Tesla FSD Update 13.2.6 Impressive First Drive!
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My most wanted feature: Pot hole avoidance update
Give Tesla a break, pothole avoidance is super hard.
Even though FSD has 5 years of development, AI, neural nets, and a billion dollar data center. But the car still drives right into potholes .
Yes!! My Tesla Y ran into a pothole in NC and wrecked the rim. Had to pay $400 to repair. Crazy
@ $400 is cheap, some people have to replace the tire and rim. That costs much more .
@@Americanflagg The crazy part is, FSD will swerve to avoid news papers and squirrels but can't seem to be bothered about a giant hole in the ground.
@Thoth0Amon i have a very strong feeling. It might have to do with the lack of contrast when it comes to potholes and depth perception for which it will need better cameras pointed more downwards as well as multiple cameras close to each other, facing the same direction to create better depth perception.
It also needs a self wiping mechanism so that inclement weather doesn't blind it if they're going to continue to use vision only
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Great video. FSD is advancing so quickly. It is very promising. Thanks for continuing your make these great videos, and showing the Great, the good, and the bad.
You'll be on V14 before I get off V12.5.4.2.
i don't doubt this 😂❤
The US will have robotaxi before Europe has city street beta 😅
No FR! I feel the same way😂😂😂😂I’m laughing but crying at the same time
I don't get Tesla. Like how are you still on that.
@@paulrybarczyk5013 I don’t know you or anything, but if you were my friend, I would suggest that you contact Carvana online (although I sold my cars on craigslist) and see what they would give you for your car and get a hardware 4 car, if it’s in your budget. The sooner you do that, the better off you will be and the less frustrated you will be in six months.
10:45 you should stop cleaning the cameras, unless the car tells you to do so, and count the times you have to clean the cameras and forceful disengagements because the car can't see in the stats. :)
no, be responsible, clean the cameras, and stay safe?
chill mode for ice and snow
Ahhh I see what you did there lol
Fun and true at the same time 😂
You couldn't pay me to support Elon Musk. There are much better EV's being build by other manufactures today.
When I’m in the rain or snow I leave it on chill.
@youtubesucks8024 When I'm on snowy and iced roads, FSD gives up and relinquishes control 😅
Thanks so much Chris. I've been on v13.2.2.1 for the last month and my experience matches up with your's nicely. Not perfect, but still amazing.
You don’t have any new update after the December holiday right?
"We've been getting so many updates"
Cries in HW3
They haven't been sending these updates to any model y's other than these youtubers so im still stuck with 13.2.2
*cries in Europe 😢
:S hey at least the retrofit is confirmed!
@ I wonder that that includes camera upgrades too
@@DirtyTesla Not really... I bet Tesla doesn't upgrade a single HW3 vehicle in all of 2025. More likely they roll out their own fleet of robotaxis, and then years later when they finally release some unsupervised version for customer vehicles, they will then begrudgingly update any HW3 vehicles they haven't stripped of FSD (likely with a HW5 variant).
thank you for testing in the wet snow
Thanks for all the work you do
I have to say that the last few drives on 13.2.6 have been amazing. The only problem I have with FSD in my Cybertruck has been the cameras getting dirty incredibly quickly 😢
I drive a 305 mile trip from NJ to by Canadian border. On the Thruway it’s really good. Passes and gets out of the way as needed. Navigates all the roads by Lake Placid and beyond no problem. Unlit and really twisty in parts. Biggest problem is missing speed data so it goes 35 in a 55. If you tweak the offset to go 55 when you come upon a 35 it keeps going at 55. Signage needs to be changed also. Going 55 come upon 35 and at end of 35 it says end 35 but does not say what the new limit is. Speed data in the maps is much better in more traveled areas. That said I can go whole distance with no safety intervention. For me it’s life changing
Is that where the giant alligator lives?😊
Thank you for acknowledging getting there before the truck on the three way stop. FSD does good and defaults to safety, so maybe, it recognizes him getting there first or at the same time. I don't know how many times people are so confused at a four way stop. You should know before you even get there who is supposed to go next. It always ends up being a mystery for so many people. FSD does so much better than the normal driver. LOL
"FSD does so much better than the normal driver"
Until it kills you.
