Blame - Music Takes You (recreated in the studio)

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  • @DJGanon
    @DJGanon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thanks for sharing this video, I loved it when you first posted it on FB & look forward to seeing what you do with your new TH-cam Channel. You’ve been one of my favourite producers ever since I first heard this tune when it was originally released. Keep up the amazing work with Social Misfits & your other projects. Mad Respect due to ya mate...you’re a true originator & innovator!!!

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks man, that really means a lot! 👊🏻❤️

  • @andrereloaded1425
    @andrereloaded1425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It's hard to put into words the impact this tune had on raves when it came out. Early 1992 was the peak of the hardcore era for me. Magical days to be a raver.

  • @geoffwilson7322
    @geoffwilson7322 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No way, you still look like a Whippersnapper 🧐
    Living legend 👍

  • @adehowells5896
    @adehowells5896 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A timeless classic that never gets old. pure joy

  • @beatsbreaksbricks6566
    @beatsbreaksbricks6566 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unreal!

  • @christopherjames-mills1094
    @christopherjames-mills1094 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This track helped define an era for me, thanks so much for the memories Blame…..

  • @BillyMustang101
    @BillyMustang101 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Legendary track and all the remixes 🔥🔥🔥

  • @lukehollis1242
    @lukehollis1242 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is 🔥 them high pitched half time vocals get me everytime!

  • @ndangelo
    @ndangelo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Heard this for the 1st time on the Top Buzz 1991 NYE mix on tape when I was 13. Took me until TH-cam kicked off properly with the same mix with track listing to get the tracks name. Brought it streight away on Vinyl! BANGER

  • @adehowells5896
    @adehowells5896 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The man can play the piano and make it great on the ears ❤

  • @Conzequent86
    @Conzequent86 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are a legend blame! Many thanks for defining my way of life. This tune is a mastetpiece

  • @Gainn
    @Gainn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This track got me through my driving test. I was so hyped up and played it a couple of times before the test and I was just in the zone.
    Hear it in my head every time I go past Dunstable College.. 😎

  • @anonymousanonymous5327
    @anonymousanonymous5327 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    greetings from buckingham avenue Slough!!!

  • @КонстантинК-д8д
    @КонстантинК-д8д 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't belive it, 20+ years passed by. Thanks for the fish!

  • @penguinfrompluto
    @penguinfrompluto ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved this tune on mixes. Amazing work.

  • @ShiftingSands101
    @ShiftingSands101 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing! Would love to hear - Invisible Man - The End, another classic from that era! Great video.

  • @thatwasagoodoneee
    @thatwasagoodoneee ปีที่แล้ว

    love you blame thank you for bringing classics to moving shadow

  • @briggd01
    @briggd01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All i can say is thanks for the rush's and the amazing memories of this track at Dreamscape, NRG, Skegness weekender, and various other rave events back in the day. One of the tunes that defined the rave scene - much love

  • @AnthonyRosbottom
    @AnthonyRosbottom 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow! Thanks for bringing back all these great memories. They were all amazing tunes back then

  • @paullawson6749
    @paullawson6749 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Came back for that flavour one love Conrad

  • @mind-setcoaching5392
    @mind-setcoaching5392 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi mate, firstly thanks for this video it was quality. Secondly, thank you for what you brought to the rave scene at the time. Your sound set the standard back in the day, and is beyond iconic now... so many amazing memories from those days for me.
    I still have this track on vinyl, along with various other quality remixes of it... including my favourite of all - '2 bad mice remix'.
    Goosebumps still to this day from these tunes.
    I notice you haven't done any videos for a long while, which is a big shame...hope you are all good pal.

  • @DJJHOWL
    @DJJHOWL 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Simple amazing brooo!! this is Rave everrrrrrrr!!!

  • @amusementtrader
    @amusementtrader ปีที่แล้ว

    Wicked track, this was a big part of my youth

  • @fluidmotionhouse
    @fluidmotionhouse 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice one. I bought a lot of 720 tunes back in the day. I remember hearing you play DJ Addiction's - Bodywerve at the Logical Progression 3 tour in Sankeys in Manchester. Those electricity samples sounded ace in the club.

  • @williamjay8715
    @williamjay8715 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a banging track...always remember it from that Fantazia Westpoint NYE 91 Top Buzz set, Deffo in my top five choons...those raves back then were life changing...Perception, Fantazia, Universe, Raindance, Castlemorton.

