Don't feel bad for opponent 3. He was looking for a reason to be mad, looking to deflect his reason for losing. Especially don't feel bad if he sent a lot more than what you read out to the chat. I know how nasty people can be at around this rating level when they're losing. It's part of why they stay there at that rating as their anger stunts their ability to learn.
It's still annoying to have someone way above your level beat you when you were looking for an evenly matched game of chess. I don't think he deserves an unfair match-up.
All points won by Nelson’s account are refunded to the opponent, there’s no reason to be upset. The only way the opponent would know he’s playing against a NM is if he also reads the bio and sees the conditions.
@@danielyuan9862Yep. Ultimately though, this is open play and there are no protections for true equal rated games. It's best just to accept the reality that a good chunk of c.c games aren't going to be peer-level play (assuming he had inputted a tight ratings range). Besides the cheaters (which I constantly get points back on a regular basis from) and un-/authorized speed-runs, there are a lot of high rated players who make use of multi-accounts. As they go about (re)establishing those additional accounts to their true level, they too cause distortions. So it's a mess. If someone truly wants a fair game, I'm afraid they have to look elsewhere. Say, a local club.
@@leokraushaar1115Yes. The only argument is it effects stats in various ways since the game remains in history. With enough completed games, that eventually becomes immaterial though. Nowadays, there are quite a few people doing speed runs...both authorized and unauthorized.
@@danielyuan9862 If I found out I got stomped by a titled player I'd be delighted. I seriously don't understand what the problem is. People care too much about the W and not enough about the learning, or the thrill of just playing the game.
I hope a couple of angry opponents doesn't put you off. This has been the most fascinating series and it's super interesting seeing how your opponents play differently as their ratings improve. As a 1200 it's really eye-opening (with the help of your analysis) to see the blunders in plain sight when they are not exactly obvious to me in a live game.
I appreciate that you didnt badmouth the guy who thought you were cheating. I don't think he acted great, but it's understandable that someone in his shoes would be frustrated. Side note but I also love that you keep these videos educational and don't just flex how good you are. Thanks for the videos!
I can understand frustration playing a good player maybe, but it's VERY unnecessary to spam "zzz" while opponents take time. Or report for cheating the moment they don't fall for your traps. Or talk trash consistently after. Or deliberately let the clock run to 0 to waste the opponent's time. Even against a speed run account, that player should get in trouble for running the clock to 0.
I find complaining about slow moves to be in very bad taste. It's a timed game! If they want to play faster, choose a shorter time control. Very childish.
@@michaelb2999I agree. I've only gotten annoyed with someone for "stalling" one time, and it was when they made me sit for 6 minutes until they timed out instead of just resigning. But even then I wasn't gonna type at them
Watching the GothamChess Vienna course: If the opponent plays this then their queen is trapped unless they know these insane Stockfish moves, I guarantee you nobody will ever use this against you Nelson playing the variation for the first time: Faces an opponent who does that exact line lol
Nice you kept your composure and maintained professionalism. Your example of proper sportsmanship does a lot to educate us viewers and chess participants. Thanks for sharing.
@@sevaspirin843 well I play it at 1100 and it seems to work pretty well. You often get your piece back and if not you just smother your opponent. It's not just a one trick gambit. And in the Vienna your opponent can stop your attack, unlike in Halloween (I think, my Vienna knowledge only extends about 5 moves)
Cheating scumbag Nelson! lol! Poor guy. I understand why he would think that, but he was already looking at your profile, all he had to do was read the description.
The second question is very valid. It seems to matter where you are playing geographically, because the local server might have larger problem with cheaters. GingerGM faced couple of very obvious stockfishes in his speedrun.
I just missed this. Was napping. Better late than never though. Excellent Rating Climb Speedrun. Very helpful hearing you say what you're thinking on each move. I never studied before. Everything I learned was from my own limited over the board playing back in the 1970s and '80s. I think that watching and listening to you and other chess masters on TH-cam is going to be necessary for me to realize any significant improvement. Yours and Naroditsky's narrations have been the most helpful for me so far. Probably should get some books also. What about Modern Chess Openings? Do you (or anyone) recommend that book? Thanks and thumbs up.