Omg! First time ever, I know exactly where that is! I grew up in Byron!
I use FSD every day, and there are a few issues that need to be fixed before it can operate unsupervised:
Dips, holes, and potholes avoidance-Tesla tends to run right through them.
Fog and large rain puddles-FSD turns off during these conditions.
Entering and exiting highways-Tesla doesn't allow enough time to merge and relies on other drivers to let it in. Especially in California, if you signal, many drivers speed up and don't let you in, particularly during rush hour. Tesla should be able to navigate toward the correct lane at least 1 mile in advance (rather than 0.5 miles or less), as this often causes us to miss exits.
Long ways to go.
Thanks for sharing!
Those are almost trivial things. Definitely not long way to go.
You need signs on your car that say “ autonomous vehicles don’t give a f*ck!” It might change there attitudes towards playing checked with a computer😂😂😂😂😂
@@andrasbiro3007Trust me (us), there are other safety critical issues that are known by me (us) and, I (we) assume, Tesla engineers. I’m fairly confident that V14 should be ready for nationwide trials of unsupervised FSD this year.
Also unmarked smaller speed bumps. Hard to see but make the car fly.
Chains. Parking lots closed off by chains it'll just back into
The last 4-way stop was handled perfectly. When two cars stop at the same time, the driver on the right has the right-of-way.
Your video convinces me more that fsd should detect slippery roads adjust road profile accordingly.
It definitely needs some work before it can be unsupervised. Mine seems to be doing worse with the newer updates. Also, here in Arizona the sun glare constantly affects it. I can rarely use the summons feature in the daytime because it always stops due to sun glare.
I often have mostly to complete snow-covered roads where I live. FSD is pretty much unusable in those conditions. Though it makes a good attempt to guide down the road, it will not follow the ruts that the previous cars have made, thus thrusting you into berms of slush that makes it unsafe. It sometimes steers off to the right edge of the road too close that will suck you into the borrow pit if you don't disengage. I hope Tesla figures out snow conditions better soon.
Its a neural net m8. Give it time and more compute in snow and it will mimic all human behaviours that result in a safe drive. Its exactly the outcome that is stimulated trough reenforced learning. It probably just need more snow miles.
I’m surprised that you didn’t get any “FSD degraded, poor weather detected” messages with the rain in this video. My HW3 Model Y gives me that message if the sky is cloudy. Do you think that’s a HW3 vs AI4 difference? Great videos as always!
Fsd with the squirrel dodge i love it!!!
That ice disengagement in the beginning, is prolly the very definition of a safety critical disengagement :)
I'm sure that lack of being able to estimate when the human has to take over due to difficult conditions is preventing them from getting L3 or higher certification right now...
@@cyberwizzard L3 certification? FSD 13 still cannot handle speed bumps and potholes conistently. FSD 13 will park in Handicap parking spots. Not good.
FSD 13 still cannot understand important road signs such as Do Not Enter, and Road Closed. FSD 13 is a Level 2 assistant, and nothing more.
@@cyberwizzardyou mean besides running through red lights occasionally?
Actually probably doesn't count since the car was not in immediate danger. It could have lead to safety critical disengagement.
3:10 FSD swerves for squirrel
8:35 Correctly ignores map and avoids a do not enter
Chris what’s your take on the b-pillar camera placement that requires the car to creep for visibility. Chuck has been critical of that
Have you tried something like Rain-X? Try it on one camera and compare it.
I always use it on my windshields and it keeps it so much cleaner and easier to see out of since I reapply it every so often
I have, it doesn't really help
A note about my experience using Lyft. No doubt some drivers have ways to extend the fare. Once when a driver went to the wrong place (after having a pin drop). Lyft fixed that extra cost after I complained. Another driver made himself hard to find at the beginning so he could charge for that extra time. Otherwise the trips have been reasonable.
That area looks so nice and peaceful. I kind of want to live there.