  • @indepthcardetailing2254
    @indepthcardetailing2254 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a tune. 👍🏼

  • @danlane9917
    @danlane9917 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't help but hear mad P mc'ing over the top of this. Amazing track

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dan LAne haha I know what you mean! 👊🏻

  • @Tshego2000
    @Tshego2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    even though I've only known jungle drum & bass for 24 hours I love this guys music

  • @RobDarkhalf
    @RobDarkhalf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Best rave track of all time imo ;)

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rob Darkhalf that is so cool of you to say Rob. Biggups bro! 👊🏻❤️

  • @Manc268
    @Manc268 ปีที่แล้ว

    what a legendary track :) most remixes are also very good

  • @stephenphilpott6772
    @stephenphilpott6772 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was 22 yrs old when you released this! It's totally in bedded in my skull even to this day being 50yrs, your track has been the soundtrack, my go to choon since then.🕊❤💃🕪👊

  • @Randomizer92mx
    @Randomizer92mx ปีที่แล้ว

    Legendary track! 🔥

  • @juliantaylor6820
    @juliantaylor6820 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I seen blame in a dj magazine in Canada and blame has one of the best studios in the world with out of this world best mixer

  • @ukgforze
    @ukgforze 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Master at work m8, proper legendary track 🔥

  • @charlieboy259
    @charlieboy259 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Your the original blame guy who wrote this song like nearly 30 years ago??!!
    You are a talented musician and even the way you talk and introduce the song you stand out from others with a friendly and vibrant attitude!
    Keep up the good work and keep the videos coming!

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Charlie Boy that’s me Charlie! Glad you’re enjoying the videos mate 👊🏻❤️

    • @charlieboy259
      @charlieboy259 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Blame720 Wow!
      you look good for your age!
      was it true that version with seals vocals helped push his career further?
      loved the video you did with 2 blind mice that was great!
      sadly I was too young to go to raves in the 90s but I still enjoyed all the classics my sister used to belt out on the old pioneer stack system including this one!

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Haha thanks Charlie! I don’t think Seal needed any help from me, he was already an international superstar.. and he was always going to do big things in music!

    • @charlieboy259
      @charlieboy259 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Blame720keep the videos coming! like I said before you are a talented musician and a pleasure to watch! all the best to you and thanks for making some great songs both new and old!

  • @bcitral
    @bcitral 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just stumbled across this video. Dude, thanks for the great vibes. One of the best tracks from that era and indeed brings back great memories.

  • @james040773
    @james040773 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow turning 50 this year. This track was/is ♨️🔥🔥🔥💜

  • @chesterperry2455
    @chesterperry2455 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An old friend randomly picked me up at 05.30 one morning recently, this was playing in the car! when I got in. Safe to say he was nutted reliving his youth!!!

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      chris harvey haha I love that Chris!

  • @mrtuna76
    @mrtuna76 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This track brings me joy, takes me back and gives me my inner youth vibe. Thank you 👍🏼

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      mrtuna76 that’s so cool to hear!! Biggups 👊🏻💥

  • @3foria420
    @3foria420 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this tune is what got me into rave music , awesome , which version is the one being sampled at 1 min 48secs thats my favourite

  • @AW-Services
    @AW-Services 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the most symbolic tracks of the hardcore breakbeat era. One that always makes you smile and bring back happier times. Love RUN DMC Mary Mary and all the work you have done Conrad, what's the female stab from

  • @alexday5892
    @alexday5892 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was just chatting to you on fb about Ware and the like. Just had to play this again. Thinking of shipping my vinyl collection over to Oz. Need to play these again. Cheers

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Alex Day glad you enjoyed the vid Alex! And yeah mate get that vinyl over to yours 🙌🏻❤️🙌🏻

  • @gavinlock5205
    @gavinlock5205 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    love this 👍❤

  • @roberthall8943
    @roberthall8943 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing, just stumbled on this on a Sunday afternoon. Thanks for posting and showing us the genesis of this song. I was there first time round, wrong side of 50 now, but this was up there with the greatest rave songs (all songs?) ever. Absolute monster of a tune, total rush your bollocks off moment whenever it dropped. Still got the original 12" and i'll treasure it forever. Total respect, and great to see the guy responsible for such an important tune.

  • @blackestnite
    @blackestnite 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This track makes me feel so good and brings me back to some good times!

  • @mirandafriday4023
    @mirandafriday4023 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Big Respect ! Loved Music takes you. You have genuine music talent, great to see I this day and age.

  • @Liquidsoundzuk
    @Liquidsoundzuk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always great watching a master craftsman at work...👊

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Liquidsoundzuk biggups mate! 👊🏻💥💥

  • @dalemcilwain
    @dalemcilwain ปีที่แล้ว

    The memories. 🥲🥲🥲

  • @FrogMellow
    @FrogMellow 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Blame 720 This song off moving shadow 02.1 was the very first drum and bass track I ever heard in an HMV in the early 2000s. Nearly 20 years later, and I still regularly listen to it, thanks

  • @markprobets483
    @markprobets483 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome 😎

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mark Probets glad you like Mark. Biggups sir! 👊🏻💥

  • @plainlazy2097
    @plainlazy2097 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of my all time favourites... came out when I was around 5 years old so kinda missed it the first time round. Recently I finally found what appeared to be a mint copy; sadly it had a whopper of a gouge between the two key tracks. So gutted when I had to return it to the seller. Will find a decent copy one day

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Van Der Funk 👊🏻❤️

  • @DjMossy
    @DjMossy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Legend 🙌🙌🙌

  • @djdavesonic
    @djdavesonic 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely love this! - still got on vily from my dj days \o/

  • @Emotion22
    @Emotion22 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Steve M-Ocean here ;) Good to see you got a TH-cam runnin' Big Love!!!!

