The thing piece you are calling a 'filter' is actually an amp. rams with the infinity sound system have those amps on the front speakers and yes the front speakers are 6x9 and I think the rear door speakers for extended cabs are 5.25 inch. I would check to make sure though about the rears.
thanks for that napa part number on those replacement fasteners. Just replaced my window regulator in my 98. no sense in trying to save those things. cheers
The fronts are 6x9's and the rear are 5.25". You can actually put two 5.25"'s in each rear panel. There is already holes cut for them. All you have to do is drill the holes for the screws.
Peter, no one except Radio Shack has made 8 ohm car speakers since the 70s. Even if it was 8 ohm, that would simply cut the power by a half, dropping the volume SLIGHTLY. (Also reducing amp heat by 1/2.) What DOES need to be done is fabricate an additional heatsink, because the amp used the magnet structure for its heatsink. Incidently, often the signal to the amp input from the radio was speaker level, so you may be able to connect the new speaker directly to those leads. Most Chrysler radios were high level output. I know; I fixed car stereo for 35 years.
snysnd this was a great comment, until 5e very last sentence. “Hi, I’m here to help educated. Then I’ll end by being a smartass and boasting myself, rather than let my information speak for itself.”
Still work fine but as I said in the video I thing that dual cone air gap will shorten it's life in a dusty environment. As of right now they work 100%. Maybe it isn't an issue after all?
Well I wasn't totally sure what they were so I put them back. To be honest I never thought about simply trying the system without them. Just put them back on auto-pilot.
THank you, I thought I was heading back to the dead end road of not being able to attach a new speak to an existing factory amp door thing......THANKS FOR THE GUIDANCE!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the comment! I went to Autozone and bought one 6x9 speaker. Zip tied the filter/amp to the speaker and like yours, it sounds great! So thanks for bring this up. Was a cheap fix for my 99 Ram.
paul rogers he must not be aware that THEY MAKE TOOLS FOR BODY CLIPS! Bring the right tool will make it so you don’t blame temperature, blame yourself. This is hilarious to watch.
That plastic peace is a amplifier. For the speaker and unless you by pass it you will need it for your next speaker! By passing is easy but if not done right it will take our the tweeter. Im an audio installer .
+Matt Johnsn Hi Matt I have a 2000 caravan trying to replace the door speakers with 3 way's. The speakers pretty much look like this one and I am only getting a bass out of them. I have the infinity system in it so im trying to figure out how to wire the new 3'ways. Any advice would be great. TY
HI, I appreciate the video. However after watching about 100 of these videos, and talking with stereo install, and dodge, it seems like the wiring diagram for the stock amp on the front door speakers (99 ram 1500) is somewhat of national security. No one knows, or wants to say. I bought the truck and one of the amps are cut out. So I'm replacing the door speakers. However I need to find the wiring diagram for the 12 or so wires that feed that speaker amp so I can bypass it. ?? thanks
Thanks I have an 01 dodge ram and was worried to take my panels off thinking I was going to have to modify that amp onto my new speakers for my truck but fortunately I dont have the infinity sound system so i shouldnt have anything like that to begin with right?
