The (Expected) FAILURE of Kliff Kingsbury.
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- The Arizona Cardinals had a very busy Black Monday. The Cardinals fired Kliff Kingsbury after four seasons and just months after signing him to a contract extension through 2027. The Cardinals had a losing record under Kliff and only made the playoffs once. It wasn’t working. That wasn’t the only change in Arizona. General manager Steve Kiem decided to step away from his position to focus on his health.
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Kliff Kingsbury FIRED by the Arizona Cardinals… 0:00
Kliff Kingsbury Was A GOOD College QB, But Not NFL 1:42
Kliff Kingsbury’s Confusing And Disappointing Coaching Career 2:57
DeAndre Hopkins Likely To Be TRADED This Offseason 4:47
Kyler Murray Has Underperformed. 5:49
I Think Kliff Kingsbury Is Good, But Not As A Head Coach 6:50
#KliffKingsbury #Cardinals #NFL - กีฬา
People don't really talk about how Steve Keim never got any draft class quite right. Most players never went beyond their rookie contract.
Hilariously he got the QB right the second time (with flaws) but he whiffed miserably in talent/depth in key areas like the trenches. No surprise whenever I saw their O-line face against Donald and the Rams in key games, the latter would win out late in the game. The two LBs he took for traits high in the first round (SImmons at 8, Collins at 16) aren't exactly game changers like a Micah Parsons whose a beast at 12th. The WRs he took like Moore, Isabella and others were under utilized. Worse were the TEs which for some reason he kept collecting but were never as valuable in the offense. Then the FAs he signed were kind patch jobs to long term problems especially on defense. Old JJ Watt was still trying to carry a lackluster D-line.
Facts. His skill is with free agents
@@t4d0W he drafted 1 offensive lineman in the first round and that was mega bust Jonathan Cooper. As for his linebacker picks, Reddick, Simmons, and Collins were his only decent picks. Simmons and Collins were the only decent defenders save for Budda Baker and Jalen Thompson who are worth anything. Allen has some promise.
@@Rockhound6165 Yeah I believe Arizona Sports has a round up of the picks he had (I'm looking at the moment but I can't confirm if they reached past 2020). Didn't he also draft DJ Humphries at 24th overall in 2016? He also drafted Tyrann Mathieu 2013. Lot of misses or to be kind "camp bodies" im seeing in the WR/RB department outside of Johnson.
@@Gungho73 Keim did well with later picks. Honeybadger in the 3rd round was a steal. So was David Johnson. Budda Baker was a 2nd round pick and Zach Allen, who's showing promise, was a 3rd rounder. But to look at all the picks he had in 10 drafts and only find a handful that are worth something means he stinks at his job. Oh, did I mention he TRADED UP for Josh Rosen?
Could see Kliff being the Jets OC. Or back to college as an OC
The Patriots identified him as an OC candidate too
@@romiarkan450 That's actually a perfect fit. He was originally drafted by the Pats, and was a back up for a few seasons. He knows Bellichick and that organization. If he cant win there he cant win in this league.
@@metpach cant win as a college coach either 35-40 record
Not with that kind of contract. Dude fleeced the cardinals!
what about the Cardinals offense the last 4 years says he is even a good offensive coordinator? His offenses routinely were figured out by the opposing defense and he failed to make any adjustments, hence the bad record in 2nd halves of games and 2nd halves of seasons. I would steer clear of him. If he coaches again let him prove himself at college.
After watching Hard Knocks I warmed to Kliff Kingsbury, came across as a real down to earth dude
unfortunately watching hard knocks kinda showed that he was not a very energetic and motivational coach
It doesn’t matter if he’s a terrible coach
Horrible leader of men. But professional screen caller.
He’s getting the Saban rehab lol. OC for 2 years and back being a head coach
Except Saban is an actually good coach lol.
@@dasdas7752 No I meant. He's going to join Saban's staff for 2 years and get another job like the previous coordinators have been able to do.
Kliff lost the moment that Kyler talked to him like he was a lil b. You have to stand your ground, you can’t let people talk to you like that
Yea hes really too chill mode to work with kyler, diff ppl click with diff ppl
No, Kliff lost the moment their owner gave Kyler all the power with that nonsensical contract he didn’t deserve.
@@mrpowers4667 Noo.. kliff lost the moment when he never adjusted to the defense. especially half way in the season
@@mrpowers4667 the problem in Arizona is Kyler and the worst part Arizona is stuck with a QB that thinks everything revolves around him. For the organization to highlight the mandate of independent study hours tells a lot about the person. He doesn’t not have the same work ethic as other QBs. I would take mayfield any day. Believe me being a fast QB can only get you far in the NFL. Teams adjust and figure players out.