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Emotion22 biggups Steve! 👊🏻❤️

  • @dazdavison1
    @dazdavison1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great tune , what’s the preset on the jx1 ?? Also can you do LFO LFO .please????

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s a great shout for Lfo! Love that track. I used the jx1 to trigger the sample so it’s not actually a preset 👊🏻

  • @neilwest5301
    @neilwest5301 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your first track was one of my favourite tunes ever.. music takes you round and round and round... 'subbed :)

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      neil west thanks Neil! That means a lot bro 👊🏻❤️

  • @LIVERNIL723
    @LIVERNIL723 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, you made this? Incredible. This was one of my favourite tunes circa 1992, when discovering it from a set played by Top Buzz NYE 1991.

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LIVERNIL753 thanks mate! That Top Buzz set really helped this track take off 👊🏻💥

    • @LIVERNIL723
      @LIVERNIL723 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Blame720 You're welcome mate. There is still some of us 'first generation' of 'Ravers' knocking around :-) at the tender age of 40. I would greatly welcome a re-release of this track :-)

  • @jonathanbailey5896
    @jonathanbailey5896 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Conrad that was really good yeah does brings back some really cool memories. I actually remember that track coming out and I remember you giving me your first CD.

  • @hso3facid
    @hso3facid 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    First of all I would just like you to know that this track is what got me into Jungle and DNB. I was too young to be aware of it when it first came out but it I discovered it through the ''10 Years of Drum & Bass Arena". It was on CD 2, mixed by Grooverider. I have a specific request and would be very grateful if you'd respond, I was watching the 'Hey Good Looking' Documentary and there is a nice futuristic A/V scene put to your music (I think the visual artist was James Ellis). Was this audio/visual work ever released? I have been desperately searching for it but to no avail.

  • @MrEndorpheen
    @MrEndorpheen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Positive vibes!)

  • @mattitch2859
    @mattitch2859 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice one!

  • @rosswimhurst
    @rosswimhurst ปีที่แล้ว

    Pure Fizz 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @sbanner428
    @sbanner428 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh dude I've always been crazy about the loop in this one. How did you make it in the first place?

  • @NicoBeat
    @NicoBeat ปีที่แล้ว

    This track is a fkn fundament!

  • @themarra3293
    @themarra3293 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Too notch. Subbed

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Marra 👊🏻❤️

  • @joshb9657
    @joshb9657 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OMG SO SICK!!!!!!!!

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Josh B Biggups Josh!

    • @joshb9657
      @joshb9657 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Blame720 Check out my track Josh B - Blame it on the state dedicated to this track

  • @colingriffiths3091
    @colingriffiths3091 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Took me back to spin in record shop in Manchester. Also Stu Allen on key 103. Where first heard it. Sad new about Stu you know you've got to do something for him. You and 2 bad mice.

  • @dazdavison1
    @dazdavison1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Top man for replying , keep doing what your doing your presenting skills are worthy of tv .the pad sound of LFO LFO was from kawaii k1 arrangement preset . But I still can’t work out what that lead sound is from .could you do a video on your experience when music takes you became massive ? Like how you got the ball rolling in the music scene . 🙂acid house forever 🙂

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Biggups Daz! The lfo bleep is a sq wave with loads of portamento/glide ...but I’m not sure which synth it was from. Could be a juno 👊🏻

  • @nathanwinslow1684
    @nathanwinslow1684 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are a Don bro 👊🏼

  • @kishcub
    @kishcub 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still got this on vinyl sitting somewhere at my mums house👍🏽❤

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      kishcub love that mate! 👊🏻💥

  • @philipchandler4925
    @philipchandler4925 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome

  • @retrorevival617
    @retrorevival617 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant thanks for sharing ! what is the sound on the Juno please?

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s a basic sawtooth with a sine wave to create a fat sub with some bite 👊🏻💥

  • @GL0WKiD
    @GL0WKiD 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    that was entertaining a lot Sir & of course educational for the youngsters :) Bigup Blame!!

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s so cool to hear! 🙏🏻❤️

  • @djbenavit
    @djbenavit 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Conrad.....where’s the original omni trio video mentioned at the beginning buddy, wanted to check it out....hope your all good bro 😊

  • @Vesalempinen
    @Vesalempinen 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    R E S P E C T ! ! !

