm meat pie is okay
Feeding your children is the responsibility of the parents not of the school or the government !
Why have children of you can’t look after them.
We have no evidence so far that this has helped in any way !
There has always been poor families and always will be, in your day we were sent to school with just fruit, so parents p,ease, use your initiative when it comes to feeding your children, start vege gardens etc which will free you upto buy bread. I fail to see where it's the governments responsibility to step up to the mark
Stupid 🐄
what if they live in an apartment or don't have space for a vege garden and don't have any spare cash to establish one? Being able to have a garden is a privilege not everyone can attain
Nope keep the lunches in Seymore is a tight bastard through and through.
How can 2200 students need to be supplied free food. Why. We’re is the parents responsibility. Time to reduce the dole and allocate it to school lunch for those on the dole and getting free food as well .We don’t want kids starving but we are sick of parents who are irresponsible. Double dipping the public. Maybe parents should not be parents.
The dole is already hard to live on and you want the far right racist govt to cut it!!!!
@@stephenlennon7369the dole is given for food. Why are the children not getting the food. Irresponsible parents. Then we the tax payer pays twice to feed them. Time for parents to be held accountable. Better yet parents get a job and get off the dole.
@@crazykiwican You need to spend some time in their lives, you have no clue what you are talking about.
Many of these children's parents are working poor with some living in cars while working. Like many NZers can't afford to rent, utilities and food. In two parent families, both parents are working at least two jobs each. Not everyone is on the dole.
We donate 2nds vegetables, fruit and meat towards this programme. We see it as worthwhile. You are right, a few parents spoil it for others, not all.
@crazykiwican sounds to me like you're the one who shouldn't be a parent with that attitude, you only raise them to be like you. You have no clue what these people do or whether they are on a benefit. Keep you're ancient views to yourself.
😂 how do you measure success with 'free lunches'. The cost is socialised. It creates culture of intrinsic worth. Bad messaging.
Massey University just did it.. Called science
@@kronicpain7357 explain more. Political interference in science.
Time to stop spending your money at the pokies and make your kids lunch
Ignorant
A typical neoliberal libertarian comment.
Truth hurts
@chocolatepugmsp2796 you have no idea.
@Double.S.02 yeah let's just keep flogging the tax payer. It's the parents responsibility to provide for there kids. Not yhe tax payer
Most high school students don't require school lunches theres alot of obesity allready okay fo primary children they need it but not teenagers
Because many eat cheap food and heaps of white bread
Have you watched this video
The meals are super nutritious, and they are supplementing the ingredients from their own school vegetable garden
It's so important that the students receive healthy nutritious 5+ a day meals
@@MaxSweet1 - As they are cheap. with the end result increase cost of medical services latter on.
@@Mistyfrequencies275 that's lunch and only been in for a short time.
@@Mistyfrequencies275 yes an they get that at home most nights
bottom feeders
Time to stop spending money on the pokies and make your kids lunch
That's for real
And you think that's where it goes WOWW you just as fu.ked as the rest of us 😂
Agree that’s what those parents do , double dipping
Actually it's the Morgage and rent
No proof man just someone's opinion really you would never know unless you doing it no proof just stats created from thin air