Tatis got $340M in 2021. Toronto should've locked Vlad Jr. down a long time ago. Now price has gone up and they are trying to get him at the same rate Nando got for signing early. They really misplayed that one.
The Soto deal messed up the salary dynamic everywhere. If Vlad thinks he’s worth anywhere near those numbers, the Jays need to trade him. Time for a rebuild in a more reasonable environment. Get pitching, and build the farm system. We’re done chasing for the playoffs for now.
@@DIEHARD1010 ~ No love for Ohtani either. In fact he started this farse really. Somehow it should be illegal to defer your payment and Buy a championship. Eventually, it will feel cheap because of the way it’s playing itself out. It’s deferring is fair, than collusion should be as well.
Vlad makes too many errors , DH or first base, not a leader just a man child not worth the big bucks. Soto had a great world series proven talent. Agree trade Vlad and Bo get some young players
@@christopherblack4520 Unfortunately, I agree Vlad neither has the same track record, nor the character to setup when needed. History suggests he’s not good under pressure. Unless he grows up fast, I’d trade him mid season.
Valdimir Guerrero Jr. had enough with the losing franchise team like the Toronto Blue Jays. It's probably why he turned down the contract offer this season to go in FA. 🤣 Nobody wants to go to Canada.
Jays have to give Vladdy whatever he wants at this point. They have nothing in the farm system. Springer and Bichette are either on the move or on the decline. Yikes, time to rebuild.
Might need some pitching too. Right now, you're in desperate need in the pen and rotation. Clay Holmes as a starter is a bad idea that almost certainly doesn't work.
Jays front office has no clue what they are doing. They waitied too long to pay Vladdy now this time next yr he walking & Jays losing him for nothing!! Shapiro & Atkins for the Jays are Beavis & Butthead. They have been in power for ten years & have done nothing except rebuild the stadium.🏟 What good is an upgraded stadium that they made now into a pitchers park before the upgrades it was a homerun stadium. The changes they made to the outfield made the team worse bc they have slap hitters outside of Vladdy. Ross Atkins is the worst GM in all of MLB!!
I will always be a blue Jays fan but I will not support my team while the clown show if Atkins and Schapiro are driving the bus. Those 2 morons have destroyed the team, the teams future and the city's love of the Jays
Once Vlad walks I am done watching them. He's the only thing that's kept me watching them last 4-5 years and been watching every season since 2013. I do not want another Jays team where a player like Smoak was their best hitter and Eric Sougaurd. Man that was awful
Time to replace the management in the Toronto Office. We need guy who want to buy like they did in 92 93. Other teams are building. The Jays are just loosing opportunity after opportunity. The market need to be reexamined. If it is to be competitive then all teams deserve an equal try at the star player who shouldn't be able to be bought by highest bidder. Build brands let player decide where or who they want to play for based on that rather then dollars. Time for change.
It's rough when Cohen overpays for Soto and Vladdy sees those dollaz. Everyone's gonna want to test free agency. Dunno who wants to play in Toronto anyway.
Soto and the Mets just screwed the market. Now anybody that doesn't have 5 tools is going to get 400 mil of they produce 80% of Juan Sotos productivity
Vladdy has said out loud and publicly, multiple times that he loves Toronto, loves playing there, and wants to spend his career there. Even if he doesn’t wanna join the Mets he knows cohen will bid highly for him, maybe just to drive the jays price up. He should be getting north of 400M
I think what your going to see is the balls being juiced to have more premium hitters. The game lacks deep lineups. The hitters are constantly challenged with seemingly every pitcher throwing over 97mph. 10 years ago, that was unheard of.
As a Bluejay fan, I’m going to miss Vladi after this season but may find myself watching a lot of Mets games once he signs there that is for sure happening
Incorrect. The worse Jays nightmare has been here for years. The President, the GM and the manager. Why does the owner...Rogers put up with such incompetence?