In game 3 I think going queen g6 BEFORE bishop g5 would make bishop g5 checkmate. His only way out after queen g6 is sacrificing his own queen to stop bishop g5.
Yes, but if you talk with the rook you only win a pawn. But if you take with the knight, which is what he did, you immediately fork the king and queen. If the king moves, you take the queen, so they take the knight with the rook, and then you re-capture with the rook and you are up an exchange. If you take with the rook, all you win is a pawn😀. (Because he doesn’t have to take back)
(@18:08) - 1 Ne5!, seemingly tossing the queen to the wolves, but 1 … Bxd1??, 2 Bxf7# wins. 1 … Be6 is better, but 2 Bxe6 fxe6, 3 O-O and white is eyeing black’s king still in the center, plus the weak doubled pawn on e6.
At min 13 you take pawn with knight and he take with rook but you could’ve take with the rook then he take then you take the rook with the knight and fork queen and the king btw
@@calvinkron4598 the copycat variation is actually playable for black if you plays perfectly. It’s just too dangerous to attempt it. It’s the same thing as fried liver. Defendable with perfect play and comes out a little bit better or die.
@@user-ti4di1uh2d yeah i was looking at it with the computer and it actually looked ok for black but the eval was like +1.5. definitely easy for black to mess up, i play this with white as a 1400
If you lose against a speed run account… do you lose rating? I personally think it’s kind of messed up if they do… you are getting beat down by a chess professional, I mean… come on lol…
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Don't feel bad for opponent 3. He was looking for a reason to be mad, looking to deflect his reason for losing. Especially don't feel bad if he sent a lot more than what you read out to the chat. I know how nasty people can be at around this rating level when they're losing. It's part of why they stay there at that rating as their anger stunts their ability to learn.
It's still annoying to have someone way above your level beat you when you were looking for an evenly matched game of chess. I don't think he deserves an unfair match-up.
All points won by Nelson’s account are refunded to the opponent, there’s no reason to be upset. The only way the opponent would know he’s playing against a NM is if he also reads the bio and sees the conditions.
@@danielyuan9862Yep. Ultimately though, this is open play and there are no protections for true equal rated games. It's best just to accept the reality that a good chunk of c.c games aren't going to be peer-level play (assuming he had inputted a tight ratings range). Besides the cheaters (which I constantly get points back on a regular basis from) and un-/authorized speed-runs, there are a lot of high rated players who make use of multi-accounts. As they go about (re)establishing those additional accounts to their true level, they too cause distortions. So it's a mess. If someone truly wants a fair game, I'm afraid they have to look elsewhere. Say, a local club.
@@leokraushaar1115Yes. The only argument is it effects stats in various ways since the game remains in history. With enough completed games, that eventually becomes immaterial though. Nowadays, there are quite a few people doing speed runs...both authorized and unauthorized.
@@danielyuan9862 If I found out I got stomped by a titled player I'd be delighted. I seriously don't understand what the problem is. People care too much about the W and not enough about the learning, or the thrill of just playing the game.
I hope a couple of angry opponents doesn't put you off. This has been the most fascinating series and it's super interesting seeing how your opponents play differently as their ratings improve. As a 1200 it's really eye-opening (with the help of your analysis) to see the blunders in plain sight when they are not exactly obvious to me in a live game.
I appreciate that you didnt badmouth the guy who thought you were cheating. I don't think he acted great, but it's understandable that someone in his shoes would be frustrated.
Side note but I also love that you keep these videos educational and don't just flex how good you are.
Thanks for the videos!
point is he is not playing perfect especially 1 computer line
I can understand frustration playing a good player maybe, but it's VERY unnecessary to spam "zzz" while opponents take time. Or report for cheating the moment they don't fall for your traps. Or talk trash consistently after. Or deliberately let the clock run to 0 to waste the opponent's time.