Lots to like but when I took 13.2.6 out for a drive, it still does not slow for school zones, still cannot read signs, still fails my two test intersections, one by trying to go straight from a left turn only lane and the other by trying to complete a left turn by going into a short left turn only lane, then trying to continue straight rather than make the left turn. Very safe, very smooth, good with pedestrians and bicycle riders, good a 4 way stops but fails when the map data conflicts with reality.
_but fails when the map data conflicts with reality_
Human drivers use their eyes and brains, then make the correct decisions. 'Map data' is not needed !
@@DerekDavis213 I agree, this is a critical problem that must be solved. The intersections and school zones that FSD cannot navigate correctly are not vanishingly rare. FSD has failed to recognize five school zones in three cities, tried to make improper left turns in two cities, and moved into left turn only lanes before attempting to go straight or at three intersections in two cities. I cannot understabd why or how the more widely viewed reviewers do not encounter such failures or if they do fail to comment critically. What I see tends to the boy are we making progress,sort of review. Yes progress is being made, after literally years. But if signs cannot be understood. If flashing police and fire lights are ignored, then map data no matter how up to date won't be enough. It drives well most of the time, the three most recent versions do very well on California freeways. But that does not offset a left turn ends in the wrong side of the center line.
The biggest issue is that, these things are not rare. Looks like it can handle common patterns really well. But cannot learn uncommon patterns at all. Good human drivers often are capable of learning from even a single uncommon scenario they encountered a few years ago.
@@PrunthabanKanthakumar _Good human drivers often are capable of learning from even a single uncommon scenario they encountered a few years ago._
Very true. Some people think that because FSD has 8 cameras, fast onboard computer, AI, neural nets, and a billion dollar datacenter, that FSD can analyze and reason like a human mind. That is totally NOT true. FSD is a simple minded Level 2 assistant, and nothing more.
“It’s not HD maps” true.. it’s not.. it’s also not the old maps. As seen before the robotaxi event they enable additional data collection for the geofenced zone and then flood the zone with cars to map it out VERY well. Not a complaint, I’m all for it, but a clarification. It isn’t HD maps, but it’s a lot more than the current google maps they’ve used.
7:31 - i seriously don't understand this debate anymore?! lol :p
why even bother having speed limits if you're going to be 5+ over? For autonomy- just stick to the limit - this will reduce any potential claims and more importantly - potentially save lives - i presumed that was the reason for limits (especially in built up urban areas!)
I am still on 13.2.2 for some reason… is there a way to get the update if it doesn’t show one available??
My Tesla moved too far to the right and drove off of a paved road the other day. Good times. My Tesla goes to a destination and wants to park on the left.....on a 2 way stree. 😂 It avoided a huge puddle the other day though.
Seems so odd they haven’t implemented some sort of self-cleaning mechanism to the cameras.
Just drove 900 miles to florida with zero interventions. Very impressed and its incredible for road trips. No rain or snow though so idk how they will deal with camera occlusions.
_Just drove 900 miles to florida with zero interventions_
Yup. freeway driving is super easy. But FSD cannot drive in busy big cities without interventions.
FSD v13 cuts people off. It's done it twice now and I once got the one finger salute because of it.
Is this only in Texas and California?
I see you toggle between hurry to standard. Using that method, is that the default behavior?
If they’re planning on making it unsupervised in California…HAHAHAHAHA good luck! I tried FSD in the heart of LA and it lost GPS going down the 5, tried getting back to the universal studios and it was so utterly clueless as to where it was it was just making random turns based off where it thought it was vs where it actually was. My phone had better GPS accuracy in the car.
hw3?
@ nope, HW4
I notice it does that to me when I disable online routing. Otherwise my daily 1 hr commute through the 5 and 101 has been intervention free with 13.2
speed control seems so much better than me on 12.6.1.. had to reverse to enhanced autopilot to use it.. otherwise i had to tap accelerator every 5 seconds all the drives! thanks for videos!!
I had the same experience, such a brutal thing when you get stuck on an update that's worse than the last. Luckily that's a rare occurrence.
I love your videos and i love Teslas Please don't quit just because fsd is getting better
Impressive FSD!
That thing almost killed me on the first day since installing. Darn thing decided to make a lane where none existed. At full speed. The day after, the car decided to proceed through a red light after stopping for the same red, seemingly becoming impatient. What actually happened was that the filter light changed to green, and I was going straight but the car didn’t seem to care. Dang!