Ok, so this question is for the "professional" installers. I have this same speaker, only where the one in the video is black, mine is white. I have a 2002 Dodge Grand Caravan ES with an Infinity system. The OEM stereo powers on, but not a single speaker produces sound. It would only make sense in my head that there is a factory amplifier hidden somewhere or these units attached to the speakers are individual amplifiers or are they as mentioned in so many words, crossovers. The speaker I pulled out, I tested the speaker itself, checks good. Under the hood, relay and fuse are both good. I went to autozone and they called a hotline or something that says my model year does not have a factory amplifier. It is obvious that the wires behind the radio have been altered, but appear to have been returned to their previous state. There has to be a single unit or something somewhere for none of the speakers to work at all...the person on the phone says no amplifier, but it makes more sense that there would be and that it was just left unplugged from whomever had a system in it once before? I'm at a total loss here!!! SOMEBODY please help me lol :-)
I decided to up grade my stereo to a 220 watt sony explode and since to amps on the front doors are only 30 watts max i by passed them since the stereo puts out 55 watts per speaker i found the blue and yellow are positive one is the positive from the stereo and the other is the positive to the tweeter the brown and the orange are the negative one is the negative from the stereo and the other is the negative to the tweeter the violet and the green are the positive and negative that power the amp
If you didn't do your research on to what that part was on the speaker that you thought was a filter was a standalone amp for that single speaker, congrats you probably have the infinity stock sound system. I replace the door speakers in my 2002 2500 and don't have the premium sound system so its just standard 6x9 with the Chrysler logo on it no amps.
these are amps and run off 12 volts the impedence from the stereo up front will not run a speaker its so weak its like a phone cartridge your stuck with the amp speaker or an aftermarket stereo replacement plus probably speakers too plus wiring in other words blow an amp get an amp or complete aftermarket system
My god I just put myn together and almost Checked out for good right there and it was working when it was apart and now they don't work again... Need to be replace),:
that plastic peace your attaching,is it impotent, can i attach it without it,and if not will it still work on my new speaker,the cercular part on the back to big for it, will it still work?
The box on the side of the speaker is a factory amplifier. What is not commonly know is the Chrysler Infinity amplified speakers have a 4 ohm impedance. The after market speakers you bought have an 8 ohm impedance. By cobbling a system together like this will result in a very poor sounding system. Your best bet is to hit a bone yard or a dealer for factory speakers......or bite the bullet and replace the whole system. Hodge-podging it like this will result in you being very disappointed.
I just got a 2001 dodge ram and the passenger speaker doesn't work, was thinking of just hitting up walmart for some cheap speaker(hopefully by a decent name brand like pioneer or something), to be honest I don't even know if these speakers are stock that are already in it, I doubt it, they're red and black with sort of gold wires coming out the front sides much like the silver ones in this vid. I already called the junkyards here and they don't have any parts I need, as long as the speaker works period and sounds alright I'm fine, I'm not a big audiophile, just going to play downloaded mp3's anyway, not some high quality FLAC audio or anything...a big plus for me is the truck doesn't have any inside door panels period lmao....I really don't feel like paying 100+ bucks each online for both door panels...also need a dashboard but 300 bucks for a piece of plastic is ridiculous, I'll throw a cheap ebay cover over it. There's definitely diminishing returns regarding blowing alot of money on any old vehicle period, I'd rather put that 500+ bucks into fixing any mechanical problems that arise rather than plastic parts for the interior...I think the current speakers inside both doors are just cheap Boss speakers, the driver's one sounds good enough for me though.
It's not that big of a deal. What he should've done is removed the factory "amp" mounted on the stock speakers and wired them up directly, but you'd need to look up color codes for the wires so you get it right - there's a bunch of videos on here covering that. Audio quality would be impacted more by the head unit rather than the nice speakers he bought to replace the poopy factory ones. :)
People always assume everything is as they know it. I can assure you in temps of 20F door panels are shatter bombs just waiting to go off when you try and flex old plastics at those temps.
That's wut the idiots at Jeep (and all American car companies) decided to do and still get shitty sound...This is same as my Jeep. You can attach it however you want, I just drilled 2 holes thru the door below speaker ( which clears the window). Pain in the ASS!
ok so I'm planning on putting a new deck and speakers in my 96 ram with infinity system, so if i unbolt these off old speakers and put on the new ones and just put in the new deck will everything work? because I've been told i would need to buy an adaptor to power up the existing infinity amp but i can't seem to find one anywhere does anyone know about this?
Enjoyed your video, mostly due to your honesty of working in the cold and hate for your door pannels. I must agreee. Good job guy.