The Angels should make him an offer he can’t refuse. Vlad can help out Trout and the Angels go to the playoffs. Become an Angels legend like his father before him.
The difference in intelligence between the Jays and the Astros is enormous. The Astros trading Tucker for some really nice pieces that will keep them competitive going forward. While the Jays are going to go all the way to free agency and lose Vlad for nothing OR be stuck with a crippling 600 million overpay. It really shows how a team from a midmarket can easily be competitive as long as they have the right people in place. The Astros do the jays do not
Stop it. Houston a midmarket? That's absurd. They are a huge market. The only ones bigger in America are LA, NY and Chicago. Toronto is really not much more populated than Houston.
Offensive is more valuable than defense. Derek Jeter was the worse defensive short stop at multiple times where he still won golden gloves. I don’t agree with the idea they deserved it, but that’s just how the game is played.
Jeter was on my the worst to nerds who look back years later using the flawed defensive metrics people use. People who watched him know that,while he may nog have been a great defender because his range wasn't great, he was FAR from bad at short. Bad defenders make errors, miss the easy plays, they don't position themselves well or get good reads. Derek was great in these areas. And as heads up.a defender as I've ever seen. The list of players who make the flip play is probably just him. When else have you ever seen the shortstop in the perfect spot by the first baseline to cutoff an overthrow? How many shortstops you see go diving face first into the seats because their concern was catching the ball, not their safety? How many bad defensive players have the iconic plays Jeter has made?
Jeter was only the worst to nerds who look back years later using the flawed defensive metrics people use. People who watched him know that, while he may not have been a great defender because his range wasn't great, he was FAR from bad at short. Bad defenders make errors, miss the easy plays, they don't position themselves well or get good reads. Derek was great in these areas. And as heads up.a defender as I've ever seen. The list of players who make the flip play is probably just him. When else have you ever seen the shortstop in the perfect spot by the first baseline to cutoff an overthrow? How many shortstops you see go diving face first into the seats because their concern was catching the ball, not their safety? How many bad defensive players have the iconic plays Jeter has made?
Vlad getting thrown out trying to make a single into a double, or taking too much of a lead and not even trying to get back, hitting into too many double plays, swinging at bad pitchers, not swinging at pitches down the middles, way over rated.
I’ve been a Jays fan since they entered the league. Unfortunately I don’t see a bright future for the team. Is there a relocation in the coming years ? If they can’t sign players to keep the team competitive fans will stop going to the stadium.
10 yrs 400 mil. Could just be a dh 2nd half of contract. Who needs a power right hand bat? Do they have money? Answer yes to both of these, go look at Vladimir
If the bluejays trade vlad to the mets for the mers top 5 prospects the blue jays would get some much more talent and that helps the mets to win in 2025 and the bluejays would have a brighter future and not waste vlads talent bluejays would luis acuna jr, brett batty, ronnie Mauricio, jett williams ,and McNeil would be way better deal for bluejays in the long term. Plus mets have the money to offer a big contrat to vlad and who doesnt want to play for the mets right now .
lol teams need to put their foot down, and refuse to sign these people for absurd money just cause they declined once. Shohei starting to look like a steal at this rate
If I'm being honest, if Vladdy Jr. declined the Blue Jays' offer, I hope that the Angels make a play for him. But, as Dodgers fan, would be hilarious if we sign him lol
@jeffrey_solis90 im not bad at the dodgers at all. I just think it will be an issue down the road. For those who think oh 10 years from now 700 million will seem like nothing lol. Pretty sure it will still be something.
Let the games begin haha 😆 that's why this Soto deal is horrible for baseball. Ridiculous amount of salaries, the other side of that coin will be teams like that Astros trading away elite players to get something in return because they àre not about to break the bank for one player
Wrong blue team…that was all dodgers with 700 million deferred and Japan as their farm team. Mets gotta keep pace as cohen said he would recreate the east coast dodgers
That's just nonsense. You have a bad rotation, meh bullpen. And Classy really isn't that dude. He is a good, even very good player. But you're acting like he's some great player who would guarantee something for the Mets. The Mets team right now, if you added Vlad, would be the third place team in the NL East. Unless the Braves and Phillies had serious injuries. You guys just don't have the pitching.