Even against a speed run account, that player should get in trouble for running the clock to 0.
if you think about it its a 1300 playing a secret nm so its fair to think hes cheating
I find complaining about slow moves to be in very bad taste. It's a timed game! If they want to play faster, choose a shorter time control. Very childish.
@@michaelb2999I agree. I've only gotten annoyed with someone for "stalling" one time, and it was when they made me sit for 6 minutes until they timed out instead of just resigning. But even then I wasn't gonna type at them
You taught us something more than chess in that last game. Thank you Nelson,🙏
Loving this series, and it's starting to get real interesting as you get close to my rating level. Thanks for these videos Nelson.
Watching the GothamChess Vienna course: If the opponent plays this then their queen is trapped unless they know these insane Stockfish moves, I guarantee you nobody will ever use this against you
Nelson playing the variation for the first time: Faces an opponent who does that exact line lol
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Nice you kept your composure and maintained professionalism. Your example of proper sportsmanship does a lot to educate us viewers and chess participants. Thanks for sharing.
With regard to the third game, I'm honestly surprised this is the first time we've seen the chess theatrics (or is it?). It's definitely a thing.
It's not. Several players have quit or resigned or got disconnected against Peter-Patzer
Would like to see the Halloween gambit in another episode, it's a really powerful opening and makes for some interesting positions
I agree
you can get the same position from the Vienna gambit, just without losing a knight. Halloween gambit is very unsound, especially at 1300
@@sevaspirin843 well I play it at 1100 and it seems to work pretty well. You often get your piece back and if not you just smother your opponent. It's not just a one trick gambit. And in the Vienna your opponent can stop your attack, unlike in Halloween (I think, my Vienna knowledge only extends about 5 moves)
13:08 rook f3 then rook takes rook and then knight f3 royal fork 😮
He can take with The queen instead of the rook
Opponent rook doesn't have to take. That would be +1 instead of +3 from taking with knight forcing opponent to give up the rook.
What happened to stay sharp, play smart? Are we not supposed to do that anymore?
Cheating scumbag Nelson! lol! Poor guy. I understand why he would think that, but he was already looking at your profile, all he had to do was read the description.
Love the videos, finally getting into my level of rating, so nice seeing how you play things vs how I would’ve. I learn so much from you thank you!
There was a fork at 13:13 that was missed. Take the pawn with the rook and recapture with knight forking the king and Queen
Couple questions:
Wouldn't going even as little as 50-0 make your ELO over 2000? And how have you played 134 games without running into a cheater?
The second question is very valid. It seems to matter where you are playing geographically, because the local server might have larger problem with cheaters. GingerGM faced couple of very obvious stockfishes in his speedrun.
Always looking for these videos each day. I'm honestly surprised that the opponent's didn't try to report you sooner lol😂😂
Really liking this series, would love to see some English/Sicilian games
I just missed this. Was napping. Better late than never though. Excellent Rating Climb Speedrun. Very helpful hearing you say what you're thinking on each move. I never studied before. Everything I learned was from my own limited over the board playing back in the 1970s and '80s. I think that watching and listening to you and other chess masters on TH-cam is going to be necessary for me to realize any significant improvement. Yours and Naroditsky's narrations have been the most helpful for me so far. Probably should get some books also. What about Modern Chess Openings? Do you (or anyone) recommend that book? Thanks and thumbs up.
Thanks I missed you Nelson
In game 3 I think going queen g6 BEFORE bishop g5 would make bishop g5 checkmate. His only way out after queen g6 is sacrificing his own queen to stop bishop g5.
@13:10 Why not take with the rook? Then he can't take back, if he does, you fork the king and the queen. No?
Yes, but if you talk with the rook you only win a pawn. But if you take with the knight, which is what he did, you immediately fork the king and queen. If the king moves, you take the queen, so they take the knight with the rook, and then you re-capture with the rook and you are up an exchange. If you take with the rook, all you win is a pawn😀. (Because he doesn’t have to take back)
sad to miss the live but happy to see you play
I tuned in about 20 minutes late so I was wondering if you had perhaps been live streaming all of these or if this was the first.