That big black apparatus on the factory speaker is an amplifier.
Thanks, been looking for a video like this for a while my speakers on my 98 ram need replaced this will be of great use to me!
The reason your new speaker sounded bad, is the infinity amp only produces mid to low tones. It tries to rely on the pillar tweeter for highs
That thing attached is an amp. Some dodges use individual amps to power their speakers.
The thing piece you are calling a 'filter' is actually an amp. rams with the infinity sound system have those amps on the front speakers and yes the front speakers are 6x9 and I think the rear door speakers for extended cabs are 5.25 inch. I would check to make sure though about the rears.
Nice and thanks for posting the wires you found.
As dumb as it might be, I ended up using a zip tie to attach the amp to the speaker. It ended up working out.
I don’t see a reason to reattach the amp to the speaker
thanks for that napa part number on those replacement fasteners. Just replaced my window regulator in my 98. no sense in trying to save those things. cheers
The fronts are 6x9's and the rear are 5.25". You can actually put two 5.25"'s in each rear panel. There is already holes cut for them. All you have to do is drill the holes for the screws.
That'd be shweet
Thanks didn't know that
So 4 5.25"s in the rear panels
Is there a harness for the other two?
Peter, no one except Radio Shack has made 8 ohm car speakers since the 70s. Even if it was 8 ohm, that would simply cut the power by a half, dropping the volume SLIGHTLY. (Also reducing amp heat by 1/2.) What DOES need to be done is fabricate an additional heatsink, because the amp used the magnet structure for its heatsink. Incidently, often the signal to the amp input from the radio was speaker level, so you may be able to connect the new speaker directly to those leads. Most Chrysler radios were high level output. I know; I fixed car stereo for 35 years.
snysnd this was a great comment, until 5e very last sentence.
“Hi, I’m here to help educated. Then I’ll end by being a smartass and boasting myself, rather than let my information speak for itself.”
how do u bypass it?
I don't know what everybody is complaining about this guy done something they say can't be done without bypassing amp or rewiring the whole thing
The issue is that the imepdence is completely off between 4 ohm and 8 ohm speakers. The better option is to bypass those shitty amps all together.
Still work fine but as I said in the video I thing that dual cone air gap will shorten it's life in a dusty environment. As of right now they work 100%. Maybe it isn't an issue after all?
So how do I know if my speaker died or if my amp died?
Well I wasn't totally sure what they were so I put them back. To be honest I never thought about simply trying the system without them. Just put them back on auto-pilot.
I have a 96 and am looking into doing the same. my front 6x9's don't have the amp though. rear cab speakers for mine are 5.50x5.50
THank you, I thought I was heading back to the dead end road of not being able to attach a new speak to an existing factory amp door thing......THANKS FOR THE GUIDANCE!!!!!!!!!!!
Did you need wiring harness adapters?
You just gotta fine the - + speaker wires in the harness n splice it to the speaker! I used a tester light
I bought a 6x9 single speaker from pepboys for under 20 bucks and used 2 zip ties on the amp. Works great.
i used zip ties to keep the amp in place, works great.
Thanks for the comment! I went to Autozone and bought one 6x9 speaker. Zip tied the filter/amp to the speaker and like yours, it sounds great! So thanks for bring this up. Was a cheap fix for my 99 Ram.
you must not work on cars or trucks much- I can get the door skin off my dodge in less than 2 minutes
+paul rogers In the Montana winter if you rush it the plastic will shatter.
paul rogers he must not be aware that THEY MAKE TOOLS FOR BODY CLIPS! Bring the right tool will make it so you don’t blame temperature, blame yourself. This is hilarious to watch.
Is that a tri-axial speaker,and did you buy it saying it's a replacement or is it just a speaker you wanted in it.?
+rockymontana1 I bought it to replace a speaker that died.
That plastic peace is a amplifier. For the speaker and unless you by pass it you will need it for your next speaker! By passing is easy but if not done right it will take our the tweeter. Im an audio installer .