@@juliohernandez3668 K1 is like 3-0 against mayfield already wth
When your most recognized accolade is “coaching Patrick Mahommes in college”(with a losing record), expectations should’ve been low!
They put up points but that defense was horrendous
as a cardinals fan its extremely frustrating we wasted all this talent :(
I was surprised they brought him back after that playoff meltdown last year. Maybe they chalked it up as growing pains.
When the offensive line sucks every year not gonna win much need to invest in offensive line instead of signing injury prone veteran lineman
Look, you got conned by a snake oil salesman hired by a failson of a failson. It sucks, yes. However, this is very on-brand for the franchise, is it not?
Kinda used to it we wasted the goats prime
You should be used to it as a cardinals fan. That's all they've done is waste high end talent
Trying to bring that college style thing to the pros just isn't gonna work
Naw it works cliff sucks
Pete Caroll is the only college coach I can think of that did good in NFL after leaving college but technically he coached in the NFL before he coached at USC
Pretty sure it does work. Kliff just sucks.
@@billblaski9523 Jim harbaugh???
Andy Reid, in part, pioneered the offenses that dominate college. One of the reasons Mahomes transitioned so well into the pros is bc the offense he played in at Texas Tech owed so much to Reid.
The reality is that Kiff has been failing his way upwards for over a decade. He may be an offensive genius or whatever but he's not a leader of men and he's a good candidate to build a successful program or organization
Those of you wanting Kingsbury as your OC obviously never watched a Cardinals game.
This all started last year in the WILDCARD game vs Rams. Things were never the same after that.
Actually started Oct 31, 2021 vs Green Bay, the pass to an oblivious AC Greene at the end, Kyler went down for weeks on tgat pkay too. I think they have only won 5 or 6 games in the last year and a half, and only one at home since.
@@evankealthat game not only ended our winning streak of 7 games, it also injured kyler, Hopkins, and Jj watt. That was a game that I’ll probably never forget due to everything that came after it
Nah bro there down fall started when AJ Green did not turn around to get the ball when they played against crackhead Aaron Rogers.
He didn't deserve that Cardinals job in the first place.
For real, how in the world do you even get into the NFL without a winning record as a head coach flat out embarassing. He shouldve been hired as a QB coach if anything, I think hed be good at that
@@dasdas7752 White- ✅️right.
I tend to agree with your points overall, but honestly he wasn't the worst head coach. He just was outmatched especially as the 2nd half of the seasons hit and teams noticed trends in his attack. I think I'm probably going to be a bit kinder then most of your comments on the subject, but his Arizona teams never admittedly got significantly better through the draft. Moves like free agency helped but this was always a team riding hard on a couple talents both sides of the ball. Their loss against the Rams in the playoffs, where Kyler looked very out-matched and overwhelmed, I felt was a harbinger of the next season. I do think Kliff deserves the responsibility for why those teams tended to falter later in the season as it showed an inability to adjust so don't get me wrong, but I do think they could've gotten more assistance for his regime.
Agreed his lack of adjustment and in-game awareness really cost the cardinals down the stretch. Had some creative offensive play calling in the beginning but later seasons turned weirdly conservative. I think he was trying to avoid being a full blown college offense but never quite combined his experience with the pro game.
@@jonathancarrillo7739 You do wonder if that becomes something we hear about later like with Dennis Erickson in Seattle. Majority reason Erickson got the job he did there was due to his offensive innovation in college; he was profusely under the impression those couldn't work in the pros. So he just simply never tried things like sweeps with Galloway because he was trying to meet the NFL standard.
A lot of coaches in NFL history, many far worse performing then Kingsbury, get intimidated by the league in that fashion. Wouldn't shock me me if that's partialy the case here.
He wasnt the worst but he was still a trash head coach. Didnt even have a winning record as a college head coach and has the worst playcalling ive ever seen. Maybe he could be the QB coach since hes coached some good QBs at Texas Tech. but thats all I see him being
You have not watched the cardinals like I have. He was incredibly stupid like for instance your in the red zone you have a corner pressing man 1 on 1 with dhop who does Kliff instruct Murray to throw to? Robbie Anderson. I can recount multiple scenarios where this happened and that is only the tip of the ice berg
Bro I agree but Kliff does have a big majority of this fault because he could of reached out and get a offensive of coordinator but instead his ego got in the way and wanted to do it all. There is nothing wrong with asking for help and he could of gotten it but he never asked for it.
Kliff was born to always be the brides maid but never the bride, in other words he was always a good Offensive of Coordinator but not a coach he was a good back up QB but not the actual QB.