Love how you think 1 signing makes everyone now a met lmao focus on 25 before you make these ridiculous assumptions. Maybe think of Verlander and Schertzer I bet you thought they would win it all lmao 🤣
As a Jays fan, I'm numb to pain at this point.
Tatis got $340M in 2021. Toronto should've locked Vlad Jr. down a long time ago. Now price has gone up and they are trying to get him at the same rate Nando got for signing early. They really misplayed that one.
If Vlad has that much value trade him for talent sick of watching all those errors and his dense look. He will not get away with it on any other team.
Toronto management sucks. Nothing more to say.
Soto and Vladdy are friends since childhood.
@@marcoslaureano5562 Warms the heart.
The Soto deal messed up the salary dynamic everywhere. If Vlad thinks he’s worth anywhere near those numbers, the Jays need to trade him. Time for a rebuild in a more reasonable environment. Get pitching, and build the farm system. We’re done chasing for the playoffs for now.
Am happy for soto..it show cohen flexing his money in the league..it good for teams to spend to be a contender
Why don’t you hate on the dodgers who aren’t even paying ohtanis salary and are able to stack up players, at least the Mets are paying the tax
@@DIEHARD1010 ~ No love for Ohtani either. In fact he started this farse really. Somehow it should be illegal to defer your payment and Buy a championship. Eventually, it will feel cheap because of the way it’s playing itself out.
It’s deferring is fair, than collusion should be as well.
Vlad makes too many errors , DH or first base, not a leader just a man child not worth the big bucks.
Soto had a great world series proven talent.
Agree trade Vlad and Bo get some young players
@@christopherblack4520 Unfortunately, I agree Vlad neither has the same track record, nor the character to setup when needed. History suggests he’s not good under pressure. Unless he grows up fast, I’d trade him mid season.
Valdimir Guerrero Jr. had enough with the losing franchise team like the Toronto Blue Jays. It's probably why he turned down the contract offer this season to go in FA. 🤣 Nobody wants to go to Canada.
His father told him he is the best player in the world so he wants the largest contract.
Jays have to give Vladdy whatever he wants at this point. They have nothing in the farm system. Springer and Bichette are either on the move or on the decline. Yikes, time to rebuild.
Welcome to the Mets, Vlad..
It probably would depend on what happens with the Mets 1st situation this year...
$340M at this point for Vladdy is chump change. Vladdy can easily pull $500M now after Soto has thrown the whole “market value” out to lunch.
Who knows...1st base isn't that deep. Yankees could use an upgrade.
OF are premium positions ?
If Vladdy becomes a Met that would be crazy. Mets are going to be really really good next season!
Hurts to say but it’s gonna happen 😭
Man I can't wait for the season to start. L.F.G.M
Might need some pitching too. Right now, you're in desperate need in the pen and rotation. Clay Holmes as a starter is a bad idea that almost certainly doesn't work.
Dodgers in 4
@@LILTJ008you shot your load already bunch a scammers
Jays front office has no clue what they are doing. They waitied too long to pay Vladdy now this time next yr he walking & Jays losing him for nothing!!
Shapiro & Atkins for the Jays are Beavis & Butthead.
They have been in power for ten years & have done nothing except rebuild the stadium.🏟
What good is an upgraded stadium that they made now into a pitchers park before the upgrades it was a homerun stadium.
The changes they made to the outfield made the team worse bc they have slap hitters outside of Vladdy.
Ross Atkins is the worst GM in all of MLB!!
Great job young man. Keep them coming. Vids are getting better all the time.