+Matt Johnsn Hi Matt I have a 2000 caravan trying to replace the door speakers with 3 way's. The speakers pretty much look like this one and I am only getting a bass out of them. I have the infinity system in it so im trying to figure out how to wire the new 3'ways. Any advice would be great. TY
do you have an update on how well this speakers are working
Which is possible, the small terminal or the large one?
There are body and trim removal tools that you can purchase. FYI.
HI, I appreciate the video. However after watching about 100 of these videos, and talking with stereo install, and dodge, it seems like the wiring diagram for the stock amp on the front door speakers (99 ram 1500) is somewhat of national security. No one knows, or wants to say. I bought the truck and one of the amps are cut out. So I'm replacing the door speakers. However I need to find the wiring diagram for the 12 or so wires that feed that speaker amp so I can bypass it. ?? thanks
Where can I buy one from
I just attached the amp with a nut and bolt just up and to the left of the speaker inside the door
+Norman Gettys As long as it doesn't rattle that is probably a better solution.
Thanks I have an 01 dodge ram and was worried to take my panels off thinking I was going to have to modify that amp onto my new speakers for my truck but fortunately I dont have the infinity sound system so i shouldnt have anything like that to begin with right?
Yes.
hey, not sure if you’ve listened to your video but half the time it’s hard to hear you between background noise or talking too low.
Cameras back then struggled more than they do today.
Ok, so this question is for the "professional" installers. I have this same speaker, only where the one in the video is black, mine is white. I have a 2002 Dodge Grand Caravan
ES with an Infinity system. The OEM stereo powers on, but not a single speaker produces sound. It would only make sense in my head that there is a factory amplifier hidden somewhere or these units attached to the speakers are individual amplifiers or are they as mentioned in so many words, crossovers. The speaker I pulled out, I tested the speaker itself, checks good. Under the hood, relay and fuse are both good. I went to autozone and they called a hotline or something that says my model year does not have a factory amplifier. It is obvious that the wires behind the radio have been altered, but appear to have been returned to their previous state. There has to be a single unit or something somewhere for none of the speakers to work at all...the person on the phone says no amplifier, but it makes more sense that there would be and that it was just left unplugged from whomever had a system in it once before? I'm at a total loss here!!! SOMEBODY please help me lol :-)
I decided to up grade my stereo to a 220 watt sony explode and since to amps on the front doors are only 30 watts max i by passed them since the stereo puts out 55 watts per speaker i found the blue and yellow are positive one is the positive from the stereo and the other is the positive to the tweeter the brown and the orange are the negative one is the negative from the stereo and the other is the negative to the tweeter the violet and the green are the positive and negative that power the amp
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If you didn't do your research on to what that part was on the speaker that you thought was a filter was a standalone amp for that single speaker, congrats you probably have the infinity stock sound system. I replace the door speakers in my 2002 2500 and don't have the premium sound system so its just standard 6x9 with the Chrysler logo on it no amps.
2004 dodge l need to find out to unjust the front door. The door leaks air an make noise
It is the part of the job I fear most.
How did you remove the amp from the original speaker?
Drilled out the rivets if I remember correctly.
NelsonStudios do you need that or can you cut it
these are amps and run off 12 volts the impedence from the stereo up front will not run a speaker its so weak its like a phone cartridge
your stuck with the amp speaker or an aftermarket stereo replacement plus probably speakers too plus wiring in other words blow an amp get an amp or complete aftermarket system
how come rite when u go outside ur like whispering...? lmao just wondering
What size speaker are those. Also does anyone know the size of the rear ones.
The fronts were 6x9 if I remember right. I have one on the shelf and will check, will post again if it isn't 6x9.
5.25" are the rear ones
My god I just put myn together and almost Checked out for good right there and it was working when it was apart and now they don't work again... Need to be replace),:
that plastic peace your attaching,is it impotent, can i attach it without it,and if not will it still work on my new speaker,the cercular part on the back to big for it, will it still work?