I was so baffled when Kliff got extended
It’s really funny to me how Steve wilks the guy the cardinals fired after one year to bring in kingsbury ended up winning more games as an interim with the panthers then kingsbury won this season
How many games did Wilks win with the Cardinals again? Each season is different, each team is different, each week is different. You’re comparing apples to oranges. Totally different situations with endless factors that determine the direction of a season.
@@mrpowers4667 still they were a rebuilding team and decided to complete restart and dumped Wilks and Rosen for Murray and Kingsbury. They got Kingsbury for Murray and Murray for Kingsbury. This was suppose to be a match made in heaven but constantly underachieved. Kingsbury was a mediocre coach and Murray apparently just doesn’t have a winning mentality and is too fragile
When he was coaching at Texas Tech ESPN ran a narrative about him being good looking even though he underachieved. He is the definition of "failing up" or how people well people treat you when they think you're attractive.
I mean also talks about the lack of 'process' of NFL owners to hire potential coach/CEOs to run their on field product. I mean not only the Cardinals owner chose Keim as the GM (who sucks in his own way) but was also okay with the process of hiring Kliff. Talk about a feast or famine scenario.
It's still disgusting he got this job. Bidwill ain't much better then his dad.
I still want to know if there's any further information about "The Mexico Incident" where they fired a guy for "getting too handsy" with a woman down there, but then rumors circulated maybe it wasn't that guy but actually the GM who "looks similar" (all fat white neck beards look alike right?) and the GM took "time off for ... reasons ... " now the Cardinals are cleaning house completely? Seems oddly coincidental considering they did just extend Kingsbury.
Damn did not know this
GM did have the extreme DUI in his past so has history of not handling his alcohol
Young coach who happens to be a year or so younger than Brady 😳👀
I think hiring him was an interesting gamble, but the collapse last year should have resulted in his dismissal, not a contract extension. That was the big mistake by the Cardinals. And I would agree he'll probably step into an OC role and do really well.
This mentality is what’s wrong with the NFL firing and hiring practices. How does anyone expect any sort of culture or progress to be established if you keep firing a head coach every year or two? Also, each season with Kingsbury showed progress. Excluding this year, which was way beyond Kliff’s control.
You brought up last year: THEY MADE THE PLAYOFFS. I guess Arizona was a Super Bowl-winning dynasty prior to Kliff’s arrival, and I just missed it
Kliff has a great offensive mind, had the NFL in question for 3-4 years. But never had the complete package as a head coach. But he will make a great offensive coordinator.
I love it that the cardinals were so bad this season that everyone seems to have forgotten them
Bro went to Thailand he gone forever
Raiders fan here. Looking at this and im pretty excited that the raiders might make him the new OC
Yessir
Bet Thailand wasn’t in your bingo card 😂
I’ll tell you no Cardinals fans are “surprised” that Steve Keim was fired. He was very hit and miss as a GM and couldn’t draft to save his life.
Sure he made some great trades for Deandre Hopkins & Chandler Jones, but his free agent signings were always very questionable. Add to that a bad draft picks and the result is a very mediocre team that has only made the playoffs in 2015 & 2021
Well said. He tried to bolster the team with “splash” trades and talent but neglected the o-line and d-line for several years
The Bidwell family has, for decades, in my opinion and to the best of my memory, done it’s best to hamper, hamstring, sandbag and prevent the Cardinals from being consistent winners.
As a cardinals fan, I'm so glad that we got rid of him. Not only did he ruin us, but he also ruined Caleb Williams' hype train.
With Bears fans as parents, I really hope the bears don't make him their OC. They hated Getsy, but they'd hate Kliff more.
He would make a good QB coach, Max.
this guy never has to work another day in his life. why do any of you think he's gonna go run a college team or be an oc? if anything, we'll see him on tv
He could be a good QB coach tbh but nothing more
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THE GUY JUST BOOKED A ONE WAY TO THAILAND XD
Ian Rappaport told McAfee, "We don't say 'Black Monday' anymore . . . " Because, ya' know, the Stanford Censored Words List.
The cardinals are the losers here, kliff is cashing in.
Ryan Gosling in the Cliff Kingsbury story 😏
I thinks it a cover up something the head coach and GM did shady
As a Bears fan, I hope we skip on Hopkins. The last thing you want to do is hamstring a rebuild with a bloated veteran contract for a guy who will be over the hill by the time we are good enough to compete for a Super Bowl.
His career progression is actually pretty good. He’ll get some coordinator job soon
He failed upward
With Bieniemy possibly getting a HC job this offseason, Im kind of down with Kingsbury coming to KC and reuniting with Mahomes... KC does have Nagy back there so he could possibly take the roll though.