  • @joshb9657
    @joshb9657 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really struggling with that classic sub bass/ sine wave bass lines used in hardcore on my tracks, I can’t find any info on what or how it was created, any help blame?

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Josh B we weren’t that clever at editing back then Josh! We just used basic sine waves and saw waves mixed together. Keep it simple and it works nicely 👍🏻

  • @tremor2000
    @tremor2000 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Blames the best, raved the shit out of this track

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tremor2000 maximum respect mate!

  • @X-STATIC-k9b
    @X-STATIC-k9b 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @juliantaylor6820
    @juliantaylor6820 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please come to Canada

  • @NickPitmanUK
    @NickPitmanUK 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you! This was one of my favourite tunes way back. Especially loved the vocal version with Seal's voice but was almost impossible to get a copy did you do that one? Love your positivity and approach please keep making recreation videos 👊🏼❤️

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nick Pitman thanks Nick, that means a lot sir... I’ll keep the vids coming!

  • @eblue4513
    @eblue4513 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great !!

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      E Blue glad you enjoyed it! 👊🏻

  • @missw4407
    @missw4407 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤ Merlee loves this

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Miss W it’s the secret agent Miss W! 🌋 ❤️

    • @missw4407
      @missw4407 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      hehe 🎵🎼🎶❤👌

  • @dylvasey
    @dylvasey 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    And just Iike that BIame discovers time traveI. He must have because I am back in the 90s Iovin' Iife and everyone in it.

  • @Numocron
    @Numocron 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow man this sounds tight right here man, well done. :)

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      NXZW thanks man!!!! I’ll keep the vids coming 👊🏻💥

    • @Numocron
      @Numocron 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Blame 720 You're very welcome. :)

  • @okeemusic
    @okeemusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Big ups Blame!!! \m/

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Okee Music 👊🏻💥💥💥

  • @spenstrangward5126
    @spenstrangward5126 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thats a classic but you didn't get to the piano section half way though... its a classic.. just subscribed mate..

  • @Safefragrance
    @Safefragrance 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Liked subbed and shared bro !!!! Now all ya gotta do is gather up all of your releases that are scattered all over TH-cam on other people's channels and ya good to go ;) haha 👌👊

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Safe Nathan hahaha! Omg I know crazy hey. Thanks Nathan!

  • @kcidermanstuff3385
    @kcidermanstuff3385 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whoop whoop ✊

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kciderman Stuff pow!! 👊🏻💥💥

  • @DarraghRedmond
    @DarraghRedmond 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    More ..... more ...... would love you to break down all the sounds and techniques.. ❤️🦞

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Darragh Redmond great idea. I’m gonna keep them coming mate!

  • @wardup74
    @wardup74 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man hearing this track still gives me that rush it gave me when I heard it for the first time. Thanks dude for opening my ears to music that changed my life..might get in the loft, dust off the vinyl and give the kids a music lesson.. how about urban shakedown for one of your vids mate.

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      wardup74 wow thankyou! That means a lot to hear 🙌🏻🙌🏻

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      And great choice on urban shakedown 👊🏻

  • @B23-c2v
    @B23-c2v 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro 😍

  • @miowpro
    @miowpro 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this was my first moving shadow and got played to death haha

  • @BobbyDeniroX
    @BobbyDeniroX 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The sound of Luton

  • @RUNDNB85
    @RUNDNB85 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    count me in, subbed

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      unt biggups! 👊🏻

  • @AirArtStudiosOfficial
    @AirArtStudiosOfficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best tunes of the true rave era, shame seal was a prick😂😂😂

  • @sub40hz
    @sub40hz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do treacle!!. 😝
    Now, where’s the GIF’s??? 🤔

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      sub40hz haha!!! It’s GIF free zone bro

    • @sub40hz
      @sub40hz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Booooo DAT!!!. 😝
      I guess it just say that I better be more vocal.
      Glad you have this channel up and here’s to many more golden nuggets from the house of Blame.
      Although, competitions are about to get more competitive now..... That Skoda is mine!!!. 🤪

    • @traytronic
      @traytronic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Matt hi Blame 😊

  • @chefgordo25
    @chefgordo25 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about some drum trip

  • @danaminyip
    @danaminyip 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don

    • @Blame720
      @Blame720  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Biggups mate!

  • @darrenmcintosh8471
    @darrenmcintosh8471 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    d&b breaks dont sound
    the same anymore going through the digital domain there is alot to be said for a break being fed through a digital to analogue converter
    on akai or emu sampler it imparts a quality in to the sound you cant get in the box this is why artist such as blame said one time d&b has lost its magic
    so much of the sound quality has been lost and degraded since going to the digital domain

  • @jonathanbailey5896
    @jonathanbailey5896 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry 12"