Tesla absolutely needs to read and understand all the road signs! Just database all the signs, each state literally has a book! When you move to another state and get a new drivers license, they make you read their book, So should Tesla as a driver. It’s a trivial task.
It's definitely not trivial since actually understanding each sign in its unique context requires a level of generalization that FSD doesn't seem to have.
We have the Highway Code in the Uk. Although we haven’t got FSD yet, as incremental software updates come through, you can tell that is learning our rules, including signs. Little by little though.
@@TheSpartan3669
No, it should be trivial. In the worst case it can be a separate tiny network. Image recognition was the first thing deep learning solved in 2012. With networks like a billion times smaller than FSD.
@@TheSpartan3669 “No turn on red” means exactly that. So is “road closed”, “detour”, speed limits that apply to Trucks only… etc.etc. Yes, the task of feeding proper videos and training FSD for all specific signs is brutally tedious, incredibly boring but it is absolutely trivial and needs to be done.
Thinking about getting a Model 3. I was going to get a BMW 540, but the model 3 seems to be the better decision financially. A 2 year old long range dual motor with 18k miles goes for like $27k from Tesla vs $38k for the BMW. The Tesla payment should come out to like $320. Plus no gas and very little maintenance. I want a nice car but I also want to be able to continue saving a lot of, so it seems like a good contender. Just the savings on maintenance is a grand a year or more.
Yep, getting a used Tesla is an insane deal
@ it would be my first EV and I honestly don’t know how I feel about that yet. I’m a gear head and I do love gas engines, but dollars and cents are dollars and cents.
I've often wondered if it was smart enough to react to icy conditions. 3:54 would suggest no, it isn't. Which is fine as long as the road is dry.
I had 13.2.2 try to tun a red light on my because the turn arrow was green and it was almost a very dangerous situation, had I not been there to take over. These occurrences are very rare and I was not expecting it because it’s so rare but they still happen. Tesla needs to be careful with an unsupervised release because bad press could go very wrong for them. 1:24
V13 getting into a right turn lane up to the light when we need to go straight. Line of cars in the straight lane. What is FSD going to do?
Did it show the little stop signs and traffic lights on the navigation map before, too? So it uses the map data to know what's coming next?
It uses the full set of actual data to know what's coming next.
It displays some of this data to let the driver know what it's seeing.
Don’t count on it doing that post office entrance correctly the next time. I’ve had 13.2.2 miss an exit it had done perfectly several times.
V13 is amazing. One problem is HOV lanes. Mine tries to use them even when it's just me in the car
Some jurisdictions include any alternative fuel vehicle for HOV, regardless of number of occupants.
There is an HOV setting you can adjust via voice. It respects it most of the time
Some states give permission for EV regardless of occupancy
What I have noticed about the latest versions of FSD with Hardware 4 is that the local driving is now superior to highway driving. On the highway I have constant speed decay, it will not hold 85 mph, it will drop to 78 mph over a few minutes with no traffic in site. In addition, lane drift in the far left hov lane with a double broken white line is constant making it virtually unusable. Highway Autopilot in prior versions was nearly flawless and now it is often unusable. What is going on with the AI at Tesla?
Keeps getting better
FSD is slowly improving, in baby steps. But Level 5 Full Autonomy might never be achievable with current hardware, software, and programming team .
12:33 what's going on with the battery percentage and mode display?
It’s easy to keep track of the updates when you aren’t in early access haha
Those roads without ANY lane markings - it's amazing a computer can follow them.
Twenty years ago it'd be unfathomable!
FSD is improving fast, but still can think of many scenarios that humans would handle much better than FSD.
Chris, you keep referring back to mistakes recorded in previous videos. Would be great if you could insert clips from those previous videos so we can see what you're talking about.....Just an idea.
How does fsd handle washboard on dirt roads? Does it slow down?
The rule on stops is not by order you get there. You were okay to go and the Tesla knew because the first person there goes and then it goes clockwise (first was 3, you were 6) had you pulled up in opposite spots with the “third person to pull up” if you are all there together, your spot would have been next. A personal peppiv of mine because nobody knows it!!! It’s the same everywhere. Look it up.