Lol I was just looking at ur channel
that GM look like thanos wtf
Rest in peace, Pirate.
The Hard Knocks season was certainly entertaining.
Wow another dude who failed upward, what's wrong w/ society
What makes you think Cliff would be any good at being an offensive coordinator?
Vince Lombardi would lose with a Munchkin Quarterback who won't study Game Film
Kliff was a average head coach who’s team played as well as their injuries allowed them to the failure of this team is 100% keim and his unhealthy love for the line backer position 3 middle linebackers in the first round of 2017 2020 and 2021 is insane
Cliff had help losing his job. He should have got rid of kyler Murray. Murray made him look bad but Cliff hung on to him and even got him an extention with a big cash bonus. It wasn't all Cliff. Murray will show his true color's nomatter what coach they get.
Surprised Kingsbury lasted this long .
ROFL damn was going to USC... Then jump to the NFL and boom now fired
The fact that at any point in time Manziel and Tebow were the best players at the college level shows what a joke college football is.
It shows you have zero idea of play style and schemes.
What about DHOP to the Giants
I rooted for Kliff only because I don’t like any of these people that hated on him.
Please kliff, we'll pay you whatever you want, just save us from matt patricia
Cardinals front office is like the Texans. A joke.
He was QB coach as USC. And forget the current OC spot, he is gonna go bath in SEA box
Anyone who can even call a play would be a nice upgrade. Go.... Cards.... 👍
I feel like klif is the problem with kyler I feel like kyler murray and Russ are similar not only in play styles but in how much the coach makes a difference if he has a bad coach he can’t perform so when the cards get another coach hopefully kyler can become what the cards wanted him too be
smart man
He shouldn’t of ever been the coach. He had a losing record in college and wasn’t impressive as a head coach in college. Yet somehow he leap frogs over all other candidates somehow. He never DESERVED the job in the first place
Kliff will fail up to NFL commissioner or a governor of a small inconsequential state. Also he will win the Nobel prize for potential
He is still going to get paid. If you ask me he doesn't give damn.
Furstus
Keim was mid. But in the nfl, mid isn’t good enough (same with Kliff)
I think Kingsbury is gonna hang out in Thailand with his model GF and not think about the NFL for a while.
And get paid. $7.5million/year until 2027.
If washington could get him as OC I wouldn't be mad.
No. I want him to be OC for my Panthers.
Well ya he’s a college coach
I want him for oc
QUEENSBURY!!!!
And now the Chargers have an open OC spot
Kliff Kingsbury has worked well with qbs, so does that mean that he could be a qbs coach? Just throwing it out there.
The Rams could prolly rebuild him
Not trying sound condescending but thsi is probably good for the Cardinals they need new ideas
With the exception of this season spiraling wildly out of Kliff’s control, how is his tenure with Arizona dubbed a “failure?” Each season showed clear progress, which included the Cardinals first playoff appearance since what, 2015? Not to mention, they earned HISTORIC ROAD WINS against their division rivals in what was easily the toughest division in the NFL in 2021.
Please tell me what head coach could have succeeded in Arizona this season considering everything that was thrown at Kliff? This season was lost before it even got started. With Hopkins out, Kyler Murray’s ridiculous contract, to an eventual depleted roster, no depth of talent, and just all around bad luck.
And yet, Kliff found a way to prepare three different backup QB’s so they could actually be somewhat competitive. David Blough was rolling better than Murray was all season-and he literally started a week after getting signed to the team. What’s more telling is that his players played their hearts out to the end.
So, if you want to call this season a failure, then I’d completely agree. But it’s not a failure because of Kliff. This is a pretty popular narrative to go after him because a) he’s the head coach, and it comes with the territory, but mostly it’s b) he’s a good-looking dude that everyone thinks reeks of privilege. While the latter may be somewhat true in the NFL’s hiring practices, he definitely pours every ounce of sweat and energy he has into his job. Say what you will about his coaching and his in-game decisions, but this guy works harder than most and there is zero question that he gave it his all.
In the meantime, I’ll just sit back and watch Kyler Murray’s ego take over the franchise as he gets a carousel of coaches fired and teammates traded. Arizona is not a winning franchise, and they never will be as long as their current owner is running the table.