As a jays fan I am done with this team
I will always be a blue Jays fan but I will not support my team while the clown show if Atkins and Schapiro are driving the bus. Those 2 morons have destroyed the team, the teams future and the city's love of the Jays
I'm done with watching the Vlad and Bo babies
Legit feel bad for Toronto fans. Ownership is trying tho
Once Vlad walks I am done watching them. He's the only thing that's kept me watching them last 4-5 years and been watching every season since 2013. I do not want another Jays team where a player like Smoak was their best hitter and Eric Sougaurd. Man that was awful
Hopefully he follows in his father's foot steps in leaving a Canadian team to go to Anaheim.
No one wants to be in Anaheim.
Lmao why would he go there
Time to replace the management in the Toronto Office. We need guy who want to buy like they did in 92 93. Other teams are building. The Jays are just loosing opportunity after opportunity. The market need to be reexamined. If it is to be competitive then all teams deserve an equal try at the star player who shouldn't be able to be bought by highest bidder. Build brands let player decide where or who they want to play for based on that rather then dollars. Time for change.
The Blue Jays better give him extension otherwise, everybody in the front office are fired
It won't surprise me if the Mets sign him for 680mil/15yrs.
Better trade him and Bichette NOW. Vlad going to be looking for $600 mill.
@@362chop- - 600 Millions 😂😂
@ You don’t think Vlad “Thinks” he’s as good as Soto?? As young?? Not happening but tell him that.
It's rough when Cohen overpays for Soto and Vladdy sees those dollaz. Everyone's gonna want to test free agency. Dunno who wants to play in Toronto anyway.
Soto and the Mets just screwed the market. Now anybody that doesn't have 5 tools is going to get 400 mil of they produce 80% of Juan Sotos productivity
Vladdy has said out loud and publicly, multiple times that he loves Toronto, loves playing there, and wants to spend his career there. Even if he doesn’t wanna join the Mets he knows cohen will bid highly for him, maybe just to drive the jays price up. He should be getting north of 400M
I think what your going to see is the balls being juiced to have more premium hitters. The game lacks deep lineups. The hitters are constantly challenged with seemingly every pitcher throwing over 97mph. 10 years ago, that was unheard of.
As a Bluejay fan, I’m going to miss Vladi after this season but may find myself watching a lot of Mets games once he signs there that is for sure happening
Incorrect. The worse Jays nightmare has been here for years. The President, the GM and the manager. Why does the owner...Rogers put up with such incompetence?
The Angels should make him an offer he can’t refuse. Vlad can help out Trout and the Angels go to the playoffs. Become an Angels legend like his father before him.
Vladdy and Trout can take turns at DH. Trout is moving to first or right.
Ohtani didn't help Trout, Vlad won't
The difference in intelligence between the Jays and the Astros is enormous. The Astros trading Tucker for some really nice pieces that will keep them competitive going forward. While the Jays are going to go all the way to free agency and lose Vlad for nothing OR be stuck with a crippling 600 million overpay. It really shows how a team from a midmarket can easily be competitive as long as they have the right people in place. The Astros do the jays do not
Stop it. Houston a midmarket? That's absurd. They are a huge market. The only ones bigger in America are LA, NY and Chicago. Toronto is really not much more populated than Houston.
Nice pieces?!?! You call paredes nice? Thats bottom of the barrel for tucker. Stop it, they took what they had to take cause nobody was offering more.
They didn’t get anything of value for Tucker
@ Cam Smith is legit
@@Dhsjsifcy look up Cam Smith. He will be an allstar for 700k 2 years from now
vlad has greater promise than soto 7 days a week. without judge hitting behind him, soto's a .255 hitter
I don't remember Judge on the Padres or Nationals... And Remember, Nationals had NOBODY!!!
This sucks but honestly how many playoff games have the Blue Jays won during the Guerrero years?