Chris, your Cyber Truck and your Model Y both have HW4. So how (and why) does the FSD function differently on the two models? I have never driven a CT, so I have no idea.
I want to see u samon the car from s overhead garage to see if it can find its way to the exit
Updates happening so quick, Grok 3 is online. 🎉
Your observations and opinions and your vehicles behavior mirror my Model S exactly.I'm on V13.2.6 and I was able to wash my windscreen at speed on an auto route with out getting the red hands also the high beams might be coming on a little faster although they still need to turn on faster still.I think we moved one step forward with this version
I have a question, how do you get the camera button at the top of the screen for when FSD makes mistakes. I can only send a audio message.
LMAO:
"we're gonna go for it because tesla said this thing is safe"
"Ah no I gotta take over. This thing is sliding"
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Has anyone tested Full Self-Driving with guard gates? I’m curious how it handles them, especially when approaching slowly or needing to navigate tight spaces. Does it automatically stop, wait for clearance, or require manual intervention?
do they have mobile phone service out there?
How is that in the first trip your Tesla barely used 1% of battery in a 5 mile trip and my in the same trip consumed 3% of battery using FSD too? What am I missing here?
And, how do you screen record the the Tesla screen?
I understand that there‘s ice, but I usually drive 80-90 km/h in 10-20cm snow, so I find that driving 25mph on slight ice on a road that‘s perfectly straight feels really slow/too slow for me. Also the speed limit being 25mph in summer would drive me crazy…
I have two mapping errors within 1.2 miles of my house that drive FSD into dead ends. One is the road doesn’t go through, the other is FSD on a major route turns right instead of left and into a truck loading area. I’ve been reporting both errors for he last year.
I find the following distance on hwy is very close, even in chill
I used to watch all your videos, but I haven’t been doing that lately so forgive me if you have already addressed this. Are you going to be making more videos with your hardware 3 model Y? I’m on hardware three and I’ve kind of lost interest in HW4 FSD.
Hey sorry, I no longer own a HW3 vehicle. There are plenty of people making HW3 videos still tho, just search it up! I hear the latest version on HW3 is actually pretty good.
Yes agree with non emergency wrongs happens often. Every school zone it speeds. I have to disengage ( daily ). Every intersection that a police officer is directing traffic I have to disengage. I was at a fair and was parking that had parking guides directing traffic, I had to disengage. There are hundreds of these type scenarios! This is why my opinion unsupervised and eventually real FSD is very very far away.
That’s so brilliant , the number of times I have seen humans try and park in a space then give up!
I hope we will see a 13.3.7 version. :D
I've been thinking about upgrading to a AI4 MY but now I'm wondering if AI5 will be out by the end of the year, will all AI4 owners be in the same boat as HW3 people are now?
AI5 is 800w but HW3 and HW4 are 300w. AI5 is probably not coming to consumer cars and is probably just for the cybercab and optimus that will have to run LLMs to interact with people alongside FSD.
Another intervention is it going straight on red after about minute with no traffic coming. I consider that a safety intervention. I have seen this happen several times at night time.
That's a legal intervention.
It's also kinda necessary as lights do get stuck on red. I'm not arguing that is the case after about a minute though, the time is too low.
I just passed 10,000 mikes on my beast. FSD has been awesome. It doesn't stand a chance when the lane lines are completely covered in ice.Which here where I live in alaska is often the case. Might not see the lane lines until spring. Still invested in the company , know it's going to succeed
And how humans drive then? FSD will do the same by definition.
Does tesla detect black ice
how to reduce disengagements and interventions? Never disengage or intervene😂
So impressive!
It ran over a squirrel?!
0 disengagements 🙌
Why will tesla not take advantage of hd maps as they must have been created for Weymo?
I think Waymo made their own hd maps and probably doesn't want to share, or would charge a ton. And they'll only have these hd maps for very small city areas. Tesla wants to work everywhere
Try covering the speedometer and doing a whole drive without it. Does it feel fast, slow or normal then?
I like it
@DirtyTesla have passengers with you on that one.