It has to go back, it is part of the radio.
That is what I have been told.
Those plastic things on the backs of the old speakers are amplifiers, they are for the factory Infinity system.
Can you cut them off? Or do you need them?
The box on the side of the speaker is a factory amplifier. What is not commonly know is the Chrysler Infinity amplified speakers have a 4 ohm impedance. The after market speakers you bought have an 8 ohm impedance. By cobbling a system together like this will result in a very poor sounding system. Your best bet is to hit a bone yard or a dealer for factory speakers......or bite the bullet and replace the whole system. Hodge-podging it like this will result in you being very disappointed.
IDK, seemed to work alright for the last four years...
I just got a 2001 dodge ram and the passenger speaker doesn't work, was thinking of just hitting up walmart for some cheap speaker(hopefully by a decent name brand like pioneer or something), to be honest I don't even know if these speakers are stock that are already in it, I doubt it, they're red and black with sort of gold wires coming out the front sides much like the silver ones in this vid. I already called the junkyards here and they don't have any parts I need, as long as the speaker works period and sounds alright I'm fine, I'm not a big audiophile, just going to play downloaded mp3's anyway, not some high quality FLAC audio or anything...a big plus for me is the truck doesn't have any inside door panels period lmao....I really don't feel like paying 100+ bucks each online for both door panels...also need a dashboard but 300 bucks for a piece of plastic is ridiculous, I'll throw a cheap ebay cover over it. There's definitely diminishing returns regarding blowing alot of money on any old vehicle period, I'd rather put that 500+ bucks into fixing any mechanical problems that arise rather than plastic parts for the interior...I think the current speakers inside both doors are just cheap Boss speakers, the driver's one sounds good enough for me though.
It's not that big of a deal. What he should've done is removed the factory "amp" mounted on the stock speakers and wired them up directly, but you'd need to look up color codes for the wires so you get it right - there's a bunch of videos on here covering that. Audio quality would be impacted more by the head unit rather than the nice speakers he bought to replace the poopy factory ones. :)
The Infinity are not that bad. The problem is that when the amp goes, the speaker won't work. Those Pioneer are not the best replacements.
door panels are easy to take off.
People always assume everything is as they know it. I can assure you in temps of 20F door panels are shatter bombs just waiting to go off when you try and flex old plastics at those temps.
Why wouldn't you just get rid of that stupid noise filter thing Thats what I did and the speaker sounds way better w/o it! Just asking!
“I keep breaking things, because I don’t use the proper tools. Then dramatically exclaim that it’s the colds fault.” 🤦🏻♂️
"I work in a heated environment and can't understand how plastic can get brittle below freezing"
Those are amplifiers honey..
That's wut the idiots at Jeep (and all American car companies) decided to do and still get shitty sound...This is same as my Jeep. You can attach it however you want, I just drilled 2 holes thru the door below speaker ( which clears the window). Pain in the ASS!
FUTMZ that did make me laugh. You can't write a works either though. Lmao miswording correcting mispelling.
ok so I'm planning on putting a new deck and speakers in my 96 ram with infinity system, so if i unbolt these off old speakers and put on the new ones and just put in the new deck will everything work? because I've been told i would need to buy an adaptor to power up the existing infinity amp but i can't seem to find one anywhere does anyone know about this?
That is what I did and all these years later they still run fine.
whitesnake :)
WHY DON'T THESE GUY'S SPEAK UP SO WE CAN HEAR THEM???????????????
speak up please
By the way I know how those door panels are they SUCK!!!!
terrible video!!
Your refund is in the mail.
in wooden nickels 😅
Hey Meg, blog about it
wah. apparently you'd like the panels to just fall off anywhere. some people are just too stupid to exist. O.o
Awww, do you need a hug?