He’s going to be a Met
No doubt about it
Mets suck they can’t even afford a homeless man on the street he’s definitely gonna go to the Dodgers because Freeman’s gonna retire
@@SORINIDAGOTU mean the Yankees
@ no I don’t. Nobody’s going to Yankees first of all who wants to live in the Bronx and second of all yeah they suck.
They can house TWO designated hitters?
Mets all the way! 💰💰💰
Well, at least Blue Jays fans have their 9-16 record in the playoffs since 1993 to remember.
Don’t know he would fit with the Yanks but he does play 1st base!
worst defensive first baseman in the league easily. With a gold glove....
Offensive is more valuable than defense. Derek Jeter was the worse defensive short stop at multiple times where he still won golden gloves. I don’t agree with the idea they deserved it, but that’s just how the game is played.
Jeter was on my the worst to nerds who look back years later using the flawed defensive metrics people use. People who watched him know that,while he may nog have been a great defender because his range wasn't great, he was FAR from bad at short. Bad defenders make errors, miss the easy plays, they don't position themselves well or get good reads. Derek was great in these areas. And as heads up.a defender as I've ever seen. The list of players who make the flip play is probably just him. When else have you ever seen the shortstop in the perfect spot by the first baseline to cutoff an overthrow? How many shortstops you see go diving face first into the seats because their concern was catching the ball, not their safety?
How many bad defensive players have the iconic plays Jeter has made?
Jeter was only the worst to nerds who look back years later using the flawed defensive metrics people use. People who watched him know that, while he may not have been a great defender because his range wasn't great, he was FAR from bad at short. Bad defenders make errors, miss the easy plays, they don't position themselves well or get good reads. Derek was great in these areas. And as heads up.a defender as I've ever seen. The list of players who make the flip play is probably just him. When else have you ever seen the shortstop in the perfect spot by the first baseline to cutoff an overthrow? How many shortstops you see go diving face first into the seats because their concern was catching the ball, not their safety?
How many bad defensive players have the iconic plays Jeter has made?
Vlad getting thrown out trying to make a single into a double, or taking too much of a lead and not even trying to get back, hitting into too many double plays, swinging at bad pitchers, not swinging at pitches down the middles, way over rated.
@@christopherblack4520 and people say Pete Alonso was bad
Vlad should get 500+ million
I’ve been a Jays fan since they entered the league. Unfortunately I don’t see a bright future for the team. Is there a relocation in the coming years ? If they can’t sign players to keep the team competitive fans will stop going to the stadium.
Ask an infielder how "less important" a first baseman is.
Let him go blue jays. No one is worth north of 600 million.
Blue Jays are north of everything though
They might compete with the Yankees for last place 😂
Vlad is not worth 300 million
shohei ohtani
10 yrs 400 mil. Could just be a dh 2nd half of contract. Who needs a power right hand bat? Do they have money? Answer yes to both of these, go look at Vladimir
Vladdy to the Yankees only make sense
The Jays should walk away ... Vladdy is a great hitter, but he's going to trend downward sooner than later .
Only time will tell.
If the bluejays trade vlad to the mets for the mers top 5 prospects the blue jays would get some much more talent and that helps the mets to win in 2025 and the bluejays would have a brighter future and not waste vlads talent bluejays would luis acuna jr, brett batty, ronnie Mauricio, jett williams ,and McNeil would be way better deal for bluejays in the long term. Plus mets have the money to offer a big contrat to vlad and who doesnt want to play for the mets right now .
Neither one is adept with the glove.
Wouldn’t he be 27 not 26 for 2026 season?
Yes, his birthday is in March.
lol teams need to put their foot down, and refuse to sign these people for absurd money just cause they declined once. Shohei starting to look like a steal at this rate
So will blue jays just trade him or keep him for 2025 and let him walk
Horrible defender. Good bat. Soto should've asked Steve for Vlad. Bcz Steve did not say no to anything Soto wanted.