@Tesla , many Tesla / tech savvy people can put two and two together to push "Start FSD". However, as a UI element - I think the "Start FSD" button should load the "blue" background from left to right until the whole button is blue to simulate the long press and start the Full Self Driving Process - Especially for Unsupervised FSD.
Great review esp from a family perspective. Does the front camera have a fisheye similar to the Cybertruck? I love the front camera on the Cybertruck, but I don’t like the fact that it is a fish eye and things are closer than they appear.
Teslas need washers and heaters for all cameras
They need a lot more but that’d be basic
They have heaters, at least HW4.
As for a washer, Tesla has billions of miles of data, they should know best what's needed.
@@andrasbiro3007, to reach L4 or L5, active clearing on all cameras is mandatory. Anyone who says different doesn't understand how rain and snow work.
I think the next update makes this bucket turn far right all the time.
Really frustrating no updates for my 2019 M3 since November for me. 12.5.4.2 is very bad FSD version. If it would allow me I would roll it back to pre 12.5.4.2 it's that bad. My wife refuses to use this version.
Keep it honest brother. I want FSD to continue to 🚀
It’s 🤯 now. LFG to 👌
Elon said unsupervised in June?! Wow that means we could see it as soon as 2034 in some parking lots in California or Texas. That’s so exciting!
How come I haven’t receive any updates since December?
Speed limits are there to keep people safe. The car has 8 eyes and lightning fast responses. So it really should have a lot higher speed limits than humans, because it’s much better😎
Also if the car makes a few mistakes that’s ok , so long as it makes a lot less than humans
Nothing is ever going to be 100% perfect , but humans are 70% at best so even if fsd was 90% it’s going to save many many lives.
If humans were only “70% at best”, they couldn’t drive across town without getting in an accident, or walk across the street without falling down …
I bet FSD's problem with not slowing on ice is that Tesla's internal simulator doesn't have icy conditions in it, or snowy conditions for that matter. I don't think they'll be adding those this spring, because it's not really relevant for where they'll be launching the robotaxi service. But let's hope they will.
@@celeron55 ice storms are common in Texas so ice protection should absolutely be in the models. I also think the main reason why it doesn't do ice or snow very well is those conditions really require you to "feel" the cars movements, something Tesla does not have the sensors for. They don't have any accelerometer or similar sensors in the car to detect the sliding, the looseness on the steering or the sliding or breaking action on different conditions. Just the other day I let FSD drive through a rain storm and the car started hydroplaning, after drifting out of the far right lane, into the left lane and then crossing the double yellow line I finally took over because it was clear the car had no idea A that it was even hydroplaning and B how to correct out of it and then C, how to avoid water buildup to not get into the situation in the first place.
3:11 bro went on the squirrel but didn’t want us to know 😂😂
We need Hurry, Standard, Chill and a bonus mode... RALLY Mode !! Great for icy snowy conditions... AMAZING fun for roundabouts :)
Still stuck on 13.2.2. How in the world are you guys getting these new updates.
Causes he’s a TH-camr probs
He's in the early release program.
These are vetted drivers considered responsible to test a system that may have unexpected major flaws and to report things that are a problem.
Just got mine today and just a normal Connecticut customer.
There’s a reduce speed ahead sign on my way to work and 13.2.2 every time immediately slows down for a couple of seconds then picks up speed again.
They should wait and upgrade HW3 straight to HW5, HW4 is probably only getting to Level 3 maybe eventually Level 4 but never Level 5 autonomy.
Spring for ICE Tires.
Its frustrating. The updates in Canada have been crazy slow.
Does Tesla reimbuse you for accidents or tickets if you're using FSD?
Not yet, but they better plan on it if they want to claim Unsupervised FSD :)
No, you are responsible to supervise the car.
Grow a pair, man! Take FSD on a few snow-covered hills or snow-covered/icy back roads with curves and report back
I was recently driving behind a couple of really low sports cars over a series of speed bumps, and they had to take the speed bumps diagonally to avoid scraping. Guess what? My car started copying them even though it didn’t need to!!
👀👀
@ I know! I’m kicking myself for not having recorded that 😖