“Watch Murray’s ego take over the franchise” and then you proceeded to say “Arizona is not a winning franchise” which one is it?? The year before Kyler got drafted, they went 3-13 with some of the worst offensive statistics of all time. I really don’t think Kyler is affecting the least successful nfl organization of all time that poorly. If anything, he’s done more good than bad
Kingsbury is in Thailand enjoying his drinks and making out with ladyboys
You judge Kingsbury as a failure due to the Cardinals' record and his college record. He coached at a bottom Big 12 team. Nobody has had a good record at Texas Tech. Then he is asked to win at Arizona where a 5'8" tall quarterback earns 23% of the team's salary cap. In the past 46 years, only 7% of Cardinals coaches had a winning record (Arians). 93% had a losing record. Kingsbury is not the problem. If I owned an NFL team, he could coach for me.
Watching this as a raider fan for some copium 🤣
A few moments leter 😂🤣😅 👍
Honestly had no idea how trash Kingsbury was until this in-depth analysis. Coming from a fan of football but not a fanatic
All that wasted talent
I would definitely take him in Washington
No, not at all.
@@kbholla Depending on our QB situation, I think he could be decent in the OC role.
Lol no. Do you watch the Cardinals play? Kliff sucks at playcalling. All he does is call stupid screen plays and short passes. Almost every time. The bum didn't even have a winning record in college and somehow got hired in the NFL! How in the world did that even happen???
We need Snyder gone before anything
@@dasdas7752 as a Cardinals fan you're 100% on point
The most failingest upwardest dude ever
It’s plain and simple. The owner should be fired - he made a terrible hire and should take complete responsibility. Cliff seemed to be in over his ski’s and unable to inspire the team. He is a very good QB coach and could eventually be a good head coach with more experience and proof. I think he did his best but just wasn’t suited for the role at this point. The owner… he needs to publicly say that he doesn’t know how to hire. This team needs a strong experienced leader. If they stay healthy - within 2 years could compete for a run at a superbowl
The "owner" should be fired 😆🤣
Only the arizona cardinals
If your the cardinals you should probably hire the 49ers DC to just get back to at least mediocrity
They have to move on from belichick
Cliff Kingsbury needs to find the next Patrick Mahomes, could take 2 years.
Should be cheifs qb coach
New Bama OC
Baker was not kliffs quarterback
🐣
As a homer Cards fan I was livid when they hired Kingsbury and drafted Murray. I think I yelled at the tv both times. We need to get rid of them both and solidify our lines instead of recycling college gimmicks.
College HC
Steelers please drop Matt Canada and hire this man
Kliff would be worse than Canada, sorry to say
@@dasdas7752 Kliff is a good offensive coach he's just not a head coach
@@isaacdunaway7149 He could be a good QB coach maybe
Cryler just wants to play CoD.
Truth kyler didn’t help matters
He’s a oc not hc
I like how people blame kyler a lot (yes he is at some fault) but people ignore our trash o line and all the injuries that plagued this season
Yeah having a bunch of injury prone o-liners and guys with one foot in retirement was dumb. Steve Keim was a really bad GM. I know he got lucky with D-hop trade but thats about it.
Seriously that oline is different every week and sometimes every quarter with how often oline are hurt and forced to shift around
I think real cardinals fans know Kyler isn’t the problem
@@johndoyle3232 i agree kyler isnt the main problem. But I do think he needs to step up as a leader.
@@jonathancarrillo7739 absolutely, I agree 100%. I think next year with a new HC and GM will be very telling about his future with the Cards
I thought Kliff was okay. In his 2ed, 3rd, and even this year Kylers health screwed him over. Really the whole teams health this year sucked. Sure he may of been a little to aggressive on 4th but statistically that’s what you should do. Kyler also didn’t look to good this year and I think Kliff had nothing to do with it. The o line sucked and his best wide out was out. As for Kliffs teams at tech I mean not many people win at Texas tech.
Lol Kliff sucks dont even. Head coaches have a huge effect on the QB just ask Trevor Lawrence. Also his playcalling was garbage 9/10 times it was a screen or short pass.
It’s a coaches job to win.
Their supposed to find a way
He called terrible time outs that ruined games, he made check downs on 4th downs and constantly made college level plays not utilizing the team around him on simple run run check down playstyle that was read every game. He forced Az's hand to not get a offensive coordinator and he constantly got lost on the clock, he was listed as being the top 10 statistacally worst head coaches as an overall career with a team due to his incompetence. We miraculously won games and blew winnable ones all year on terrible playcalling. Don't even say it was health this year when last season we had a healthy squad that collapsed in on itself as kliff didn't re adjust his playbook.
I believe Brian Flores is our best option he has experience. We won’t break bank or draft capital signing him and he can def unlock the potential of our stars on defense while singing offensive playmakers and letting them cook.
First
Fields is a young beast🔥🐻
as a cardinals fan, I never wanted him in the first place and was extremely happy he got booted, hopefully bidwell will hire a good coach and gm...but I don't have much hope