If I'm being honest, if Vladdy Jr. declined the Blue Jays' offer, I hope that the Angels make a play for him. But, as Dodgers fan, would be hilarious if we sign him lol
And defer the money
@bright6200 that, too. Because it's exclusively for the Dodgers lol
@jeffrey_solis90 yea I mean you are pretty much mortgaging the future but who cares right?
@@bright6200 oh, I'm just making a joke of it. If people are gonna be mad that the Dodgers do that, why not lean into it for shits and giggles?
@jeffrey_solis90 im not bad at the dodgers at all. I just think it will be an issue down the road. For those who think oh 10 years from now 700 million will seem like nothing lol. Pretty sure it will still be something.
Let the games begin haha 😆 that's why this Soto deal is horrible for baseball. Ridiculous amount of salaries, the other side of that coin will be teams like that Astros trading away elite players to get something in return because they àre not about to break the bank for one player
Vlad Junior is willing to shave his head if necessary.... Guess which team he was getting ready to go on
Mets! 😏
He said publicly he hates the Yankees
Yankees need a 1 basemen
He sees Soto's 765mil/15yrs deal. He thinks he's getting that ball park figures.
hes getting a whole lot more than 340 million, thats for sure
He won't see that but will def get 500-550mil 12 years with an opt out at 5 years just like Soto's that can be voided with a new extra mil
340 million is disrespectful he gone get 800
They will be fine, I keep being told they are like a top-5 market. Time for them to start proving the virtue signal.
Sounds like the Mets ruined baseball
Wrong blue team…that was all dodgers with 700 million deferred and Japan as their farm team. Mets gotta keep pace as cohen said he would recreate the east coast dodgers
If vladdy goes to the Mets, the Yankees and everyone in the NL east will be cooked lol and they will have a solid chance against my Dodgers 🤷♂️
Don't lie to them. That rotation is really hurting still
That's just nonsense. You have a bad rotation, meh bullpen. And Classy really isn't that dude. He is a good, even very good player. But you're acting like he's some great player who would guarantee something for the Mets. The Mets team right now, if you added Vlad, would be the third place team in the NL East. Unless the Braves and Phillies had serious injuries. You guys just don't have the pitching.
*Vladdy apparently gets auto corrected to Classy.
@@snerdtergusonwe had no pitching last year and I think we did pretty good,let them build this is only the beginning
Off season still on and Mets still shopping 💰💰💰
Vlad can join Dodgers, not Soto. Soso can stay Solo.
Vladdy 2 Queenssssssss
He wants to be a Yankee!
I was just about to say aint vladdy win a gold glove???
You should watch him play. Throws at his chest might be dropped.
@ Yeah ngl you guys are buggin vladdy played extremely well first base and won gold glove in 22
The Gold Glove final voting and nomination process has been tainted as of late. Soto had a nomination this past year and he is below avg fielding.
@@supersplashgibson9155 using gold gloves to justify someones defense is delusional
@@Someone-hi1nt Yeah true but at what point did that start hapening 2022?
He will go to cubs
He be a met next year
Jays don't deserve him. Because of Loss Atkins
Vladdy gone.
Hes going to the mets and pete Alonzo is gone we will be competitive but the follicle year mets all in
Love how you think 1 signing makes everyone now a met lmao focus on 25 before you make these ridiculous assumptions. Maybe think of Verlander and Schertzer I bet you thought they would win it all lmao 🤣
Who’s here after vlad just signed with the Yankees for 479 million dollars?
Vladdy has publicly said he will never sign with the Yankees
@ well something changed lol
Mets for life! 💰💰💰
@ let’s go baby
@@DarkJediForce I heard he changed his mind and that's why he chopped off his dreadlocks.
players not ohtani are utterly replaceable just like every other person on this planet.
PURE GREED!! RUINING MLB!!
Why he look like suge knight in the thumbnail 😭
Stop lying. The only thing he led was was average. Aaron Judge blew him out in every offensive category
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