27:43 the opponent could have played pawn to f6 and if you go to g6 he could bring rook and you not then queens would be traded
(@18:08) - 1 Ne5!, seemingly tossing the queen to the wolves, but 1 … Bxd1??, 2 Bxf7# wins. 1 … Be6 is better, but 2 Bxe6 fxe6, 3 O-O and white is eyeing black’s king still in the center, plus the weak doubled pawn on e6.
vienna is a fun opening for sure sir
thats so wonderful thankyou
thanks very much. really explains how to think
1st game, @ 13 min, if you take w the rook wouldnt you have a fork? someone tell me what im missing
At min 13 you take pawn with knight and he take with rook but you could’ve take with the rook then he take then you take the rook with the knight and fork queen and the king btw
Love the content Nelson. Could you play the London for a game? Thank you
Thank you for these videos
That’s a very rare move. I’ve played the Vienna from 1000 to 1600 for at least a hundred game in copycat variation and no one ever play h5.
it is best before Qd4 but the position is bad either way
@@calvinkron4598 the copycat variation is actually playable for black if you plays perfectly. It’s just too dangerous to attempt it. It’s the same thing as fried liver. Defendable with perfect play and comes out a little bit better or die.
@@user-ti4di1uh2d yeah i was looking at it with the computer and it actually looked ok for black but the eval was like +1.5. definitely easy for black to mess up, i play this with white as a 1400
In the caro kann trap game what happens with black queen to c7 or c8
Can u play an English opening?
Can you play the Hillbilly next time vs the Caro-Kann?
Watching that clock is stressing me out!
Nice
Did the account actually get banned?
People are freaking greedy and mean on here!
I’m sorry this happened to you Nelson, i hope you actually didn’t get banned.
@@blitzy3244 lmao
Lol this Israeli opponent is smoking 🤣
If you lose against a speed run account… do you lose rating? I personally think it’s kind of messed up if they do… you are getting beat down by a chess professional, I mean… come on lol…
No, you get your rating points back.
Very cool, I didn’t know that. I heard Nelson mention it later in the video. But thank you for the reply, great video series.
Hello best teacher,Please play Stratford gambit
30:00 bishop f7 is MATE in 3 position, that you have missed😊
Thought so too but after bf7+, they can move their king -> f8 to survive atleast a bit longer
@@yambda how about bishop takes h5??
I don't see the mate after Kd8. Am I going crazy?
@@danielyuan9862 look at it carefully bro, its mate in 3
@@danielyuan9862 did u find it?
Can you play the Sicilian, advanced dragon variation, please?
Just surpassed 1400, let these fools pawn hunt and sneak up from behind.
Can't beleive you were ban 😞
Smooth
10:12 “Queen would just block.”? Knight would just take. Botez Gambit avoided!
haha I was referring to check after the knight took on e5 =P
That makes a lot more sense!
Imagine getting reported for winning your last 20 games when they're all streamed. :D
Cool bid
36:59 theres a brilliant he didnt show
It's almost certainly the rook sacrifice on f6.
Noticeable that the stats have been removed. I wonder if that is due to game 3? Not sure why you would have stats anyway….a bit in your face.
Livestream vs edited video
נסו להילחם על הדעות שלכם ועל הדרך שלכם בשיחות קבוצתיות, במסיבות, בלימודים, בהיותכם מדריכים ומתמודדים מדי יום עם קשיים חדשים. האושר הפרטי שלך לא צריך להדאיג אותך. ללא ספק תמצא את זה אפילו בלי לחפש. כרגע נראה לך הכי חשוב איזו בחורה תגיד לך 'כן', אבל זו בכלל לא הבעיה. ונניח שהיא כבר הסכימה והגיבה לך - הלא זה כשהמאבק על האהבה רק מתחיל". "אני לא מבין", מודה רפי.
Of course he's from Israel lmao
BAhahahahahaha
Cry baby is getting schooled and calls for Blockage
31:05 what you're doing is cheating. Obviously.
Hello
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